EP 163 Turley Zinfandel Tasting and Reviews

Wines tasted in this episode:

    Turley Dogtown Zinfandel ’04 (Not Available)
    Turley Pesenti Zinfandel ’04 (Not Available)
    Turley Moore-earthquake Zin ’00 (Not Available)
    Turley Moore-earthquake Zin ’01 (Not Available)

    Links mentioned in todays episode.

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Turley wines have been some of the hottest over the last 5-10 years and with Owner Larry Turley and winemaker Ehren Jordan is in good hands. Gary Vaynerchuk will taste a few new wines and a few older vintages to see how they are acting!

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Sapoferoz

This weekend we tasted a horizontal flight of the 2004 Pesenti Zins. 6 bottles from the various blocks within the Pesenti vinyard. Your evaluation was consistent with what we found – all were about 16% and jammy – the standout was the Bastard Block.

Tags: red wines, Turley, Video, wine, wines, zinfandel

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  • Bear Down

    What’s up Dale Hawerchuk (ex-Winnepeg Jet)

    I really enjoy Turleys as a whole. Although, I have been disappointed a couple of times. The 2001 Juvenile was nothing to write home about. Even at $35. I too was able to score some 2002 Old Vines Zin (with Tony S). Not bad. The best I’ve ever had it the 1999 P/S, Hayne.

    Unfortuately I find that it is worth it to drink the more expensive ones. However, the Old Vines is usually a good deal. Don’t bother with Juvenile (young vines).

    I treat Turley like Port (I don’t pair it with desert or cigars though). I drink it on it’s own (the best way) or maybe after a meal when I want to keep the party going.

    QOTD: No advise on Tartar.

  • Winosaurus

    Thank you for the Turley episode, Gary.

    I most appreciate winemakers like Larry Turley, who took the time to make a relatively minute amount of wine from 80-year old Mexican zinfandel vines in 2004, and a single barrel of zinfandel rosé in 2005.

    Cheers from the reclusive Winosaurus!

  • Winosaurus

    Thank you for the Turley episode, Gary.

    I most appreciate winemakers like Larry Turley, who took the time to make a relatively minute amount of wine from 80-year old Mexican zinfandel vines in 2004, and a single barrel of zinfandel rosé in 2005.

    Cheers from the reclusive Winosaurus!

  • Wil H

    Great Episode GV.

    I’m always fascinated by the effects that time and geography can have on wine. “I like to think about the people who picked the grapes, and how many of them must be dead by now.” Please, keep up the vertical tasting comparisons, when possible. I will keep my eye out for the Turley ’01.

    I agree with “upstater” (Comment #26) New Zealand Savignon Blancs go nicely with Tuna and Salmon. My favorite affordable one is Brancott… grassy, with a little lemon on the finish. Never tried steak tartare, but I eat a lot of sushi and drink a lot of wine, but rarely together. Sushi and Beer is a match made in Buddha’s belly! I have had all the big Japanese beers and without question, Kirin Ichiban is the best. It’s better than Saporro and demolishes Asahi (Japanese Coors Light – which has a watery nose and a hint of aluminum can). Try all three blind, and Kirin will win.

    I’m going to vote now, I hope I don’t dangle any chads.

    Have fun out here in Cali; a little rain tonight and tomorrow a.m., but a nice weekend coming up.

    go Bolts.

  • Wil H

    Great Episode GV.

    I’m always fascinated by the effects that time and geography can have on wine. “I like to think about the people who picked the grapes, and how many of them must be dead by now.” Please, keep up the vertical tasting comparisons, when possible. I will keep my eye out for the Turley ’01.

    I agree with “upstater” (Comment #26) New Zealand Savignon Blancs go nicely with Tuna and Salmon. My favorite affordable one is Brancott… grassy, with a little lemon on the finish. Never tried steak tartare, but I eat a lot of sushi and drink a lot of wine, but rarely together. Sushi and Beer is a match made in Buddha’s belly! I have had all the big Japanese beers and without question, Kirin Ichiban is the best. It’s better than Saporro and demolishes Asahi (Japanese Coors Light – which has a watery nose and a hint of aluminum can). Try all three blind, and Kirin will win.

    I’m going to vote now, I hope I don’t dangle any chads.

    Have fun out here in Cali; a little rain tonight and tomorrow a.m., but a nice weekend coming up.

    go Bolts.

