South African red wines

South African red wines – Episode #321

September 26, 2007

Gary Vaynerchuk tastes through 3 South African red wines and gives you his 2 cents!

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Wines tasted in this episode:

2005 Peacock Ridge MerlotSouth African Merlot
2005 Seidelberg Pinotage Roland’s ReserveSouth African Pinotage
2004 Rustenberg John X MerrimanSouth African Red Meritage

214 Responses

September 26, 2007

pauly
this should be #321, no?
September 26, 2007

Brian Kachel
#2 I think..
and should be 321 ??
September 26, 2007

yanknbank
what number did I get?!
September 26, 2007

angryphoton
yahoo, top 5

AP
September 26, 2007

mbannon
Finally caught the Ellen clip, nice job Gary! Now to watch today’s show…
September 26, 2007

Norcal
Top 13!

Looking forward to South African wines. I was there for work last fall, and had an opportunity to try a bunch of different wines, with the exchange rate being a huge help. It was awesome. The John X Merriman has been nice in the past â€“ hopefully it lives up!
September 26, 2007

purplejuicebruce
good timming
September 26, 2007

emilt
Hate to nitpick but it’s palate not palette … unless you are painting with wine
September 26, 2007

Cearbhaill
Must…resist…pointing out….posting position!
September 26, 2007

DrEdwardo
In the top ten again. Now to watch the episode!

Edwardo
September 26, 2007

Withnail
Good topic
September 26, 2007

Scott S
Ahhh….just missed it!
September 26, 2007

Loweeel
Nothing else by Boekenhoutskloof? Especially after raving about the $7 Wolftrap?

Gary, I’m disappointed. I’ve personally gotten their Chocolate Block in NJ, albeit not from you guys. I’m glad you reviewed new terroir, but I’m disappointed that you missed the chance to see other, higher-end, offerings from the maker of one of the best value wines ever on WLTV.
September 26, 2007

Senor Sangria
Hey Gary,

I haven’t tried many South African wines but I’ll probably pick up the 2 you recommended and try them out.

QOTD: I’m on a health kick lately… Oatmeal is my cereal of choice

- Rick
September 26, 2007

Sonnenuhr
Another terrific show. Guess it’s time to move beyond Goats Do Roam (branding genius}.

QOTD: Steel-cut oats (first love was Frosted Flakes!)
September 26, 2007

GopherM
I have been enjoying S. African wines for a couple of years now and it is still easy to find many good values in their wines. I have several pinotages that I especially like and some great chenin blancs.
September 26, 2007

TennLee
I’m a new viewer and this is my first comment- and have been watching for about a month. I really like your show.

Cereal question- Frosted Mini Wheats. Probably the only thing halfway healthy I eat.
September 26, 2007

DrEdwardo
QOTD: Shreddies
September 26, 2007

Grant
QOTD: Old school Captain Crunch
September 26, 2007

randyb
Too bad about the Pinotage…was waiting for the bananas.

QOTD: Over the years you try different cereals and get on different kicks. But I alway come back to Cheerios. Guess, I’m just old school brother…
September 26, 2007

yowens
QOTD: Special K (dont tell anyone)
September 26, 2007

Chris B
I love Old Fasioned Oatmeal with rasins and walnuts!
September 26, 2007

abdrury
Former lurker checkin’ in!

Hey the set looked great today–you guys change the lighting around or somethin’?

I don’t eat cereal.
September 26, 2007

cma82
Ahh, too bad the pinotage didn’t work out for you. I’m always down to enjoy one of those.

QOTD: Gotta be the rasin bran. Two scoops of goodness
September 26, 2007

Totte
Gary

Tell the people more about the grapes. More education. Do the Vaynernation knows that Chardonnay is made from Gouais Blanc and Pinot Noir, Cab Sauv is a clone combo of Cab Franc and Sauvignon Blanc, Vidal is the combo of Ugni Blanc and Rayon d’Or which is a Vitis Lambrusca grape. Maybe the Vayniacs would find it intresting to know some about the difference between the “European” vine, Vitis Vinifera and the “American” vine Vitis Lambrusca and how the to are important to each other. And there is a new law for grapes that are combos between Vinifera and Lambrusca (e.g Vidal).

