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	<title>Comments on: Vay-ner-chuks Choice. &#8211; Episode #116</title>
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		<title>By: John J.</title>
		<link>http://tv.winelibrary.com/2006/10/27/van-ner-chuks-choice-episode-116/comment-page-2/#comment-686755</link>
		<dc:creator>John J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 02:22:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>was there a question of the day?
I&#039;ll give you one then Gary. Think we&#039;ll get an episode on vin jaune&#039;s and one on a tasting of the different California charbono&#039;s out there?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>was there a question of the day?<br />
I&#8217;ll give you one then Gary. Think we&#8217;ll get an episode on vin jaune&#8217;s and one on a tasting of the different California charbono&#8217;s out there?</p>
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		<title>By: mudd</title>
		<link>http://tv.winelibrary.com/2006/10/27/van-ner-chuks-choice-episode-116/comment-page-2/#comment-107431</link>
		<dc:creator>mudd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2007 01:01:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cool.  The first episode where Gary uses the &quot;you with a little bit of me....&quot; closing.  I&#039;m really enjoying watching the evolution of WLTV.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool.  The first episode where Gary uses the &#8220;you with a little bit of me&#8230;.&#8221; closing.  I&#8217;m really enjoying watching the evolution of WLTV.</p>
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		<title>By: Kraemer</title>
		<link>http://tv.winelibrary.com/2006/10/27/van-ner-chuks-choice-episode-116/comment-page-2/#comment-82021</link>
		<dc:creator>Kraemer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 23:16:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>heh typo.  The Oroppas we know today was called Sapporo wine back in the day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>heh typo.  The Oroppas we know today was called Sapporo wine back in the day.</p>
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		<title>By: Kraemer</title>
		<link>http://tv.winelibrary.com/2006/10/27/van-ner-chuks-choice-episode-116/comment-page-2/#comment-82020</link>
		<dc:creator>Kraemer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 23:15:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gary,

Bravo on the Oroppas review!  I absolutely could not agree with you more!  I tasted this today at the St.Clement winery for the first time and was absolutely taken back by it.  A splended wine.

The story behind that paticular bottle is somewhat funny.  Back in the day, St.Clement was owned by Sapporo beer, was named sapporo wine, and was considered to be a non-varietal.  When the winery was sold many years ago, a technicality changed the name of it from Sappporo Wine to Oroppas.  You&#039;re a smart guy, look at that word.  It&#039;s Saparro spelled backwards.

After a few more leadership changes, it was decided that Oroppas would evolve into an actual varietal, thus it being what it is today.

Oh, and with regards to St.Clement wines, I highly suggest you try their 1998 Cabernet, and do it while you still can.  I purchased the last three bottles they will ever have from the winery today hehe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gary,</p>
<p>Bravo on the Oroppas review!  I absolutely could not agree with you more!  I tasted this today at the St.Clement winery for the first time and was absolutely taken back by it.  A splended wine.</p>
<p>The story behind that paticular bottle is somewhat funny.  Back in the day, St.Clement was owned by Sapporo beer, was named sapporo wine, and was considered to be a non-varietal.  When the winery was sold many years ago, a technicality changed the name of it from Sappporo Wine to Oroppas.  You&#8217;re a smart guy, look at that word.  It&#8217;s Saparro spelled backwards.</p>
<p>After a few more leadership changes, it was decided that Oroppas would evolve into an actual varietal, thus it being what it is today.</p>
<p>Oh, and with regards to St.Clement wines, I highly suggest you try their 1998 Cabernet, and do it while you still can.  I purchased the last three bottles they will ever have from the winery today hehe.</p>
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		<title>By: dobs</title>
		<link>http://tv.winelibrary.com/2006/10/27/van-ner-chuks-choice-episode-116/comment-page-2/#comment-23509</link>
		<dc:creator>dobs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jan 2007 02:15:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GV &amp; Co

First off, thanks for doing the Oroppas.  I&#039;ve been hoping that somebody would take up the disparity between WS and RP.  

If it matters, I&#039;ll share our experience with the 2001 Oroppas since it explained to me the stark difference between the WS and RP ratings.  A couple years ago, we opened a bottle with friends.  Upon first pour, it was virtually undrinkable and we all agreed that WS&#039;s Laube was dead on with his 78 rating.  Hell, I would have given it a 68.  I ended up pouring two glasses of the stuff on some hated shrubbery, hoping that it would either kill or fertilize them.  We happily moved on other bottles.  However, a couple hours later I noticed that there was still about a glass of the Oroppas left in the bottle and so in a &quot;what the hell&quot; moment, tried it again.  It was terrific.  I shared it with the other winers and they were all amazed by the transformation.  My guess is that decanting of the Oroppas--as you did in the above episode--makes a profound difference in the wine&#039;s taste.  In the end, I agree with GV that the Oroppas is a great value at $35.  Just remember to decant it for a couple hours before drinking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GV &amp; Co</p>
<p>First off, thanks for doing the Oroppas.  I&#8217;ve been hoping that somebody would take up the disparity between WS and RP.  </p>
<p>If it matters, I&#8217;ll share our experience with the 2001 Oroppas since it explained to me the stark difference between the WS and RP ratings.  A couple years ago, we opened a bottle with friends.  Upon first pour, it was virtually undrinkable and we all agreed that WS&#8217;s Laube was dead on with his 78 rating.  Hell, I would have given it a 68.  I ended up pouring two glasses of the stuff on some hated shrubbery, hoping that it would either kill or fertilize them.  We happily moved on other bottles.  However, a couple hours later I noticed that there was still about a glass of the Oroppas left in the bottle and so in a &#8220;what the hell&#8221; moment, tried it again.  It was terrific.  I shared it with the other winers and they were all amazed by the transformation.  My guess is that decanting of the Oroppas&#8211;as you did in the above episode&#8211;makes a profound difference in the wine&#8217;s taste.  In the end, I agree with GV that the Oroppas is a great value at $35.  Just remember to decant it for a couple hours before drinking.</p>
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		<title>By: the professor and....</title>
		<link>http://tv.winelibrary.com/2006/10/27/van-ner-chuks-choice-episode-116/comment-page-2/#comment-11215</link>
		<dc:creator>the professor and....</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Nov 2006 03:38:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Laffy taffy?  you really are out of your mind!!  On a more serious note, I do love your &quot;take the high road&quot; philosophy.  

