Red Burgundy Wine Tasting.

Red Burgundy Wine Tasting. – Episode #104

October 10, 2006

Wines tasted in this episode:

Watch today as Gary tackles four red burgundies. Tune in today and see what Gary thinks of these four, one of the great wines of the world. More viewer questions answered and a new QOD.

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October 11, 2006

TimF
MikeMe: I echo your request for the Provenance Cab. I went there when I was in Napa because it was recommended by our pourer at Whitehall Lane. I was very impressed with their wines and their tasting room. It seemed like a vastly overlooked winery when I was there. I just don’t understand why so many people want to go to a place like V. Sattui and miss out on a gem like Provenance.
October 11, 2006

Bill T.
VALUE JUICE, Gary, Lead us to the value juice!
October 11, 2006

SS Chris
Regarding the VaynerVOTE on the VaynerNAME,

Since I was the one who nominated VaynIACS, I thought it improper to comment first, but now that it is once again in play, I will add my 2 cents.

I agree with Tony and GOL that calling ourselves Wine Librarians is wrong for a # of reasons: #1-it possesses a degree of Wine Snobbery which is the opposite of WLTV (btw, calling the store “Wine Library” is different and not snobby, but calling ourselves “Wine Librarians” is); #2-some people seem to have forgotten that this all started w/ the VaynerNOD and VaynerChuck and VaynerCLANK, etc. etc. etc. Hence, any VaynerNAME is far superior. BTW, it doesn’t have to be VanIACSâ€¦.VaynerNATION (my personal favorite), VaynerPEEPS, VaynerANYTHING are all better just because they have the Vayner prefix.

Finally, I do feel compelled to defend VaynIACSâ€¦.and not because it lost the vote, but rather because VaynIACS was really the only name that experienced an actual Negative AD campaign. Most everyone either nominated a name OR simply commented on what their favorite(s) was (were). On the other hand, BIG BILLY left a bunch of comments attacking it. This seemed improper to me…why not just let people vote. Moreover, in BIG BILLYâ€™s attack ads, he repeatedly used an inaccurate and very negative definition of Maniac calling it “latent tendencies of sociopathâ€. The â€œMerriam-Websterâ€™s Pocket Dictionaryâ€ provides these 2 definitions for Mania (the root word): 1: insanity marked by uncontrollable emotion or excitement 2: excessive enthusiasm. I would say that the 2 definition of â€œexcessive enthusiasmâ€ is the meaning that I and, I believe most VaynIACS are connecting with. Although some of us feel slightly insane regarding our mini-addiction to WLTV. But either of the accurate definitions is better than what BIG BILLY saysâ€¦.he made sound like we were John Wayne Gacey or Ted Bundy for goodness sakeâ€™s.

Also, one final note that I cannot resistâ€” based on the number of comments that have used VaynIACS versus Wine Librarians, I must admit that something seems fishy. And I’m not blaming Brandon M. in anyway, but it seems like somebody found a way to stuff the ballot box.

BIG BILLYâ€¦.is your last name Rove by any chanceâ€¦.or maybe youâ€™re Derek using a different BLOG NAME. lol

P.S. For those of you who donâ€™t knowâ€¦this over-the-top, overanalyzed email is half a jokeâ€¦..itâ€™s a semi â€œmaniacalâ€ response that supports VaynIAC!!! To all, I sayâ€¦.decant & drink.
October 11, 2006

SS Chris
Gary, How about tasting the 2 Numanthia’a (Toro & Premanthia).

The Toro is a 96 by Parker for $39…nice QPR!

The Premanthia is 92 by RP for $139..not a great QPR

wondering if you’ll agree with Bob.
October 11, 2006

GeneV
I’ll go back a few episodes and suggest you taste Leon Beyer Comtes de Eguisheim.* I returned from a trip to Alsace to find you had tasted Alsace wines on the day I was on the plane over the ocean. It was also terrific to see that WL carried this Beyer, which is a top cuvee from the Eichberg Grand Cru vineyard. I spent several days tasting, eating and drinking in and around the gorgeous village of Eguisheim (where everyone seems to be making wine in their 16th century garage–I’d be happy to share photos), and this wine was the most amazing Riesling revelation. The flavor is of a bottle of rocks and earth covered with flowers and white fruit that just fell off the tree. Best wine ever with wild mushroom soup or the beautiful fish ravioli in saffron broth at the Caveau d’Eguisheim. Anyone who tries a dry Alsatian Grand Cru Riesling at least once will see many assumptions about this grape fall away.

*News flash–it looks like I may have bought you out of this wine, unless someone made a mistake. I was told that the Beyer Pinot Noir was sold out, but it is still on the site, and instead the Comtes is gone.
October 11, 2006

Brandon M.
Mark T…
YOU KNOW I WAS WATCHING! I’m glad Shamrock is done, but the two finally ended classy!

UFC 65…ARCO ARENA…25 minutes from my house….I CANNOT WAIT..MONSON BABY!!!!!!!!!

