Comments on: Four South African Wines – Episode #75 http://tv.winelibrary.com/2006/08/21/four-south-african-wines-episode-75/ Wine news, tastings and reviews from the Wine Library Thu, 09 Feb 2012 21:00:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Alexandre Savoie http://tv.winelibrary.com/2006/08/21/four-south-african-wines-episode-75/comment-page-4/#comment-991799 Alexandre Savoie Mon, 07 Mar 2011 19:10:00 +0000 http://tv.winelibrary.com/2006/08/21/four-south-african-wines-episode-75/#comment-991799 Unfortunately I have to pick 2 bottles for the simple reason that I bought them specifically to drink for both my daughters' 21 birthdays, the first is a magnum of Alion 2005, the second a magnum of Delas La Landonne Cote Rotie. Now rating this episode is tough because I am 5 yrs later and your new stuff is a notch above, so I'll give you an 88 which is good but a little under the mythical bar of 90, if I was rating this 5 yrs ago I would've probably given you a 90. Unfortunately I have to pick 2 bottles for the simple reason that I bought them specifically to drink for both my daughters’ 21 birthdays, the first is a magnum of Alion 2005, the second a magnum of Delas La Landonne Cote Rotie.
Now rating this episode is tough because I am 5 yrs later and your new stuff is a notch above, so I’ll give you an 88 which is good but a little under the mythical bar of 90, if I was rating this 5 yrs ago I would’ve probably given you a 90.

]]> By: Anonymous http://tv.winelibrary.com/2006/08/21/four-south-african-wines-episode-75/comment-page-4/#comment-990560 Anonymous Sat, 26 Feb 2011 01:18:00 +0000 http://tv.winelibrary.com/2006/08/21/four-south-african-wines-episode-75/#comment-990560 Most cherished wine is a bottle of 2003 Chateau Le Puy from the Cotes Du Francs. It IS the Wine that truly got me SERIOUS about wine! Most cherished wine is a bottle of 2003 Chateau Le Puy from the Cotes Du Francs. It IS the Wine that truly got me SERIOUS about wine!

]]> By: corkscrew http://tv.winelibrary.com/2006/08/21/four-south-african-wines-episode-75/comment-page-4/#comment-729466 corkscrew Thu, 04 Mar 2010 19:33:44 +0000 http://tv.winelibrary.com/2006/08/21/four-south-african-wines-episode-75/#comment-729466 Gary almost said ..Yay-ner-chuk..it was close..87-89 quick time to try 4 Cabs, I have found South Africian hit or miss, recently had some wines at a wine expo from Greece and was really impressed. off top of my head..a signed mag of 2004 Caldwell Silver which will last some 20+ yrs, will open with my son in college gives me a grandchild and 2007 Linne Calodo Cherry Red RP-96 and some Kosta Browne. <a href="http://www.winelx.com" rel="nofollow">www.winelx.com</a> Gary almost said ..Yay-ner-chuk..it was close..87-89 quick time to try 4 Cabs, I have found South Africian hit or miss, recently had some wines at a wine expo from Greece and was really impressed. off top of my head..a signed mag of 2004 Caldwell Silver which will last some 20+ yrs, will open with my son in college gives me a grandchild and 2007 Linne Calodo Cherry Red RP-96 and some Kosta Browne. http://www.winelx.com

