Pinot Noir Taste Off - Episode #221

April 20, 2007

Wines tasted in this episode:

Gary Vaynerchuk and four different wines made from the Pinot Noir grape.

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  1. about 3 months ago

    Dessert Wine Nerd

    How nerdy is it that Im excited that the screen is about 3x larger than the one on youtube? Love the tasting notes on the Chehalem… Im a huge pepper and spice fan.

  2. about 9 months ago

    Aave

    There should be a movie for all the grapes, from aglianico to viognier and from pinot grigio to petit verdot. They’ve all earned the effort.

  3. about 17 months ago

    JimCT

    Really kind of liked Sideways. Some funny bits that were still funny the second time around. Great movie? Not quite, but what other wine movies were?

    As for the prices, I got hit by the fact that Hitching Post was featured. It was one of my early favorites and the mid-90’s vintages were my first Pinots that sat in my “cellar” for a few years. Those wines were delicious. They weren’t all that cheap back then (for me / around $32-$35). and I suppose the movie accelerated that inflation. But some day I’ll buy them again.

  4. about 17 months ago

    Bexter

    Glad you loved the Chehalem, and happy someone corrected your mispronunciation of Oregon. I loved Willamette Valley pinot well before “Sideways,” and the good ones have always seemed pretty spendy, but many worth it, too.

    I thought Sideways was a brilliant movie! I’m amazed by how many comments refer to the dislike of the characters. Personally, I would never judge a movie based upon the “likability” of the characters–I watch it for entertainment, not to find friends. In fact, if I find myself “hating” a character, then I’ve obviously been moved, emotionally speaking, and that’s impressive in my opinion. As for the repercussions on the wine market…I’ll keep a positive attitude and appreciate the affordable merlot.

  5. about 17 months ago

    GingerFe

    Not Fair! Why did you taste an 04 Chambolle in this mix… 04s just don’t stand up… I’d be curious if you had tried an 02 or 03 from the same producer, would you have had the same notes….I think it’s important to match apples to apples.. Yes? Of course, the Aussie was the wild card.

  6. about 17 months ago

    Susan

    Gary-
    Great Ep!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Can’t afford these yet………………..
    Susan
    :)

  7. about 17 months ago

    wayno da wino

    If you drink no Noir, you Pinot Noir !! :)

  8. about 17 months ago

    Adolfo Orendain

    For us Pinot Noir lovers, Sideways just made them more expensive.
    Although i liked the movie, it is interesting to see the Hollywood influence even on Wine.

    If there is grape that can get you in good mood. That is Pinot Noir!

  9. about 17 months ago

    Kirk

    QOTD: Sideways was a gateway to bring wine into the spotlight…I don’t think you can account for a movies success in the rising prices of Pinot Noir. I think that possibly the movie opened peoples eyes to wine as a whole…and thus brought more people to the market. With more people in the market there are less available wines…driving up the prices. I’m just glad that they shot the film in Santa Barbera and not Newburg, OR. I personally didn’t find the movie altering my tastes at all…however a weekend touring Willamette Valley DID. As for other trends…I’d like to see a movie shot about the finger lakes…maybe that’d be a great way to see if sales go up there. Look for an increase in popularity of Provance, France in the next few years….and if it happens we can all thank Russel Crowe.

  10. about 17 months ago

    TagWorld Brian

    Since there’s apparently no new episode today, let me take a moment to mention another amazing Pinot Noir: Duckhorn Goldeneye Anderson Valley 2004. WS91: “This wine exhibits dusty berry, cola and wild raspberry flavors in a complex, well-focused style. Ripe and tannic, it finishes with nice fruit and tannin traction. Drink now through 2011.”) Another review said: “This is a delectable, full-bodied wine with a smooth mouth feel, fine tannin structure, lush texture and a lingering finish. The aroma is complex with notes of cherry, earth, smoke, cedar and flowers. The flavors are predominantly plum, blackberry, and strawberry with a hint of truffles and a spicy dash of black pepper on the lingering finish.” I agree. The Duckhorn was an incredible PN. It had a medium-light color, but the nose was seductive - dark, earthy, and a little gamey. The flavors were cherry and dark berry, and a little spice. It was rounded, fairly full-bodied, and had a great, lasting finish. I know I’m echoing Spectator’s notes, but they are dead-on IMHO.

