Pinot Gris A Grape We Should All Be Drinking

Pinot Gris A Grape We Should All Be Drinking – Episode #247

June 1, 2007

Gary Vaynerchuk tastes 4 wonderful, or not so wonderful Pinot Gris today and asks if you have had any and if so what you think.

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Wines tasted in this episode:

2005 Nyakas Pinot GrisHungarian Other White Wine
2006 Benton Lane Pinot GrisOregon Pinot Gris
2005 Mac Murray Ranch Pinot GrisSonoma Pinot Gris/Grigio/Blanc
2006 Huia Pinot GrisNew Zealand Pinot Gris

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213 Responses

June 1, 2007

Rob B.
FIRST????
QOTD: not much of an artist.
June 1, 2007

patrill
Awesome! We all need to drink more Pinot Gris! mmmmm…. cloves.

QOTD: skulls, spiderwebs, and fat people. truly.

I would love to see you try a wine from Temecula, California.
June 1, 2007

DrEdwardo
3rd. Now to watch the episode.

Edwardo
June 1, 2007

Grasshopper
Sensei,

Congrats on the ABC News article….

everyone…check it out!!!

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/FunMoney/story?id=3234793&page=1

Grasshopper
June 1, 2007

vibemore
QOTD: I grew up in Iowa so we all had to do our own version’s of Grant Wood’s (an artist from Iowa) American Gothic.
June 1, 2007

vibemore
version’s?
I mean version
June 1, 2007

jorge
No Pinot Gris from Alsace? I protest! Those are the only ones for me.
June 1, 2007

waibeans
nice.. i have an austrian pinot gris waiting to be drunk. this will be a good intro to the flavors.
June 1, 2007

Karl Laczko
Yay, Hungarian wine! Boo, it sucked (sort of)!
June 1, 2007

Ben N.
Early again today. I like pinot gris there good daring the summer.
June 1, 2007

SP
QOTD: Wine bottles, haha, j/k…
June 1, 2007

Shad
Lurker….first posting….had a Pinot Gris from Buena Vista in Sonoma that didn’t seem to be posing as Chardonnay, but I’m a relative novice so what do I know.

QOTD-4X4 Trucks..good times
June 1, 2007

MrTC
Fairly uninteresting grape still made interesting – though in the end it turns out the wines *are* uninteresting after all. Off to Sicily for a week, watching forward to watching ‘episode 12′ when I’m back! Very much wondering how you’ll hold out…
June 1, 2007

MrTC
Oh forgot the QOTD: penguins! No further comment …
June 1, 2007

Karl Laczko
QOTD – didn’t, my drawing sucks more than that Magyar Pinot Gris, much better with words.

Oh, and England have just scored againt Brazil, John Terry, 68th minute free kick. (Real) Football rules!
June 1, 2007

Autoproxy
I prefer the Benton Lane Pinot Noir, personally.

QOTD: I wasn’t much of a drawer…just a dreamer. Still true.
June 1, 2007

Matt the Lurker
This is as close as I will ever be to first.
June 1, 2007

Andy
QOTD: I used to draw policemen, soldiers, cowboys, athletes, planes, cars, and ships, I could never draw worth a damn. I probably figured that out around age 7. When they made me draw after that, I stuck to Jackson Pollock-esque abstract stuff.
June 1, 2007

Ken B.
Gary,

Enjoyed the show as always. QOTD: I drew a very poor apple in kindergarten and was traumatized that my classmates made fun of it.

I will definitely give Pinot Gris a try. My wife is a white wine fan, but I need to expand my mind a little in terms of white wine. I am definitely tired of mediocre Chardonnay.

Thanks for the info.

Ken B.
June 1, 2007

lifestooshort
Pinot G: Can’t remember my last one, to be completely honest, but will indulge this w.e. Also, re: the ABC News thang, we need to let folks know what’s up here at WLTV that it’s not just cat pee and big league chew (although there is that!). Anyway, I’m heading over to set ‘em straight! They didn’t say anything about WL and how it was trailblazing in Internet wine sales. I have to say, I thought the piece was a little like a $20 bottle of sterling cab: okay for what it is, but disjointed, uneven, and a bit heated. It’s like: “YEAH. He’s the BAD BOY of the wine world!!” And yeah, he is, but he’s also a market-savvy oenophile business dude who knows his stuff. But the dirt and Cristal chaser is more salacious and sells, guess. Okay, dirt and Cristal as a chaser does pretty much *rock*…
June 1, 2007

3dvw
QOTD: interestingly enough I didn’t draw much in childhood I picked it up much later.
June 1, 2007

geespot
Love the gris. QOD: I drew a lot of geometric shapes, 3-d stuff, little skill, lots of ink.
June 1, 2007

John Blue Label
GV,
Lot of passes today. Oh well, will wait for the Pinot Grigio episode.
QOTD: “Rockets, I want plenty of Rockets”.
BTW, what TV show is this line from, and who said it.
June 1, 2007

Elliot Essman
In class, as a kid, I drew jets. Now don’t get too excited; I mean the kind that fly and shoot at other jets.

An excellent insight on the Pinot Gris trying to be Chardonnay. Keep unmasking those impostors.
June 1, 2007

Tom (vtjones)
QOTD: I drew ever expanding geometric patterns on my notes in class. In later years if I was REAL bored I would write out lyrics to songs like “Hotel California”.

I would not mind some shows to be about wines you recommend. Maybe you could keep it to 1 a month or 1 a quarter as you could do more wines in one of those episodes.
June 1, 2007

MannyPants
Nice show. Big fan of Van Duzer Gris from Oregon. QOTD: boobs
June 1, 2007

BWicked
Pinot Gris tends to be off my radar for the following reasons:
My mind associates it with generic Pinio Grigios.
I have found it to be unpredictable/unexciting at
times and do not want to take a chance.
However, the 2005 Epiphany -Goodchild Vineyard from Santa Maria Valley
was quite good–I gave away much at Christmas and it was enjoyed by all.
Thanks again GV.
June 1, 2007

DougieFresh
Gary,

Good News or Bad News… maybe both.

My divorce is finalized June 21.

So…I plan on going somewhere in the world that weekend and experience some new wines.