]]> By: John J. http://tv.winelibrary.com/2006/08/21/four-south-african-wines-episode-75/comment-page-4/#comment-685384 John J. Thu, 17 Sep 2009 16:08:57 +0000 http://tv.winelibrary.com/2006/08/21/four-south-african-wines-episode-75/#comment-685384 Great episode Gary, love you're encouragement for people to continue to try new things. 2 things which most people haven't tried that I would love to see you do on here would be: A tasting on different charbono's, and 1 on vin jaune's. Which brings me to your qotd. The most prized wine in my cellar isn't there yet, but will be finally in about 2 or 3 days. It's a Caves Jean Bourdy 2002 vin jaune. I've been reading about these wines for a couple years, and how they are made. How rare they are, how long they take to make and age before release, and how they are only made in the French wine region of Jura. Most people haven't even heard of the Jura region, much less their vin jaune's. Been trying to find a distributor in my state that carries them, and had to look for a long time. No distributor's listed in the beverage journal, had any vin jaune's, and I couldn't find any place that had 1, so I assumed they either weren't coming to the U.S. or at least my state. Then about 6 months ago out of the blue, this guy pop's his head in my restaurant and drops off a little catalog. Turn's out he works for a very small wine distributor, not listed in the beverage journal [quite a few aren't, sure you know this, and i thought i knew who most of those companies were], that focused on wines and wine areas, not being picked up my most other distributors. There was even a whole section on Jura, whereas other distributor's don't even have a single wine from Jura! There were even 2 vin jaune's on there, A Tissot 99 vintage, which was cheaper, and bottled in a 500ml bottle. Then there was the more expensive one, the Caves Jean Bourdy 2002, which was bottled in the traditional Clavelin 620ml bottles. The traditional clavelin bottle was part of the allure for me too, since it's the only wine bottled in such a bottle. I thought those clavelin's weren't exported to the U.S., but maybe it slipped in under the radar, who knows? But, it's whats inside that counts. So I went online to check out reviews and get info on the 2. Check out Jean Bourdy's wines out on any website, garagistewine.com for instance. [i have no affiliation w any websites.] Apparently Jean Bourdy, this unknown winery to me has been making wine in the family for 14 generations since the 1700's. But even better, sommelier's in France consider it among the top 3 wineries in all of France that leads in both red and white wine's. The other 2 are Chateau Haut-Brion, and Domain de la Romanee Conti. They went even further to say it may be the best of the 3. They did say that Jean Bourdy's 1947 Chateau Chalon blanc may be single greatest white wine in the world of the 20th century. Their 1865 had received pretty much the same praise for the 19th century, which is still drinking well apparently. Red wines get similar praise from them, and review after review that I have read, is among the most stellar wine reviews I've ever read. And no it's not cheap, but its probably a tenth of the price as those 1st growth Bordeaux's and grand cru Burgundies. It's just so damn hard to find. I did find out there is 1 liquor store downtown selling the Tissot vin jaune. But after hearing about the esteem of the Bourdy, and that being the only 1 of the 2 sold in the clavelin, I lost interest in that one fast, compared to the Bourdy. Of course that didn't make getting the budget from my boss any easier in ordering it, a whole different story. So anyway, after trying for almost 2 years, and I can find things working in the business that the avg consumer can't, I'll finally have that wine for myself in a few days, and probably be the only person in the state with one on their wine list. Until someone else from my state reads this of course lol. So that's my most prized bottle as of yet. Now I just have to wait many years to drink it, to try to have it at it's peak. Great episode Gary, love you’re encouragement for people to continue to try new things. 2 things which most people haven’t tried that I would love to see you do on here would be: A tasting on different charbono’s, and 1 on vin jaune’s.
Which brings me to your qotd. The most prized wine in my cellar isn’t there yet, but will be finally in about 2 or 3 days. It’s a Caves Jean Bourdy 2002 vin jaune. I’ve been reading about these wines for a couple years, and how they are made. How rare they are, how long they take to make and age before release, and how they are only made in the French wine region of Jura. Most people haven’t even heard of the Jura region, much less their vin jaune’s. Been trying to find a distributor in my state that carries them, and had to look for a long time. No distributor’s listed in the beverage journal, had any vin jaune’s, and I couldn’t find any place that had 1, so I assumed they either weren’t coming to the U.S. or at least my state. Then about 6 months ago out of the blue, this guy pop’s his head in my restaurant and drops off a little catalog. Turn’s out he works for a very small wine distributor, not listed in the beverage journal [quite a few aren't, sure you know this, and i thought i knew who most of those companies were], that focused on wines and wine areas, not being picked up my most other distributors. There was even a whole section on Jura, whereas other distributor’s don’t even have a single wine from Jura! There were even 2 vin jaune’s on there, A Tissot 99 vintage, which was cheaper, and bottled in a 500ml bottle. Then there was the more expensive one, the Caves Jean Bourdy 2002, which was bottled in the traditional Clavelin 620ml bottles. The traditional clavelin bottle was part of the allure for me too, since it’s the only wine bottled in such a bottle. I thought those clavelin’s weren’t exported to the U.S., but maybe it slipped in under the radar, who knows? But, it’s whats inside that counts. So I went online to check out reviews and get info on the 2. Check out Jean Bourdy’s wines out on any website, garagistewine.com for instance. [i have no affiliation w any websites.] Apparently Jean Bourdy, this unknown winery to me has been making wine in the family for 14 generations since the 1700′s. But even better, sommelier’s in France consider it among the top 3 wineries in all of France that leads in both red and white wine’s. The other 2 are Chateau Haut-Brion, and Domain de la Romanee Conti. They went even further to say it may be the best of the 3. They did say that Jean Bourdy’s 1947 Chateau Chalon blanc may be single greatest white wine in the world of the 20th century. Their 1865 had received pretty much the same praise for the 19th century, which is still drinking well apparently. Red wines get similar praise from them, and review after review that I have read, is among the most stellar wine reviews I’ve ever read. And no it’s not cheap, but its probably a tenth of the price as those 1st growth Bordeaux’s and grand cru Burgundies. It’s just so damn hard to find. I did find out there is 1 liquor store downtown selling the Tissot vin jaune. But after hearing about the esteem of the Bourdy, and that being the only 1 of the 2 sold in the clavelin, I lost interest in that one fast, compared to the Bourdy. Of course that didn’t make getting the budget from my boss any easier in ordering it, a whole different story. So anyway, after trying for almost 2 years, and I can find things working in the business that the avg consumer can’t, I’ll finally have that wine for myself in a few days, and probably be the only person in the state with one on their wine list. Until someone else from my state reads this of course lol. So that’s my most prized bottle as of yet. Now I just have to wait many years to drink it, to try to have it at it’s peak.

