2001 California Cabernet tasting and remembering. – Episode #87

September 11, 2006

Wines tasted in this episode:

Today Gary Vaynerchuk tastes through 3 different California Cabernet Sauvignons. Also Gary wants you to ask whatever wine questions you have in the comments section that you want him to answer. Todays episode is a real interesting one for many reasons, please check it out!

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  1. April 20, 2008

    Kristen

    This was a really classy way to commemorate the day GV. I know it was crazy for you tri-staters- it was weird enough for me who had just been to the city and went to the observation deck on the tower while visiting.

    QOTD: Well, I’ve been drinking the 2005 Le musclé and the 2004 Bertrand Bergé cuvée ancestrale. Tonight I cracked open something exotic- Boutari Retsina (not quite sure of the vintage). Decided to try a Greek wine. Not a fan of this because it’s aged in wood casks with pine resin. I feel like I’m eating the forest floor in Maine. You’re scared of the Oak Monster GV (as am I), but I found something worse- the Pine Monster!

  2. February 14, 2008

    thefanjestic

    God Bless America – Very nice tribute – that was amazing to hear from someone much closer to the event. Wow – not much else to say.

  3. July 18, 2007

    David Canada

    I too remember where I was on 9/11. It must have been surreal for you guys.
    QOTD – Languedoc Voigner, I love the aeromatics on this wine but I am getting close to that threshold…I think I have had about 2 cases of this over the summer so need to move on. I also have been drinking a 2000 Weinert Cabernet from Argentina which as been a relatively good QPR for everyday drinking.

  4. April 15, 2007

    Veronica

    Drinking the Kobalt cab. Outstanding.

  5. December 19, 2006

    Joe

    Delectus is a GREAT winery. I’ve been there and met Gerhardt and the amazing woman that helps it run, Liz. The Cab is just the tip of the iceberg from them.A star in the making.

    My last few bottles;

    01 Avignonesi Vino Nobile..Tuscan fruit and terroir..mmmmm
    03 Gary Farrel Petite Syrah…Black cherry, rich.Very nice but Delectus does PS even better
    01 Ornellaia Le Serre Nuove…wow.Loved it. It got better and better.
    95 Antinori Pian delle vigne Brunello…seemed tired
    95 Foradori Granato…the 99 blows the 95 away
    03 St. Clement Orropas…loved it and agree with Gary
    00 Enviere from Burgess…fantastic

    Thanks Gary!

  6. September 20, 2006

    Brandon M

    Tasting the Bennet Lane Maximus at this price point (2003) might be great also…I’ve had four bottle…and they’re GONE

  7. September 13, 2006

    Rich S

    Hi Gary,

    Another solid episode and it was nice of you to touch on some of the things going through your mind 5 years ago. As far as what I am/have been drinking, I had a 2003 Gabbiano Chianti Classico (from WL) last Sunday with some pasta as I watched football all day long and tonight I am going to a dinner party and am bringing a couple of nice white wines. A 2004 interesting white blend from a small winery in Oregon and a bottle of a semi-dry sparkling white from Renault Winery in our great home state of NJ. I hope they both deliver……….

    As far as my question goes, what are your thoughts on the 2003 Chateau Cap de Faugeres Bordeaux? I bought a futures case from WL when it was offered and I have read a lot of great reviews of it but I have yet to try a bottle!!!! Any insight would be great. Thanks!

  8. September 12, 2006

    sheila

    Agree with answering: best decanting tips (how long for what age, varietals) and how to know when to drink various types of wine.

    For the last week +:
    1. Clio 2003–awesome (bought before your episode and am unable to get more now)
    2. Crozes Hermitage 2003–very good
    3. Lesec cdp–not my favorite, perhaps needs to age
    4. Domaine Magellan Syrah-Grenache 2003–very good
    5. Warwick Three Ladies Cape Blend–good

    sheila

  9. September 12, 2006

    Matty Van

    OLD WORLD VS. NEW WORLD –

    Old World (Europe), wines that speak of the earth and a sense of place; versus fruit-driven, big and bold wine styles from the New World (The Americas and Down Under).

    and a link to a website with a detailed description of old vs new

    http://www.wineloverspage.com/wineadvisor1/tswa050822.phtml

  10. September 12, 2006

    JP

    Gary,

    Your QOD… Domaine De La Garrigue Cotes Du Rhone Cuvee Romaine 2004. I purchased from WL. I supplied the wine for my son’s wedding rehearsal dinner. It was better wine than the restaurant offered for the money. I had many positive comments about the Cotes Du Rhone. Great wine for the money. I have also had two wines recently I like a lot. Baldacci Cabernet(2001 & 2003) and Reynolds Family Winery Persistence 2002 (red). They are both great. My question for you. What is the mid-palate? Is it the part of the tongue or is is the middle of the taste?