QUESTION OF THE DAY… I can get you a Delta Buddy Pass to fly anywhere in the world almost, in Business Class Elite for under 300 bones round trip. Would you want to take a loyal viewer on a wine weekend expo?
June 1, 2007

Karl Laczko
I have an Italian Pinot Grigio ready to open, it Sudtirol so I’m expecting more Pinto Gris characteristics (semantically speaking) – hopefully no cauliflower in that one.

â€œRockets, I want plenty of Rocketsâ€. MASH.

And Brazil have equalised in the dying minutes to bring it to a disappointing 1-1 draw, we was robbed!
June 1, 2007

thabeav
I’ve never had a good pinot gris, but have tried about ten. I still have my doubts after this episode.

QOTD: helicopters – remeber airwolf? You know you watched it.

Suggestion: you’re looking a little tired already. Next time you tape a bunch of shows, NO SPITTING. Episode 12, “Gary Falls out of His Chair” and episode 14 “Gary Pukes in the Spit Bucket” will be new classics.
June 1, 2007

JC
Sorry, but I’d rather have a Corona than a pinot gris. Race cars …
June 1, 2007

TagWorld Brian
Gary, great QOTD. I used to doodle incessantly during class, especially around 2nd grade (that would have been about 1977 or 1978?). I always doodled the floating cities from those Boston album covers. And Star Wars stuff like the Death Star and light sabers. Junk like that. Oh yeah, and cartoon characters and anything that sort of looked 3D was cool, especially writing out names and words in 3D.
June 1, 2007

Jon K
QOTD: I tried to fill every inch with ink.
June 1, 2007

Jeffrey
quotd: does random lines on a wall with crayon count?
June 1, 2007

DougieFresh
Favorite Italian dish…

Pasta with jumbo prawns and sea scallops with a Fra Diavolo sauce….yummmmmy!
June 1, 2007

Penguin
I would draw googily eye monsters on landscapes. And then we would draw heavily fortified military bases on hills with giant cannons.
Couldn’t ignore it…sorry.
I would say keep doing new wines unless there is something absolutely amazing that you’ve had that you have to let us know about….under $10 of course *laugh*
June 1, 2007

Shadowbird
QOTD: Fractals. Nothing naughty.
June 1, 2007

damon
huge!! nod to the redheads. I have one of my very own.
no…not skinny and tall for redheads. gotta be curvy!!
June 1, 2007

Neil
QOTD: Portraits of Jerry Garcia. His art shows up in galleries, on ties and even bottles of wine from Clos Du Bois, he is a Ben & Jerry’s ice cream flavor and oh, yeh, was a pretty good musician too.
June 1, 2007

Jonathon M Chicago
QOTD: Anotomically correct body parts.
June 1, 2007

DougieFresh
QTOD: I drew the old skool thanksgiving turkey using my hand as a template… oh yeah!
June 1, 2007

Chris George
Thanks for the PGris show Gary, bring on the Alsace (and the Marsanne please)!
QOTD: my name on my desk ( kind of stupid as it’s hard to plead innocence)

PS for Karl Laczko: we were, as you say, robbed but looked more like a team (and that was without Rooney!)
June 1, 2007

Randy B
Pinot Gris…pazzzz.
QOTD: Pre-Vietnam war baby boomers thought military planes and tanks were cool. These drawing endured until early teens when all we drew were cars.

SF Party Rocked!!! Kudos to Brandon and Ken for coordinating. GV a lot of girls came up to me and said they thought you were better looking in person than on the screen. Or did they say I was better looking? Can’t remember.
June 1, 2007

italianwinelover
I use to write my name backwards…and one time I wrote a whole letter to my girlfriend..she cheated though held it up to a mirror!!!
pass on the Pinot Gris….thanks for the info!
June 1, 2007

wolfie
i always just drew lines and circles and shapes that intersected. i can’t draw actual ‘things’ for the life of me.
June 1, 2007

maggiej
QOTD: loved to doodle, usually did faces and dogs, plus the “see-through cube”

Hmmmm…not too excited to try a lot of pinot gris if acidity is a big player.
June 1, 2007

CindyW
QOTD: horses, me riding horses, horses against landscapes (yes, I was a pony-crazed little girl). Then I went through my cubist period and everything became abstract and angular.

Good episode, Gary. I’m glad you taped a bunch for us, so we don’t have to go for too long without a fun review!
June 1, 2007

David M
I drew rainbows in kindergarten. They mean nothing to me now though.

Gary, you didn’t taste any butter in the Pinot Gris?
June 1, 2007

wm mole
Thanks for Pinot Gris ep, more great info Gary. Congrats on the ABC bit also That is so freakin funny I laugh just thinking about it. You are the real deal!
QOTD:I used to be part of a 6th grade AM paperboy delivery “gang” and once drew a series of bicycle stunts and tricks we used to pull or imagined doing. My teacher busted me for that so I switched to “an island in the ocean with a palm tree on it”. By the way, what did you draw?
June 1, 2007

PhilB
I join the protest against the fact that Alsace was not represented in the tasting!! Although I must say I never thought PG could be “crisp, acidic and light” when for me it is a fuller bodied, honeyed and rich wine… My most memorable bottle was Zind Humbrecht Herrenweg de Turckheim 1997, awesome stuff!!

QOTD: Golf course layouts!
June 1, 2007

jett
gv——- i drew a blank. jett
June 1, 2007

wm mole
Almost forgot, we also got pretty good at drawing a hand with the middle finger extended. Did anyone else or everyone else do this?
June 1, 2007

Elver
Here’s a request. There’s a bunch of cheap ($6) Romanian wines available here in Estonia. The brand name is “Dreamer”. And for $6, they’re pretty good. In fact, the Dreamer Premiere Harvest Pinot Noir is the only pinot noir you’ll find at a regular supermarket here. That’s also *the* wine that made me appreciate wines in the first place. (I have a 2003 bottle on my shelf here right now.)

So if you could do an episode on the Dreamer brand of wines, or just Romanian wines in general, that would be great. I’d love to see what you think of them.
June 1, 2007

mike m
Enough with the whites already,sheeeesh!!!
June 1, 2007

Randy B
Did any of you ever waste an entire pad of paper drawing a stick man walking across the bottom edge of the paper?
June 1, 2007

Kevin
QOTD: I drew mushrooms…
June 1, 2007

E
89 = prime!

No Alsace? First PG I ever had, long ago, was a Zind-Humbrecht from Alsace which was, indeed, crisp acidic and light … and then I cracked open the very same bottle several years later and wonderful things had happened.

