EP 109 Classic Wine Tasting.

Wines tasted in this episode:

Today Gary tastes some of the classics and treats himself and you to some of the greatest wines in the world including Mouton, Le Pin and Torbreck.

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Alexandre Savoie aka Sniffysix

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Anyways not a fan of Aussie shiraz or any aussie wine actually

Tags: Bordeaux, red meritage, red wines, review, Video, wine, wines

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  • SS Chris

    KAHUNA,
    I just saw your comment (#160) and addded Burns and Metropolitan Grill. Where is El Goucho so that I can add that one.

    By the way, this now makes ‘Burns Steakhouse’ in Tampa the ‘most recommended’ restaurant on the SS (recommended 4 times by: Tampa Steve, Kahuna, Ian S. and Michael W). Both ‘Daniel’ and ‘Grammercy Tavern’,both in NYC, have been recommended 3 times.

  • SS Chris

    KAHUNA,
    I just saw your comment (#160) and addded Burns and Metropolitan Grill. Where is El Goucho so that I can add that one.

    By the way, this now makes ‘Burns Steakhouse’ in Tampa the ‘most recommended’ restaurant on the SS (recommended 4 times by: Tampa Steve, Kahuna, Ian S. and Michael W). Both ‘Daniel’ and ‘Grammercy Tavern’,both in NYC, have been recommended 3 times.

  • Jason R…I have a bottle of the ’01 I would share as well if your ever in the area….maybe we could all get together and pop both bottles!

    B

  • Jason R…I have a bottle of the ’01 I would share as well if your ever in the area….maybe we could all get together and pop both bottles!

    B

  • Big Billy from Big D

    More on flavor and fragrance revelations

    Saturday I decided to serve the recently acquired Godella. It would be my second of the two bottles. I was alone in a moment of little before dinner activity when I pulled the cork. I poured 2 ounces or so into my glass, let it sit a moment, then swirled and only smelled it. The up front fragrance was of lemon zest, a little earth, and â??something elseâ?? I couldnâ??t quite name. It was a little like Mr Clean, but not that unnatural. A few minutes later it came to me when I was chopping parsley! Fresh chopped parsley was that herbal in the background. Kind of a clean smell.

    Since becoming more interested in wine I have begun collecting fragrance memories. Leaf mold, garden soil, fresh fruits and herbs, cedar pencils, mothballs, asparagus, and even cat pee. Not the cat pee of an overused cat litter box, but the smell of â??that dad-blasted cat winkied on my ball cap that fell on the floor.â??

    Iâ??ll add my thanks, Julius for the WSET sheet. I have also read of similar work done by Ann C. Noble at UC Davis regarding the semantics of flavor and fragrance. Basically its: FLAVOR + FRAGRANCE = WORDS.

    She compiled a lifetime of research on the subject as it concerned perceptions of wine. You can find out more by Googling â??wine aroma wheelâ?

    Chin chin

  • Big Billy from Big D

    More on flavor and fragrance revelations

    Saturday I decided to serve the recently acquired Godella. It would be my second of the two bottles. I was alone in a moment of little before dinner activity when I pulled the cork. I poured 2 ounces or so into my glass, let it sit a moment, then swirled and only smelled it. The up front fragrance was of lemon zest, a little earth, and â??something elseâ?? I couldnâ??t quite name. It was a little like Mr Clean, but not that unnatural. A few minutes later it came to me when I was chopping parsley! Fresh chopped parsley was that herbal in the background. Kind of a clean smell.

    Since becoming more interested in wine I have begun collecting fragrance memories. Leaf mold, garden soil, fresh fruits and herbs, cedar pencils, mothballs, asparagus, and even cat pee. Not the cat pee of an overused cat litter box, but the smell of â??that dad-blasted cat winkied on my ball cap that fell on the floor.â??

    Iâ??ll add my thanks, Julius for the WSET sheet. I have also read of similar work done by Ann C. Noble at UC Davis regarding the semantics of flavor and fragrance. Basically its: FLAVOR + FRAGRANCE = WORDS.

