Lazy Friday With An All Time Favorite

Lazy Friday With An All Time Favorite – Episode #315

September 14, 2007

Gary breaks out of value week in a big way with a 20 year old Bordeaux and a cool story of how it got here.

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Wines tasted in this episode:

1988 Chateau Beausejour BecotSt Emilion

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September 15, 2007

yowens
I really like your message GV. I’ve gone from buying wines by scores in bulk to buying individual bottles for areas I’ve never heard of and grapes I’ve never had- I find it much more interesting, enjoyable, and fun. QOTD: morning report. I always thought I hated it. Went twice this week. Really like it.
September 15, 2007

paul v
QOTD – I tried a 2005 Viognier from Jewel Collection in Acampo, CA. I was totally blown away by the flavor (peach/apricot) and finish. I can still feel it (in my mind) seven days later. Only 10 bones!
September 15, 2007

TROC
New wine has been Pinot’s from Burgundy, god they’re good. I believe aging is the only thing that adds those layers of taste you discussed here. They’re not all meant to be opened young and green. Aging adds character, just ask any 50 year old.
September 15, 2007

Skol
When I was in Southern Spain I tried some Finos. They were great. My expectation of Sherry was built on Harvey’s Bristol Cream. I just could not imagine drinking that in the heat of Southern Spain, but the Fino and Manzanilla were great. I learned a lot, despite my biases.
September 15, 2007

ktw
Rotllan Torra 2001 Priorat
btw – i have never ordered the same bottle twice from WL
September 15, 2007

KMANN
Pennington will play!

…and Daniel LaRusso is gonna fight!
September 15, 2007

cgf
Gary-
havent left a comment in awhile. i finally have internet in my new place. gotta catch up on some episodes. Nice ep and good point to drive home.

QOTD: Had my first Vouvray finally last weekend. 2005 Champalou and I thought it rocked. It had a ton of complexity for a 15 dollar wine. Have you gotten a chance to try it?

Hope all is well and have a great weekend.
September 15, 2007

Vinacull
Gary, Nice EP. I’m not disagreeing with the point that some older wines still have plenty of life left and may get equal or higher ratings from critics when retasted 10 years later, but I’ve also seen lower ratings reflecting that the wine didn’t have the stuffing originally thought. Regarding the viewer question on Silver Oak in particular, I’ve had them older and have yet to find one beyond 10 or 11 years beyond release date that was not starting the downward slide. That said, I’m envious of your description on the Beausejour-Becot — there are few things more charming or distinctive than a beautfully made claret that is in its second or third stage of evolution. QOTD: Lychee nuts
September 15, 2007

Jeff
Hey Gary;
tried my first Gruner Veltliner and it was spectacular! Summerer 2006 austrian. liked it so much; I ordered a top line kit and am going to make a batch for myself (30bottles; 23 liters)! BTW, that is a great way to try out new varietals; make them yourself; the top quality kits of sterile must with or without skins now are super, and the quality (particularly on white wine) is well beyond what your expectations may be! good luck on the cab!
yamas!
Jeff
September 15, 2007

Sassodoro
QOTD. Not entirely sure. A recent new wine try that worked out well is 2006 Zantho Muskat Ottonel from Burgenland, Austria. I guess this really counts as a re-try, because I had had a dry muscat before that didn’t really impress me the way the sweeties do (e.g., Moscato d’Asti). (Remember the Dolcetto lesson — don’t try a varietal just once and think you know what it’s like.) Anyway, this Zantho comes on with a floral-peach-melon nose that makes you think it’s going to be sweet, and then it hits you with a wall of bone dry, slightly frizzante, high high acidity that scrapes the curry right off your palate and gets you ready for the next bite. Very interesting.
September 15, 2007

glenn
Beau-sejour Becot and an older vintage for $70/per. what are you doing to my wallet??? and yes, i like what i like – i am an old dog and new tricks can hurt. my Sasha order speaks about me too – hey, who are you Mr Patriot act looking up our order profiles – j/k.

NYJ and NYG both with hobbled QB’s – yuck. what is the O/U for combined wins this season? 10-11 maybe? at least the NYY are finishing with class.
September 15, 2007

MetalDave
I said GOD DAMN!!! 1988 Beausejour-Becot. Now you’re speaking to me, my friend! THESE are the kind of wines that America needs to be waking up to and I’ve been saying it for years. I really hope you keep these kind of wines on the show often. People don’t seem to have nearly enough respect for them!