]]> By: John__J http://tv.winelibrary.com/2006/08/21/four-south-african-wines-episode-75/comment-page-4/#comment-779743 John__J Thu, 17 Sep 2009 16:08:00 +0000 http://tv.winelibrary.com/2006/08/21/four-south-african-wines-episode-75/#comment-779743 Great episode Gary, love you're encouragement for people to continue to try new things. 2 things which most people haven't tried that I would love to see you do on here would be: A tasting on different charbono's, and 1 on vin jaune's. Which brings me to your qotd. The most prized wine in my cellar isn't there yet, but will be finally in about 2 or 3 days. It's a Caves Jean Bourdy 2002 vin jaune. I've been reading about these wines for a couple years, and how they are made. How rare they are, how long they take to make and age before release, and how they are only made in the French wine region of Jura. Most people haven't even heard of the Jura region, much less their vin jaune's. Been trying to find a distributor in my state that carries them, and had to look for a long time. No distributor's listed in the beverage journal, had any vin jaune's, and I couldn't find any place that had 1, so I assumed they either weren't coming to the U.S. or at least my state. Then about 6 months ago out of the blue, this guy pop's his head in my restaurant and drops off a little catalog. Turn's out he works for a very small wine distributor, not listed in the beverage journal [quite a few aren't, sure you know this, and i thought i knew who most of those companies were], that focused on wines and wine areas, not being picked up my most other distributors. There was even a whole section on Jura, whereas other distributor's don't even have a single wine from Jura! There were even 2 vin jaune's on there, A Tissot 99 vintage, which was cheaper, and bottled in a 500ml bottle. Then there was the more expensive one, the Caves Jean Bourdy 2002, which was bottled in the traditional Clavelin 620ml bottles. The traditional clavelin bottle was part of the allure for me too, since it's the only wine bottled in such a bottle. I thought those clavelin's weren't exported to the U.S., but maybe it slipped in under the radar, who knows? But, it's whats inside that counts. So I went online to check out reviews and get info on the 2. Check out Jean Bourdy's wines out on any website, garagistewine.com for instance. [i have no affiliation w any websites.] Apparently Jean Bourdy, this unknown winery to me has been making wine in the family for 14 generations since the 1700's. But even better, sommelier's in France consider it among the top 3 wineries in all of France that leads in both red and white wine's. The other 2 are Chateau Haut-Brion, and Domain de la Romanee Conti. They went even further to say it may be the best of the 3. They did say that Jean Bourdy's 1947 Chateau Chalon blanc may be single greatest white wine in the world of the 20th century. Their 1865 had received pretty much the same praise for the 19th century, which is still drinking well apparently. Red wines get similar praise from them, and review after review that I have read, is among the most stellar wine reviews I've ever read. And no it's not cheap, but its probably a tenth of the price as those 1st growth Bordeaux's and grand cru Burgundies. It's just so damn hard to find. I did find out there is 1 liquor store downtown selling the Tissot vin jaune. But after hearing about the esteem of the Bourdy, and that being the only 1 of the 2 sold in the clavelin, I lost interest in that one fast, compared to the Bourdy. Of course that didn't make getting the budget from my boss any easier in ordering it, a whole different story. So anyway, after trying for almost 2 years, and I can find things working in the business that the avg consumer can't, I'll finally have that wine for myself in a few days, and probably be the only person in the state with one on their wine list. Until someone else from my state reads this of course lol. So that's my most prized bottle as of yet. Now I just have to wait many years to drink it, to try to have it at it's peak. Great episode Gary, love you’re encouragement for people to continue to try new things. 2 things which most people haven’t tried that I would love to see you do on here would be: A tasting on different charbono’s, and 1 on vin jaune’s.