QOD: bah, I can’t draw. But that’s why the Xerox machine is our friend.
June 1, 2007

Keith
No longer a lurker am I !!!!!!!

Love the show. I put it on my iPod and watch it during the commute on the way home. It gets me in the mood to try something in my cellar.

Keep up the good work, a little bit of everyone really adds up.
June 1, 2007

half century
i’m excited! looking for some new summer juice
June 1, 2007

CraigV
Ah, Pinot Gris, probably my favorite white wine. To me, most Pinot Gris have a tootie-fruity like aroma, almost like bubble gum. And that leads me to the QOTD:

When I was a kid I drew cartoon-like monsters in school, imitating some pictures on bubble gum collecting cards, available back in the mid-60s, that featured comical fantasy monsters. Wonder if that is why I like the bouquet of Pinot Gris now ??
June 1, 2007

Marc
QOTD: Weird, abstract doodles. Sometimes curvy lines, sometimes jagged, depending on my mood I guess. But nothing ever took real form.
June 1, 2007

goldencoop
I tasted this wine last week and couldn’t agree with you more. I liked it, but it really came up short. BTW, couldn’t place the mustard, but I think you’re right, still not sure. Definitely a strange combo of mellon and something….good, crips pretty clean, but not 90+

qotd – stick figures and geometric shapes. cant do anything else.
June 1, 2007

goldencoop
btw, talking about the mac murray ranch. sorry.
June 1, 2007

half century
QOTD; a detailed map of my secret south american hideway fortress.
oh and my fav redhead; Jill St. John in Diamonds are Forever The 1971 version.
i’m not excited about pinot gris anymore.
June 1, 2007

KAllardNYC
Qotd: I am with GV, I drew Bart Simpson. Those shorts on The Tracey Ulman Show pwned!
June 1, 2007

FTboomer
My 0.02 cents. Just because you told me I had to. Nothing to say other than that. Can’t wait to see theloopy Gary show up. Have a great vacation.
June 1, 2007

C.W. Miller IV
@Gary V. – You know I love the show and I watch it religiously but – man – can you please open up a thesaurus and look-up “intriguing”; you use that word so much it’s stating to loose all of its meaning. Seriously! Let’s look for some alternatives, huh?

A(nswer)otD: I drew dragons and skulls on my desk all the time. I don’t know how many times I got busted for that. You’d think I’d learn my lesson, but no…
June 1, 2007

t_moderne
Nice shirt. Have I seen it before?
Just bustin’…..
The Pinot Gris are drinking better for the hot weather than those pinkies (Rose wines) you served up a few days ago.
June 1, 2007

Tommy Mack
QOTD I drew football helmets with my colored pencil set.
June 1, 2007

KenP
QOTD: Like Randy B above, I drew Army men in pitched battles, planes dropping bombs. On occasion I’d try to draw a bunny or a hornet. Couldn’t….
June 1, 2007

Kathleen Lisson
Gary,
I drew flowers. Little daisies everywhere. And bunnies.
Thanks for the pinot gris episode.

I always agree with those ABC (anything but Chardonnay) people, and tell them I also have a blanket predjudice for all versions of that varietal, instead enjoying a nice glass of Klevner, Feinburgunder or Morillon.

I guess one COULD do about 3 minutes of stand up comedy on that. I’d be laughing!
Kathy
June 1, 2007

flavasauce
QOTD: Wine glasses! Oh and spirals and funny faces too. When I was really young I tried to draw unicorns but they sucked so I gave up.
June 1, 2007

cruster
Maybe it’s weird, but one of the aspects I’m getting in most of Pinot Gris is “bread crust”. Not that american-style white sliced sandwich, which they do call bread, but good-old european bread (e.g. http://www.marions-kochbuch.com/food-pic/black-forest-country-bread.jpg). Am I the only one getting such an aspect?
June 1, 2007

Jen
Magnificent performance with that Grey Poupon skit. Bravo!
QOTD: I remember drawing Smurfs and rainbows.
June 1, 2007

Ms.Sandra
QOTD: whoever is sitting around me
June 1, 2007

ScottL
Not a lot to get excited about today. I will anxiously await the Alsace episode.

QOTD: Mostly stick people, I played a lot of “Hangman”
June 1, 2007

RuralTom
Greeting Mr V!

95 year old grandma? Now I’m shriveling up…

QOTD: lots of semi-abstract patterns- think a a thirteen year old non-artist drawing celtic knotwork
June 1, 2007

Cam
QOTD: I always drew people, particularly faces. It’s still what I’m best at drawing.
June 1, 2007

rvc
Not a big PG fan but it is good to be diverse, that’s what keeps the show fresh, I did enjoy the grey poupon skit!

QOTD-3D houses and boxes and many stick figures as well as cars, lots of cars!! Also I would draw the Flyers logo on everything, I am as big a phila flyers fan as you are a Jets fan!!
June 1, 2007

Kent Benson
Nice show, Gary. Forgive me for getting all nitpicky, technical, and wine-geeky on you, but… Pinot Gris isn’t really a clone of Pinot Noir, it is a mutation. A clone is a replica produced from cuttings or buds. So, a clone of Pinot Noir, can only be Pinot Noir. A mutation is something that happens spontaneously and usually naturally (it can be done in the lab). Typically, grape mutations involve red grapes losing the color of their skins, like Pinot Noir to Pinot Gris and Pinot Blanc. I’m currently studying for the Certified Specialist of Wine exam, so this stuff is just oozing out of my head, sorry.

QOTD: dragsters, planes, spaceships, classmates

Kathy: We need to talk. If you have a minute, visit my website and send me an email. Thanks.
June 1, 2007

yowens
QOTD: I drew steelers logos. my girlfriend (Tara) says she drew colorful fish.
June 1, 2007

Jeff
QOTD: In class? how about now? I draw in boring meetings all the time. I usually draw my Starbucks cup.
June 1, 2007

Jon B.
Great episiode QOTD…I drew this little fly character I came up with that was pretty much all wings and nose,I also liked to draw people with afros hmmmmm who knows??? Hope your enjoying your trip.
June 1, 2007

Bossman
GV,

What’s the deal with only the right sleeve rolled up? Showing off the wristband or is it all the heavy lifting taping multiple shows?

Cork’d is screwed (pun intended) registered yesterday still waiting for my validation email. Tried to reregister and both the username and email are already in use (presumably by me albeit sans validation).