    She compiled a lifetime of research on the subject as it concerned perceptions of wine. You can find out more by Googling â??wine aroma wheelâ?

    Chin chin

  • Big Billy…did you buy a wine aroma wheel?

  • Big Billy…did you buy a wine aroma wheel?

  • SS Chris

    PANMAN, thanks for the input on AVANTI units (sound advice).

    BRANDON M, It’s one of the tabs in my MASTER SS. I have your email address, so I will send it to you. SS

  • SS Chris

    PANMAN, thanks for the input on AVANTI units (sound advice).

    BRANDON M, It’s one of the tabs in my MASTER SS. I have your email address, so I will send it to you. SS

  • Big Billy from Big D

    No I haven’t bought one. (Wine aroma wheel) But I have read three or four articles on the subject and follow wht’s on the wheel in principle.

  • Big Billy from Big D

    No I haven’t bought one. (Wine aroma wheel) But I have read three or four articles on the subject and follow wht’s on the wheel in principle.

  • TimF

    You don’t have to buy an aroma wheel — there are plenty available on the web that you can just print off…

  • TimF

    You don’t have to buy an aroma wheel — there are plenty available on the web that you can just print off…

  • cool…I’ll look it up. Thanks

  • cool…I’ll look it up. Thanks

  • Big Billy from Big D

    In the interest of furthering wine science I just completed an on-line order to Beringer for their Wine Aroma Wheel(s) , that are based on Ann Noble’s work.

    From their web site:
    The â??Beringer Wine Tasting Wheelsâ? consist of two wheels, one for white wines and one for red wines, which feature terms commonly used to describe the aromas, tastes, flavors and mouthfeel of wine. It also lists descriptors that often are used in connection with certain wine varietals, i.e., pineapple and vanilla for Chardonnay, black pepper and blackberry for Zinfandel, etc.

    For $6 I figured, why noy not be a big spender this afternoon.
    Chin chin

  • Big Billy from Big D

    In the interest of furthering wine science I just completed an on-line order to Beringer for their Wine Aroma Wheel(s) , that are based on Ann Noble’s work.

    From their web site:
    The â??Beringer Wine Tasting Wheelsâ? consist of two wheels, one for white wines and one for red wines, which feature terms commonly used to describe the aromas, tastes, flavors and mouthfeel of wine. It also lists descriptors that often are used in connection with certain wine varietals, i.e., pineapple and vanilla for Chardonnay, black pepper and blackberry for Zinfandel, etc.

    For $6 I figured, why noy not be a big spender this afternoon.
    Chin chin

  • Gary, I was out of town the last two days…so congrats on your Jets (plus that got me a win in my football pool), and sure the Bears won, so I’m happy, but jeez they looked horrible. And against the Cards!! We got a bye-week this week, so maybe that game will slap them into reality, but now I KNOW that they won’t go 16-0. They’re going to probably lose to the Giants and to the Patriots, sorry, but I don’t see them getting slapped around by your Jets. And the last couple weeks of the season, when they’ve clinched home field throughout the playoffs, they’ll take it easy and lose a couple meaningless games. Then the playoffs will come, and since they’ll be TOO rested up, they’ll get smoked in their first playoff game, just like last year. You heard it hear first…from a die-hard Bears fan.

    OK: Yesterday’s show was great. But, I somehow knew you weren’t going to finish today’s show. Oh well, you can try the Chapoutier, Mouton and Le Pin today.
    See you later,
    GO BEARS!!!
    T

  • Gary, I was out of town the last two days…so congrats on your Jets (plus that got me a win in my football pool), and sure the Bears won, so I’m happy, but jeez they looked horrible. And against the Cards!! We got a bye-week this week, so maybe that game will slap them into reality, but now I KNOW that they won’t go 16-0. They’re going to probably lose to the Giants and to the Patriots, sorry, but I don’t see them getting slapped around by your Jets. And the last couple weeks of the season, when they’ve clinched home field throughout the playoffs, they’ll take it easy and lose a couple meaningless games. Then the playoffs will come, and since they’ll be TOO rested up, they’ll get smoked in their first playoff game, just like last year. You heard it hear first…from a die-hard Bears fan.

