EP 177 Washington State Wine

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Today Gary sits down and really gets into Washington State wine. This part of the country is bringing the thunder and many people don’t know how good it really is! Sit back and enjoy this run through Walla Walla and more.

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Phil Anderson

Andrew Will is a winery on Vashon Island, Washington. They make very good juice! I’m actually going to be on the island tonight for a comedy show at the local theatre a friend of mine owns!

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  • SS Chris

    Thanks to Gary (#53) and the many VaynIACS for the nice words.

    It makes me happy to know people utlize the SS. 😀

  • JayZee

    Great episode. I have have been among the masses who have clamored for a show on really good Washington State wines. Superb! QOD: My fave Washington State wines area; Delille D2; Matthews Bordaux Blend; Quilceda Creek Cab (WOW); Mark Ryan Dead Horse and Long Haul; and Boudreaux Cellars Syrah and Cab Sauv. Fantastic. I’d be happy to send you a few bottles for a tasting of the Mark Ryan and the Boudreaux.

  • JayZee

    Great episode. I have have been among the masses who have clamored for a show on really good Washington State wines. Superb! QOD: My fave Washington State wines area; Delille D2; Matthews Bordaux Blend; Quilceda Creek Cab (WOW); Mark Ryan Dead Horse and Long Haul; and Boudreaux Cellars Syrah and Cab Sauv. Fantastic. I’d be happy to send you a few bottles for a tasting of the Mark Ryan and the Boudreaux.

  • bugbirdfishboy

    QOTD: Does Covey Run count? Probably not.

  • bugbirdfishboy

    QOTD: Does Covey Run count? Probably not.

  • GottaGoDrink

    Gary- I got soaked at the Super Bowl, too. What an experience!

    QOD- 2003 Ch. Ste. Michelle Indian Wells Cabernet. It might qualify as one of your “half fake” wines, as it sure is delicious with being complex.

  • GottaGoDrink

    Gary- I got soaked at the Super Bowl, too. What an experience!

    QOD- 2003 Ch. Ste. Michelle Indian Wells Cabernet. It might qualify as one of your “half fake” wines, as it sure is delicious with being complex.

  • GottaGoDrink

    Gary- I meant without being complex.

  • GottaGoDrink

    Gary- I meant without being complex.

  • Darin

    Try the Covington Cellars Tuscan Red if you can find it. It’s a Washington Super Tuscan that retails for around $35. Definitely worth it.

  • Darin

    Try the Covington Cellars Tuscan Red if you can find it. It’s a Washington Super Tuscan that retails for around $35. Definitely worth it.

  • michael

    Gary-
    Enjoyed this epi on WA. wines.
    Bold assertion in comparing Napa of 13-16 yr.s prior to that of present day Walla Walla…nice work. Red Mtn. is another to keep our eye on.

    Here’s two of my favorites from WA.; Gorman Winery (Having just completed his 2nd release, Winemaker Chris Gorman has crafted some beautifully bold reds) and Owen Roe…I think that you too would find the experience gratifying at the very least…

  • michael

    Gary-
    Enjoyed this epi on WA. wines.
    Bold assertion in comparing Napa of 13-16 yr.s prior to that of present day Walla Walla…nice work. Red Mtn. is another to keep our eye on.

    Here’s two of my favorites from WA.; Gorman Winery (Having just completed his 2nd release, Winemaker Chris Gorman has crafted some beautifully bold reds) and Owen Roe…I think that you too would find the experience gratifying at the very least…

  • Marc Mc

    Quilceda Creek, FANtastic

  • Marc Mc

    Quilceda Creek, FANtastic

  • Tim Tamblin

    Man o’ man- Just had an 02 Columbia Crest Grand Estate Shiraz on Superbowl Sunday which just so happened to be rated by The Wine Enthusiast as #1 out of it’s 100 Best Buys for 2006 and what a disappointment. It was a prune bomb with what tasted like nasty old oak barrel on the finish. I was shocked that it even made the top 100 let alone #1.

    Gary- I’d love to see you try this one on the show because it’s that astounding. I’m still in shock. Who are these Judges?

  • Tim Tamblin

    Man o’ man- Just had an 02 Columbia Crest Grand Estate Shiraz on Superbowl Sunday which just so happened to be rated by The Wine Enthusiast as #1 out of it’s 100 Best Buys for 2006 and what a disappointment. It was a prune bomb with what tasted like nasty old oak barrel on the finish. I was shocked that it even made the top 100 let alone #1.