Tony…this is an open invitation for you and your wife to come to my house and have dinner and enjoy a “value” wine from WLTV, I will pick you up in the Bentley, drive you to our Roseville Estate, where Biba Caggiano will cook you your favorite meal. After dinner we will dine on the terrace with Louie XIII overlooking the neighbors backyard!

And for all…I have commited myself to be a VayneOPHILE…cause I think Mark T is RIGHT!

B
October 11, 2006

diego de la p...
great episode today gary, i think you should taste:
Zenato Amarone Riserva Sergio Zenato 2000
October 11, 2006

MikeMe
Great show today. Looking forward to SF party!

QOD: I would like you to taste anyone of these three:
2002 Hartwell Cab Sauv (if I have to just pick one)
2002 Provenance Cab Sauv
2002 Chimney Rock Elevage or the 2003 Cab Sauv

I know (especially the Hartwell) that a couple of the above are pricy but would really like your opinion on any of them.
October 11, 2006

Brandon M.
For All…

To be personally honest, I don’t think Wine Librarians is the best fit and I think Vaniacs is a slogan / shirt I would rather wear. I hope you all realize that I put the web site up, let it run, and then pulled out any erroneous email adrreses that were in the DB (ie…president@whitehouse.gov, President Bush…if this was you I apologize, vote again under your private email!…also smiley faces and one word email addresses)

Someone REALLY wanted Vaniacs and voted over 100 times with email addresses like vaniac@aol.com, vaniac1@aol.com, vaniac2@aol.com..etc, etc, etc….
This is why the numbers changed so drastically on the last day.

I even emailed Gary today to see what his reaction may be.
This is not something he may want to get involved with, but I have asked his opinion just in case.

Some of you have submitted design ideas on Wine Librarians, and to be honest with the BLOG, IT is something I would be happy wearing, but Vaniacs still rings much better to me.

I would ask Gary if it is OK to Vote on the BLOG and then I will Tally the answers by userName….you could only vote on either Wine Librarian or Vaniacs since they were overwhelmingly voted on, and the vote tally would show up on http://www.Vayernvote.com

Anybody…any thoughts????

and oh ya….San Francisco BABY…I will do anything in my power to make this a memory we will ALL remember, so even if I do not coordinate, you will be glad you came, or, if you don’t come, you will be sorry you missed.

One more thing….I WILL be coming to New York for the East Coast party, so, I expect it to be as good as SF.

whew…my fingers are tired…

B
October 11, 2006

MarcT
I have to agree with PeteBâ€¦Good call on the Larkmead ( I just got back from tasting thereâ€¦nice)

Jayeâ€¦Nice low dollar call on the Cheeky Chick Peeperâ€™s Blend Red 2004, I purchased a few bottles from WL to round off a case and I have been very pleased with it. I gave it an 88 on Cellar Tracker. 88 is not too bad for a sub $10 wine in my book. My girl liked it better than I. I like it with Mellow Mushroom Pizza.

ORTIZ 2:23 in the FIRST round!!!! Hell yeah!!!! BrandonMâ€¦I know you were watching that!

Tony Sâ€¦dâ€™Arenburg Dead Arm Shiraz both years are quality. 2000 seems to be ready to drink now while the 2001 might need a couple more years before it reaches its true potential. I give them both 91 points.

GaryVâ€¦Just let me know when the WLTV parties are and I am going to try and get to all three!!!

My number one vote for a tasting tomorrow isâ€¦
Larkmead Napa Cabernet Sauvignon 2003 #7734

Also what about the restaurant tour next year? If you are still interested in Atlanta, I have you covered!

Wowâ€¦as for the T-shirt and what we call ourselvesâ€¦if it really is that important to you then go and get your own shirt made that says what you want to be called and when you show up for the WLTV party (if you are truly a WLTV-aholic) then everyone there will already know what you are talking about. People on the streets will not understand what your shirt means until WLTV goes prime time. And by thenâ€¦DID YOU SEE ORTIZ BEAT SHAMROCK!!!

Sorryâ€¦Iâ€™m sick of talking about t-shirts. Iâ€™m a VayneOPHILE anyway!
October 11, 2006

Big Billy from Big D
The opposite would be:
I’m a Wine Librarian and I harbor no sociopathic tendencies.

Golly! GOL. Sociopathic behavior is not something to aspire to.
October 11, 2006

GOL
By the way, I’m certainly not knocking employees of WL. But Wine Librarian(s) seems like an appropriate name for someone who works at WL, you know, like when you used to go the library and ask them to help you find a book. A Wine Librarian helps you find the wine. We who are addicted to WLTV and GV’s antics are VAYNIACS.
October 11, 2006

Julius
Gary – I told you I would probably post a comment at one o’clock in the morning. Great super tasting, both for the wine and the food. And the Manor was a great venue for it. Thanks for putting it together.

As for a wine to taste, it’s one that I requested previously, the 2002 Nino Negri Sfursat 5 Stelle.

