Canadian Ice Wine and Dessert Wine….OH CANADA! – Episode #90

September 14, 2006

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Today Gary attacks and talks about Canadian Ice wines and Dessert wines. Gary is blown away by the efforts from up North and asks a great little question. Please join in and ask Gary some questions and look for the fun and excitement in this episode!

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  1. September 14, 2006

    Radders

    Hi Gary

    Just getting into wine, i’ve got a bottle of Lafitte, Montrose, Cos D’Estournel and Rauzan Segla as my trophy shelf and lots of other wines to drink, i’ve even started keeping my own tasting notes. Loving the show here in the UK. Its so nice to have someone who combines knowledge and joy of wine whilst keeping it fun and unpretentious – your show makes me want to go and buy more wine, great job.

    On the dessert wine from i really like Hungarian Tokaji – great apricot and honey flavours and I know exactly what you mean when you say that its a wine that could get you drunk, its so easy to slip back. I’ve also had some saint croix du mont in france, i get the impression that its sort of Sauternes cheap cousin.

    I wont be affording any ice wine anytime soon (very pricy here in the UK) but maybe one day.

    Have you considered doing a show on north Rhone wines – i love Jaboulets La Chapelle and Guigals wines, i’d be interested to know what you think.

    Keep up the great work!

  2. September 14, 2006

    GOL

    QOD: I’ve had d’Yquem three times, ‘90, ‘94, ‘99… while I imagine ‘99 is a bit young, it still blew me away, and the ‘90 was something else, so let me be the first this page to hype the super-hyped super famous d’Yquem. For me, it delivers, even for the price. That said, for a dessert wine in the price range in which I usually tread, I really liked 2004 Kestrel Ice Wine, made from Chardonnay, which I had several weeks ago. Probably also young, but I didn’t mind!

  3. September 14, 2006

    Karen

    yay. peter g. and canada and great wines all in one episode. i feel like i should be an ice wine fan now, being canuck and all. ice wine is a bit cliche here too i think, but then i don’t have the same sweet tooth as ice wine fans so maybe i’m just overgeneralizing. i’ve learned enough about wines now to know it’s the old earthy juices that i crave. but then we also have wines here i do like (from niagara but also pelee island our southernmost point, and british columbia) that haven’t been nipped by frost….and, um…we definitely have much better beer. :)

  4. September 14, 2006

    Dan G.

    I have 2 bottle of dessert wines and never tried them yet. Not sure what Im waiting for. IF you had tried Labbatt Blue it would of had a winner 90 pts DG. BTW nice episode, I learned a lot. Thanks.

    Dan

  5. September 14, 2006

    wey

    This is the most exciting thing about wine… there are just so many types and styles of wine!

    Personally, I should drink a lot more of those sweet wines. Ocassionally, I have some port with my blue cheese etc. How about an ep on (Vintage) Ports?

    Cheers!
    W.

  6. September 14, 2006

    Ian S.

    Love the Ice Wine show! more people need to know about it and splurge on a bottle.
    for me the best desert wine i’v had was a “1988 Chateau Megyer Tokaji Aszú 5 Puttonyos” I drank earlier this year, even better it was given to me! Amazing wine! I think you should do a Tokaji episode since you say thats your favoret.

  7. September 14, 2006

    Bill

    Best ever desert wine: Buller’s Very Old Museum Release Muscat (Rutherglen, Victoria), using some material dating back to the 19th century. Parker (who does, as you suggest Gary, go a bit overboard on desert wines sometimes!) scored it 100 I do believe. Tasted at the winery in summer (over 100 degrees) and still awesome!

  8. September 14, 2006

    Chris

    I forgot the Foreau is my 2nd favorite desert wine. The easy winner is Chambers Rare Muscat. Awsome stuff!

  9. September 14, 2006

    Chris

    Gary,
    Great episode! How long, if at all, do you suggest cellaring ice wine?

    My favorite desert wine is 1995 Foreau Vouvray Moelleux Réserve Clos Naudin.

  10. September 14, 2006

    Tony

    Hey!! My gravatar finally changed! No more green grape leaves, it’s just pure grapes now. But I haven’t changed. :-)

    PS, Gray I didn’t mention your plan for the heat episode. Thanks for mentioning it! I’m really, really looking forward to it! Please make sure you address the core issue in my original question about how heat affects/accelerates aging. I mean, if heat accelerates aging, why store that Latour at 55 degress and wait 15 years to drink it? Why not store it next to the furance and drink it in six months? Obviously, something else is happening. That’s what I want to learn about.

    I guess I need to root for global warming to hit in the next few weeks, huh? ;-) Can you give us a preview on what the 4 wines will be?

    PPS, Thanks for another great episode. I never miss a one.

  11. September 14, 2006

    Rob M.

    Thank you for changing the site so we can click on the wines directly and viewing them in a new window without right-clicking and selecting “open new window”.