    Gary- I’d love to see you try this one on the show because it’s that astounding. I’m still in shock. Who are these Judges?

  • Joel in Kyoto

    checking out the washington wine one right now gary…..YAY, just my kind of intro…no last name pronunciation “paintball in the mouth” this time…..so it’s very easy to slip right into your stream (and, on the other hand, you didn’t have to put on a professorial tweed coat either….)

    also….love your handling of the delille white price point……my complaints about wash. wines are that they too often jump right into serious wine prices without having earned them….but since you are calling walla walla the new napa…and i know some good producers there have been around awhile, maybe there is some wine out there deserving of the price (too/so) many seem to ask for….

    also i am glad to hear someone in the industry mention auz wines (esp shiraz) in the same conversation as west coast wines….i think the comparison is very important. australia offers a LOT of competition in what i would call the unabashed high octane fruit bomb syrah/shiraz’s….and i have had quite a few wash. syrahs twice the price but offering the same generic (you used the term fake) modern fruit bomb flavor profile as the auz shiraz’s….(now the cayuse en chamberlin, that sounds like my kind of wine….but the price points…..:-((((

    ……and HEY don’t forget to try those new world syrahs and shiraz’s out of the reidel burgundy glass man…you won’t go back to the bordeaux glass (or the syrah) glass!!!….finally a real use for those big balloons

    my kind of show gary….all your creative juices go into the juice..good work!

  • Joel in Kyoto

    checking out the washington wine one right now gary…..YAY, just my kind of intro…no last name pronunciation “paintball in the mouth” this time…..so it’s very easy to slip right into your stream (and, on the other hand, you didn’t have to put on a professorial tweed coat either….)

    also….love your handling of the delille white price point……my complaints about wash. wines are that they too often jump right into serious wine prices without having earned them….but since you are calling walla walla the new napa…and i know some good producers there have been around awhile, maybe there is some wine out there deserving of the price (too/so) many seem to ask for….

    also i am glad to hear someone in the industry mention auz wines (esp shiraz) in the same conversation as west coast wines….i think the comparison is very important. australia offers a LOT of competition in what i would call the unabashed high octane fruit bomb syrah/shiraz’s….and i have had quite a few wash. syrahs twice the price but offering the same generic (you used the term fake) modern fruit bomb flavor profile as the auz shiraz’s….(now the cayuse en chamberlin, that sounds like my kind of wine….but the price points…..:-((((

    ……and HEY don’t forget to try those new world syrahs and shiraz’s out of the reidel burgundy glass man…you won’t go back to the bordeaux glass (or the syrah) glass!!!….finally a real use for those big balloons

    my kind of show gary….all your creative juices go into the juice..good work!

  • Doug T

    Nice job G-Man,

    Where do you come up with these new but totally understandable descriptions … ride the skittles rainbow …. red cabbage & slim Jims ?? … what’s scary is that I can relate !!

    I’ve been a washington wine fan for at least ten years. I’ve always loved l’ecole cab, woodward canyon cab, seven hills cab, and Quilceda Creek cab …. can you tell I’m a cab man ?? I’ve only tried a couple washington syrahs but I’ll definitely give the D2 and the reininger a shot.
    Thanks again !

  • Doug T

    Nice job G-Man,

    Where do you come up with these new but totally understandable descriptions … ride the skittles rainbow …. red cabbage & slim Jims ?? … what’s scary is that I can relate !!

    I’ve been a washington wine fan for at least ten years. I’ve always loved l’ecole cab, woodward canyon cab, seven hills cab, and Quilceda Creek cab …. can you tell I’m a cab man ?? I’ve only tried a couple washington syrahs but I’ll definitely give the D2 and the reininger a shot.
    Thanks again !

  • Kirkland M

    QOTD: Leonetti is amazing.

  • Kirkland M

    QOTD: Leonetti is amazing.

  • Thanks Gary for your honest and umm — “unique” descriptions. I am a Walla Walla wine-geek from Walla Walla. I love-love-love the descriptions of “ride the Skittles rainbow…cabbage & Slim Jims” to one of my most coveted and favored wines – Cayuse. I totally get it. Cheers!