QotD : I like granola

Big Up

Swedish T
September 26, 2007

Winelynn
Think I am going to try the Peacock Ridge wine that you tried today. Good show.
QOTD: Special K with sliced bananas and skim milk(only skim)
September 26, 2007

Dave Canada
Whoahhhhh new intro…..what will be next?
Great episode Gary, I’ll admit this is a region that I have kind of given up on after about 10-12 bottles that did not do it for me…I’ll have to get back in if you think things are on the up and up
QOTD – Gotta be cherrios….simply the best!
September 26, 2007

BruceP
QOTD: Barbara’s Shredded Spoonfuls. Yum.

I love South African syrahs. Little disappointed that you didn’t taste any of these. I got hooked on them on visits to South Africa for work a few years ago. At their best, they are a perfect balance between Cornas/Cote Rotie and Washington/California. Remember th huge South African guy that GV had on WLTV about 10 months ago. He owns Luddite vineyards in South Africa. His wines are beautiful. Chris Williams at Meerlust also makes some beauties. If anyone ever gets the chance to head over there, please do. It’s a beautiful wine country.
September 26, 2007

Taco John
Whoa, production value meets WLTV. Nice job, just don’t go all Hollywood on us. What’s next, editing of the videos? Second takes? And when are you releasing the 5 DVD box-set with special bonus DVD that answers burning questions like “Is Gary really pouring that wine on the floor?” and “What happens to the $2-$100+ bottles of wine that Gary uses two glasses of?”

QOTD: I’m not a big cereal eater. I like Bear Naked granola though.
September 26, 2007

MN George
No “addiction” but often have Cheerios with a banana. My favorite would be Cinammon Toast Crunch. If I have an addiction, it is FREE SHIPPING deals…
September 26, 2007

TheDumbPhase
QOTD:

I like eggs.
September 26, 2007

Withnail
Was John X like the Malcolm X of South African wine?
September 26, 2007

StÃ©phane
I’ve been on a huge granola kick lately â€“ made some of my own recently. I tend to go through phases though. I used to really be into Cinnamon Toast Crunch until I started to watch the sugar intake.
September 26, 2007

Arthur
Totte:

Chardonnay is made of Chardonnay. Chardonnay is the offspring of Gouais blanc and an unidentified grape, most likely Pinot noir. Cabernet sauvignon is not a clone but the offspring of C. franc and S. blanc. This means it may be a natural crossing. When you cross two vinifer species the result is a crossing, not a clone. The blending of V. vinifera and V. lambrusca (or V. riparia) to create a new species is called a hybrid.
September 26, 2007

Randy
Good job on the Pinotage birthdate. 1925 per Wikipedia (which we all know never lies…)

And who was it that Kastner zoomed out to capture on the left of the screen?

QOD: Frosted Mini Wheats. Can’t get enough of the little sugar bombs.
September 26, 2007

Jim Walker
Gotta try some more South African wines.

QOTD: Oatmeal Crisp with raisins, by General Mills
September 26, 2007

Arthur
Totte:

Just looked at your blog and realized that English might not be your first language.
Was not trying to bust your chops, I just believe in “accuaracy in academia”. Hence my most recent post. No malice intended.
September 26, 2007

Arthur
…. apparently, I don’t practice accuracy in spelling….
September 26, 2007

Derek
Very good EP Gary, I want to get into some south African wines, its on the list.

QOTD: I am a very big fan of me Lucky Charms.
September 26, 2007

Malphas
Okay Gary, I must address this first:

PALETTE – What artists (people like me) use to pick colors for pretty pictures
PALATE – What food/wine critics use (people like you) use to refer to the sense of taste

Question of the Day: I’ve always been addicted to Corn POPS. It was a treat for me as a kid, but recently I’ve been getting into healthier cereals like Cheerios, Rice Krispies (the plain kind) and Total. All with a sliced banana, of course.
September 26, 2007

John Farrin
Was hoping for a good Pinotage but ya can’t win em all.

QOTD: Do I have to? Okay, Golden Crisp (formerly Sugar Crisp). I know, I’m damned.
September 26, 2007

chenrys
We really enjoy the educational aspect of your show. Thanks.