BTW, I was somewhat suprised not to see the Kenwood Chardonnay at the tasting, considering it was “very special” to you. As bad as the 2005 may have been (a la episode 100) it would have nice to raise a glass of it with you at the tasting.
October 11, 2006

GOL
Totally agree Big Billy. I like it and would definitely wear that. I would never wear “I’m a Wine Librarian”. Invites just the opposite of what you concluded.
October 11, 2006

Big Billy from Big D
The Vayniac shirt slogan should be:
I’m A Vayniac and I have Latent Sociopathic Tendencies.
Now that would say I dare you to try and kick my ass.
October 11, 2006

GOL
QOD – Scratch the above, instead taste the ‘02 Flora Springs Trilogy
October 11, 2006

GOL
Tony and Brandon M – Wine Librarian won? Are you kidding? I voted for Vayniac early, and checked the votes at some pt later in the voting and it wasn’t close. Wine Librarian is totally silly. No rhythm, too obvious of a nickname based on WL. People who work at WL should be called Wine Librarians. We are VAYNIACS. End of discussion

GV – GOL’s Girl and I would be more than happy to get involved and host or do whatever necessary to set up the Chitown WLTV party. Douglas, happy to work with you on it, whatever GV thinks.

QOD – Someone suggested Pillar Box. If you only have ‘05 don’t waste your time, but ‘04 was special at the price.
QOD (take 2) – Melville Estate Chardonnay ‘04
October 11, 2006

Big Billy from Big D
Tony,
All the Wine Librarian votes came in late Saturday afternoon. When voting closed Sunday – Vayniacs had won by 7 votes. Brandon in prepping the final count removed the votes from “Bogus” or “phony” email addresses. He stated in a post that over 100 Vayniac votes were removed because the Email addresses didn’t profile to a legitimate style “text@name.domain.” Wine Librarians lost less than 10 I think. I guess Librarians are better at following instructions to properly vote.

You may get your chance to vote in a vote of the marketplace. Wine Librarian Tshirts vs Vayniac Tshirts in a caged battle to the death. May the more popular Tshirt win! May the loser be vanquished to the dust bin of Wine Library history – sort of an Enoteca dumpster. Old Wine Librarians never die, they just get expectorated into spit buckets.

The truth of the matter is that, if everyone calls themselves Vayniacs, and nobody uses the term Wine Librarian, that will mean Vayniacs will have prevailed. Then we can enter into the realm of faux personality cults.

Be of good cheer
October 11, 2006

Dan G.
Tony, thats pretty funny. I dont think anyone would want a shirt with “Im a Wine Librarian” on it. Might as well say “kick my ass” instead. Vaniacs or Vaynerheads (sounds like some stoners though) would be the cool way to go. I have to agree on the 01 Guigal CDP. Great wine but expensive here in PA. 43 bucks. Makes the drive to the WL all that more enticing.
October 11, 2006

Russ J
Felsina Berardenga Chianti Classico Riserva Rancia 1995 AND a second vote for the
Giacomo Borgogno Grignolino 2004.
October 11, 2006

Flemboy
Gary,
Great show tonight. I have a passion for Burgundyâ€™s, but they are a tough to get a good one. You need to kiss some toads to find a queen. Anyway, how about a show that focuses on big brothers? You know, as an example Harlan & Maiden, Pahlmeyer & Jayson, Sonny & Cher (just kidding). It would be nice to see how they stack up to each other…

Good luck,
October 10, 2006

Italian Stallion
I would love for you to try the EDGE cabernet….but then everyone’s going to want it and make it impossible for me to buy, so on second thought….maybe not…lol

-Stallion
October 10, 2006

john maki
Gary,
Glad to hear you’ll be coming to San Francisco!
I’ve watched every show you’ve done, almost from the first day.
I love your approach to wine.

try the: Chat Pichon Lalande 1995, something a bit older.

john
October 10, 2006

Tony
Brandon,

I’ve noticed a couple of things:

1. Vayniacs had a huge lead all the way through the voting, but suddenly “Wine Librarians” won at the end.
2. I don’t hear anybody calling themselves a “Wine Librarian”.
3. People ARE still calling themselves “Vayniacs”.

So what’s up with that? I’m not sure I trust (or agree with) the results of this vote. I, for one, do NOT want a T-shirt that says “Wine Librarian” on it. “Hi, I’m Tony and I’m a Wine Librarian.” I don’t think so.

Anyone else want to weigh in on this? Time for a recount? Special election?
October 10, 2006

Italian Stallion
Gary Vayner-chuk,

It was awsome meeting you today at the store and great that you were able to chat at the wine tasting. The wine tasting by the way, was PHENOMENOL. It was also great meeting your wife…Hello Mrs. Vaynerchuk. For you guys out there who haven’t been fortunate enough to go to the Wine Library or meet Gary, he is an AMAZINGLY nice and down to earth guy. In a world of wine snobs, you have a down to earth, cool guy like Gary. Gary is the type of guy that you chill with on Sunday wearing sweat pants and your favorite teams jersey, with a 6 pack of Coronas (with limes of course)and eating pizza….(WOW, I just described my college years…lol). In any case, Gary it was great meeting you and keep up what your doing. We all know this show is tough to do because your so busy running that incredible store, but we all thank you. By the way, thanks for taking footage of the Stallion for your show. Can’t wait to try the Rocky Zinfadel (Of course I can’t, the name is ROCKY)

YOUR THE MAN

-Stallion