  • Michael P

    can you believe the nerve on turley?? these guys have a waiting list for their mailing list…..you gots to be sheeeeeeting me

  • Michael P

    can you believe the nerve on turley?? these guys have a waiting list for their mailing list…..you gots to be sheeeeeeting me

  • http://tv.winelibrary.com/ Mitch

    Tuna tartar usually has some wine killing vinegar other ingredient. Tend to go with Champagne.

    I’ll drink everything from Sauvignon Blanc to Cab with Salmon Tartar.

    Steak tartar is always paired with a sophisticated Cal Cal or meritage (no fruit bombs) or a nice Bordeaux – but with a wine with some age to it.

    By the way, you should consider investing in a Blackberry so that you can get your e-mails while traveling. Your life will be 100% better because you won’t waste an entire day pouring through stale e-mails on your return from travel.

  • http://tv.winelibrary.com Mitch

    Tuna tartar usually has some wine killing vinegar other ingredient. Tend to go with Champagne.

    I’ll drink everything from Sauvignon Blanc to Cab with Salmon Tartar.

    Steak tartar is always paired with a sophisticated Cal Cal or meritage (no fruit bombs) or a nice Bordeaux – but with a wine with some age to it.

    By the way, you should consider investing in a Blackberry so that you can get your e-mails while traveling. Your life will be 100% better because you won’t waste an entire day pouring through stale e-mails on your return from travel.

  • http://vinnylistek.com/ Jtk

    Gary, great episode. Nice to see you back to your usual form. QOTD: Not a big fan of any kind tartar, so I’m going to have to PAAZZZZ. Keep up the great work ~~~

  • http://vinnylistek.com Jtk

    Gary, great episode. Nice to see you back to your usual form. QOTD: Not a big fan of any kind tartar, so I’m going to have to PAAZZZZ. Keep up the great work ~~~

  • cpd

    I have faithfully casted my votes on fermentation: the daily wine blog. :)

  • cpd

    I have faithfully casted my votes on fermentation: the daily wine blog. :)

  • Tim Tamblin

    Gary- As long as you’re on the Turley kick, maybe you could share another of California’s finest winemakers i.e., Mary Edwards- think Pinot Noir. These wines are in the same league and it may be a fun & enlightening episode.

    Also Gary, How much wine could a Vaynerchuk chuk???

  • Tim Tamblin

    Gary- As long as you’re on the Turley kick, maybe you could share another of California’s finest winemakers i.e., Mary Edwards- think Pinot Noir. These wines are in the same league and it may be a fun & enlightening episode.

    Also Gary, How much wine could a Vaynerchuk chuk???

  • http://drvino.blogspot.com/ Dr. Vino

    Better drink ’em while they’re young! Mine didn’t even make it a decade…

    http://drvino.blogspot.com/2007/01/high-alcohol-wines-are-they-built-to.html

  • http://drvino.blogspot.com Dr. Vino

    Better drink ’em while they’re young! Mine didn’t even make it a decade…

    http://drvino.blogspot.com/2007/01/high-alcohol-wines-are-they-built-to.html

  • Peter R

    Turley has been a life changing experience for me. The ’97 Grist Zin was one of the sexiest, most aromatic, unctuous and multi-dimensional wines ever. Though the wines vary from vineyard to vineyard and year to year, no one else makes zin and PS of this size and structure with the finesse and beauty that Larry nd Ehren do. Anyone can do high alcohol fruit bombs or old school briary zins, but Turly can do zin that mimics Bordeaux, the Rhone, Napa Cabs and even Super Tuscans. Each bottle is an exploration. Sit on them for at least a year after release to get rid of bottle shock and let it knit back together. The waiting list is worth the wait. Other zins are can be very pleasurable, speaking as a longtime Ridge Gyserville fanatic, but Turley has figured out how to make zin epic. Check out Failla wines to see another side of Ehren Jordan’s winemaking. Failla has richness and elegance down pat.

  • Peter R

    Turley has been a life changing experience for me. The ’97 Grist Zin was one of the sexiest, most aromatic, unctuous and multi-dimensional wines ever. Though the wines vary from vineyard to vineyard and year to year, no one else makes zin and PS of this size and structure with the finesse and beauty that Larry nd Ehren do. Anyone can do high alcohol fruit bombs or old school briary zins, but Turly can do zin that mimics Bordeaux, the Rhone, Napa Cabs and even Super Tuscans. Each bottle is an exploration. Sit on them for at least a year after release to get rid of bottle shock and let it knit back together. The waiting list is worth the wait. Other zins are can be very pleasurable, speaking as a longtime Ridge Gyserville fanatic, but Turley has figured out how to make zin epic. Check out Failla wines to see another side of Ehren Jordan’s winemaking. Failla has richness and elegance down pat.