QOTD – blood, if you’re going to do something commit fully.
June 1, 2007

JoeinLA
Way to hang in through the Marathon taping….!

QOTD Dinosaurs…

My thought is a format similar to what usually goes on on WLTV…Selecting a group of wines beginning with lower price point and going up…maybe 3-4 wines per episode, one at under $10, the under $20ish then 25-40, then over 40…and tasting them.Covers different budgets and tastes and gives people who normally shop under $10 for a bottle something to shoot for within the same varietal.(I’m STILL reeling from the two buck chuck episode. How painful!!!)

Thanks to Grasshopper for the ABC link. Congratulations once again GV!
June 1, 2007

mas
I’ll wait for the Alsace episode.

QOTD: Dogs.
June 1, 2007

BV
QOTD: Boxes, stick figures, nothing. I couldn’t draw well, so I didn’t like doing it.

When I was in Kindergarten, I heard we were going to be drawing little umbrellas, so I told the Principal I was sick, ran home and crawled in bed with the dog. 5 years old.

Next question, please!!

Bill V.
June 1, 2007

Halden
Bought my first bottle of Pinot Grigio Today but have not cracked it yet.

QOTD: I tended to draw stars, stickmen and many Anarchy symbols in High School
June 1, 2007

RieslingRon
Another enjoyable episode…….

Other than Pinot Grigio, Italy has some rather interesting whites with the like of Frascati, Gavi, Orvieto, etc. How about giving them a whirl.

QOTD: Abstract groupings of squares and rectangles in various patterns.
June 1, 2007

amgryger
qotd: I was a weird kid. I drew castles, but somehow I’m now getting paid to draw, well not castles, but other kinds of buidlings. Geuss I can’t complain really.
June 1, 2007

J Crazy
Pinot Gris, gotta love it.
QOTD: For some reason I always would draw a guy and a worm on a railway track in front of a tunnel with the light of the train coming at him and his little buddy, whom I always drew quite large.
June 1, 2007

Martijn
QOTD: Airplanes, rolling hills and clouds …. try to figure that one out. I like redheads too by the way, very sexy!
June 1, 2007

Dave Canada
Guilty as charged…I have not had a Pinot Gris….only Pinot Grigio.
QOTD#1 – I think you should mix in some shows on what you are drinking, just my 2cents
QOTD#2 – I was into buildings and stuff. I remember drawing the great wall of china as a kid for sure.
June 1, 2007

MossyMo
Hilarious! You hate pinot grigio, GV!
June 1, 2007

vivaitalia
QOTD: I always drew spiral graphs in the corners of all my papers. And also I loved drawing little roller coasters. Anyways I loved the episode. You’ve really rekindled my love of white wine here recently. I’ve been purchasing different kinds from all different places and I’ve found a ton of things that I love. The best thing about WLTV is that it’s made me expand my horizons. I had my first spanish duero last night and it was stellar.
June 1, 2007

Jerry
Well here are my two cents worth…

I’ve only had Pinot Grigio. The first time was from a recommended dinner pairing, but either the pairing and/or the wine itself was almost awful. However, I felt that it would pair well with cheese/crackers/etc, and I was pleasantly rewarded on my next try at Pinot Grigio. That’s my preference now.

QOTD: I am so awful at drawing, I feel like I would be wasting ink, lead, and paper; so I rarely drew.
June 1, 2007

tarheel17
Gary, I (among the millions) apprciate all your hard work in taping that marathon of episodes. . .thank you thank you thank you! It is so great to know I have something to look forward to watching every night after a long day at the computer (I don’t consider watching WLTV being ‘at the computer’).
In class I used to doodle geometric shapes that often started with a 5 or 6 pointed star. I was really into hexagons, too. I have no idea where that come from, but I certainly hope it’s not from some sort of anarchistic or satanic-worshipping former life. . .
I’d also like to thank you for encouraging me to seek out white wines more often. I’ve had some really bad experiences (Toasted Head Chardonnay. . .uggh!) but also some great QPRs, even here where it’s hard to find anything not mass-marketed.
Your changing my wine world – Thanks!

Megan
June 1, 2007

dkeck
Gary,

I like how you say ORE-GON, keep trying.

QOTD: Lots of dootle on my pages that looked like stars and stick people movies that you make when you flip pages of a book real fast.
June 1, 2007

Susan
Gary-Thank you for taping eps for us!!!!
QOD: I never got the drawing gene in our family!!!
Music, yes – art, NO!!! I drove all of my art teachers crazy!!!
No talent in this department at all!!!
June 2, 2007

MossyMo
What did I draw as a kid? Imperial Walkers from Empire Strikes Back!
June 2, 2007

Susan
Gary-Still have not tried Pinot Grigio yet… will soon!!!!
June 2, 2007

Susan
Gary- Thanks for educating us in the differences between Pinots!!
Will try Pinot Gris first!!!!
June 2, 2007

Justin S
Wow all those wines looked like they sucked, which has been my experience with Pinot Gris. I’ve gotta find a good one.

My .02; Americans waste too much. Think about it.

QOTD: I drew mostly military stuff and some sharks.
June 2, 2007

randy d
hey gary been watching the show for a few weeks now and love it great job. this is my first post and i have a question i have been seeing this count down and need to know what is it all about.
June 2, 2007

Frank R
Ninja turtles. Mostly Donatello with a little Leonardo on the side.
June 2, 2007

Robin
QOTD: I used to draw pictures of ladies, but the pictures were very malformed- very tiny waists-I remember that I knew they were off, but I couldn’t make them right. I took some drawing classes but the instructor just said that I had a nice “feel” for art which I think that I correctly interpreted as don’t give up my day job.
I once had a pinot gris that I liked, but I can’t remember what it was. Maybe I should be taking notes.
June 2, 2007

wm mole
Just read SF party notes. You guys rocked and did it right! Wine 2.0 looked way cool. jets jets jets go jets, go buy jets
June 2, 2007

kevin
great show show Gary, I like that you are often tasting the wines for the first time rather than recommending under 10 dollar blah blah wines. QOTD Snoopy, and daggers
June 2, 2007

H-Why
OR – E – (going, going…) GONE!

QOTD: Music notes and birds. No idea why the birds.

As far as the fence goes, I like the exploration most of the time, but perhaps 2 times per month, I want to know what is QPR city. Although, focus on the $12 since it is the new $10.

