Argentina Has Cabernet Too. – Episode #227

April 30, 2007

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Gary Vaynerchuk knows most of you think about Malbec but today we search out the Cabernet Sauvignon’s

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  1. July 2, 2008

    Dessert Wine Nerd

    I hope you had a proper burial for Mothy. *plays taps* QOTD: I havent had enough wines you to make a proper answer to that. I need to crack open some of my nicer wines I have cellaring and will possibly get back to you on that.

  2. May 25, 2007

    Kraemer

    Hurray for mothey!

  3. May 7, 2007

    dz

    Joe nailed qotd with anything by Marquis Phillips with its pandering Roogle that I would like to shoot and 2002 Silver Oak Alexander Valley , a weak vanilla flavored wine that is shockingly bad. Also, as a general category 6-10 dollar Spanish Grenaches that scored 90 pts. from Robert Parker.

  4. May 4, 2007

    lee

    most overrated wine was the 2004 domaine alfred califa pinot noir 2004. i think laube with the spectator gave it 96 points. it is too sweet and gets its tail kicked by its little brother, the domaine alfred chamisal vineyard pinot noir 2004.

  5. May 3, 2007

    MichaelP

    QOTD: 2001 Dutschke Gods Hill Shiraz. Yuk!

  6. May 2, 2007

    Dom

    QOTD Faleso Vitiano 04

  7. May 2, 2007

    Shotgun

    Great episode on a great wine region of the world. QOD– I was thinking anything Silver Oak, but I count about a dozen mentions of that one ahead of me, so I’ll have to try something more original. Perhaps most disappointing was a bottle of Kamen 2003 Sonoma Cabernet that we had at the little place that is Jean Georges second restaurant, what’s it called? I can’t remember right off, but Jean Georges on training wheels. I had already sent back a corked Chinon, and thought the Kamen a safe bet, but it was a green vegetable bomb– awful (GV, you might have liked it– chock full of green pepper, pickle and broccoli).

    Gary– congrats on the NPR piece. Well done!

    Gary– Incest? Incest? Last week you were asking about marrying siblings, and now…?

  8. May 2, 2007

    TSchampaert

    Kudos to Mothy!
    QOTD: a Parker 92-94 Chateauneuf dP Chante Cigale 2003. Huge expectations, but a complete disaster. Disjointed, greenish bitterness, hollow mid palate, horrible … . Had it twice on different occassions and both played the wrong card. Still two bottles left in my cellar. What the h*ck should I do with them?

  9. May 1, 2007

    ashley alfinito

    Hi! I love your approach to wines!!! I am a student at the Culinary Institute of America. My instructor, Denise Hall, suggested we watch your videos, since we recently did a wine tasting. Sh also said you were very handsome when we asked if you were cute. haha. I agree with her. Take care, happy drinking!!!

  10. May 1, 2007

    big mitch

    My daughter was actually bat-mitzvahed in Italy(long story) in the summer of 2001 and people told me to check out Monsanto Chianti, went to the vineyard, had a great tour, brought some bottles back
    1999 vintage too, had a bottle a few weeks later and was totally disappointed.To this day I don’t know why

  11. May 1, 2007

    jimvarney01

    ^ Hey Benji, what’s up?

    Gary, Peta is gonna be on your ass for disturbing Mothy’s natural habitat. How dare you.

    QOTD: Two buck chuck… Rosemount Shiraz…. Opus One… Wow, there’s a lot of incredibly overrated wines.

    Another sweet episode.

  12. May 1, 2007

    Karl B

    QOTD: 2000 Peter Michael Les Pavots Cabernet Sauvignon – absolutely without mid-range body, terrible. I was asked if it would get better with age, but it can’t if it does not have any body to begin with!!!

  13. May 1, 2007

    Benji

    GV, Mothy? :) . Another character to add to WLTV! I’m sure he’ll make many guest apperances like the Oak Monster. Next thing you know , Gary will be asking the vayniacs to send in their “Mothy art”. We can all look forward to a Mothy Montage somewhere in the near future. If any of you don’t know what this means…check out the end of episode #153.

    Thanks for another great ep!

  14. May 1, 2007

    wizard_chef

    Seems to me asking for absolutes like the “worst” or the “best” wines is a kind of non sequitur. Somebody hates riesling. Another hates the oaky CA chards. Wine is like art. There are clearly some really bad wines and bad art. But, it’s mostly in the palate of the beholder! I recently had a beautiful, crisp sauvignon blanc from France that was not much for sipping but dynamite with the shrimp and scallops dish we had for dinner. I love gewurtztraminer with spicy foods but it’s only good for drowning roaches for any other purpose (in my opinion!). Depends on the person and circumstance of the pour.

    It’s what you like. So, what disappoints some may delight others. Like Gary would say, lighten up! Wine is for enjoying! And, there are lots of reasonably priced wines that are delightful to drink.

  15. May 1, 2007

    Lawrence Leichtman

    Cinq Cepage from Chateau St. Jean. I had it before it received the number 1 rating from WS and after. Was never impressed and the price skyrocketed. Never understood that one at all. Seemed like someone slipped someone some dollars under the table (nudge niudge wink wink)
    Great episode as always. The Catena Cab has been going strong for many years but I have yet to taste or smell milk in it.