  • Winosaurus

    Peter R, I’ve had two bottles of the 1997 Turley Grist Zinfandel, and they had the most phenomenal nose ever. I enjoyed my first bottle at a restaurant, and even though I was seated on the far side of a circular table for six, I could smell the fruit when the waiter pulled the cork. It was unreal…

  • Winosaurus

    Peter R, I’ve had two bottles of the 1997 Turley Grist Zinfandel, and they had the most phenomenal nose ever. I enjoyed my first bottle at a restaurant, and even though I was seated on the far side of a circular table for six, I could smell the fruit when the waiter pulled the cork. It was unreal…

  • Vinacull

    Hey “-CHUCK”,
    CK says PHEE-NOMINAL (but not fee-nominal) show! Loved the comparison of newer and older Turleys. My friend and I drank an 2001 Duarte at the Oceanaire Room in D.C. about three years ago,and absolutely loved it. Parker described it as having characteristics of an Amarone, which made it one of the most distinctive, memorable Zinns I’ve ever had. I have three Turleys tucked away in the cellar, one of which is the ’04 Pesenti — very glad to see a favorable review from you on this. Also, I totally agree with Jaye (#57) and Joe’s (#84) comments. I’m not a person who plunks down big (50 to 100) very often because I can’t afford the wallet shock, but on the other hand the only way to expand the palate and experience some truly extraordinary things in the wine world is to save up for a bit and then splurge. QOTD: LOVE Tuna Tartare (Oregon Pinot Noir, or in a different pairing direction something like a Kim Crawford Sauv Blanc) and Salmon Tartare (Cold Sake, or Brut or Extra Dry champaigne depending on how the mix is constructed)

  • Vinacull

    Hey “-CHUCK”,
    CK says PHEE-NOMINAL (but not fee-nominal) show! Loved the comparison of newer and older Turleys. My friend and I drank an 2001 Duarte at the Oceanaire Room in D.C. about three years ago,and absolutely loved it. Parker described it as having characteristics of an Amarone, which made it one of the most distinctive, memorable Zinns I’ve ever had. I have three Turleys tucked away in the cellar, one of which is the ’04 Pesenti — very glad to see a favorable review from you on this. Also, I totally agree with Jaye (#57) and Joe’s (#84) comments. I’m not a person who plunks down big (50 to 100) very often because I can’t afford the wallet shock, but on the other hand the only way to expand the palate and experience some truly extraordinary things in the wine world is to save up for a bit and then splurge. QOTD: LOVE Tuna Tartare (Oregon Pinot Noir, or in a different pairing direction something like a Kim Crawford Sauv Blanc) and Salmon Tartare (Cold Sake, or Brut or Extra Dry champaigne depending on how the mix is constructed)

  • JimZak

    QOTD Tuna tartare or tuna sushi = Champagne or White Burgundy (Montrachet)

  • JimZak

    QOTD Tuna tartare or tuna sushi = Champagne or White Burgundy (Montrachet)

  • Bossman

    Never paired wine with tube steaks, BUT if you want to try something fabulous, take a grilled, preferably all-beef, preferably Hebrew National, dirty water dog, lay it on a toasted bun and pile on only cole slaw from your favorite deli. Yummmmm, you’ll never have them any other way.

  • Bossman

    Never paired wine with tube steaks, BUT if you want to try something fabulous, take a grilled, preferably all-beef, preferably Hebrew National, dirty water dog, lay it on a toasted bun and pile on only cole slaw from your favorite deli. Yummmmm, you’ll never have them any other way.

  • http://www.whatwouldmikeydrink.com/ Mikey

    Excellent show, thank you. I have been on the Turley mailing list for a few years. I was also blown away by the ’01 Moore Earthquake. I got 6 when it came out, but they didn’t last me 2 months. They were so amazing young, that every time I wanted something incredible, I opened one. It is good to hear that it has aged well. I just drank an 04 Ueberroth this evening (see my site for tasting notes). Bottom line is it was fantastic, and I can not wait until my ’05 Ueberroth arrives. I have also had big disappointments with Turley wines. I drank an ’02 Petite Syrah Library Vineyard in Feb that was terrible. I rated it a C-. Really fell apart on the finish.