QOTD: No current cereal addictions here,
September 26, 2007

KAHUNA
Gary said COCK and WOODY
September 26, 2007

KAHUNA
QOTD: Capt’n Crunch the Lucky Charms
September 26, 2007

GottaGoDrink
QOTD- Honey Nut Cheerios with Banana. But, I am an expert egg-maker!

Really good show Gary. The Merlot in partic sounds very good.

Did you ever notice how many comments use my first name?
September 26, 2007

Bob F
No favorite cereal, but always have a box of Raisin Brand in the house.

A few editions ago Wine Spectator featured south Africa. The article pretty much follows your thinking about the future for their wines. But after you highlighted “The Wolftrap” from Boekenhoutskloof about a year ago, I’ve been convienced about their quality and price.
September 26, 2007

DrEdwardo
Gary, regarding your black (actually) green board:

“Trust your palette” if you are a painter.

Trust your palate, if you are training Ellen and Conan.

Edwardo
September 26, 2007

waibeans
QOD: my work actually puts out quite a spread for breakfast each day. cereal, eggs, croissants, muffins, bagels, fresh fruit, and a cheese plate (today had some wonderful smoked gouda YUM!)

but anyway.. recently they’ve been putting out some good ol favorites which I guess would satisfy this question: Fruit Loops and Frosted Flakes. that’ll wake you up in the morning

ttyl GV
September 26, 2007

Arthur
Malphas

Well said.

My other favorite is: “black currents”

Currents are found in electrical wires and bodies of water
Currants are succulent berries that come in white, red and black.
September 26, 2007

wlburk
Hey Gary,

Good educational show. I may have made a new vayniac out of a co-worker today, so YAY!

QOTD: Cinnamon Toast Crunch
September 26, 2007

amgryger
QOTD: Not addicted to cereal, at all.
September 26, 2007

PaVo
I’m not addicted to cereal but I do love Raisin Bran, Chex and Muslix with Fruit, just love the difference between soft fruit sweetness and gritty chewy grain. Yum.
September 26, 2007

jcbphd
QOTD: Golden Grahams.

T Shirt Idea of the Day: The words “Trust Your Palette” with an artist’s palette pictured. Did I mention that I’m the grammar police?
September 26, 2007

Kev and Ams
QOTD: There are cereals that I love that I can’t eat anymore like Fruity Pebbles and Capt’n Crunch w/ Crunch Berries. But I have always loved Rice Chex and Corn Flakes.
September 26, 2007

Kevin
Nice titling. And you did inspire me to try some South African wines. I will try some soon.
QOTD: Life Cereal
September 26, 2007

the big wine O
Golden Grahams
September 26, 2007

rob in indy
QOTD: With out a doubt, Cinnamon Toast Crunch…mmm
September 26, 2007

Happyuke
Hey,Cinnamon Toast crunch,by the boxful.
Thanks for the show,still waiting for BC wines yummmm.
September 26, 2007

Roo
Great ep! Love the educational eps with the tinge of Vaynerspeak…I’m throwing a “Wines of the World” tasting party soon, so I’ll be sure to get some South African flavor involved…

QOTD: Not addicted per se, but I used to LOVE “Oh’s” cereal, remember that? Also Grape Nuts (but only when microwaved and hot…yum) – and Frosted Flakes bring the thunder too.
September 26, 2007

stewart l
I like south african wines- but it would nice to have you showcase the newer wines such as pinot noir and syrah, pinotage seems to becoming less popular.
Qod- got to have my low fat granola with raisins.
September 26, 2007

Kevin from Queens
87, 88, 89, 90,91, 92, 93, 94, 95, 96, 97, and 98. I don’t need these numbers! I don’t want these numbers to have an influence on me.
September 26, 2007

wine-ot
keep on rockin out gv crankin out 90 plus shows each n every day…drinkin some ‘barrister’ red mountain wa merlot ‘02 tonight and will think of you…ok that was weird….qotd – oatmeal with honey pb and syrup (sugar free)…with a protien shake…starts the day right!
September 26, 2007

DT
QOTD: Whole grain irish oats. They take awhile to cook, but worth it. Also, Cap’n Crunch, but you have to let them soak in the milk a little while so they don’t rip up the inside of your mouth.
September 26, 2007

gordoyflaca
QOTD: Nature’s Path HEMP granola. What can I say? It’s addicting!