    Also, last night my Dad and I shared a Sapphire Hill Pinot Noir 2004. It was hot at first (would decanting have helped that?), but delicious flavor profile and finish. Black cherry/berries/tea/spice.

  11. about 17 months ago

    Randy

    So true Ken.

    Merlot is what I generally want to drink while my Cab is laying down for several years ;)

  12. about 17 months ago

    Dave-from-Katonah

    6:15 and no new episode? Bad w/e in Chi-town?
    We await the new arrival with patience…

  13. about 17 months ago

    Ken

    Sideways was great and Paul G. was amaizing. This movie made me appreciate Pinot Noir and try different types of wines that I never paid attention to before.B4 Sideways, all I drank was merlot and Cabs.

  14. about 17 months ago

    Like 'em Rounded and Aged

    100% love what Sideways did to the cost of Merlot and Cab Franc prices! I prefer those grapes over California Pinots anyway.

  15. about 17 months ago

    Dusty

    QOTD: I had the unfortunate luck of really starting to get into wine right before Sideways came out. I like the movie. It’s entertaining and whatnot, but for the longest time as a new wine drinker I avoided Pinot Noir and Merlot because I didn’t want people to think that I was drinking it solely based on that movie. Although lately, not that I think about it, Sideways is almost always playing in the background when my few wine friends and I pop open a bottle.

  16. about 17 months ago

    Jon B

    Hi Ken,

    The bottle shape is pretty much just marketing following French tradition. It used to be that big Bordeaux wines threw tannins and tartrates as a sediment to the side or bottom of the bottle, and you needed the high shoulder to catch the sediment when you decanted. Burgundy wines, on the other hand, tended not to throw a sediment as often, so they wanted every drop of the wine to slide out easily from the bottle. Nowadays it doesn’t really matter, but wine geeks like me are quick to think a Pinot looks odd in a Bordeaux bottle, like the New Zealand Pinot Gary just tasted.

    I agree that the fat-bottomed bottles are a pain in the rack. But those heavy glass bottles do help with market perception on higher-end wines.

  17. about 17 months ago

    Ken

    Gary, Good episode today. I’ve always been curious; why are Pinot Noir bottles the shape that hey are? It really doesn’t bother me but some people I know hate the shape because it make the wine hard to store.

    QOTD: I’m really not all that mad at Sideways. I wasn’t a big PN drinker before Sideways and I’m still not. I guess the price bump is a little aggravating. I probably would have been more upset if the focus was on Rhone varietals such as Grenache & Syrah. However, I do like what Sideways did to the demand for Merlot. I’m a Merlot fan as long as it is well made – Washington, Right Bank, etc. People that think Merlot sucks haven’t had good Merlot.

  18. about 17 months ago

    Photo Joe

    I’m actually a big fan of Sideways, because as a new comer (who now works in a retail store selling wine), I found the movie to be great, because it made me feel closer to the wine world, but now that I know what I’m talking about (for the most part)in my store, I find it disturbing that my favorite piont noirs are going up out of my price range. We had to pass on some great Pinot Noir this year, like Carr, because of the price increase. This is really upsetting, because I just started experiencing Pinot Noirs that are huge in tannins and greatly balanced and full bodied! Pinot Noirs are not my favorite, but they could be, if I could experiment with them more often.
    I’m actually a huge hipocryte, because I don’t mind paying $35 for a good Cabernet, but I DO mind paying $35 for the best Pinot Noir.

    Hmmmmmmmmmm, I’ll have to think about this… good question of the day!

    Photo Joe

  19. about 17 months ago

    Tony S.