Actually, I’d love to see an insanity episode with steals for $7…
June 2, 2007

Mason
Only tried one Pinot Grigio from Oregon, from Luna Vineyards. Liked it quite a lot, but I tend to overlook Gris as an option when buying whites.

QOTD: Star Wars vehicles/ships, cartoon characters, knives, guns, and jet planes. Adventure, I craved… (Yoda speak)
June 2, 2007

ktw
are we allowed to answer the QOD the way we hoped you would answer it? i hope you would say “wine bottles” – not in a weird wino way but more of a max fisher (rushmore reference) child genius kind of way.
June 2, 2007

Matt Czinger
Nice camera resolution, new one?

My favorite nose-in-the-air-at-the-alternative-name thing (e.g., pinot grigio vs pinot gris) is the fact that no one would eat a patagonian toothfish, but Chilean Sea-bass garners a big price-tag.
June 2, 2007

YoungDave
QOTD: I was never much of a doodler, but was quite a note-passing guy. Always trying to make friends crack up by writing a joke about something the teacher said or the way they looked. OH- and a shout out to a recent episode when you mentioned the infamous “do you like___? Circle one- YES, NO”. I was ALWAYS drawing the “MAYBE” box like it was my JOB! Kudos, BIG G.
June 2, 2007

Darlene O.
Hey, Gary, as always, great episode! QOD: What did I draw in class? Attention!! (Hahaha!)
June 2, 2007

Steve-o
QOTD: Damn, I have notebooks absolutely filled, cover to cover with all sorts of stuff. Obviously there are the requisite dragons, demons, sea-monsters and weapons of mass destruction, but I also used to draw massive, intricate mazes and some pretty sweet rube-goldberg devices.

Oh and I would draw extremely gory comic strips about things I would do to get out of class…hehehe.

Rock on, G-Man. Hope the trip is going well!
June 2, 2007

TSchampaert
Don’t forget the Auxerrois from Luxemburg and certainly don’t forget Grauburgunder from Germany when you do a next Pinot Gris ep! I’ve had some fabulous Grauburgunders (even spÃ¤tleses and TBA’s) from Germany.
QOTD: What did I draw? I went completely nuts on dinosaurs, so I still have piles of dinosaur drawings all over my place!
C ya,
t.
June 2, 2007

gatormha
QOTD: New England Patriots logos, of course!
June 2, 2007

countnocount
To be honest, New World pinot gris is about as far down on my try-list as it can possibly be, but I might have to give the Benton Lane the proverbial “whirl.”

QOTD: Heavily armored guys wielding swords or battle axes. (I freely admit, at the age of 12, I was a DnD geek.) A few years later, pornography.
June 2, 2007

MikeyB
QOTD: martians
June 2, 2007

Robert F
Loooooooove the redheads! Not sure about non-Alsacian pinot gris though. Once I opened my girlfriend’s parents’ fridge and found a half empty bottle of “pink pinot grigio”. It was terrifying.

QOTD: Ren and Stimpy, and spaceships. Or Ren and Stimpy IN a space ship (best episode ever). MMMMM space cabbage (that should be a tasting note)
June 2, 2007

Herm
My wife said she drew small circles like grapes in a bunch….I usually drew airplanes or ships….is this like a Rorschach test? Thanks for the Pinot Gris episode….I tried a New Zealand sauvignon blanc last night and it was good….
June 2, 2007

Steve Carter
QOTD: Hordes of dancing stick men
June 2, 2007

Jennifer
QOTD: Butterflies. I wasn’t very good at drawing, but a couple of wavy things on the side, tenticles and a smiley face, and voila. The Happy Butterfly.
June 2, 2007

SoCal
G,
Yea all caught up!
QOTD: What did I draw in class? Thanks to my behavior I always “drew” detention slips.
June 2, 2007

Nathan Woodhouse
QOTD: Stick men with elaborate heads.

I used to drink nothing but reds, but last summer and recently I’ve bit hitting the whites. I love them, and it’s nice to drink seasonally. Nice episode; I’ll definitely be seeking out the Pinot Gris. How about an episode on non Pinot Grigio whites from Italy? Inzolia, Soave, Arneis, Vernaccia di San Gimignano, Verdicchio, Grillo…so many to choose from.
June 2, 2007

Tariq Amjad
Gary and Winelibrary team,

I don’t know if its possible, because of its ridiculous prices, I would love to see an episode on California Cult wines- Hundred Acre, Colgin, Harlan, Screaming Eagle, Alban, etc.

Also episode on Killer California Pinot Noirs (very hard to get as most of it stays in California)- Kosta Browne, Kistler, Merry Edwards, Martinellis, Patz and Hall, Marcassin, etc.
June 2, 2007

MC Dubs
I’m thinking about picking up some Joseph Kaetzel Pinot Gris for a rooftop/”garden” party this evening. Any thoughts from the pinot gallery?
June 2, 2007

Montrose
Thanks for the pinot gris episode. I am a huge fan of Alsacation pinot gris, but have not yet found one from elsewhere I to get really excited over.

QOTD: I wrote words that memorialized the subject of that dayâ€™s lecture, allowing me to revisit the lecture when necessary.
June 2, 2007

caleb
GV Thanks for throwing out all the red head love this episode, although we are a little pale, we are way more complex and ridiculously zoolanderishly good looking as compared to a pinot gris. Thanks for everything on thursday! Hope 2.0 went great. Qotd-Mountain scenes
June 2, 2007

TimF
Drink no gris, pee no gris.

1st wine sounds like stir-fried-crap.

Are they trying to make the second wine easy to send in the mail?

Oregun Pinot Gris = Conan O’Brien

I think Oregun has done more since 1969 than the Jets though…

I LOVE mustard on my melon!

I’ve had that MacMurray and wasn’t very impressed.

Isn’t ‘Huia’ what guys in the Marine Corps say?

STOP SAYING GOOSENBERRY.

You eat a lot of hay?

QOTD: Lots of stuff. I even took art in college. My final project was a pencil drawing of Fort Ouiatenon in West Lafayette, IN.
June 2, 2007

Justmarsh
Gary,

I totally agree that the 05 Macmurray Pinot Gris was underwhelming. I do think however that the 04 was really good. I bought the 05 and was completely disappointed.