    Overall, I have had many more good experiences than bad, and I continue to order from their mailing list.

  • http://www.whatwouldmikeydrink.com Mikey

    Excellent show, thank you. I have been on the Turley mailing list for a few years. I was also blown away by the ’01 Moore Earthquake. I got 6 when it came out, but they didn’t last me 2 months. They were so amazing young, that every time I wanted something incredible, I opened one. It is good to hear that it has aged well. I just drank an 04 Ueberroth this evening (see my site for tasting notes). Bottom line is it was fantastic, and I can not wait until my ’05 Ueberroth arrives. I have also had big disappointments with Turley wines. I drank an ’02 Petite Syrah Library Vineyard in Feb that was terrible. I rated it a C-. Really fell apart on the finish.

    Overall, I have had many more good experiences than bad, and I continue to order from their mailing list.

  • bill wrollcia

    gv,great show, cant get my hands on any, kinda new to the wine scence, but long time lover of the food restaurant scence. if you like tartares, u gotta rock the lamb tartare. bangin… and break out a chinon playa…
    Thats how I Roll
    bill roll

  • bill wrollcia

    gv,great show, cant get my hands on any, kinda new to the wine scence, but long time lover of the food restaurant scence. if you like tartares, u gotta rock the lamb tartare. bangin… and break out a chinon playa…
    Thats how I Roll
    bill roll

  • QUE

    Never had any but have read a bit about Helen, she sounds crazy! I would love to try some of these fruit bombs but really, for $25, i think i can get some AUS wine that will fit the bill(anything from R wines).

    I forget the wine but if you ever have a chance to try ostrich tartare do it. I had one in San Fran and it almost blew my eyes out! Amazing!

    I love catching up and watching these old episodes!

  • QUE

    Never had any but have read a bit about Helen, she sounds crazy! I would love to try some of these fruit bombs but really, for $25, i think i can get some AUS wine that will fit the bill(anything from R wines).

    I forget the wine but if you ever have a chance to try ostrich tartare do it. I had one in San Fran and it almost blew my eyes out! Amazing!

    I love catching up and watching these old episodes!

  • Vince Bonafede

    I go to Cal Poly San Luis Obispo which is about a half an hour from Turley vineyards. First off im super pumped to see you guys do a Turley tasting because its been one of my favorites in the Paso Robles region since i could legally taste wine (wink). I have to agree with a lot of what you were saying, but im even more stoked on the newly released 2006 Presenti, its so gnarly!! It has that crazy alcohol content that Turley is known for but the fruit just mellows it right out and the flavors just glide right over your mouth. I have to say i totally agree with the pairing of the food. I popped open the 06 about a month ago and attempted (key word there) to have it with some Italian food and it straight up had its way with me. But i loved every second of it!! I would love to see an 06 Turley tastings, their some premium nectar!

    Lovin It,

    Vince Bonafede

  • Vince Bonafede

    I go to Cal Poly San Luis Obispo which is about a half an hour from Turley vineyards. First off im super pumped to see you guys do a Turley tasting because its been one of my favorites in the Paso Robles region since i could legally taste wine (wink). I have to agree with a lot of what you were saying, but im even more stoked on the newly released 2006 Presenti, its so gnarly!! It has that crazy alcohol content that Turley is known for but the fruit just mellows it right out and the flavors just glide right over your mouth. I have to say i totally agree with the pairing of the food. I popped open the 06 about a month ago and attempted (key word there) to have it with some Italian food and it straight up had its way with me. But i loved every second of it!! I would love to see an 06 Turley tastings, their some premium nectar!

    Lovin It,

    Vince Bonafede

  • John__J

    qotd: tartare always gives me an excuse to drink sparklings. sparkling rose w steak. blanc for the fish

    would love to see a vin jaune episode Gary

  • John J.

    qotd: tartare always gives me an excuse to drink sparklings. sparkling rose w steak. blanc for the fish

    would love to see a vin jaune episode Gary

  • corkscrew

    Love Zin, love Turley..most of the time (have had the earthquake and think it was the 01), was at the vineyard a few years back. Funky glass he using.. QOTD-not a tartar fan, can't help you. ww.winelx.com

  • Sapoferoz

    This weekend we tasted a horizontal flight of the 2004 Pesenti Zins. 6 bottles from the various blocks within the Pesenti vinyard. Your evaluation was consistent with what we found – all were about 16% and jammy – the standout was the Bastard Block.

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