Petite Sirah Taste Off – Episode #284

July 30, 2007

Gary Vaynerchuk has been attacked by so many emails to taste Petite Sirah that he has finally caved!

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Wines tasted in this episode:

2004 Trentadue Petite SirahSonoma Petite Sirah
2005 Rosenblum Petite Sirah Heritage ClonesOther California Petite Sirah
2005 Elyse Petite Sirah RutherfordNapa Petite Sirah
2004 Earthquake Petite SirahNapa Petite Sirah

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July 30, 2007

Paul M
oops, forgot to address the score issue in my previous comment…

You have to keep the scores.

As George Burns said in Oh God…
“I could never figure out how to make anything with just one side to it. Ever see a front without a back, a top without a bottom, an up without a down? There can’t be good without bad, life without death, pleasure without pain. That’s how it is. If I take sad away, happy has to go with it.”

There is no good wine without the comparison of bad wine and since terms like “leather” or “poop” or “fruity” or “tart” could be a good or bad thing, then you can not compare them and thus without the scores as a reference the whole world would collapse upon its self and cease to be, human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together – mass hysteria … okay maybe not but you should still keep the scores.
July 30, 2007

BiggRigg
Congrats Gary, the show will be sick

QOTD: definitely staying up to watch Conan, its gonna be wicked awesome.
July 30, 2007

Jen
Gary, you’re my hero. ROCK on Conan – you’re as big a star as I am Show em what you got!!!!
QOTD: I’m going to watch it AND Tivo it AND tell all my friends to do the same…. because YOU…. and a little bit o’ me…… you know what we’re doin’.
July 30, 2007

Grapedigger
Grand episode for a petite Sirah. Good luck with Conan…I heard he’s 6′5” tall!! I’ll give up my beauty sleep and tune in for sure
I think wine scoring is a good idea because one needs a reference to compare with and it’s good for the records. What is blurred is how much different is a 90 pts from an 89 pts wine. Maybe you should say few words on how to define a 90 wine!!

Cheers
July 30, 2007

TROC
Just set the DVR for Conan, have lots of fun, he seems like a great guy. The scores are just part of the fun, I don’t take them that seriously. I have to admit its like judging art, but what the heck, we’re Americans. Sometimes we don’t have to explain American Fun. Tasting notes just don’t do it, we all know what a true 90 plus tastes like and theirs no better way to explain that, than to give it a 90 plus score. That’s my opinion anyway.
July 30, 2007

Taco John
QOTD: Three weeks from now I would say 100% absolutely. But I think I might DVR it because of work early in the morning.
July 30, 2007

Mike
Gary,

ya radilsa v kishineve i sovsem ponimayu o chem tie govorish!

I went back to Kishinev a number of years ago to visit, and certainly developed even more respect for the sacrifices my parents made to bring the family to the US.

That said, the worlds largest underground wine cave (many square kilometers with underground roads, etc.) is in Moldova. If you haven’t been …
July 30, 2007

BillyA
Welcome back Gary!
A huge KUDOS to you for snagging a Conan slot. It will be a huge step forward for both you and Wine Library TV. Unfortunately, I will not see it as I will be catching a 6AM flight to Pennsylvania to visit my daughter in camp. And, of course I’m taking a detour to finally visit your store and play the kid in the candy shop. I hope you’re around and not too busy to acknowledge a humble fan. Great showcase of the Petite Sirah grape. I love it, but have never tried the four you tasted. As for the scores, I use them as guides and nothing more. I use your scores to exclude some and consider others, but beyond that, you have to trust your palate. Again, thanks for all you do.
July 30, 2007

Mudd
Will I be watching live? Are you kidding? Hell yeah, I’ll be watching live! Vaynerchuk on Conan. Forget it. But, please don’t be swayed when he ask you to be the new Andy Richter. It will only lead to a string of bad TV pilots and then voice overs for Nick Jr and Noggin.

And, God Bless Bill Walsh. He helped establish my beloved Bengals as an assistant to Paul Brown in the early 1970’s. Then, he proceeded to beat them down in two of the greatest Super Bowls of all time.

The Bengals chose Bill Johnson to replace Paul Brown in 1976 over Bill Walsh, and their’s still old men in Cincinnati sitting in musty old bars sucking down their J.T.S. Brown thinking, “What could of been?”.