  11. September 12, 2006

    Veronica

    Nice tribute…

    On Sat we had Syrage, a lovely blend from California under $15. (syrah, petit syrah, petit verdot)

  12. September 12, 2006

    Tampa Steve

    Nice tibute Gary. I do not think any of us will ever forget that day.
    BAD….BAD day for the Bucs Sunday……what else can I say…..
    What I have been drinking:
    2000 Travaglini Gattinara (nice, a little heavy on the smoke)
    Langmeil Valley Floor Shiraz 2002 (real nice)
    Cantelys 2003 (real nice)

    You can see that I have been trying a few of the wines I got from you;)

  13. September 12, 2006

    Marc Mc

    QOD
    2002 Marquis Philips Shiraz
    1999 Seavy

    Gary, Will you offer special tasting cases of your recommended wines? It would be a great way to calibrate our tastes with yours and try many different wines.

  14. September 12, 2006

    Lawrence Leichtman

    Question for you Gary. What do you think about the replay of the California Cab versus Bordeaux retasting that was done recently. They actually attempted to retaste some of the wines from 1976 and many had faded into obscurity and the consensus was that Clifornia won again but I can’t believe you can really compare the two types. Just would like your opinion.

    Drinking lately have been on a Zind kick
    Teldeschi 2001 Alexander Valley Zindfandel… very jammy upfront fruit long lingering finsh, very typical Cal Zind
    Turley Rattlesnake Vinyanrd 1999 Zind.. totally over the top nose and dark berry taste with great finish. One of the best Zind’s I’ve ever had
    Also the Saints and Sinners 2005 Viognier from Gray’s recommendation. On my second bottle and it is a great food wine, thanks Gary!!

    Somber comments on 2001 were appreciated here.

  15. September 12, 2006

    Jaye

    To Scotty (comment 51) . . . I am soooo jealous! I got Pizza and Sangria on my 40th this past March. Please post back after you recover from your party and let us know how everything was.

  16. September 12, 2006

    Bill

    Gary – nice job today. In an environment where everything can tend to become over-sentimentalised and almost jingoistic, your measured and dignified tribute was all the more powerful for that. I wish some of the networks would find similar grace and humility from somewhere; you never know, world leaders might even then do the same! (yeah, fat chance!)
    Wines consumed in the last week or so that have been most enjoyable have been Lindemans Pyrus 2001, and Gallo Barelli Creek Zin 1999. Not great but very enjoyable. Also had the much-raved-over Mollydooker Boxer, which is a bit over-the-top right now. Bay FAR the best, however, was a McIvor Creek 2002 Shiraz from Heathcote (Victoria, Aust.). Great, great wine. My girlfriend and I score wine on a 20 point scale, and we scored this at 20. The first one ever. This is not available in the USA, and I bought it at the winery on a recent visit to Australia last July. Truly, truly wonderful stuff.
    So . . . . as far as I can see, the only wine you have at Wine Library that is even remotely like this is the Sanguine Heathcote Shiraz 2003. This has been well reviewd in Australia, and appears on your site with a Tanzer 91. I would be THRILLED if you were to include this on you next (or a soon-to-be-appearing) episode. I think it would fit in well. I have done quite a bit of tasting round the world (France, Italy, Australia mainly) and the few days in Heathcote were probably the most enjoyable of all. Fantastic wines with real character. I am sure the Sanguine would show well!
    Best regards!

  17. September 12, 2006

    Michael Waldron

    Hey Gary,

    First time I have e-mailed you but I am a pretty good customer of yours. [At least I liked to think so; feel free to look up my name. I have had the pleasure of adding over a dozen customers to your list.] I have been collecting for 7-8 years. I usually store appox 500 bottles. I drink with friends and clients appox 150 bottles a year.

