Second Wines/Labels of Bordeaux and Other Wines.-Episode #140.

December 5, 2006

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This is a much anticipated episode where Gary Vaynerchuk tastes through the second labels of major wineries to see how their second wines stack up. Gary tastes through wines from California, Italy and of course Bordeaux where much is made of second label wines.

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  1. December 6, 2006

    The British Doctor

    QOTD: I think Clos du Marquis (though not strictly a 2nd wine) is always great value, I also had a 1996 Reserve de la Comtesse – excellent stuff!!

    I think someone said La Mission Haut Brion – my undertanding is that this is a seperate chateau, not a 2nd wine of Haut Brion
    just to make it confusing you have

    Château Haut-Brion
    Château Larrivet-Haut-Brion
    Château Laville-Haut-Brion
    Château La Mission Haut-Brion
    Château La Tour Haut-Brion

  2. December 6, 2006

    Miguelo DiMarco

    $!$!$!$!$!$!$!$1000 bucks for a bottle of wine? That’s about $40 an ounce. I hope you didn’t rinse any glasses with that stuff.

    Some favorite restaurants in NYC:

    The ~”Cuba”~ restaurant in the Village on Thompson for traditional Cuban food and live music
    http://www.cubanyc.com/cuba/media/cubarestaurant.html

    AND

    ~”44 Southwest”~ for Italian located on 9th/44th – SouthWest corner
    http://www.menupages.com/restaurantdetails.asp?neighborhoodid=0&restaurantid=3661
    (a menu is accessible from this page)

  3. December 6, 2006

    Don S.

    QOTD – I’m with KUHUNA – Hawks Crest is my favorite second label.

  4. December 6, 2006

    gordoyflaca

    Boston: The Butcher Shop
    Phoenix: Pizza Bianco
    DC: Cafe Atlantico

  5. December 6, 2006

    canadian-kid

    top 100? all set U BET!!

    Another gooder gary..keep it up…

    side question: Le Crocodile is by far my favorite resturant in Vancouver, BC, Canada ( http://www.lecrocodilerestaurant.com/ ).

    QOTD: Just getting into wine so havnt experienced any second wines.

  6. December 6, 2006

    Matt from Barossa

    QOD Langmeil Valley Floor Shiraz as a second wine to the Langmeil Freedom Shiraz… Then how about the Earthworks 2004 Shiraz also from Langmeil as a third wine to the second…

    Is there anything else I need to add?

  7. December 5, 2006

    Susan

    Gary-
    Another fabulous episode!
    Did not know anything about seconds until this episode.
    I am getting such a good education.
    Great stuff!
    QOD:
    Restaurants-
    I have 3 favs:
    American Fare:
    City Tavern – no one has better american food and wine for the money. Entrees start at about $9.00.
    Great atmosphere.
    Italian Fare:
    Mama Ricotta’s –
    NO ONE has better italian, it is freshly made every day and large portions and still entrees start at about $9.00.
    they have fabulous atmosphere and a bar at the door so you can get a drink while you stand in line. I LOVE the all you can eat garlic rolls and their Chicken Carciofa is to die for! Their tiramisu is SOOOOOOO big!
    Mexican Fare:
    Salsaritas:
    No one has more fresh food for less money. There is real and fabulous cheese in their nachos. Salads with bowls you can eat.
    Fabulous burritos, tacos and enchiladas and everyone in charlotte gets their chips and salsa to go.
    You can get alot of food for $8.00 (large burrito and a drink). Casual dining atmosphere.
    :)

  8. December 5, 2006

    E-Rock

    Great show Gary!

  9. December 5, 2006

    Jaye

    Gary, this was really a terrific episode — I am sure a lot of your viewers learned something completely new today. Kudos! I also love your little digs with that number. I’m guessing it’s the day you will finally put Tony out of his misery and do the much anticipated heat episode. :)

    As for my favorite second, I committed infanticide when I opened it, and it really was awful the first day, but a few days later the flavors were quite good showing a great deal of promise for when I try my next bottle in about 3 years . . . 2000 Clos du Marquis.