Is Benton Lane really one of your fav producers???? I tried their current offering of Pinot Noir and it was pretty bad.
June 2, 2007

David M Roberts
QOTD: Would play a game with a pal wherein we’d begin with one random sketch (let’s say a gladiator with a sword), and then the next person would have to draw something to counter that, (like a raincloud over the gladiator that would then rust his sword); my friend might counter that by drawing a fan to push the raincloud away, and it would go on and on… kind of an exercise in cause and effect creativity. A lot of fun in fifth grade. Maybe even now during business seminars?

Every Hungarian wine I’ve had has been too sweet, but the Nyakas seemed intriguing. Of course, if I try it and it sucks, I’ll have to counter it with a sketch of a good Paso Robles zin.
June 2, 2007

Bettina
test comment
June 2, 2007

t_moderne
Great wine to cover. Oregon Pinot Gris are wonderful summer wines.
How about tasting Vinho Verde next. The color of the wines match your shirt!

after my comments – you may want to have me going back to being a lurker.
Just kidding.
June 2, 2007

cgf
Good job marathon man.

QOTD: i could not draw if my life depended on it. i was a nerd and took notes in class, or did my homework so i could play as soon as i got home.
June 2, 2007

Aaronious
Hey guy, I was raised in Oregon and a huge fan of Pinot grapes. Lemme help u out tho bro — it is Ore-ee-guhn. Much love!
June 2, 2007

Susan B
Houses with lots of pretty flowers lined up outside.

I second Patrill’s request – would love to see you try something from Temecula CA wine country!
June 2, 2007

Bettina
gary – great show. bennett lane looks like winner. we’re headed to willamette for a vineyard sourcing trip in a month so will have to search it out for some fun summer slurping.

i drew –> cars, big boats… why, i don’t know…
June 2, 2007

Pete
Agreed on the “richness” of the MacMurray Pinot Gris, but still a fabulous drink!
June 2, 2007

Bart F
Thanks for the .edu on Pinot Gris!
June 2, 2007

Winodontist
I think Pinot Gris/Grigio might just be too acidic for my liking, but I’ll keep trying.

Best Redhead: Angie Everhart, hot supermodel.

QOTD: Some spaceship from a cartoon I used to watch, but it’s killing me because I can’t remember the name.
June 2, 2007

Doc Dan
Good job GV! Have not had a Pinot Gris believe it or not, but will try one soon.
QOTD: Spiderman and monstertrucks
June 2, 2007

Martin
sportscars & guitars
June 2, 2007

jason carey
now its time for some serious Alsatian Pinot Gris’ episode!!!!
June 2, 2007

llama81
favorite in-class sketch was the phish logo – http://www.djouls.com/phish/images/phishlogo.gif
June 2, 2007

john maki
QOD: a lot of little boys drew military scenes with planes and bombs dropping and tanks and stickmen – whole battlefields (in the 50’s).
Was this the cold war mentality? Haven’t thought of that in 50 years!

Gary: just something to add (just one little voice) to your comment list.
john -
June 2, 2007

Bossman
Cork’d fine now, validation email found in spam filter.

The nerve of Yahoo to relegate a GV associated email/site with the penis enlargers, Viagra and lottery emails form small African nations! Well, I never!
June 2, 2007

Wine Lush
Awesome episode! Nice to see the variety.

QOTD: I didn’t draw in class, I was too busy passing notes in class telling boys whether or not I would “go steady” with them. And notes to the girls about what we should wear to the roller rink on Saturday night if I was able to sneak out of my room. I was a little (coughing) underage.
June 2, 2007

MaryS
QOTD: Teddy Bears, hearts, stars and VH!
June 2, 2007

Joseph M. Kennedy
QOTD: Dinosaurs, cars, and stuff. Though, I just graduated from art school last month, so you can see what I was drawing on my website.

I was wondering if there was a place in Los Angeles that someone could recommend to go to and learn more. I’m still new to the wine world.
June 2, 2007

sweaver
I finally caught up with the current episode. I first learned about WLTV when you did the Diggnation episode and Kevin & Alex mentioned it but I was behind on watching the Diggnation episodes so by the time I subscribed to WLTV, I was like 8-10 episodes behind.

Newbie questions that you may have already addressed:
Do you make any effort to control the temperature of the wines you are tasting? If so, what are your target temps. for white vs. red? Do you use different temps. for different varietals?

I have seen several different types of stemware with no particular pattern to when they appear. Do you feel the stemware has any influence on the taste of the wine?

Minor nit: I watch the shows in iTunes so your habit of pointing to links that arenâ€™t there is a little annoying. Do you expect everyone to watch on the website? Do you have any stats on the number of website watchers vs. RSS feed watchers?
June 2, 2007

Chriswalkenrules
I drew pictures of baseballs and boobies. Nice episode Vaynerchuk! Profound, intriguing!!
June 2, 2007

ChrisR
QOD: I had aspirations of becoming an art major so I had some pretty profound doodles…some abstract tonal puzzle piece expressions, portraits, caricactures and nature sketches.
June 2, 2007

ecola
QOTD: I didn’t draw too much, but my lovely fiancee drew eyes, ponies, and people doing gymnastics(she actually was an art major.)
June 2, 2007

Crouch
QOTD: I spent a significant amount of time trying to replicate the graphics from various H-Street skateboards.
June 3, 2007

Chef Paul
I love bearing all…my wife, the art psychotherapist, told me after nine years of marriage (which was the first time she had ever seen the artwork I drew as a child) that she would have never married me had she seen it previously. What can I say? I was the youngest of eight Catholic children, which gives me TWO things to work out for the rest of my life.

On a side note, we serve MacMurray wines at work, and I am not only heartily impressed by their efforts compared to price point (PQR), but I was a huge fan of My Three Sons in my younger years.
June 3, 2007

radarmatt
very detailed drawings of battles from the Civil War. Yeah, I know… it’s weird. Deal with it.
June 3, 2007

Mike Erdely
My family is from Hungary (my dad was born there). I’m really interested in trying the Nyakas, even though it didn’t get the best review. It was funny that I was thinking about trying it out because of my dad even before you mentioned “trying your heritage”.

QOTD: I guess I drew what all kids drew: a small house with too big stick figure family members and a sun that was so close it would incinerate the Earth. I liked to draw cars, too.
June 3, 2007

Jimmy B
QOTD: I drew Buck Rogers spaceships, the lunar lander and moon craters mainly, tried to perfect the LA Rams helmet until the N.O. Saints came into the picture, then it was fleur de lis. Oh – did I just date myself???