That guy with the video camera looks like Bobby Knight.
September 26, 2007

GrapeStuff
I have been trying to drink as many SA wines I could find ever since you reviewed The Wolftrap (which i really really liked). How could you keep your SA QPR reccos. from us? Come on GV, share those $40-50 bottle finds with your devoted Vayniacs!

QOTD: I dont think I have had cereal for breakfast (other than oatmeal) in over a year. Wow, that really caused me to pause and think)
September 26, 2007

gordoyflaca
About the numbers: ” In 1983 I asked the journalist Sheldon Wasserman not to publish scores for my wines… in which a comparison becomes a divisive numerical term rather than expressing shared human toil. I have not changed my mind: my tiny farm producing 20,000 bottles of wine a year interests only a small number of customer-friends… I think of my hills as an anarchical arena, with no inquisitors or opposing factions, whose inner richness is stimulated by severe, thoughtful critics; I strive for a community that can still express solidarity with whoever has not been so well-rewarded by Mother nature. Wishful thiking? Allow me to dream.”
-Teobaldi Cappellano

also refer to the recent Eric Asimov post regarding wine and context… to me, the context is so important when it comes to wine… just like people… If you know where a person is coming from, you can understand them better, love them and embrace their flaws…
September 26, 2007

gsh
QOTD: Granola, baby. Without raisins, fruit or any of that other crap. Just straight up granola. That’s how I roll.
September 26, 2007

Juicy Jesse
QOTD: Kellogg’s Honey Smacks (w/fresh banana/strawberries added). Good episode on South Africa. I’ll have to try some more of those wines!
September 26, 2007

E-Rock
Wheaties kid!
September 26, 2007

Matt H.
QOTD: Kashi Go Lean with really cold milk. Thank you, that will be all.
September 26, 2007

pforty
QOTD: 1) Alton Brown’s recipe for Homemade Granola and 2) Grape nut O’s!!!!
September 26, 2007

texasmike
QOTD>>>>>Cinnamon Life…trust the crunch…..enjoy the finish.
September 26, 2007

MW_DM,IA
1925, aye aye.

QOTD: I always love a big bowl of Rice Krispies with a lot of granulated sugar on it…
September 26, 2007

Badger Ann
QOTD: Cheerios!
September 26, 2007

Jon B.
Great episode today. Who’s the profile camera man??? Any how I’ll start seeking out some S.A. wines to try. QOTD I like Golden Grahams, with a close second being Good Ole LIFE cereal. However Captain Crunch would be the ultimate if you didn’t have bloody gums after eating it. Thanks Gary and WLTV crew.
September 26, 2007

DT
Like the new lead in and fade out. Classy.
September 26, 2007

Darlene O.
Love your episodes, Gary…you know I do! And hey…welcome back, Eric!!!:} If I ate cereal, I would probably want..I think it’s called ‘Cinnamon Grahams’? I could eat that like candy, but I don’t, ‘cuz it will go straight to where I don’t want it to go!:}
September 26, 2007

Nico
yo Gary! Great show! My tasting club/group just themed South African reds, must be the popular theme!

QOTD: Honey Bunches o’ Oats

-Nico
September 26, 2007

AmandaM
I really enjoyed the new intro. Great job on that.

On the topic of merlot, it was actually the first type of wine that I ever drank and I totally love it. I’ve never seen Sideways, but just since you talk about it so much, I think I’m going to have to rent it and see what you’re talking about.

QOTD: It’s either honey nut cheerios or honey bunches of oats. I like the honey at breakfast a whole lot.
September 26, 2007

Tommy Vernieri
QOTD: Definitely not an addiction but I like Life with yogurt clusters. But DT is on the money with Irish Oats (I have steal-cut, I don’t know if that’s the same thing as whole grain), they are delicious.

http://www.goodeatsfanpage.com/Season5/EA1E06.htm
September 26, 2007

John J.
QOTD: Oh man, Crunchy Raisin Bran…mmmm
September 26, 2007

TommyBoBo of WI
Was that a LURKER over your Right shoulder at the 10 minute mark????? Watch out!