Who Dey!
July 30, 2007

Ben N.
Welcome back.
QOTD: DVR
July 30, 2007

Darlene O.
Great episode, Gary! Welcome back! QOD: I’ll be in Atlanta, will be watching Conan whenever it comes on in Atlanta. HOW COOL IS THIS!!!!! Congrats, Gary! You earned this, deserve it, so ENJOY IT!!!
July 30, 2007

Robin
QOTD: I’m thrilled that you’re on Conan. I tape (I don’t have TiVo-I know tapes are declasse, but perhaps Sir Gary will allow me to wash his Riedels for him sometime anyway) him every night – late for me so I probably won’t watch live. I also tape Charlie Rose – I hope you try to get on his show – I think he’s the best interviewer, and he loves wine.
July 30, 2007

Brendan
Good luck on Conan man, you rock!
July 30, 2007

Alos Diallo
I don’t have a tv so I am sorry I can’t watch it, even so I have a physics 2 exam the next day. Wine Library TV is the only tv I watch, actually. People make fun of me because of it at work but oh well I love the show and think of you as a friend now. Anyhow I am not a fan of scores, but if the wine is total crap for the money I would like to know. Not sure if that is a good answer. Ha will the Conan thing be on youtube or something? I can watch it then. Latter Gary
July 30, 2007

Rupal
Really Cool Gary!!! I will be up watching. Keep the scores, we all have our opinions, but it gives us something to measure against…… Congrats on the Conan Show!!!
July 30, 2007

Tad
I know this isn’t the forum, but please keep the scores. It gives another reference point when you look through the spreadsheet. Often I don’t rush out and buy things, but take a mental note. The scores help me remember which you liked and disliked when I am ready to purchase.

Congrats on Conan.
July 30, 2007

David M Roberts
So glad you did a show on petites – I’m fond of three that you rated: Rosenblum, Elyse (they make amazing zins!) and Earthquake (again, their zin is better).

Congrats on Conan! I’ll be watching “live.” Will be really impressed if one day he has your face on screen with the moving lips and voice over thing he does. You need to request that.

Keep the scores – It’s your own rating, but always intersting to know exactly how a wine hit you. No worries with a numeric assignment; we’ll take the digits with a grain of salt, or plum, or cassis, or whatever…
July 30, 2007

BK
Well first, Congratulations!!!!!!!!!
I’m a huge Conan fan. So excited for you Gary, you deserve it.
(i’ll be setting the DVR…we have a 5 month old at home, so we gotta get that sleep when we can)

Scoring. Well, what exactly IS scoring?
A way to simplify your opinion of the wine.
So, i would say, instead of doing away with scoring, why not…….(drum roll)
INVENT YOUR OWN SCORE!

Movies have thumbs up, thumbs down.
Restaurants have stars.
Parker and the wine world have the 100 point scale (though i can’t remember reading/hearing too many scores under 80 points very frequently).

So how about coming up with your own scoring system or having a contest or poll on what the score should be? Could be as simple as thumbs up/thumbs down…or something more “Gary”.
There’s probably a bazillion pro wrestling terms you could use.

Anyway….
We’re still going to want to know whether you liked a wine or not, and how MUCH!
So keep the scores, but just change em up!
July 30, 2007

t_moderne
QOTD – I don’t know what I will be doing.

I like the Rosenblum Petite Sirah’s – usually with some character – definitely jammy fruit bombs. Sometimes you feel like a nut; sometimes you don’t. Sometimes you want old, dry, woodsy, cigar box and cedar reserved wines; sometimes you want Schmuckers strawberry jam and black pepper with Hershey’s syrup.

Still waiting to see you taste Kirkland wines. Wondering if ya got the corks to do so.
July 30, 2007

Tom (vtjones)
QOTD: I will be sleeping when the show airs so I will be Tivoing it.
July 30, 2007

AppellationMan
Gary: Give up the scores.

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July 30, 2007

Dr. Mike
QOTD: I’m There
July 30, 2007

Chuck D
1. Awesome that you will be on Conan – I’ll set the DVR so I don’t miss it and can watch it again
2. What California wines DO you like? Seems like they are always being treated by you with some level of dissrespect ( like Sir Gary might bring )
3. Have you done an episode with blind tasting & then the big reveal may be interesting ?
July 30, 2007

GottaGoDrink
QOTD- I’m going live with ya!

PS- I like the scores, no real reason, I just like them, and I like when you change them, shows that you take them seriously. Cheers, and ahve agreat time on Conan!
July 30, 2007

TommyBoBo of WI
TIVO X 2 just to make damn sure I get to watch it during wake up time at 5am CST.

You’re awesome!