Which brings me to your qotd. The most prized wine in my cellar isn’t there yet, but will be finally in about 2 or 3 days. It’s a Caves Jean Bourdy 2002 vin jaune. I’ve been reading about these wines for a couple years, and how they are made. How rare they are, how long they take to make and age before release, and how they are only made in the French wine region of Jura. Most people haven’t even heard of the Jura region, much less their vin jaune’s. Been trying to find a distributor in my state that carries them, and had to look for a long time. No distributor’s listed in the beverage journal, had any vin jaune’s, and I couldn’t find any place that had 1, so I assumed they either weren’t coming to the U.S. or at least my state. Then about 6 months ago out of the blue, this guy pop’s his head in my restaurant and drops off a little catalog. Turn’s out he works for a very small wine distributor, not listed in the beverage journal [quite a few aren't, sure you know this, and i thought i knew who most of those companies were], that focused on wines and wine areas, not being picked up my most other distributors. There was even a whole section on Jura, whereas other distributor’s don’t even have a single wine from Jura! There were even 2 vin jaune’s on there, A Tissot 99 vintage, which was cheaper, and bottled in a 500ml bottle. Then there was the more expensive one, the Caves Jean Bourdy 2002, which was bottled in the traditional Clavelin 620ml bottles. The traditional clavelin bottle was part of the allure for me too, since it’s the only wine bottled in such a bottle. I thought those clavelin’s weren’t exported to the U.S., but maybe it slipped in under the radar, who knows? But, it’s whats inside that counts. So I went online to check out reviews and get info on the 2. Check out Jean Bourdy’s wines out on any website, garagistewine.com for instance. [i have no affiliation w any websites.] Apparently Jean Bourdy, this unknown winery to me has been making wine in the family for 14 generations since the 1700′s. But even better, sommelier’s in France consider it among the top 3 wineries in all of France that leads in both red and white wine’s. The other 2 are Chateau Haut-Brion, and Domain de la Romanee Conti. They went even further to say it may be the best of the 3. They did say that Jean Bourdy’s 1947 Chateau Chalon blanc may be single greatest white wine in the world of the 20th century. Their 1865 had received pretty much the same praise for the 19th century, which is still drinking well apparently. Red wines get similar praise from them, and review after review that I have read, is among the most stellar wine reviews I’ve ever read. And no it’s not cheap, but its probably a tenth of the price as those 1st growth Bordeaux’s and grand cru Burgundies. It’s just so damn hard to find. I did find out there is 1 liquor store downtown selling the Tissot vin jaune. But after hearing about the esteem of the Bourdy, and that being the only 1 of the 2 sold in the clavelin, I lost interest in that one fast, compared to the Bourdy. Of course that didn’t make getting the budget from my boss any easier in ordering it, a whole different story. So anyway, after trying for almost 2 years, and I can find things working in the business that the avg consumer can’t, I’ll finally have that wine for myself in a few days, and probably be the only person in the state with one on their wine list. Until someone else from my state reads this of course lol. So that’s my most prized bottle as of yet. Now I just have to wait many years to drink it, to try to have it at it’s peak.