  • Thanks Gary for your honest and umm — “unique” descriptions. I am a Walla Walla wine-geek from Walla Walla. I love-love-love the descriptions of “ride the Skittles rainbow…cabbage & Slim Jims” to one of my most coveted and favored wines – Cayuse. I totally get it. Cheers!

  • BruceP

    Arrgh. Tried to order the Cayuse En Chamberlin, but you teased me by letting me order it and then telling me today that you were out. Only the crap Skittles and Unicorns one is still available. I’m bummed. Heavy sigh.

  • BruceP

    Arrgh. Tried to order the Cayuse En Chamberlin, but you teased me by letting me order it and then telling me today that you were out. Only the crap Skittles and Unicorns one is still available. I’m bummed. Heavy sigh.

  • Miguelo DiMarco

    Stupid = very good

    Killing it = fantastic

    I’m just not keeping in touch with the kids these days.

    Wine Enthusiast scored 2002 Columia Crest Grand Estates Shiraz 90 points and the #1 Best Buy of 2006. That will be my first Washington State wine (that I can recall) when I open it. Maybe it’s better than the Reserve that you just reviewed??

  • Miguelo DiMarco

    Stupid = very good

    Killing it = fantastic

    I’m just not keeping in touch with the kids these days.

    Wine Enthusiast scored 2002 Columia Crest Grand Estates Shiraz 90 points and the #1 Best Buy of 2006. That will be my first Washington State wine (that I can recall) when I open it. Maybe it’s better than the Reserve that you just reviewed??

  • Patt

    Chateau Ste Michelle Riesling is one of my wife’s favorites, although after your vlog on Riesling’s, I think that will be a thing of the past

  • Patt

    Chateau Ste Michelle Riesling is one of my wife’s favorites, although after your vlog on Riesling’s, I think that will be a thing of the past

  • cumpari

    Washington and Walla Walla are very young wine regions. The growth of winemakers has and is continuing to outpace the supply of fruit coming out of the area. Vintners preceded the Vingnerons in Walla Walla. Gary Figgins of Leonetti and Rick Small of Woodward Canyon are case in point (though they’ve developed their estates, respectively). However, much of the productive acreage is maturing and high quality AVA fruit is being harvested. As the productive acreage increases, which it is, and those vines mature — say 10 years or so — the quality of wines coming out Walla Walla will increase and go head-to-head with the best of France. Watch. 10 years…Napa? Yes in terms of quality. No, in terms of theme park-ness. Cayuse is a case in point — the best of the old and new world. If you’ve ever seen a cross-section photo of the geology of the Walla Walla AVA, Cayuse wine captures the interaction of the soil and rock minerals: it’s like tasting geologic time! Amazing!! Yea, yea, technique in the winery is important, too. But, wine is only as good as the fruit. It’s all about the farming. Sure, technology is such that you can “fix” not-so-stellar batches. Anyway, I would encourage everyone investigate Walla Walla wines, and to check out Zerba. Their small and unknown (like the majority of their Walla Walla counterparts). Anyway, Zerba’s quality derives from their farming, and they’re following Christophe Barone’s lead (investigate this). Notwithstanding 2004, any other year from Zerba is a rockin’ value and will age. I highly recommend their Syrah. The “red table wine” is also an awesome value (~$17). They totally killed-it on the 2003 Syrah (it won a blind-taste gold medal of all 90+ point syrahs from the Northwest. Get it if you can. Salute.

  • cumpari

    Washington and Walla Walla are very young wine regions. The growth of winemakers has and is continuing to outpace the supply of fruit coming out of the area. Vintners preceded the Vingnerons in Walla Walla. Gary Figgins of Leonetti and Rick Small of Woodward Canyon are case in point (though they’ve developed their estates, respectively). However, much of the productive acreage is maturing and high quality AVA fruit is being harvested. As the productive acreage increases, which it is, and those vines mature — say 10 years or so — the quality of wines coming out Walla Walla will increase and go head-to-head with the best of France. Watch. 10 years…Napa? Yes in terms of quality. No, in terms of theme park-ness. Cayuse is a case in point — the best of the old and new world. If you’ve ever seen a cross-section photo of the geology of the Walla Walla AVA, Cayuse wine captures the interaction of the soil and rock minerals: it’s like tasting geologic time! Amazing!! Yea, yea, technique in the winery is important, too. But, wine is only as good as the fruit. It’s all about the farming. Sure, technology is such that you can “fix” not-so-stellar batches. Anyway, I would encourage everyone investigate Walla Walla wines, and to check out Zerba. Their small and unknown (like the majority of their Walla Walla counterparts). Anyway, Zerba’s quality derives from their farming, and they’re following Christophe Barone’s lead (investigate this). Notwithstanding 2004, any other year from Zerba is a rockin’ value and will age. I highly recommend their Syrah. The “red table wine” is also an awesome value (~$17). They totally killed-it on the 2003 Syrah (it won a blind-taste gold medal of all 90+ point syrahs from the Northwest. Get it if you can. Salute.

