Biodynamic Wines – Episode #168

January 17, 2007

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Biodynamic wines whats the scoop? and how do these four taste? These are all questions Gary Vaynerchuk will answer on todays Wine Library TV episode.

  • John J.
    qotd; not sure, 1st 1 i saw in the theater was terminator 2, i was 11.

    Wow Gary, you're a great guy and everything but holy shit i cant believe some guy paid over $2500 for a simpson's cup you wrote on, my god. when I think of the amount of wines or what kind of wines I could have bought with that kinda dough, or even the bills you could pay, its almost hard to believe. with that said, obviously that guy is looking for people to just give free money to, so buddy feel free to post a comment of how to get in contact w you so you can just throw a couple thousand my way.

    Gary, how about giving us a vin jaune episode?
  • flavasauce
    Mark Block, I understand your skeptisism and think it's healthy. However just because modern science doesn't give it's seal of approval do you really think that is enough to dismiss something? "Modern science"
    is a very young thing and is not infallable. The Tibetans have had words for the parts of atoms for at least a thousand years (probobly longer )and understood that matter is not a fixed "thing" but actually just movement, energy. Quantum physics has only recently figured this out. There are new ideas in science that would seem to support the ideas behind biodynamics mainly that everthing in the environment is interconnected so yes the seasons, moon cycle and even the animals in the vineyard have an effect on neverything else. It's good not to beleive everything you hear but it is als oimportant to keep an open mind, non?
  • Miguelo DiMarco
    I think the first R-rated movie I saw was "Porky's", unless "Jaws" (the original) was an "R" movie.
  • Late comment ... too much work :-( . Anyway, nice episode: good idea to talk about that. Still, I don't know what to think of all this biodynamic talk. So difficult to find some good information about it. Is it really that 'homeopatic', what's the ecological reasoning behind it and what's the link with commercial discourse? I dunno, ... it really seems a bit awkward to me, all that jibberjabber about mooncycles, climate karma and all that. Reminds me in of the similar paths of the Monodvino-winemakers, wineconsultants, ... ; so, is it really true that those wines HAVE more TERROIR? Not in my experience (yet that's a very limited one).
    QOTD: what R-movie, never known anything about R's, or S's, or T's, ... Just watched everything, nothing so exciting about that ... What about your first R-wine? :-D
  • DJA
    Another great show. Keep them coming!
  • Dominus
    QOD: First R rating has to be The Exorcist and I'm an old guy!

    Going to buy some Humbrecht tomorrow.

    Go Colts! Beat pretty boy Brady.

    Dom
  • Went to Quntessa to see their biodynamic farming methods and was very impressed. The wines were equally impressive, some of the better cabs I have tasted but somewhat high priced with limited availability. That said I bought a case from 3 vintages at the winery and am going back there in February to see how they have done over the winter. Are there any other biodynamic viinyards in the US that one can tour or do tastings?
  • Mark Block
    Pardon me for getting passionate here. The theory behind Biodynamics -- like Homeopathy -- is utter hogwash. I get mad when I hear this crap. It's anti-science, anti-reason nonsense invented by a delusional Aryan mystic. I don't understand why intelligent people don't get offended by it. I'm offended.

    http://waldorfcritics.org/active/articles/NJP_R...

    http://www.skepticreport.com/newage/steiner.htm

    Beyond being merely offended, I feel it's dangerous to promote Biodynamics. It's NOT OK to treat irrational beliefs as just one more thing worthy of intelligent debate. This country and our kids need more and better science education; Biodynamics, Homeopathy, Astrology, New-Age Mysticism and Creationism teach the absolute worst lessons.

    That's not to say the the wines can't be good. Hey, the vines get a lot of TLC. But promoting the nonsense behind it is very uncool.

    QOTD. "Bonnie & Clyde" was probably my first R rated movie. As a college student I saw "Last Tango" with my parents. Scarred me for life.
  • GeneV
    Olivier Humbrecht is a major force in wine. Love the Zinds--could be my favorite producer. Good job spreading the word.
  • yowens44
    Stong Show. Appreciate your honesty and dogging some of the wines sold at winelibrary that you don't appreciate. 1st R rated movie was one of the Police Academies with good old Bobcat.
  • Randy B
    Okay, here goes. Circa 1960 and I'm with the gang-of-four, Phillip, his younger brother Sammy, Tommy and me. We have just watched some cartoon movie at the Roxie Theater, a one screen theater house in NorCal. Since we had plenty of candy left that we had bought next door at Sears, we decided to stay for the next show. a show that all of the town was abuzz about. This risque movie was called Summer Place. So we sneak up into the Lodges and hide until the movie starts. A Summer Place starring Sandra Dee and who cared about the other actors. Did they really stay out all night together? Wow!