Now I’ll have to go out and get a Pinot Gris to wash my sorrow away.
June 3, 2007

Martin Trautmann
when i was “small” I drew fire engines…

ps. great episode, i’d be really interested in knowing, what regulations are imposed on wine in different countries, such as e.g. mixing wines, adding sugar or other additives etc.
June 3, 2007

MikeBro
It’s two cent time from a lurker, nice episode on Pinot Gris. Love your enthusiastic energy, gets me all excited about wines.

While watching the episode on the Oregon Pinot it reminded me about a bottle I received from a friend years ago. Went to the basement to see if it was still there and low an behold I found it. Guess what, it was a Oregon 2000 vintage Pinot Gris from King Estate.

Later in the day a friend and I opened it, I’d have to say I was a little wary about drinking an older white wine but it really wasn’t that bad, it had a real smooth aged finish.

My quotes on this will be posted on Cork’d.

My question to you Gary is how long should a Vayniac age a white wine before it goes to that wine heaven in the sky? Or in my case, in that barrel of other bad wine to go through my distiller.

QOTD: Deer and other game, but mostly antlered deer. What’s amazing about that is I still have the pictures from grade school.. 40 YEARS AGO WOW!

Have fun on your journeys, can’t wait to here all your stories..

MB
June 3, 2007

MossyMo
“NO I dont hate PG, just bad PG which is 90%” Sorry, GV. I thought I heard you say some rather scathing remarks in another WLTV episode regarding PG. Anyway, have fun in Sam fran and Greece! Later…
June 3, 2007

portman
Yes, please do a pinot grigio episode as quickly as you can. It will be great to compare this episode with the pinot gris vs the episode with the pinot grigio. New world vs old world?

QOTD: Peanuts charactors and the starship Enterprise.

Mike
June 3, 2007

haz008
QOTD: Do you remember Pee Chee folders? If you didn’t grow up west of the Mississippi (or even wester) you probably don’t but I mostly corrupted the jocks on my Pee Chee folders, i.e. gave them mohawks or had the defender stabbing the guy who was going up for a lay-up. I drew stuff like that.
June 3, 2007

Rempshaker
I love me some Red-Headed Step-chillins…
June 3, 2007

BobMac
I drank my first pinot grigios about ten years ago when my (then) girlfriend’s mother drank them. Can’t drink them anymore because of her.

I drew band logos/names on my Trapper Keeper.
June 3, 2007

Larry
Great episode! Right on with the Benton-Lane Pinot Gris. One of my favorite dry whites when I’m THIRSTY! Great on a hot and humid day with a light meal. When is the Alsace review coming?
June 3, 2007

Rob B.
Great Pinot Gris episode.

I liked to draw stick figures across multiple pages so you could flip them and watch a little cartoon.

You should show one of your Barts on the board to show off your artistic talent.
June 4, 2007

Jim Wilkerson
That Benton Lane sounds right up my alley – love those zingy whites.

QOTD: several doodling phases…
1. swords (D&D dork back then)
2. little skateboarding halfpipe scenes with stick-figure skaters
3. late in h.s. I would draw one continuous sqiggly line that filled the page and never crossed itself.
June 4, 2007

Christine
I think you’re a stud. And I think you need to have your own show on tv. Girls would love it and my guy friends love you too…
June 4, 2007

Ray M.
wow. learned alot. whats the best pinot gris i can buy for under $30??? anyone know??
June 4, 2007

Brendan McGuigan
Great episode. Love the Benton-Lane. Add another request for some Alsacians, though, definitely my favorites. I’m a fan of Navarro Vineyard’s PG as well, although it’s a bit pricey ($18 I think) for what it is for me to drink it too often.

QOTD: I used to draw complex open puzzle rooms for a person to make their way through, with multiple levels. Things like swinging ropes, crocodiles, pit traps, and tools for them to get past certain things. Too much time playing the original Prince of Persia, perhaps? Possibly? Potentially? I also remember liking to draw my hand a lot. I’m not sure why. I think it was one of the only things from life I could ever get to look right, and I remember other people having trouble drawing hands, so I was very proud of that.
June 4, 2007

wm mole
Gary, Have a great vacation, and please stay out of trouble, no “Santorini sucks” t-shirts OK?
June 4, 2007

Rick McQ
Gary:

I used to draw stock Cars from the Fleminton Speedway – Great Show!
June 4, 2007

Rick McQ
Gary:

I used to draw stock Cars from the Flemington Speedway – Great Show!
June 4, 2007

C-BusWineMofo
GV your right about the Benton Lane, the 2005 is really good and most other years are good for there price. Now the Huia, I try to sell a lot of it at the store I work so people can try something new but you are right, the price is way to high. The do make one of the best gewurztraminer outside of Alsace though.

QOTD: I used to draw logos of terrible Punk bands with a marker on my Jansport backpack that I wore over one shoulder, I was the most Punk rock kid that ever went to school in Boca Raton, FL.
June 4, 2007

Orion Slayer
Pinot gris: Now that I know how to pronounce it (I thought it was pee-no griss) I’ll have to give it a taste.

QOTD: First, it’s cool to read what everyone used to draw. I used to draw bug eyed flies, race cars with gigantic engines, 3-d boxes and when I learned about perspective I went crazy with that. I don’t draw well, but we should all draw anyway!
June 4, 2007

MJ the Sommelier
Gary
I know that Pinot Gris is how they say it in Alsace, and Pinot Grigio is how they say it in Trentino. But, last time I checked they still call it Chardonnay in Pouilly-FuissÃ©.
Also, since Alsace is the home of Pinot Gris could you have put in a wine from the homeland?
Drink Great Wine
MJ the Sommelier
June 4, 2007

wayno da wino
Yo Gary,

If ya lookin’ for a good Pinot Gris/Blanc Type
wine. i recommend da Schoffit Pinot Blanc/Auxerrois!!
Had da 2004 da udder day & it was Goooooood!!!
June 4, 2007

daniel blÃ¥
Nice episode, interesting to here some facts on the grapes. How come thereÂ´s no Pinot Gris (pee-no-grr-ee) in Burgundy, or is there?

Sweden beat Denmark 3-0 (qualifications for European Soccer championships 2008)
June 4, 2007

msb2ncsu
QOTD: I didn’t draw as much as I practiced forging signatures (started by learning both my parents’ for days I skipped then moved to celebs). Other than that I would draw random things around me, like backpacks, the pencil sharpener, chalkboard tray with eraser, etc.