    Nice…well…Pinot’s are my favorite. In fact, if I had to only drink one kind of wine for the rest of my life, it would be Burgundy. As for the movie, I thought it was entertaining, and when I saw it, I knew right away that PN was going to become bigger and Merlots were going to slump. But that’s just what happens with movies.

    So, I guess you could say I just expected that to happen, and so I wasn’t really mad. I didn’t LOVE the movie, it was alright. But, my wife used to love Merlot, and after that movie she has a stigma about it. It’s kind of funny.

    OK…enjoy Chicago while you’re here. Go to Weiner Circle and get yourself a hot dog with everything on it–they go great with Vega Sicilia “Unico”, and then go to Lou Malnatti’s and get some deep dish pizza.

    OK…see you later,
    Go BEARS!!
    T

  20. about 17 months ago

    Lawrence Leichtman

    This episode was so timely as we are headed to Willamette Valley tomorrow and Chehalem is on our list of places to go. Somewhat hard to follow the smell comment of old fingernails and Cyndi Lauper though I have some idea of what Chrisitina Aguillera smells like but don’t know why.

    Sideways was a fun movie except for trashing Merlot that can be a great wine (inlcuding his horded Cheval Blanc) and pushing the price up on Pinot Noir and forcing the producers to make wine that violates what he espouses of a delicate wine.

  21. about 17 months ago

    thabeav

    Gary,

    Two quick questions:

    1)Could you stop abusing the wines? Watching you use $50+ wine to wash your glass hurts me. Some of us po’ folk use water to rinse our glasses. Your flippant wasting of great juice makes me wonder: are there Vayniaks who hangout outside your store to get the “crumbs” left after the episode?

    2)What’s up with your scoring system? In recent epsiode, you described a wine as “boring” and “average,” yet gave it 86 points?! Shouldn’t average, much less boring, get around 75 points? You seem to have a disproportionate number of scores from 86-91 points.

    3) WHY would you leave pinot open for nine hours??? Syrah, I get, but Pinot?

    Regardless, you have the best blog on the net and EVERY episode is fun, education, and entertaining. Our entire research lab now gathers at lunch to watch each day’s episode at my computer. Congratulations on a great show. We love it!

    QOTD: Sideways will always be tainted by the scene of the LARGE NAKED MAN running down the street.

  22. about 17 months ago

    Jen

    Plus, I did that scene from “Sideways” [between Miles and Maya] in my acting class… and it was AWESOME. [Patting myself on the back...] Ha ha ha!! And, ps I didn’t read any of the other comments before I posted, but yeah, I guess if it drove the prices up then yes, that would be a reason it ruined pinot… but pinot is so gooooood… isn’t it worth it? Besides, everything costs more these days. I just paid $3.45 a gallon for gasoline…. disgusting! Pinot is much more useful. :)

  23. about 17 months ago

    Jen

    QOTD: I love “Sideways”, for all reasons: one because it was a great movie, two because it got me thinking about wine in a way I never had before. It increased my interest and my curiosity; not just for pinot, but for all wine, and especially for exploring more of the beautiful state in which I live (CA, peeps..!) and I have learned and experienced so much since then. Sure, it’s Hollywood, but how could it possibly have ruined anything for anybody?? I thought we were here to CHANGE THE WINE WORLD! Aren’t we?!?! It’s my way of thinking that to say the movie ruined pinot noir is to maintain an elitist attitude about wine. No way, man. If you love it, you love it. Period! There’s room for everyone. Thanks for doing this episode, Gary. :)

  24. about 17 months ago

    Chris D.

    How could anyone get mad at Paul Giamatti???
    “If anyone orders merlot I’m leaving. I am not drinking any F$@*ing merlot!”

    Check him out in Cinderella Man and The Illusionist.

  25. about 17 months ago

    wayno da wino

    Gary, Mooooocho Thanks for a Pinot Noir
    (my favorite since da mid 80’s) Episode!!
    I slobbered allover myself watchin’ ya
    down dose gems!!

    QOTD: I was in a panic at first when Sideways
    came out. But all-in-all it hasn’t affected
    my Pinot allocation/consumption as I thought
    it might.

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