    Ciao,

    Randy
  • Jtk
    Gary, good episode today. Damn, I'm going out of town tonight. I'll try to catch the live episode if i can though. QOTD: H.O.T.S. Cheers & Keep up the excellent work ~~~ Kaspar
  • Lb in KS
    Vanishing point, 1971. Thanks for scaring the hell out me, G. Never really thought about it before....to think I'm 8 maybe 9 years old watching my first R rated movie. Oh the perks of knowing the theatre owners in a small town. I had to lmao @ Comment 25: By John Blue Label.. holy crap, forgot all about that one.
  • Jay
    Fast Times at Ridgmont High.
    I was 12 and my Brother and his friends were 16. He had to ask someone to buy tickets for us at the theater.
  • Tim Tamblin
    If memory serves me well, Rosemary's Baby. Man, the rest of you guys are a bunch of curtain climbers...
  • Wil H
    Jaws, 1975. It might have been a PG, but I was only 8 at the time. I had to beg my parents to let me see it. I still have Shark nightmares... 30 years later.

    Informative episode Gary.
    Thanks.
    Looking forward to tomorrow.
  • WOW ....1974 .... Death Wish....That was disturbing at 14 years old...WHEW!!! Should have been X-Rated for those times.
  • Joe Po
    QOD: Midnight Cowboy with Dustin Hoffman and Jon Voigt
    Good luck on the LiveWLTV. Will try to tune in.
  • Matthew L
    Interesting show Gary. I used to lobby for the biotechnology industry and learned a LOT about biodynamic and organic farming. I, too, like the idea of wineries attempting to be green.

    QOTD: If memory serves, I saw my first R-rated in 1978 at the ripe age of 12. It was Blue Collar with Richard Pryor.
  • boyd
    QOTD: Rain Man

    K-Mart sucks!
  • aktormedic
    Nice episode. There are really few producers from Alsace that command as much respect (or as much money) as Z-H....and for good reason. Never had a bad bottle from them. Olivier is a interesting person, the only MW that has a Grand Cru Vinyard, and even the first Frenchman to get a MW(I believe) and he is really helping the wine world and it's natural proponents.

    Adam
  • Jeroboam
    Gary:

    Interesting topic - adds some context to the usual swirl and spit. It would be interesting if you continued to explore various aspects of winemaking and viticulture. For example, an episode comparing Napa cabs from various terroirs - is it possible to taste the difference between mountainsideand valley grapes? A little more detail re the varietals used in red blends would also be interesting. Assuming you're still at this during the '07 crush, I'd like to see an episode where you taste the fresh grapes side-by-side with the wines that use those grapes. For many of us who haven't spent time in vineyards and wineries, this would illuminate much of the creativity that inpsires winemaking.

    Live WLTV seems to contradict a basic principle of a video blog - it's uncoupled from real time. Nevertheless, I'm looking forward to seeing how you manage the frenzy of messages on Friday.

    QOTD: Cuckoo's Nest. Nicholson's best.
  • John
    A New Subsciber !!
    I have taken several Wine Classes but you make it fun Vay...Near....Chuck!!!
    And I'm learning !!
    I like the idea of telling us first what you are tasting
    and then I can come into the store and buy some of the
    selections.
  • Brian
    To Drewnoir 24: That's the sulfur dioxide they use to sterilize er, preserve the wine. It's sometimes rotten eggy, but if you smell sulfur it's used to stop mold from growing on (no doubt) purchased fruit. Gunpowder, matches, etc. Gary, part of bio-dynamicysm involves burying a chicken bone on the eve of a full moon...don't know what it does, but you should see my tomatoes in the summer! QOTD: Phantasm at Blue Star in Watchung with my brother and his friend, they didn't want to take me, but I was a very persuasive 11 yr old. (Actually had the dirt on him and his girlfriend he-he)
  • 10SGuy
    QOTD: "Stand By Me" -This movie would probably be Rated G now but in 1986 it was Rated R.
  • Deano
    Hey Gary great episode I learned a lot I didnt know about the biodynamics. The wonderful thought of cow head is great LOL. I wont be able to join you live so i am upset but i am sure it will be a great episode.