Always wondered if Gris = Grigio so was definitely and interesting video to watch.
June 4, 2007

Jim C
Gary,
going to a Greek wine tasting, Can you get some reviews up on Greek wines before the 16th?
June 4, 2007

Billman
Nice show G, I’m going to try to make my way to one of those Oregon pinot gris’ (I’m not a huge fan of stinky feet). Have a nice trip-
June 4, 2007

Lurkerdog
Not much of a drawer. The high point of my artistic career was winning a drawing contest in 2nd grade. I drew an airplane. Since then its been pretty much right brain activity. Good show! Saw the article in the New York magazine. Keep it up.
June 4, 2007

TomP
Gary – the Jets DID change the world in ‘69! Let’s hope they can do it again.
June 4, 2007

Fran Benavidez
I drew lots of houses and trees, and horses, here and there. I knew I’d never be an artist, unless you call drawing stick figures art!
Liked the Pinot Gris episode! Enjoyed Benton Lane myself.
June 4, 2007

Chris
I was a Beatle nut from the time I was 10 so I drew their logo from the early days (think Ringo’s drum kit). In high school I drew the University of Arizona “A” logo, once I knew I wanted to go there.
June 4, 2007

Jay
I used to draw the space shuttle. Don’t know why but I would draw that damn thing all the time. Didn’t like to draw more of a writer but that is the one thing I would draw all the time.
June 4, 2007

DK44
Interesting episode. I admit, I am araid of Pinot Gris because of the Grigio thing. I’ll have to try some tastings.

QOTD – Zip, zero, no artistic talent.
June 4, 2007

Fco.
Thanks for the Gris episode, the wife is certainly gonna appreciate that one. As for the QOTD? Cars, spaceships, superheroes and boobies.
June 5, 2007

barclay loftus
QOTD: Volkswagens. I was a car nut all the way back.
June 5, 2007

Acousticdoc
QOTD: Always use to draw old sailing ships.
June 5, 2007

Ryan D
QOTD: My artistic skills leave something to be desired… like a 3 year old desiring to finally get the legs right on his/her stick figure. So most of my doodles were just that… doodles. Spirals that turned into tornadoes, 5 and 7 point stars, geometric shapes and scratches. I could draw one thing… a furry thing that sort of looked like a tribble crossed with a furby.
June 5, 2007

mcj
QOTD: Elaborate war plans, complete with air, sea and land components
June 6, 2007

wildebeest
Well, I DO like redheads! Yummy!

QOTD: Mostly doodlings built without any form in mind. Every once in a while I’d draw a stick figure sitting on an island and fishing under an appletree.
June 6, 2007

WINO
QOTD- I used to doodle Michael Jordan’s “23″ jersey.
June 6, 2007

Kelldey
Interesting show today. I’m still catching up on eps since I’ve been out of town.

QOTD: I was not an artist by any means, but I loved to draw horses and dogs. I wasn’t into that fru-fru girlie stuff.

Thanks to the shout-out to us redheads!
June 6, 2007

Jeff
Gary, Thanks for taping all these shows before you left. I would’ve understood if there wasn’t one for every day you’re gone but it was awfully nice of you.

QOTD: 3D buildings…only thing I can draw.
June 7, 2007

Russ B
Bart Simpson and the entire Simpson cartoon show in flipbook style
June 7, 2007

Susan
Gary-
Still saying goosenberry?
No such fruit! Gooseberry!
No N in this word!!
I will send you a vocab book soon!!!
June 7, 2007

Thad
Gary- I’m a lurker no more. I’m a newbie to the site and love it. I’ve been going the archives in reverse order.

QOTD: I drew Heavy Metal logos. Twisted Sister was my favorite (my intials!)
June 7, 2007

Tommy
Love the shows. Question: Do you taste all the wines at room temparature? Do you chill the whites and taste the reds at 65 degrees? I have found some whites (Sauvignon Blancs) change flavor as they become more room temp. Thanks for changing my wine world.
June 9, 2007

Kirk
QOTD: What did I draw in class??? Hmm, random nothings that could pass as abstract art today….hmmm. Wonder what it’s worth??? The doodle of someone famous>?
June 10, 2007

Michael H
QOTD: Strangely enough, I doodled and drew pictures of the janitor at our school as a superhero and formed them into comic books. However, we didn’t portray him as a hero, it was more of a stab at him. I had a strange imagination as a kid…
June 12, 2007

aaronT
quick question while I’m still watching this episode: Is it my imagination, or do I see more screw caps on pinot gris and sauvignon blanc than on other varietals? Why have these two seemed to overcome the stigma easier than others?
June 12, 2007

aaronT
used to doodle these huge battle scenes, a la GI Joe, but 50 years in the future. Of course, american flags all over the victors.
June 12, 2007

Veronica
Pinot Gris is my new love. Thanks for this episode. Tonight I tried the Schoffit 2004 Tokay Pinot Gris Colmar – from Alsace. Very beautiful! Had it with hot dogs with the works.
June 20, 2007

JayZee
QOTD: Spaceships and naked women. Don’t even try to figure out what that means.
July 3, 2007

Jak
mitsubishi
January 2, 2008

Aave
Vikings, goths and other warriors… of course.

Very interesting episode!
April 28, 2008

Sarandi
From my understanding, pinot blanc is a derivation of pinot gris (which itself is derived from pinot noir) – is this right? I had a pretty decent Alsatian pinot blanc the other day – not spectacular, but very pleasing. Very banana-ish on the nose. Classic grass/grapefruit/melonish. Good mouthfeel, evident alcohol content but the fruitiness balanced things out really well.

And as a super-late answer to the QOD – PIRATE SHIPS AND NINJA TURTLES, duh.
July 14, 2008

Dessert Wine Nerd
It looks like youre starting to get loopy, Gary. Im going to guess by the time I get the the final of this marathon of tapings youre going to be….. well youx10. No, its a good thing. I like your energy. QOTD: Everything. All of it of poor quality. Lots of 3-d boxes and stick figures. I drew Bill D. Catt a lot as well….. Dont be dissing Bloom County.
June 30, 2009

Phredd
QOTD: Battle scenes. Yep, all-out war, with stick figures and little swoosh marks for the bombs and the bullets. None of my stick figures actually were dead, though. Only the machines got “killed”. At heart, I was always really a pacifist.