    I do not have an unlimited budget but seem to have created a high end pallet. I use wine to help my business [marketing] and enjoy educating and sharing wine with my friends and customers. I have spoke to Ian several times for specific items and ideas. You said you would respond to a couple of questions so let’s see if you can do it. [I am not big on e-mail so I probably won’t be bugging you again.]

    First I want to say greetings from the great state of Florida…..I am a proud [even after last week] Bucs season ticket holder…the next time the Jets visit you are welcome to my tickets. We got the Giants this year and no offense but I rather play the Jets. As bad as you guys were last year you still beat us with a 70 year old quarterback…former Buc no less.

    I love big wines complex wines but I don’t want to wait 20-40 years for them to develop. [First growths] My favorites are Cabs, complex Pinots, White Burgundies, and Tuscan wines to name a few. What do I drink…..well some of my all time favorites I can get from you….[I have to get on the winery private list.]

    Pride [all reds], Lewis [all wines], Spring Mountain, Joseph Phelps [cab/insignia, over produced but usually still wonderful], Steward, Quintessa’s Faust, Robert Foley, ECT. As you can see I love mountain grown fruit. The elevation seems to produce things that other wineries can not duplicate. Is this just due to being above the clouds for temp and sun purposes?

    Can you review some of the wines I have been buying from you and make any suggestion from small little known or up coming wines? I know this type of wines is not cheap. I did get three bottles of an Australian Cab “Gralyn” that you stated was the best Cab you ever had. Due to your high recommendation, I chose to cellar them for at least 2-3 years before I try them.

    Any recommendations on where I might want to go with my collection? My goal is to continue to collect for years to come but keep the bottle count at 500-600 bottles. I want to continue to upgrade and cellar my collection.

    Final question and this one is specific…..bought a case of Palomero 04’. High rated Spanish wine……I tried one bottle and I don’t know if it was because I am not used to the Tinto Pino varietals but it was one of the most tannic wines I have ever had. The tannins were so over powering that I had a hard time recognizing some of the other qualities of this wine. Is this wine not ready to drink? Do I cellar it for 10 years? Am I an idiot?

    Gary…..you seem a lot like me and we are about the same age….I don’t want to through a bunch of obvious complements as your success speaks for itself…..but some day we will share a glass of wine [or maybe a beer] together. Take care.

    P.S. Isn’t football season great!!!

  18. September 12, 2006

    Adam

    Hey Gary,
    Great episode today.

    I’ve asked the same question for a while now, so just check the last 2 videos for my question. Keep up the good work!

    Adam

  19. September 12, 2006

    Vinacull

    GV, Touching words of remembrance today, and a solid EP. QOTD: Recent wines were 2000 Torbreck Steading (alas, my last bottle), ‘86 Chateau Talbot (WOW), ‘97 Olrepo Pavese La Strega e la Gazza (Gary please do a show on Barbera), ‘97 Catena Alta Cab Sav (very nice) and daily reds ‘04 Laurent Plum Bleu (floral, beautiful, great value), Castano Hecula (thanks GV/WLTV, thumbs up), Jumilla Panarroz (just say no on this one).

  20. September 12, 2006

    Bill

    Gary, great episode. The Pentagon plane flew right over my office building on its way to the Pentagon two miles away. It was a terrible day, and almost as bad as the terrible leadership that has divided our country since.

    One small suggestoin for improvement of this site. A LOT of people ask you questions in these threads, but you dont answer very many. I think you should either encourage others to answer them or make an effort to spend a bit more time interacting with the customers. I’ll answer one of my own: I would NOT commit infanticide on a 2003 Leoville Las Cases if I owned any. A premier bottle like that should spend at least 10 years in the cellar.

  21. September 12, 2006

    Cellbrokers

    Gary -

    Love the video blog. Us web marketers would love to get some input from you over on winemarketer.com where there is a little thread about you. I tooted your horn a little, but asked some great questions.
    http://www.winemarketer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29

  22. September 12, 2006

    Bruce

    Hi Gary,

    Wines this week; 2003 Rosenblum Syrah – Yolo County, 2003 Penner Ash Pinot, 2005 Kim Crawford Sauv Blanc, 2004 Willamette Valley Whole Cluster Pinot. 2002 Alta Catena Malbec and 2003 Ridge Geyerville Zin. Last two at a business dinner. All were excellent and would recommend highly. Do you think I drink too much!?