    I have not had many ice wines, sauternes, etc, so I can’t answer the QOD. I most certainly will try now. I can’t remember an episode where you liked every wine, especially when you tasted 6 wines.

    91 and one-half??? Nice score.

    I would like to try a pure Petit Verdot. Looks like the only thing you currently offer is the Teal Lake (website says an Australian Kosher wine), and it is 55% PV and 45% Cab. Any suggestions on what to try?

    Don’t know if you listen, but did you here Mike Greenberg on Mike and Mike in the Morning (a huge Jets fan) ragging on Herman Edwards this am?

  12. September 14, 2006

    Italian Stallion

    Another great episode Gary….You really opened my eyes to Ice Wine. I never had a desire to have it, but after hearing the rave reviews, I think its time i tried them. Thanks Gary

  13. September 14, 2006

    Tony

    When I saw the Jackson-Triggs in the lineup, I wondered what you would think of it. I had it last spring, and thought it was da bomb. I was a bit worried that you might give it a pass, but I needn’t have worried. When you sniffed it, I was thinking to myself “peach jam, that’s what he’s got to be smelling”, because that’s what I smelled. Peach marmalade was pretty close. Not so sure about the Auto body shop, but I know exactly what you mean.

    It’s good to know that we have similar tastes. The whole thing about wine critics, whether it’s you or Parker or whoever, is that it’s all about trust. Do you trust the palate of the critic or not? And that trust has to be based on something more than just a name – it has to be based on shared experience. That’s why it’s good to get confirmation from you on the Jackson-Triggs. We have a shared experience and a similar opinion. So next time you give a wine a 93 I have something to measure that against as well as an experience that tells me that a GV 93 is meaningful to my palate. I think WS gave it an 87. When I read that I thought they had missed the boat terribly.

    BTW, I had the Braut and Sistra cab the other night, and was reasonanly impressed. good depth and complexity for the price. Another good recommendation. So far, to my palate, you’re batting 1.000.

  14. September 14, 2006

    Rich S

    I forgot to answer the QoD. My favorite dessert wine that I have ever had (twice to be exact) was the Penfolds 20 year Grandfather Reserve Tawny Port. Absolutely amazing stuff. I have never had another port that could come close to it.

  15. September 14, 2006

    CJM

    Gene M,

    I’ve taken up camera duties now and when I setup the shot I didn’t see the window in the viewfinder. But when I was editing the video I saw it too. Well I’ll get it figured out!

  16. September 14, 2006

    ML

    Great episode Gary. I love the ice wines…definitely underappreciated. How age worthy are ice wines? Will they improve over time?

  17. September 14, 2006

    TimF

    I’m a huge dessert wine fan. My favorite dessert wine has got to be a 1983 Warre Port I had a few months ago. I LOVE the icewine. I was kind of surprised that you didn’t open a bottle of Neige apple ice wine. Neige is the reason I first came to the WL website. I saw it featured on one of Andrea Immer’s shows and sought it out. WL was the only place that had it.

  18. September 14, 2006

    Rich S

    Great episode GV!!! I am big dessert wine fans and actually have had the Jackson Triggs and loved it! My question is related to serving temperatures for dessert wines, specific ice wines and last harvest rieslings and the like. What are your thoughts? I like mine on the chilled side but does that mask the flavors of the wine? Please let me know! Thanks.

  19. September 14, 2006

    MBG

    Gary,

    Fantastic episode. I’ve been a big dessert wine drinker and collector for 10 years.(LH wines, port, sherry, madeira, ice wine, tokaji, muscat, sauternes etc.) My 2 favorite types of dessert wines, and in my opinion 2 of the best values in this arena, are PX Sherry(Pedro Ximenez)and the Tokay’s and Muscats from Australia(Stickies). You can find 95-100 point rated wines for between $20-$50/375 ML. Buller, Yalumba and Chambers are a few producers whose quality are off the charts.

  20. September 14, 2006

    karl satirev

    Not the best, but certainly the most interesting dessert wine was ice cold Federweisser in Rothenburg ob der Taube. Vintage 15 minutes. Fun stuff!

  21. September 14, 2006

    Gene Mishkevich

    whats up with video camera positioning today? u can see people walk by…

  22. September 14, 2006

    Pinot Noir Guy

    My wife has been to Jackson Triggs so it will be interesing to see what you think

  23. September 14, 2006

    Brandon M

    Gary…great Godfather arm stretch at the end. Molson Golden…cmon…Molson Ice Baby…would’ve went with the Eiswine episode.

    For sentimental reasons my favorite after dinner wine would have to be that Peiroth 1976 Eiswine, but it’s purely sentimental.

    B

  24. September 14, 2006

    Brandon M

    Damn…nice…Tim F

  25. September 14, 2006

    Brandon M

    Success #7 ?

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