]]> By: thefanjestic http://tv.winelibrary.com/2006/08/21/four-south-african-wines-episode-75/comment-page-4/#comment-221807 thefanjestic Tue, 12 Feb 2008 04:24:08 +0000 http://tv.winelibrary.com/2006/08/21/four-south-african-wines-episode-75/#comment-221807 Episode rating - B+ 89 points Qotd: Chateau Haut Brion 1999 - my wife and I openned a bottle before we decided to start the journey of making our daughter. I have since gone back and bought another bottle for when we make a second edition. ;) Episode rating – B+ 89 points

Qotd: Chateau Haut Brion 1999 – my wife and I openned a bottle before we decided to start the journey of making our daughter. I have since gone back and bought another bottle for when we make a second edition. ;)

]]> By: thefanjestic http://tv.winelibrary.com/2006/08/21/four-south-african-wines-episode-75/comment-page-4/#comment-779742 thefanjestic Tue, 12 Feb 2008 04:24:00 +0000 http://tv.winelibrary.com/2006/08/21/four-south-african-wines-episode-75/#comment-779742 Episode rating - B+ 89 points Qotd: Chateau Haut Brion 1999 - my wife and I openned a bottle before we decided to start the journey of making our daughter. I have since gone back and bought another bottle for when we make a second edition. ;) Episode rating – B+ 89 points

Qotd: Chateau Haut Brion 1999 – my wife and I openned a bottle before we decided to start the journey of making our daughter. I have since gone back and bought another bottle for when we make a second edition. ;)

]]> By: Chris http://tv.winelibrary.com/2006/08/21/four-south-african-wines-episode-75/comment-page-4/#comment-207748 Chris Wed, 30 Jan 2008 23:44:23 +0000 http://tv.winelibrary.com/2006/08/21/four-south-african-wines-episode-75/#comment-207748 QOTD- I won a 3L of 2002 Insignia in a raffle (bought 2 Le Mistrals). Not sure when I will open it. Maybe if I ever get married. Any ladies out there? LOL QOTD-

I won a 3L of 2002 Insignia in a raffle (bought 2 Le Mistrals). Not sure when I will open it. Maybe if I ever get married. Any ladies out there? LOL

]]> By: Chris http://tv.winelibrary.com/2006/08/21/four-south-african-wines-episode-75/comment-page-4/#comment-779741 Chris Wed, 30 Jan 2008 23:44:00 +0000 http://tv.winelibrary.com/2006/08/21/four-south-african-wines-episode-75/#comment-779741 QOTD- I won a 3L of 2002 Insignia in a raffle (bought 2 Le Mistrals). Not sure when I will open it. Maybe if I ever get married. Any ladies out there? LOL QOTD-

I won a 3L of 2002 Insignia in a raffle (bought 2 Le Mistrals). Not sure when I will open it. Maybe if I ever get married. Any ladies out there? LOL

]]> By: GrapeThinking | Wine, Culture, Lifestyle http://tv.winelibrary.com/2006/08/21/four-south-african-wines-episode-75/comment-page-4/#comment-122656 GrapeThinking | Wine, Culture, Lifestyle Fri, 28 Sep 2007 19:38:46 +0000 http://tv.winelibrary.com/2006/08/21/four-south-african-wines-episode-75/#comment-122656 [...] Pinotage required to make this a Cape Blend offers spontaneous combustion of fruit profiles with undercurrents of sweet spice from the Merlot [...] [...] Pinotage required to make this a Cape Blend offers spontaneous combustion of fruit profiles with undercurrents of sweet spice from the Merlot [...]

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