The Pinot Noir Episode – Episode #317

September 19, 2007

Gary Vaynerchuk explores some Pinot Noir’s from different parts of the world.

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“If you like Mayer-Nakel Spätburgunder (pronounced with a long-A, by t…” by Bonn Professor
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Wines tasted in this episode:

2006 Castle Rock Pinot Noir SonomaSonoma Pinot Noir
2006 Coopers Creek Pinot NoirNew Zealand Pinot Noir
2005 Ghisolfi PinayLanghe
2004 Meyer Nakel Pinot Noir AhrGerman Red Wine

Links mentioned in todays episode.

Gary on Conan

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September 19, 2007

aheadwithwings
Im not mad at Pinot…Its just how it goes sometimes.
September 19, 2007

mbannon
It’s not Pinot’s fault everyone went berserk and decided to pay top dollar for every last stinkin’ bottle of the stuff regardless of the quality. I’m not mad at Pinot – I’m mad at Pinot drinkers. Pinot posers. Pinosers. YOU PRICED ME OUT OF MY FAVORITE WINE YOU PINOSERS!!!
September 19, 2007

Orion Slayer
I ususally don’t buy Pinot because of the price, but the wines featured today seem like a great way to go to experience the range of Pinot flavors without busting the bank.

QOTD: This year is my first year experience with wine, so I don’t know what the wine world was like before 2007. To me, Pinot Noir has always been expensive, great wine is being grown and sold everywhere and it’s easy to learn about wines with great blogs like WineLibrary TV!
September 19, 2007

Taylor
Gary gook luck tomorrow/today at Ellen, got the tivo all hooked up.
QOTD I’m not mad at PN, It’s a good wine and deserves to hyped up a lil bit!
September 19, 2007

RDaneel
I’m not mad at Pinot, but I am mad at the hype that made me blow 40+ bones on a bottle of Anthill Farms Comptche Ridge pinot that was a total disappointment. There are other pinots I like for far less, and I wouldn’t have spent that much had it not, honestly, been for the fact that pinot is in vogue. It’s a great varietal, but not my favorite. You just can’t get mad at a grape!
September 19, 2007

GrapeStuff
Love Pinot – a little annoyed at the price points. It seems like almost anyone can start a boutique winery and start selling micro-produced pinot at the higher end of the $30 range, if not into the $40-$50 range.

I wish it was more affordable, as I really enjoy dreaking it. Maybe the 2008 Vayniac wine should be a pinot!
September 19, 2007

kahy
QOTD==I am mad at Pinot because I can’t seem to find one I love. I feel like I tolerate it because I am suppose to like it because of some movie. Gary is giving me to admit that it just isn’t my favorite and I am trusting my own palate
September 19, 2007

JerseyGirl turned CNY vayniac
almost forgot – thanks for the free schwag shipping Gary! i missed the Sasha opportunity, but I bought a t-shirt… should be waiting for me when I get home… WILL send pics if it fits! You rule!
September 19, 2007

Andy
Still love the Pinot G — We still search for deals — Really like the New Zealand Pinots
September 19, 2007

Wil
QOTD: Ya know, I never got on the Sideways train in time to see it or have an opinon, and now that it’s caused so much hype and/or nega-hype, I don’t think I will. However, a Louis Jadot Pinot Noir and I have a blood-feud to settle after it turned my teeth blacker than Charles Manson’s soul during a very prestigious first-of-the-year party.
September 19, 2007

1855class
i dig pinots abillity to express terroir.
qotd: im not mad at pinot noir; im mad when people ONLY like pinot noir.
September 19, 2007

wtvLurker
Billr’s grandma’s county tax rate is way too high. she should move to a more reasonable county. if it were closer to normal (eg 1%) than her tax would be only 1200 bones vs 20000. also she ought to look into tax relief as she might not have to pay any real estate taxes if she qualifies based on income, assets (other than the house), age etc…

qotd: pinot is beguiling because it is so good when it is good but so many are not worth it.
September 19, 2007

sky
spatburgunder is just what they call pn in germany……….
September 19, 2007

BF
QOTD: I like pinot because I don’t like pinot (generally). Its popularity makes my merlots and zins that much cheaper.
September 19, 2007

sky
that would be pinot noir………..
September 19, 2007

sky
i absolutely love pinot moir…usually dont pay the cali prices cause l like the dirty stinky ones from across the way but have found some relatively inexpensive insanely good values with all the compost pile and dirty laundry anyone can stomach. Kermit Lynch picks most of my favorites. i havent found any worth paying for in cali……….
September 19, 2007

haentz
Great to have a wine from the Ahr valley on. This is just around the corner from where I live and I just love going a little shopping for wine down there. This is really the main valley for red wine from Germany.
September 19, 2007