    I know you tried this before, but thought you should do an episode where you tell us a week in advance or more of what you will be tasting and allow us to get them and taste with you. i think it would be very educational if you walked us through step by step while tasting and then explained the nose and flavors you are experiencing. I think it would help us all learn how to taste and identify aromas and flavors. Maybe just two or three bottles maximum. Would be fun!

    Another suggestion – Could you incorportate more food pairing into your tastings? My Wife and I love to buy cheeses and pates to go with our wines and also love having the right wine for the food we are eating, makes a world of difference. Adding more pairing ideas would be great.

    Thanks,

    Bruce

  23. September 12, 2006

    Fluffy

    Hey G-man (do u late that?)
    Bravo, good show yesterday (9/11), balanced the fruit and acid especially with your tribute.

    Over the weekend I enjoyed the following (I know because I keep the bottles for a few days to savor any magic and to reflect on any lingering finish I can recall, but it drives my wife crazy mad):
    1976 Dhron Hofberger Riesling Beerenauslese wow! still has it
    1980 William Hill Mt. Veeder Cab let’s move on
    2000 Louis Bernard Cotes-du-Rhone Villages good but overated by spectator
    2003 Serge Laloue Sancere Reserve: flat out outstanding, knowing your love of Sancere what do think of this one?
    2003 Corte Rugolin Ripasso – the real deal of baby amarone’s
    Chateau de Laubade Armagnac XO- beautious all the way, the flavors are still with me from Saturday

    Q’s for U’s: What’s your take on all this global warming hype? Have any of the great terrior vineyards begin to see changes? Should we be looking for wine investment property in Canada? Any thoughts for the lay man on last week’s reshuffing of the Grand Cru system in Saint Emillion and what this means to the world?

    Keep it up. look forward to Tuesday’s output. Peace out

  24. September 12, 2006

    Rob M.

    Classy episode. Thanks for your thoughts. Living in Northern Virginia, I was in Florida when the planes crashed, unable to return to my family kept awake at night by fighter jets flying over the house. Not near the terror as so many people felt, but difficult to me none the less.

    One of the things I respect about you is that you never seem to talk bad about anyone. You apologize when you do not score wines well (but state you call it like you see it). You did not say anything bad about the Wine Enthusiast, but I (think I) can tell you do not care for their ratings (or publication?). When tasting wines, I get a sense of honesty from you, not just that you are trying to sell your stock. Thanks.

    Crow tastes terrible, but I have eaten my share. Dolphins lose, Jets win, Bills almost pull off upset- would have love to see the Pats lose. Looks like the World Series will be a subway series. Congrats to all the NY teams.

    Drinking lately: 2003 Mackenzie Cabernet (10.99/bottle, bought purely because my daughter is named Mackenzie). Solid at that price point, but nothing special. 2004 Piping Shrike- remember loving the 2002, 2003, but the 2004 was nothing special. Not worth the $17 or so I think I paid for it. Thoroughly enjoyed a 2003 Moon Mountain Cab a few weeks ago, so I tried a 2004 Moon Mountain Chardonay- I do not drink a lot of white wine, but I like this wine a lot. I actually like the characteristics most people talk bad about today in chard- oak, butter, full body. This wine was none of those, but very enjoyable. Around $13.

  25. September 12, 2006

    David M

    Hey Gary!
    Being in Malibu keeps me removed however all my family live in north NJ and Manahattan,we lost some good people that day, I rember as well! Drinking Cayuse Bionic Frog…insane,St Cosme Gigondas, Trio Infernal Priorat…I am very fortunate! QTD…Big wine good or evil? Of course I refering to the article in Food & Wine interviewing two famous sommeliers and how to deal with “Big Wine”. In addition Wine & Spirits Best Wine issue broke critics picks into low alcohol and high octane wines. Finally the offical BATF defines “Table Wine” as not exceeding 14% and “Dessert Wine” between 14% and 24%.The implication is that a majority of wines and being over-oaked, high alcohol, and manipulated with sugar or dealcoholed for early approachability. With lower alcohol wines such as Rose becoming more popular, what are your thoughts on this topic?

    Regards,

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