QOTD: Lucky Charms, ice cold 2% milk with maybe a splash of whole cream,, MY GOD,, that’s heaven!
September 26, 2007

Grapedigger
Thanks for the pinotage info…I look forward to trying this…
QOTD: I blend 85 % Corn Flakes + 15 % Rice Krispies…Balanced with a kick
September 26, 2007

wmole
I’m addicted to serial enjoyment of WLTV and trying out new wines of the world. Thanks Gary.
September 26, 2007

KW
QOTD: Cheerios – Honey Nut
September 26, 2007

Skol
Prices sound reasonable for the South African wines.

I am addicted to classic Corn Flakes, with fresh fruit thrown in.
September 26, 2007

Piper
Fancy new intro….!
QOTD: Frosted Mini Wheats
September 26, 2007

Jx
QOTD: I could eat cap’n crunch with crunchberries out of a punch bowl. Absolutely addicting, cannot get full. (Although I saw they are bringing Count Chocula back – I smell T.R.O.U.B.L.E.)
September 26, 2007

Pastafari Pirate
QOTD: it used to be Team Flakes, but I haven’t been able to find them in about 5 years. They must’ve discontinued them. They were a stupendous Meritage of Wheat, Corn, Rice, and Oats.

Nowadays, I tend to mix 2-4 different cereals together, never the same blend twice. If I’m in a square mood, I’ll go with Quaker Oatmeal Squares blended with Kashi Autumn Wheat shredded wheat; if I’m in a flake mood it will be Smart Start, Honey Bunches of Oats, and a healthy portion of Giant Granola. With other stuff mixed in, as I experiment with new flakes/squares.
September 26, 2007

Tom (vtjones)
QOTD: Honey nut Cheerios (but I do have the Captain Crunch once and a while)
September 26, 2007

Pastafari Pirate
oh yeah, I forgot – and Grape Nut Flakes, when it’s a day for a flake blend.
September 26, 2007

Hugh
cocao pebbles….
September 26, 2007

Carl V
Frosted Flakes
September 26, 2007

Harley Stan
WOW, what a timely topic today. I just got home from going to eat at an Ethiopean restaurant, and wouldn’t you know it, I had a glass of South African red wine with dinner. I don’t know the varietal of the wine, but the name caught my attention, “Goats do Rome”. It was not the best effort but name was cool, and seeing my wife roll her eyes at me when I made the oak monster sound at her was also pretty cool too. Anyway great show today.
QOTD- Lucky Charms, been on this kick for about a year now.
September 26, 2007

Pat Mc
Arrowood steelcut oatmeal. Only the real deal. If I’m healthy for breakfast, it gives me leeway with wine, ya know?
September 26, 2007

KyleLikesTies
QoTD: My co-op has some sort of hippie organic strawberry-hemp granola … Delicious!
September 26, 2007

Vinsant
QOTD: Raisin bran crunch with a nice WA Merlot!
September 26, 2007

avwineguy
I don’t know about the show yet, but someone got the lighting really dialed in. Looks good!
September 26, 2007

Jeff D.
QOTD: Life cereal. All the way. Even better than Life is Cinnamon Life. That is cereal heaven right there. If I die and go to heaven, my cereal of choice is Cinnamon Life.

I picked up a new wine today. Never tried this type of wine before. It’s a 2005 Galus Costieres Denimes from the Rhone Valley. Super excited about trying it.
September 26, 2007

Matt
QOTD: Grape nuts!
September 26, 2007

SacramentoCharlie
Thanks for the SA episode. Def like learning about wines from different regions.
QOTD-
6-12 Count Chocula
12-19 – Apple Jacks
19-32 – Cinnamon Toast Crunch
30-Present Kashii Go Lean
September 27, 2007

Ferrigno
“PASO” means “(I) pass” in spanish HOHOHO!
QOTD: MAIZE! HOHO, DIDN’T EXPECT THAT DID YOU?
September 27, 2007

Flavio
Thanks for the episode. You now owe us another one, with the $40 wines that are as good as $100-200 ones.