QOTD:
My favourite new discovery is in 3 parts. They were recently discovered by me at a tasting. They are Chateaux Destieux (SEGCC), Dufort-Vivens Margaux (2GCC), and Ferriere Margaux (3GCC). All stunning and all QPR kings.
September 15, 2007

PRW
QOTD: Not chilling white wine.
September 15, 2007

Joe CÃ´tÃ©
I’m loving these slightly shorter episodes you’ve done 2 days in a row now! These sub 10 minute episodes are perfect for our busy lives. Keep bringing the thunder!
September 15, 2007

chenin
Well said, Gary.
September 15, 2007

Greg R.
QOTD: The San Luigi Dolcetto you reviewed a few eeks back…had it the other night and it was great…I never had a Dolcetto before…thanks!!
September 15, 2007

pamanapa
Soon we’ll be like theater goers; able to decide what we like for ourselves. You’re leading the way.
September 15, 2007

Justin L
Love the episode! It Truly is about each mans own standards of wine, although critics have a huge impact on the wines we choose to purchase and consume
September 15, 2007

wmole
Prosecco, Rhone, Cava and low$ Brdx.

Thanks for vid link, thought for a while you had gone over to the dark side.
September 15, 2007

Todd
I tried Argentinian Malbec’s (from Mendoza) based on your show so there’s something new. Maybe I’ll try watching the Jets next…naw, forget that. Go Seahawks!

Love the show. Have fun on Ellen. I’ve got a job so I probably won’t see it.
September 15, 2007

onemore
Good episode & lesson. The way I often figure, wine critics predict the future drinkability of wines about as accurately as meteorologists predict the weather. Eh, sometimes they’re spot on, other times… not so much.

While I’m here, I’ll admit this: Pomerol is about as not-new as it gets for me, yet I ordered some Franc Maillet with the free shipping code. I did order a dolcetto though, and that’s… um… new-again for me. (It’s been a long time since I last tried dolcetto.) I just saw a monastrell & petit verdot blend at WL that I didn’t see a few days ago, and I’m kinda sad about that because the (1) the tasting notes sound interesting and (2) I’m looking for more petit verdot wines to try.

And (3), related to QOTD: My favorite new-to-me wine is definitely monastrell. I still can’t believe I passed it up, all these years, on wine shelves. I’m trying bottles from various winemakers and have yet to find a serious disappointment. If I don’t see that (or any other) monastrell/petit verdot blend at my local shops, I’ll order it.

My favorite new non-wine thing? Pardon me while I get all girly-girl: A very comfy, fitted, camel colored, 50% cashmere + 50% wool, wonderfully detailed, wide collared, short trench styled coat, complete with large hemline pleats in front and back. At a steal of a price! This coat rocks. And it’ll keep me warm on Chicago winter days. And it’s adorable. AND It was the last coat of its kind in the store. All around win for me.

(Okay, so my favorite new thing is REALLY a certain policy/procedure change at the office, but I’d have to write several additional paragraphs to explain it and why it’s such a great new thing—so I’ll spare you.)
September 14, 2007

Trish-da'-Dish
Reposted this since it truncated! Weird….

Since I’m a true Gemini, I’m always trying new things–I can’t help it! Wine has to be really, really, good, or a fantastic bargain, for me to be tempted to double-dip….yes, I know that I’ll likely never be returning to wines to see how they “evolve,” over time, but since my purchase price point is usu. very low (less than $25), I don’t think that a lot of what I would be buying would have all that much aging potential, anyway.

Wine-wise, I’ve recently discovered that I XOXOX Hungarian Royal Tokajis, and also I have discovered and fallen in love with the earthy Carmeneres and pruney Italian ripassa-style wines, and I am trying to try out new bottles each time, if possible. I just wish that I lived in a huge city where I could really blow through different examples of these…..

-Trish

P.S. The guy? Gal? above,jcbphd, attended a tasting that was remarkably similar to the one I went to tonight. Including the resin-ey, funky, Chat du Pape at the end! Saint Louis, MO, anyone?
September 14, 2007

Trish-da'-Dish
Since I’m a true Gemini, I’m always trying new things–I can’t help it! Wine has to be really, really, good, or a fantastic bargain, for me to be tempted to double-dip….yes, I know that I’ll likely never be returning to wines to see how they “evolve,” over time, but since my purchase price point is usu. very low (
September 14, 2007

Robin C.
QOTD: My favorite thing that’s new is taking French lessons. I’m not taking it to go to France; I was there as a child when we lived in Berlin, and hope to go again, but that’s not the reason. I just like French and wanted to try it an it was absolutely the right thing to do. The pronunciation is fairly easy for me and a lot of the vocabulary is similar to Spanish which I know moderately well, so it’s fun and relaxing yet challenging.

Your show was fun and informative and relaxing. You’re pretty good at your guesses – I’ll bet the Jets do just as you said.
September 14, 2007

stevo
qotd: avocado