    OK: Yesterday’s show was great. But, I somehow knew you weren’t going to finish today’s show. Oh well, you can try the Chapoutier, Mouton and Le Pin today.
    See you later,
    GO BEARS!!!
    T

  • Susan

    Tim-
    Thanks for the tip about the wine aroma wheel.
    Very helpful & cool:)

  • Kahuna

    Hi SS Chris,

    El Gaucho(looked up the spelling this time) is also in Seattle. they have also opened one in Portland but I have not been to that one.

    In Houston we ate at The Capital Grille which was awesome also- I understand there are many locations through out the country though

  • Susan

    Tim-
    Thanks for the tip about the wine aroma wheel.
    Very helpful & cool:)

  • Kahuna

    Hi SS Chris,

    El Gaucho(looked up the spelling this time) is also in Seattle. they have also opened one in Portland but I have not been to that one.

    In Houston we ate at The Capital Grille which was awesome also- I understand there are many locations through out the country though

  • Hey Brandon….with the Vaynervote…even if “Wine Librarians” wins the race….you should still put “Vayniacs” on the shirt……I don’t ever seen anyone refer to themselves as “Wine Librarians”

    -Stallion

  • Hey Brandon….with the Vaynervote…even if “Wine Librarians” wins the race….you should still put “Vayniacs” on the shirt……I don’t ever seen anyone refer to themselves as “Wine Librarians”

    -Stallion

  • Jason R.

    Tony / Brandon – Thanks for the offers – I checked with my father and he has 7 in his cellar from 2001. He said that he paid $2 bones more per bottle and then $2.83 each for shipping from CA about a year ago. AGAIN – WL BEST PRICE!!!

    What a dilema I have – He wanted to pop a 1983 Diamond Creek Gravely or a 1984 Mouton at Christmas and now I have to ask for a 2001 Guigal CDP @ Thanksgiving.. LOL I think that I will shoot higher. I know he has some older Guigal Cote Rotie’s stashed away in his cellar so maybe I will win in this scenario….

    BTW – I will be in So. Cal in 2 weeks, but dont know if I will incorporate my rounds up north to all my label customers… I will let you know – If I do – I am in for my usual ribs @ Rutherford Grille across from BV. I will be drinking the house wine as usual BV Rutherford… What a great pairing!!!

  • Jason R.

    Tony / Brandon – Thanks for the offers – I checked with my father and he has 7 in his cellar from 2001. He said that he paid $2 bones more per bottle and then $2.83 each for shipping from CA about a year ago. AGAIN – WL BEST PRICE!!!

    What a dilema I have – He wanted to pop a 1983 Diamond Creek Gravely or a 1984 Mouton at Christmas and now I have to ask for a 2001 Guigal CDP @ Thanksgiving.. LOL I think that I will shoot higher. I know he has some older Guigal Cote Rotie’s stashed away in his cellar so maybe I will win in this scenario….

    BTW – I will be in So. Cal in 2 weeks, but dont know if I will incorporate my rounds up north to all my label customers… I will let you know – If I do – I am in for my usual ribs @ Rutherford Grille across from BV. I will be drinking the house wine as usual BV Rutherford… What a great pairing!!!

  • Susan

    Kahuna,
    The Capital Grille is a chain but a darn good one.
    We have Capital Grille here in Charlotte, NC.

  • we are VAYNIACS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    One big Vaynerfamily

  • Susan

    Kahuna,
    The Capital Grille is a chain but a darn good one.
    We have Capital Grille here in Charlotte, NC.

