Episode #25 – California Zinfandel: Where is it now?

April 4, 2006

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2003 R&b Cellars Zinfandel

2003 Frogs Leap Zinfandel

2004 Brown Estate Zinfandel

Watch as Gary Vaynerchuk explores the ever changing world of California Zinfandel. Zinfandel has gone through it’s ups and it’s downs and this is a nice update of where it is! Gary tastes the R&B Cellars Zinfandel 2003, Brown Estate Chiles Valley Zinfandel 2003 and the Frogs Leap Zinfandel 2003.

23 Responses

  1. April 4, 2006

    ronguy

    Gary, I was surprised that you would have a wine in your stock that was not very good, as you described the Frogs Leap. Don’t you have buyers who taste the wines before you buy them? I would expect all the wines in your stock to be drinkable, just that some are better than others.

  2. April 4, 2006

    garyv

    Ronguy Frogs Leap is a HUGE winery and name and many people ask for it…we have to carry what is in damand at times.

  3. April 4, 2006

    Greg S

    Really enjoying your show. Just thought I would mention (and maybe others have already?) how inconsistant the lighting is between episodes (sometime almost yellow, others dark, some light). You might want to experiment with using more lighting. Also, the box of books and stuff on the side looks cheesy. Great show, keep them coming. Would love to see a broader sampling of California Zins next time.

  4. April 4, 2006

    scotty

    Gary on your next california zin tasting why not include some of the wineries that have taken that wavy ride you spoke about over the last 10 years such as ravenswood and rosenblum?

  5. April 5, 2006

    Sam Zen

    I like your comment Scotty.

    Gary- this is why you are a revolutionary— thank you for paning some wines carried by your store… every store in the world carries bad wines, bar none! Keep up the natural reactions. Also, If you recommend for us to look around for Zins under the $20 range, how about some recommendations.

  6. April 5, 2006

    Mark P

    Greg S, good observation on the lighting. If I had to guess, the camera isn’t being properly adjusted for white balance. This is what I notice when my videos sometimes appear yellow or dim. Gary, maybe your camera guy can check that setting out. The usual practice is to use a white card or paper and manually adjust this setting on the camera. It might also help show the wine’s color more accurately. one decent reference – http://www.photoxels.com/tutorial_white-balance.html. Keep up the great work Gary.

  7. April 5, 2006

    Stan

    Great episode. I’m looking forward to your next Zin tasting. I hope you’ll highlight those in the $15-$20 range you mentioned. I agree with the lighting comments, but I don’t agree with the “cheesy” comment. These episodes are refreshingly straight-forward and apparently honest (you really appeared to be taken by surprise with the Frog’s Leap). I’d start to worry about your focus on keeping things honest if the production was more professional looking, and less “cheesy.”

  8. April 5, 2006

    Mike Erganian

    We like “cheesy’

  9. April 5, 2006

    wpacker

    Gary,

    Great episode! I appreciate your honesty. If the Frog’s Leap zin is so bad, whay is it a “Staff Selection”? Does that mean it is recommended by the “staff”?

  10. April 5, 2006

    garyv

    Wpacker this is something we will be fixing on the site ASAP! We need to fix the wording we use on wines that we just put reviews on!

  11. August 21, 2006

    Matthew

    Thanks for the reviews Gary. I am a HUGE fan of Zinfandel. I noticed Brown Estate years ago in an article in Wine Spectator. I thought it was intriguing because you don’t hear about that many black-owned vineyards–let alone one that is putting out 90+ rated wines. Keep it coming, your reviews are great!

  12. September 21, 2006

    Brandon M

    There was a great article in Napa Sonoma Magazine a few months back about African American Winemakers / owners. Mac from Vision cellars was in the article. I got to meet him in Bodega Bay a few months back at Gourmet Au Bay. It was a lot of fun seeing someone you had just tasted with end up in an article about African American wine trail blazing!

    Vision is starting to get good scores for their Pinot Noir!

    This episode just reminded me of it!

    BTW..all the Frogs LEap I’ve had lately has SUCKED..it used to be so damn good. :-(
    B

  13. October 2, 2006

    Mike F.

    I tried a few red zinfandels a dozen years back or so, and I wasn’t that in love with them then. I tried them again a few years back after they got “big” and oh what a difference it is. Although I don’t like some of the over the top super jammy 16%+ alcohol zin’s like Rosenblum and some others, I do like where the California style zinfandels have evolved to.

  14. June 6, 2007

    David Canada

    I’m a definite Red Zin novice……I keep buying them in the 20$ CAN area and get underwhelmed…. I need to look at a higher price point I think…..

  15. June 26, 2007

    vibemore

    Another classic episode that made its way into “the” classic episode. “Completely undrinkable” shows up. AWESOME.

  16. July 9, 2007

    yowens

    GV- still working thru the archives and enjoyed the show- hadnt heard of brown before but will seek it out.

  17. August 31, 2007

    WA Ambassador

    I haven’t had a zin in years. It’s good to get reintroduced to it again. I remember when my parents used to drink it all the time.

  18. September 10, 2007

    GrapeStuff

    I find Zin is an easy transition for anyone who has been drinking a lot of OZ Shiraz. Great ep.

  19. February 8, 2008

    The Fanjestic

    Still not changing the wine world after 25 episodes huh? I am a fan of Frogs leap because John Williams is the wine maker (my Dad’s name)

  20. March 6, 2008

    Dale Cruse

    Gary said it was 15+% alcohol, “so you’re getting a lot of wine for your buck.” No, I’d say you’re getting a lot of alcohol for your buck!

  21. July 9, 2008

    Dan Leavy

    word 25 in my 500 word review, one comment at a time…

    “He”

  22. September 8, 2009

    LWP

    Gary – Frog’s Leap is a great wine. So you had an off bottle. It is too bad you could not quantify your initial reaction with a comment about off bottles. Have you tasted since? I haven’t missed a vintage since 2000 and they haven’t missed a beat.

  23. September 13, 2009

    John J.

    Good episode Gary. Nice to see how you rate those wines. Where I may have tried the Frog’s Leap zin due to its name recognition, and because it may have proven itself in the past with other wines in its portfolio, such as their sav blanc. Now I know to try other 2 first, as opposed to wasting my money on the Frog’s Leap, which is pretty much playing off of its name. Really appreciate those honest reactions. Also goes to show that if a winery makes a good wine out of a certain a varietal, that it doesn’t mean all their other wines are good. Whereas, I’d probably go with an esteemed winemaker when picking out a Burgundy, that obviously doesn’t apply here, or alot of other places. Something I have to let my guests know quite bit, and remind myself once in a while.
    Would love to see you do this with a charbono tasting, and see how the different versions stack up. Especially the lesser known wineries turnouts vs. the better known wineries.

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