    QOTD: I think it was speed with keanu reeves and dennis hopper but not sure.
  • waibeans
    QOD.. the excorcist.

    When I was 5 or 6. I didn't even remember the name of it until I saw it years later and discovered that it was the film that freaked me out so much when I was younger!! The head spinning and the demonic voices had me cringing. Yikes!

    Great topic.. I love seeing all the different cultures in Winemaking. Can't wait for "Wine Live TV"!!
  • jon777
    Looking forward to Friday!

    QOTD: The Blues Brothers ("We're on a mission from God.")

    BTW, several of the movies mentioned (Naked Gun, JAWS, Foul Play) were all PG...
  • Susan
    Gary-
    LIVE!
    LIVE!!
    WOW!!!!!
    I can't wait!!!!!!!
    Will be tuned in at
    4:30 pm this Friday!!!!!!!
    I did not know
    anything
    about Biodynamicly Farmed Wines
    until just now.
    Thanks for the well rounded education!
    We have several
    new local wine shops in
    Charlotte now.
    Very cool that I
    now know enough to at least ask the
    RIGHT
    questions!
    Keep up the super work!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    :)
  • Matt B DC
    First R-Rated Movie?

    A Clockwork Orange, at the tender young age of 11. Ah, good times.
  • Lynne
    Thanks, Gary, for this episode. I have long been a "back to nature" kind of person and opt for the organic route whenever I can. I'm not willing to make that jump as eagerly into the organic wine world. I will definitely try the reisling.

    QOD: I can't remember which I saw first, but it was one of these three:
    Summer of '42 (originally an "R")
    The Exorcist
    The Godfather

    Really looking forward to Friday!
  • Looking forward to Friday - should be great fun!!

    QOTD: Evil Dead - haven't been the same since ;)

    Cheers

    Mark
  • Norcal
    Fubarrin' Tango & Cash! Elementary school sleepover baby!!!
  • jbev
    I'm not sure what the first R rated movie I saw was but
    For some reason I think it was Fast Times AT Ridgemont High.
    I had a Zind Humbrecht Riesling; I don't know what vintage but
    it reminded me of a slightly overdone pineapple upside down cake,
    it was awsome. I'm taking lunch late on Friday, hope to see you live!
  • Dave-from-Katonah
    What about the countdown? whaaasupp wit dat?
  • flavasauce
    oops forgot QOTD.... Well as my parents were very liberal I was never prevented from seeing anything they did which in terms of R ratings was mainly sex (Saturday Night Fever, All That Jazz, Officer And Gentleman, Urban Cowboy, etc.... ) First R film I remember seeing that I really should not have was Friday the 13th in theater for my brothers birthday, I was only 8! Needless to say, It totally freaked me out and still can't see horror films, fortunately I have no problem with well made porn ;)
  • Nathan N
    Can’t wait for the live show Friday.

    QOTD: Can’t remember the name of the movie but it was a biography of Neil Diamond.
  • David Canada
    Nice episode....sad to hear about the Dianna Madeliene as I purchased some at the winery. Might have to crack it and see if I agree with you. If not, I'll let you know.
    QOTD - Basic Instinct....I love Sharon Stone! My wife's is not quite as exciting (I told her to get her own screen name and stop lurcking behind me.....) Her's is Revenge of the Nerds.
  • Darlene O.
    Hey, Gary, again, and as always, great episode. Thank you for educating me on byodynamic farming. Knew nothing about it when I logged on, now know more than I did. Thanks. QOD: 'M.A.S.H.' I was under-age and with some friends at a little local theater in Riverside, California. I felt 'so adult', yet didn't get most of the adult innuendos. Thinking about it now, I've gotta laugh!
  • Drewnior24
    Maybe one of you guys can help me out. The other day I had a 2005 Mark West Pinot Noir, (YUCK!!!) and the nose immediately reminded me of popped BlackCat fire crackers. Would that be considered "oaky"?
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