  • we are VAYNIACS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    One big Vaynerfamily

  • Susan

    Brandon M,
    I agree with the whole charity – wristband idea.
    If part of the $ went to a charity for the wristbands
    that would be great!
    🙂

  • Susan

    Brandon M,
    I agree with the whole charity – wristband idea.
    If part of the $ went to a charity for the wristbands
    that would be great!
    🙂

  • I know everyone on the BLOG seems to like Vaniacs. I’m gonna come up with a couple of great options we can all pick from.

    B

  • I know everyone on the BLOG seems to like Vaniacs. I’m gonna come up with a couple of great options we can all pick from.

    B

  • PattyO

    Brandon – I had to google “schwag” and the urban dictionary tells me – first thing –
    “1. schwag

    adj. Term used to describe low grade marijuana. This type of marijuana is usually brown, seedy, dry. The term is also used by many pot heads to describe anything that is low grade.
    noun. low grade marijuana”

    OK – so I’m thinking that’s probably NOT what the reference on the “Get WLTV Schwag” refers to…
    unless that’s how Gary’s funding his “free shipping” offers…

    But lower down I see:
    “1. schwag 300 up, 44 down

    adj. Term used to describe low grade marijuana. This type of marijuana is usually brown, seedy, dry. The term is also used by many pot heads to describe anything that is low grade.
    noun. low grade marijuana

    adj- Ewww this schwag ass weed tastes horrible and it didnt get me very high.
    noun- I hate smoking schwag, but i cant get any dank right now so i guess i’ll have to.

    by PotHead Apr 28, 2003 email it
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    schwag images
    schwag

    2. schwag

    1. Any free or extra goods, usually given to employees or workers.

    2. Low grade marijuana

    3. A rock & roll band based in St. Louis, Missouri”

    And I’m betting it’s not the St. Louis band either – so – I guess it’s the description #1 under schwag #2…

    And as for the charity –
    I’m thinking a non-profit charity needs to be set up for aid to “recovering WLTV addicts” and the profits from the wrist bands could go there…
    Just kidding.

  • PattyO

    Brandon – I had to google “schwag” and the urban dictionary tells me – first thing –
    “1. schwag

    adj. Term used to describe low grade marijuana. This type of marijuana is usually brown, seedy, dry. The term is also used by many pot heads to describe anything that is low grade.
    noun. low grade marijuana”

    OK – so I’m thinking that’s probably NOT what the reference on the “Get WLTV Schwag” refers to…
    unless that’s how Gary’s funding his “free shipping” offers…

    But lower down I see:
    “1. schwag 300 up, 44 down

    adj. Term used to describe low grade marijuana. This type of marijuana is usually brown, seedy, dry. The term is also used by many pot heads to describe anything that is low grade.
    noun. low grade marijuana

    adj- Ewww this schwag ass weed tastes horrible and it didnt get me very high.
    noun- I hate smoking schwag, but i cant get any dank right now so i guess i’ll have to.

    by PotHead Apr 28, 2003 email it
    permalink: del.icio.us
    Send to a friend
    your email:
    their email:

    schwag images
    schwag

    2. schwag

    1. Any free or extra goods, usually given to employees or workers.

    2. Low grade marijuana

    3. A rock & roll band based in St. Louis, Missouri”

    And I’m betting it’s not the St. Louis band either – so – I guess it’s the description #1 under schwag #2…

    And as for the charity –
    I’m thinking a non-profit charity needs to be set up for aid to “recovering WLTV addicts” and the profits from the wrist bands could go there…
    Just kidding.