    Just got back from working in Oregon and Seattle and have never done much wine tasting there. Went to Willamette Valley and hit every open winery. Some impressions. Tori Mor absolutely hit the heights of the smoothest silkiest example of Oregon Pinot Noir and Domaine Serene the most powerful as well as Domaine Serene Viognier/Pinot Gris Blend with a bit of oak in it. What a great taste. Enjoyed Archery Summit, disappointed in several including Lange that was highly rated. Very pedestrian Pinot Noirs were the rule at many places with the most expensive tasting cost I have ever seen (makes Napa look like a bargain) and my biggest disappointment was that Chelhalem, a maker of some wonderful Pinot Noirs, had sold their liqour license to a grocer and no longer does tastings. Also disappointed that all of the wineries in Carlton were closed on Tuesdays and there were some very promising ones.

  16. May 1, 2007

    poquelin

    QOTD: Opus One is getting a bad rap here. I have never been disappointed with any vintage (especially the ‘96). On the other hand, I have often been underwhelmed by some the highly touted French Bordeaux. The ‘82 Ausone (95 RP) didn’t do a thing for me. Even worse was a ‘96 Cos D’Estournel (93 RP).

  17. May 1, 2007

    MzTeaze

    Mothy got a shout out – very cool!

    QOTD: For me it has to be the 2003 M. Chapoutier Hermitage White Chante-Alouette, WS 92. Their description alone sounds like a must have “Ripe, concentrated layers of papaya, fig and macadamia nut are woven with mineral, piecrust and fresh, sweetened butter notes, all rippling through a long showy finish that alternates between waxy and racy. Hard to resist now”…..dunno where they got that cuz it tasted like a minerally Perrier, which I hate. :-(

  18. May 1, 2007

    Rick W.

    Opus One & Silver Oak have to be the 2 most over-rated wines in the market today. If you have a few good years back to back & a catchy name then your wine is suppose to be good for life!! That’s what so great about wine, you have to know your vintage. Example; I had a B.V. Tapestry 1997 in a restaurant in Cleveland and it was a great bottle of wine. Then I ordered the same wine at a restaurant in Ca. the wine list said 1997, but they brought me a 1998. Needless to say it was terrible. After the dinner I did some investigating the 1997 was rated 92 points & 1998 was rated 81 points.

  19. May 1, 2007

    cdavis

    I’m a huge Catena fan! I cant wait to try the Alta CS!

    QOTD: hmm, I am going to stretch my answer and say Parker tends to overrate Aussies and I repeatedly find myself disappointed with 90-92 Parker Aussies.

  20. May 1, 2007

    thkorent

    QOTD: My guess would be De Loach Chardonnay and Pinot Noir Russian river valley 2004. 5 Decanter stars for both of them and they were amazingly BAD.
    I am very much in favour of the Catena Cab, in fact, in both 2001 and 2002 i’ve liked it better than their Malbec. I guess, I’ll go buy a bottle of the 03 soon!

  21. May 1, 2007

    WINO

    QOTD- Chateau Cantelys that you guys were pushing awhile back. Maybe it was just too old world for my tastes. I also was displeased with the Domaine La Garrigue 2005. A very very dry bland Cote du Rhone. Again, maybe just too old world for my tastes, but seemed to miss the boat. Gary, could you taste the Garrigue on the show so I can see what you think?

  22. May 1, 2007

    Ken

    Excellent interview on NPR Gary. I starting to feel like it won’t be long before you have a show on cable TV- Maybe on the Food Network. I think you’ve got it. You’ll soon be the Bobby Flay of Wine. I’m proud of you & WineLibraryTV. Draft vid was funny.
    QOTD: 2004 Koonunga Hill Shiraz Cabernet [RP-90Points]

  23. May 1, 2007

    Iron Man

    QOTD whoa, too many to list…but even cheap wines have hurt me in the past, lastly a 2003 BenMarco, the 04 Catena Malbec normale, and the 2003 Arietta Propriety, nice after 2 hours but by the next day, the wine was shot….oh and then I had a flat Bud Light draft at Wingstop, I returned it…not my weekend I guess.

  24. May 1, 2007

    Acousticdoc

    Gary,
    Great episode as always. Loved the NPR interview and the Draft camio.
    QOTD: 2002 Jordan Cab. It has been the most expensive bottle of Jordan I have bought to date, AND the most dissapointing.

  25. May 1, 2007

    Freddy

    gary, great job on npr!
    most overrated wine 1994 opus one – while it was good, it didn’t blow me away like it did my friends who drank the wine with me. then again, most of my friends don’t like the old world wines that i am a fan of. to take it one step further, an underrated wine, which i thought was excellent with its complexity and elegance was the 1999 lisini brunello di montalcino which i had with a meal of veal osso bucco and risotto.
    as a side note, if you are going to throw a bone to some of us old world fans, any plans to do a show on 2005 burgundys? while everyone would like to see you take down some rousseau chambertin and la tache, i’d be interested in some offerings from both the larger and smaller producers, their differences, and how the wines compared across the board from vosne romanee, gevrey chambertin, vougeot, chambolle-musginy, and all the other great domaines that make me salivate.
    can’t wait for the next episode!

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