  10. December 5, 2006

    John

    Les Fortes de Latour, the #1 #2

  11. December 5, 2006

    Tony S

    Gary,

    Give LaTour in Ridgewood, NJ a try (http://www.latourridgewood.com/)!

    You say “Ornellaia Le Serre Nuove 2004 for $20.00″ (not the $37.99 listed on the Wine Library web site)? I say I’ll order a case or two today!

    QOD: 2003 Chateau Lascombes.

  12. December 5, 2006

    Dominus

    Comparisons of 1st and 2nd growths to Peyton and Eli? Classic! I couldn’t have said it better.

    QOD: Is Reignac considered a 2nd growth? if it is, I love it, otherwise, I’ve had nothing memorable.

    Also, the name of a restaurant I have found to be compelling or special? In our area of the world, (DC/MD/VA) The Inn at Little Washington reigns supreme with Le Auberge Chez Francois. Both wonderful restaurants though for the wine geek, Charlie Palmer’s Steahouse, a stone’s throw away from the US Capitol is the place to go. You have the opportunity to order wine via a PC tablet. Now how cool is that!

    Dom

  13. December 5, 2006

    Paul

    Thinking further, I do have a bait of Carruades de Lafite in the basement – 1989 and 2000, I think. It’s a good 2nd, too.

  14. December 5, 2006

    Paul

    I agree with BrandonM – Les Forts de Latour. It has been MANY years since I had it, though. Bought half a case of ‘66. It’s long gone.

  15. December 5, 2006

    Wildebeest

    Dammit Gary,

    What’s the deal w/ August 19th, 2007? I assume that’s the date we’re headed towards. In 1692, five women were killed on that day in the as a result of the Salem Witch Trials, but I doubt that’s what you’re thinking of. Are you just trying to recruit help in the task of remembering your anniversary (wedding) or something? …By the way, how’d your chili turn out?

  16. December 5, 2006

    Wine-o

    Top ten???? Maybe tomorrow…
    QOTD #1 English is Italian,Great Spot and very urbane.
    Da Silvano, best restaurant in NYC hands down…
    QOTD #2 Tin Pony anyone…

  17. December 5, 2006

    Eyeguy

    Great episode! I’m sure I’ve had seconds and probably thirds, but not sophisticated enough to know for sure!

    Rich

  18. December 5, 2006

    chogan

    ‘05 Bordeaux 2nd label might be good to do considering the insane prices.

    Petit Cheval is one of particular interest to me.

  19. December 5, 2006

    Rick McQ

    Gary:

    Great show! I’ve had a few seconds but none worth remenbering.

  20. December 5, 2006

    hugh

    THANKS, THOUGHT SO!!

  21. December 5, 2006

    garyv

    2000 Chat Roseraie De Gruaud Larose is the third wine the Sargent de la Gruaurd Larose is the 2nd,sorry for the mix up, just had my head in too many places

  22. December 5, 2006

    joe

    Gary I have purchased Sargent de la Gruaurd Larose as its second wine. what happened to it?

    Really good idea for an episode. I too have been so dissapointed by second wines in the past – my favorite being Palmers Alter Ego 1995. Unless you consider the Penflods Bin 389 a seond of Bin 707 and Grange.

    I love Ornellaia. Great to see it’s ‘04 second doing so well. Can you imagine how Great the REAL 2004 Ornellaia is ?? I will have to get a case of that. I have had the ‘03 Ornellaia twice now – very very different than in years past – - a super extracted Black Fruit/Licorice bomb. Have you tasted it?

    Joe

  23. December 5, 2006

    ER

    Sarget is the second wine of Gruaud Larose – wonder if this is a new release of some sort. The Sarget is a one of my favorite second labels — always affordable. I’d like to see Gary taste a bottle of that.

  24. December 5, 2006

    Tom T.

    Gary,

    Awesome episode. This is why WLTV is so good and that is to learn something about wines. I never knew about second wines until 5 minutes ago. I’ll be trying the Ornellaia real soon.

    Hey take it easy on Eli. He’s young and needs time to grow. Was Peyton any good in his second year?

  25. December 5, 2006

    gabe

    BIRBA!

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