  • David M

    Hey Gary!

    Have made three trips to Walla Walla, start inthe Wilamette Valley and drive through the gorge up to Walla Walla. I was fortunate to hang with Christophe and Trevor for futures weekend. I agree wholeheartly on the area and the winesas I have the 2004 you tasted along with the Cayuse Bionic Frog, Tempranillo and Campselo. I must tell you that Charles over @ K vintners uses Christophe’s fruit and blows away the Cause wines…Charles is a win rock star and is producgin the most intersting wines in the region and perhaps the country.

    So let’s meet up there!

  • David M

    Hey Gary!

    Have made three trips to Walla Walla, start inthe Wilamette Valley and drive through the gorge up to Walla Walla. I was fortunate to hang with Christophe and Trevor for futures weekend. I agree wholeheartly on the area and the winesas I have the 2004 you tasted along with the Cayuse Bionic Frog, Tempranillo and Campselo. I must tell you that Charles over @ K vintners uses Christophe’s fruit and blows away the Cause wines…Charles is a win rock star and is producgin the most intersting wines in the region and perhaps the country.

    So let’s meet up there!

  • elron

    Enjoyed the episode as usual and also enjoy Washington state wines. They have a uniqueness to them. I liked Sagelands Cabernet for it’s ruggedness. Columbia Crest is almost always on hand in the house. Like Rich S., I recently enjoyed Snoqualmie’s 2000 Reserve Merlot.

  • elron

    Enjoyed the episode as usual and also enjoy Washington state wines. They have a uniqueness to them. I liked Sagelands Cabernet for it’s ruggedness. Columbia Crest is almost always on hand in the house. Like Rich S., I recently enjoyed Snoqualmie’s 2000 Reserve Merlot.

  • Jessi

    Hi Gary – I’m finally coming out of the lurker shadows because I owe you a BIG thanks for this episode! I watched it last week, then was at a fancy-schmancy restaurant for dinner w/ some colleauges over the weekend, and they handed me the wine list (I am the wine geek of the group, but that’s not saying a whole lot…). A pick from a wine list usually feels like a stab in the dark to me, but lo and behold, there was the D2 at the top of the New World meritage list. A little bell went off in my head, I ordered with confidence, and it was a hit! Damn, was it good. I had trouble paying attention to the conversation – I kept going back to my glass for a sniff! I will definitely be seeking this one out for myself.

    I am a lurker no more – thanks again!

  • Jessi

    Hi Gary – I’m finally coming out of the lurker shadows because I owe you a BIG thanks for this episode! I watched it last week, then was at a fancy-schmancy restaurant for dinner w/ some colleauges over the weekend, and they handed me the wine list (I am the wine geek of the group, but that’s not saying a whole lot…). A pick from a wine list usually feels like a stab in the dark to me, but lo and behold, there was the D2 at the top of the New World meritage list. A little bell went off in my head, I ordered with confidence, and it was a hit! Damn, was it good. I had trouble paying attention to the conversation – I kept going back to my glass for a sniff! I will definitely be seeking this one out for myself.

    I am a lurker no more – thanks again!

  • scott

    TDude, thanks for trying some wines from the great state of Washington.

    So stoked you featured Delille D2, which is a stellar wine year after year.

    Your mention of Betz was also welcomed. Don’t forget about the other Woodinville wines, including Baer and Matthews, both garagistas that are setting extremely high standards out here.

    You briefly mentioned Quilceda Creek, which by any measure, is one of the greatest cabernets in the world. The release date for 2004 Cab is April 1, and I’ve got a case with my name on it waiting at the winery. It is in indescribably great wine, an immortal elixir, and I hope you feature it sometime on your show.

    Thanks.

    Scott in Seattle.

  • scott

    TDude, thanks for trying some wines from the great state of Washington.

    So stoked you featured Delille D2, which is a stellar wine year after year.