Larry The Wine Guy
I am a cerified Sommelier Level 2. I love your website Gary and you changing the Wine World. I try to do the same in my own little world here in South Florida (Originally from Brooklyn New York) I am TOTALLY Pinot Obsessed and most Sommeliers will agree that it is one of the most Complex Grape Varietals in the World Of Wine…Even before ths Movie Sideways Jacked up the Price of all the Pinots. Pinot Noir to quote Andrea Immer… is like going on a Blind Date. The Perfumes the Seduction all unknown until you try the Wine and it depends if that Producer is Obsessed with Pinot and nutures the most difficult grape varietal to grow….but if he or she does…. You ask her out for a Second Date…and you can’t stop thinking about her all day long!! With all that Said… with 3 or maybe half dozen exceptions to the Rule…. THE BEST PINOT NOIR’s IN THE WORLD YES BURGUNDY…VIVE LA FRANCE OR VIVE BORDEAUX…..is Willamette Vally Oregon Hands Down. Sample Some Beaux Freres or Domaine Drouhin, Or Belle Valle or Yamhill Valley Vineyards or Et Fille or …on and on and on… And then tell me about Your Pinay Or Your Spatburgunders!!!!!! Oregon all the way BABY!!!!!
September 19, 2007

Bossman
QOTD: I’m just made adout saffron.
September 19, 2007

Billr
Gary, you may be creating a monster here. You said for the Lurkers to get up and get involved…..:):):):)
September 19, 2007

Billr
QOTD: Can’t seem to get mad at something I never had but the good old American Way of “supply and demand (SAD)” is a big pain at times. I just hate it when we allow the SAD rule us and sometimes take control of our life. For example, look at the SAD say in the Florida Keys housing/vacation rental market for example or the same could be said for the Texas Gulf Coast housing/vacation rental market. Everyone wants to head to those areas (beautiful areas by the way) for vacations and are willing to pay top dollar plus for the privilage to do so. Thus DEMAND. SUPPLY gets overbooked and all of a sudden new rental houses start springing up everywhere. Property values go up and thus TAXES go up to. Sure it sounds just great but poor little old 80 year old grandma’s 1200 square foot house is now worth $150,000 instead of $20,000 but the poor old grandma’s TAXES are now $20,000 a year instead of $600 and she only gets a $400 SS check every month and can’t afford to put away $1600 plus to pay those new taxes with. So she has to sell her little home of 60 plus years where she has raised 8 kids and move into her 30 year old Pinot Noir guzzling great grandson’s house. Go figure.

I retract my previous statement, HELL YES I am pissed about the Pinot Noir thingy……:):):):):)
September 19, 2007

Deano
Gary Good episode. I cant wait to see you on Ellen i am sure it will be good.

QOTD:
-Not mad at it because i am a Merlot fan anyway
September 19, 2007

chenin
Gary,
thanks for doing the Meyer-NÃ¤kel!

Finally a serious red wine from germany on your show (the Dornfelder recently was a shame).
Oh, and it’s not a fruit bomb
It’s damn tasty, what were you thinking ??

QOTD: No, we in europe are not affected anyway. But I dislike the movie Sideways,
almost fell asleep. It’s got nothing to do with wine and it’s just bad.
September 19, 2007

redmon
I’m scared of pickles and saurkrout (spelling?), so I’ll pass on that german stuff, but I like that Pinay….sod and all.

qotd – Yes, I am mad. experimentation should not be this expensive. I’ve had a bunch of $35 pinot that I thought was garbage, so i’ll wait for tastings where I can sample wines before buying them.

That Ellen is a witty lady…..be on your toes mate!
September 19, 2007

Sassodoro
Good show, Gary!

QOTD. I’m more mad at myself about Pinot. I tried Pinot back in the bad old days, before Americans had figured out where to plant it and how to do it right. Back then it was thin and dilute and not very interesting. (And I never could afford really good Burgundy.) So I stayed away from it, and didn’t really revisit it seriously until after the movie — preconceived notions. So I missed out on the window of opportunity when good Pinot could be had for half of the current price. Damn!