QOTD: Cinnamon Toast Crunch and Oreos cereal all the way… and the new All-Bran with yogurt clusters when I want to feel like I’m eating well.
September 27, 2007

soyhead
box cereal in general is not good qpr
September 27, 2007

Rice
QOTD: I’m addicted to GV Cereal (I’m not making this up) Sold at Walmart, under the “Great Value” label Bran Flakes. LOL!!! (Really)
September 27, 2007

P-Higgity
QOTD: Frosted Flakes. After they’ve been sitting in milk just a little while, before they’re soggy, when you bite down on them they get stuck on top of your molars all compacted. When you scrape them off they taste like the inside of a Butterfinger. Now that’s a cereal that delivers on the finish.
September 27, 2007

1855class
fancy new intro!
south african wines are interesting, but don’t seem to be widely distributed in my area.
i once had a bottle of fluer du cape merlot that i hung onto for about a year and a half and when i opened it it smelled and tasted exactly like green bell peppers-nothing more and nothing less. one of the oddest wine experience ive ever had.
qotd-right now im rocking the natures path organic optimum zen. it sounds like it should turn you into a superhero; but its just ok.
September 27, 2007

bundydb
Still no “Sniffy Sniff” lol

QOTD: Frosted Mini Wheats and Frankenberry!!!
September 27, 2007

Ken
Palette = a range of colors
Palate = the upper surface of the mouth that separates the oral and nasal cavities or as it pertains to wine; the feel and taste of wine in the mouth.
September 27, 2007

jack
qotd: special k vanilla almond!
September 27, 2007

radarmatt
Gary, I loved this episode! The backstory on Pinotage was great — always wanted to know more about it. Rock it homie.
September 27, 2007

Jason DiMambro
Gary,

Speaking of South African wine, I’d still like to get my hands on some Stormhoek South African “Geek Wine”! You should do an episode of WLTV with Hugh MacLeod. From what I understand, he visits NY city often. You guys could even organize a Geek Dinner which Stormhoek sponsors…

Website: http://www.stormhoek.com

QOTD: Kellogg’s Apple Jacks and Honey Nut Cheerios
September 27, 2007

Pardus
I have had a lot of Pinotage from South Africa AND Zimbabwe. There are some decent ones, though Mukuyu Pinotage from Zimbabwe also is dominated by the oak monster. With the trouble there these days I am not even sure they are still producing.

One of the great things about visiting South Africa is that South African wine is very inexpensive in South Africa. I would highly recommend a vacation in SA wine country. Stellenbosch is incredible place and if you go around September – October time frame you can see the whales in Hermanus. Cape Town itself is the most happening city in Africa.
September 27, 2007

onemore
Heh, the 90+ point wine shopper story might’ve been mine. I wanted to explain to the shopper why he shouldn’t pick wines solely on point merit (while slapping him upside his head) but the wine consultant had already whisked him and his girlfriend to another aisle of the store, and I figured it’d be creepy-stalkerish of me to pursue and follow them around the store just so I could explain the error of ways and all.

Anyway: Good episode. I’ve had only 2 South African wines, I think. One was off a restaurant’s wine list and the other was at a friend’s dinner party. Maybe I’ll give South Africa another shot sometime this year.

QOTD: Product 19. I eat it dry, by the handful. Love that stuff. Dunno why.

But if we’re talkin’ addictive breakfast food, then the answer is steel-cut oats. I put all kinds of stuff in my steel-cut oatmeal. My favorite concoctions are (1) lots of ginger, juice + pulp of half a lemon, honey, & sometimes pure mango syrup and (2) a little kosher salt, black pepper, red bell peppers, sauteed carrot slices, extra virgin olive oil, and sometimes a crumble of cheese (usually toscanello). Oatmeal is one of the most versatile foods on the planet. A little oatmeal as a side dish for steak is tasty.

Back to in-a-box cereal: There are days when my palate regresses to elementary school and craves sugarbombs. Rice Krispies Treats cereal didn’t exist when I was a kid, but it’s great (and so bad for my teeth) on those sugarbomb days. Other days, I crave Alpha-Bits. And then, some days I just want a bowl of Rice Chex with peach or nectarine cubes. The yogurt-covered Cheerio varieties make nice dry snacks; I keep a box at the office, and my coworkers laugh at me because hey, it’s the crazy lady with cereal in her cabinet and she doesn’t even eat it with milk, oh my!

Ellen: I finally got to see both episodes very early yesterday morning. (Insomnia’s good for something after all.) That producer segment was hilarious. Good times, man.