    Your mention of Betz was also welcomed. Don’t forget about the other Woodinville wines, including Baer and Matthews, both garagistas that are setting extremely high standards out here.

    You briefly mentioned Quilceda Creek, which by any measure, is one of the greatest cabernets in the world. The release date for 2004 Cab is April 1, and I’ve got a case with my name on it waiting at the winery. It is in indescribably great wine, an immortal elixir, and I hope you feature it sometime on your show.

    Thanks.

    Scott in Seattle.

  • Justin

    2003 Hogue Genesis Cabernet, thought it was a great wine for the money.

  • Justin

    2003 Hogue Genesis Cabernet, thought it was a great wine for the money.

  • Jt

    QOTD: Chateau Ste.Michelle, Canoe Ridge, Wind River, Columbia Crest Reserve, Hogue. I’m sure I’ve had others, just can’t remember them right now. Glad I’m finally getting some time to watch what I’ve missed. Gary as always keep up the excellent work & Cheers ~~~

  • Jt

    QOTD: Chateau Ste.Michelle, Canoe Ridge, Wind River, Columbia Crest Reserve, Hogue. I’m sure I’ve had others, just can’t remember them right now. Glad I’m finally getting some time to watch what I’ve missed. Gary as always keep up the excellent work & Cheers ~~~

  • Gary, my husband has been laughing at me for years for using “Twizzlers” as a wine descriptor! Bravo!

    ~Monica

  • Gary, my husband has been laughing at me for years for using “Twizzlers” as a wine descriptor! Bravo!

    ~Monica

  • VinOrecul

    If you wanna roll with WALLA WALLA you gotta have their onions…everyone native to WA knows what super tongue tastiness the dubble dub sweet onions bring.

    QUOTD: I drink WA wine all the time, problem is I hate how we are compared to california. I would rather see comparisons to France, even if WA wines get beat everytime….will the real rocky balboa come out and go the distance!

  • VinOrecul

    If you wanna roll with WALLA WALLA you gotta have their onions…everyone native to WA knows what super tongue tastiness the dubble dub sweet onions bring.

    QUOTD: I drink WA wine all the time, problem is I hate how we are compared to california. I would rather see comparisons to France, even if WA wines get beat everytime….will the real rocky balboa come out and go the distance!

  • Syrahhhhhhhhh

    Gary, awesome episode for my home team boys in WA!

    Ok here is a list of some smaller Washington gems besides the great ones you mentioned here..Reininger, Betz, L’Ecole, Matthews, Boudreaux, Dunham, these always deliver…but how about:

    Fielding Hills…you have mentioned in the past..get anything you can and it will rock your world

    K Vintners comment below is spot on…he is a rock star…2004 Cougar Hills Syrah

    Januik winery…Mike Januik makes syrah that will make you pee your pants with joy

    :Nota Bene…2005 Una Bene or the 2004 Ciel du Cheval Vineyard

    Walla Walla Vintners…big punch you in the mouth merlots

    OS Winery…the BSH (Brick S— House) is always a winner, but also get your hands on the syrahs and petit verdot..the Ulysses and Cab Franc are stellar efforts

    Spring Valley Vineyard…some of the best wine in Walla Walla without question in the past…the winemaker dies recently and they have a new guy so we’ll see, but 2004 and older wines…Derby, Uriah, Frederick all will produce a strong desire for love making within minutes of drinking…do it, drink it.

    shall I keep going? ok I will then…

    Fall Line…tiny producer, but getting bigger, of four superb Bordeaux style blends from some of the superior grapes of Washington…try the 2005 Red Mountain or any 2004s if you can get them

    Cadence…2005 Bel Canto…just a unbelievably stupid Bordeaux blend that will make you crazy for Washington even if it is 50 U S dollars

    Patit Creek is a factory for merlots that rival anything in California

    Saviah…try the Une Valle or the always great bargain in The Jack

    and for two really little but F’ing great wines try…

    SYZYGY…2005 Syrah is almost as good as the 2003 was and they go fast so buy it and then hold it for a bit if you have the will power…I obviously do not.

    Stephenson…this infinitesimally small syrah producer is worth hunting down because he makes the S! Deep black fruit ans silky smooth thunder

    I will do more in another post, but if you want a great source pick up Paul Gregutt’s book on Washington wine that was published in 2007.

    syrahhhhhhhh

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