  • PattyO

    Sorry – a chunk of that copy on schwagg repeated, which didn’t show in what I submitted

  • PattyO

    Sorry – a chunk of that copy on schwagg repeated, which didn’t show in what I submitted

  • TampaSteve

    Kahuna, isn’t that tour GREAT! Burns has an old world cellar, not flashy, no towers but a damp dusty dim light “basement like” cellar that has bottles lined up from floor to ceiling. I mean you could pull some bottles out and have to wipe the label off to read it. There super high end wines sits in a locked part of the cellar that you are not allowed to enter, and with wines topping the $5000 mark there is little wonder why. They have bottles of wine that date back into the 1800’s. Like mentioned before many wines are available by the glass, even some of the real old stuff. I believe the cellar holds 100,000 bottles with a warehouse close by that makes for half a million bottles of wine total. There are pictures and equipment in the cellar of when Rothschild came to recork some of their oldest wines. I have done both tours over a dozen times as no trip to Burns is complete without. Yes, they have a organic farm here in Tampa that supplies most vegetables. Each waiter at Burns must first work on that farm. They are not considered full waiter status until they have worked in the restaurant for a year. The women who used to stand grilling the steaks for over 20 years just recently retired. This is old world style dining at it’s finest.

    SS Chris, just let me know if you ever come to Tampa, I will never pass up on a Burns event. Can’t wait to see the restaurant list.

  • TampaSteve

    Kahuna, isn’t that tour GREAT! Burns has an old world cellar, not flashy, no towers but a damp dusty dim light “basement like” cellar that has bottles lined up from floor to ceiling. I mean you could pull some bottles out and have to wipe the label off to read it. There super high end wines sits in a locked part of the cellar that you are not allowed to enter, and with wines topping the $5000 mark there is little wonder why. They have bottles of wine that date back into the 1800’s. Like mentioned before many wines are available by the glass, even some of the real old stuff. I believe the cellar holds 100,000 bottles with a warehouse close by that makes for half a million bottles of wine total. There are pictures and equipment in the cellar of when Rothschild came to recork some of their oldest wines. I have done both tours over a dozen times as no trip to Burns is complete without. Yes, they have a organic farm here in Tampa that supplies most vegetables. Each waiter at Burns must first work on that farm. They are not considered full waiter status until they have worked in the restaurant for a year. The women who used to stand grilling the steaks for over 20 years just recently retired. This is old world style dining at it’s finest.

    SS Chris, just let me know if you ever come to Tampa, I will never pass up on a Burns event. Can’t wait to see the restaurant list.

  • Here’s how I view the word Schwag, and I have known quite a few companies that have gone through this:

    The company starts out by making shirts / hats for their employees and special events. The company then becomes so popular and well known that people are willing to pay for the schwag!
    So having a schwag store, to me, means selling the stuff that normally only people on the inside would get!

    B

  • Here’s how I view the word Schwag, and I have known quite a few companies that have gone through this:

    The company starts out by making shirts / hats for their employees and special events. The company then becomes so popular and well known that people are willing to pay for the schwag!
    So having a schwag store, to me, means selling the stuff that normally only people on the inside would get!

    B

  • Kahuna

    TampaSteve – I am getting Hungry now- OH MAN

  • Kahuna

    TampaSteve – I am getting Hungry now- OH MAN

  • Big Billy from Big D

    It took awhile, but I found these Wine Aroma Wheels for free (downloadable). Thanks Tim F

    An Acrobat Version can be found here:
    http://www.retzer-land.co.at/Weingut-Himmelbauer/tips/aroma.pdf

    A jpg file here:
    http://www.retzer-land.co.at/Weingut-Himmelbauer/tips/aroma.jpg

  • Big Billy from Big D

    It took awhile, but I found these Wine Aroma Wheels for free (downloadable). Thanks Tim F

    An Acrobat Version can be found here:
    http://www.retzer-land.co.at/Weingut-Himmelbauer/tips/aroma.pdf

    A jpg file here:
    http://www.retzer-land.co.at/Weingut-Himmelbauer/tips/aroma.jpg

  • Susan

    Vayniacs,
    Keep the comments coming – we are almost at 200!
    Great Stuff!:)

  • Just ordered the presale on the 2005 Valrose…2026 is gonna be awesome…cause that’s when we’re poppin them!

    http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=7511

    My kids are gonna be lovin life with all this damn wine!

    B

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