Gary, pardon my ignorance but you often mention a &quot;fake&quot; artifical taste.  What&#039;s the deal?  Do these wine makers add something (a chemical or something) to the wine to try and enhance flavors?

Oh yeah, love the ending, you sick bastard. But hell it&#039;s good to be back!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Laffy taffy?  you really are out of your mind!!  On a more serious note, I do love your &#8220;take the high road&#8221; philosophy.  </p>
<p>Gary, pardon my ignorance but you often mention a &#8220;fake&#8221; artifical taste.  What&#8217;s the deal?  Do these wine makers add something (a chemical or something) to the wine to try and enhance flavors?</p>
<p>Oh yeah, love the ending, you sick bastard. But hell it&#8217;s good to be back!</p>
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		<title>By: Bear Down</title>
		<link>http://tv.winelibrary.com/2006/10/27/van-ner-chuks-choice-episode-116/comment-page-2/#comment-10410</link>
		<dc:creator>Bear Down</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Oct 2006 19:13:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice work on the Team America World Police song!</description>
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		<title>By: Tony S.</title>
		<link>http://tv.winelibrary.com/2006/10/27/van-ner-chuks-choice-episode-116/comment-page-2/#comment-10405</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Oct 2006 18:45:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.  That song at the end was really...umm...great.  I&#039;ve been curious about those Orappas, have you had other vintages, and if so, do they usually rub you the right way all the time?  And you know what Gary...I like how you slipped in the &quot;Bears are still overated&quot; comment really quickly.  And that&#039;s fine...it&#039;s your show.  You&#039;ve got a great perspective on wine and I respect you greatly, which is why I watch every day.  But man-o-man...dude, c&#039;mon!  Sure, da Bears are killing most teams, and then if they&#039;re not completely destroying them, they&#039;re just beating them, but can&#039;t you give them just a little respect??  

That&#039;s my request for you: Please, just a teensy-bit of love for the Bears.  C&#039;mon.  They won&#039;t go 16-0, I know, but they&#039;re not going to lose more than 3 (if even that).  At least they beat the Browns in the pre-season.  How&#039;d your Jets do anyway against the Browns?  Oh...ya, that&#039;s right, they lost 20-13.  

Take care man!  See you later,
Go BEARS!!
T</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.  That song at the end was really&#8230;umm&#8230;great.  I&#8217;ve been curious about those Orappas, have you had other vintages, and if so, do they usually rub you the right way all the time?  And you know what Gary&#8230;I like how you slipped in the &#8220;Bears are still overated&#8221; comment really quickly.  And that&#8217;s fine&#8230;it&#8217;s your show.  You&#8217;ve got a great perspective on wine and I respect you greatly, which is why I watch every day.  But man-o-man&#8230;dude, c&#8217;mon!  Sure, da Bears are killing most teams, and then if they&#8217;re not completely destroying them, they&#8217;re just beating them, but can&#8217;t you give them just a little respect??  </p>
<p>That&#8217;s my request for you: Please, just a teensy-bit of love for the Bears.  C&#8217;mon.  They won&#8217;t go 16-0, I know, but they&#8217;re not going to lose more than 3 (if even that).  At least they beat the Browns in the pre-season.  How&#8217;d your Jets do anyway against the Browns?  Oh&#8230;ya, that&#8217;s right, they lost 20-13.  </p>
<p>Take care man!  See you later,<br />
Go BEARS!!<br />
T</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Ross</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Ross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Oct 2006 15:56:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ordered myself a couple of the Oroppas this AM, glad it was still available, after you gave it the nod. BTW, would a &quot;What Are We Buying&quot; thread be appropriate on WLTV Forum? It was a popular feature on another wine bulletin board I frequented before this cranked up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ordered myself a couple of the Oroppas this AM, glad it was still available, after you gave it the nod. BTW, would a &#8220;What Are We Buying&#8221; thread be appropriate on WLTV Forum? It was a popular feature on another wine bulletin board I frequented before this cranked up.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Zen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Zen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Oct 2006 15:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Miracle Season is in Chi-town baby!!!!  After four interceptions and six turnovers last week, the first half against SF was sweet vindication.  So we do have an offense to put points on the board.  And more importrantly, we&#039;re still UNDEFEATED as we approach the turn to the NY/NJ area.  Bear down, Chicago Bears...!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Miracle Season is in Chi-town baby!!!!  After four interceptions and six turnovers last week, the first half against SF was sweet vindication.  So we do have an offense to put points on the board.  And more importrantly, we&#8217;re still UNDEFEATED as we approach the turn to the NY/NJ area.  Bear down, Chicago Bears&#8230;!!!</p>
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