And: The editor in me wants to correct your chalkboard but I’m sure some other commenter has already done it. The editor side of me constantly fights with the writer side of me, in case you’re wondering. Maybe that’s why I ramble so much. Har-dee-har.
September 27, 2007

JOEinLA
Can I lobby for a solid Bordeaux tasting…?

QOTD: Raisin Bran
September 27, 2007

medo
Faaaaantastic EP Gary! I love SA wines, for me they bring the best value ever in my glass! Please – please bring in some SA wines more often…. I think I will popp a Rustenberg John X tonight
September 27, 2007

Jon W
Not a massive SA wine fan… maybe haven’t explored enough. QOTD: MiniBix with a few Cheerios on top, wife laughs at me and calls it a cereal medley (unless it’s Sunday, then she calls it a cereal Sundae).
September 27, 2007

Russ B
I am a fan of S.A. as well. Engelbretch Els Bordeaux style blend is pretty tasty.
I am addicted to Kix. Have a bowl almost every day.
September 27, 2007

jason
I don’t think it is fair to blame “sideways” for the merlot bad rap. i was working at a restaurant with a good wine list and when i person would sit at the bar and ask for a merlot, it was the code word for ” i don’t know anything about wine, or just some red wine that is dry” i think there are a lot of people that had a lot of merlots without any personality. today when you said it did not taste merlot, that is a shame. merlot when it is good is so charming. it can be like pinot in where it has the characteristics of the land. in gravel soil, it can taste like a norhtern rhone, in clay, it can taste silky with notes of tobacco.
i like the new intro, quite pro.

QOTD: musili. when i was a youngen, fruity pebbles made my morning. hated sugar smacks. corn pops were good too. i like the crunchy stuff now with some fresh fruit.
September 27, 2007

YoungDave
QOTD: So glad you asked!! When I was a kid, it was Cinnamon Toast Crunch or Rice Krispies Treats. All the way. Now that stuff is way too sugary for me, but now I do love oat bran flakes or any of those cereals with multi-grain flakes and “clusters” of some kind… kind of an ambiguous answer, but there it is: a balance between healthy and only slightly sweetened.
September 27, 2007

Tom L
I had the Kanonkop Pinotage and was quite impressed with it. And yes, I could actually smell the banana!

QOTD – Any good granola with some raisins/cranberries/blueberrys/coconut
September 27, 2007

MikeyB
qotd: used to go crazy with golden grahms, but now i’m into the adult version (barbara’s oat squares). what is it that makes cereal so addictive?
September 27, 2007

J Crazy
QOTD: I’m in Japan so it’s gotta be this salmon flavored soy bean…naw, I love this dried fruit granola cereal they have here. Top notch. And if you want some vegetable, salad, chewing on greens wine for a very very good price (about $9) you must seek out Chateau Labourdette. I had the 2003 yesterday and finished it tonight and I must say: close your eyes, put it in your mouth and you’ll swear your eating a fresh greens salad with just a touch of fruit vinegarette dressing without the vinegar taste. Not very balanced, a little harsh and short on the finish but I’ve seldom tasted more vegetal or bug sprayee a wine.
September 27, 2007

Greg R.
Who was that other camera guy?

QOTD: Special K
September 27, 2007

wednesday
Thanks for avoiding the shiraz.

Your description of pinotage was more edifying than what I have heard in tasting rooms about clones. I appreciated it.

cereal: most anything except those containing yogurt covered bits
September 27, 2007

Capt M
I’m not into Pinotage myself. I do buy a bottle every once in a while, and then I drink it when I’m in a strange mood. When I’m already relaxed, not when I want to relax. But not a very enjoyable varietal for this boy. QOTD: Kashi Heart to Heart Honey Toasted Oat Cereal, OR, Go Lean. ONLY.
September 27, 2007

Fogus
Golden Grahams. nuff said
-m
September 27, 2007

Tgatesman
I have always been a big fan of South African whites. This episode makes me excited to try the other end of the spectrum…I’m pretty excited!

QOTD: I was a big Cocoa Pebbles fan, but now I’m more of a Granola and Oatmeal Raisin Crisp type fan (love these with banana!)
September 27, 2007

donnie
you are truly a world class douchebag.
September 27, 2007

DavidB
QOTD: I am totally hooked on Ginger Granola mixed with French Vanilla Yogurt and some fruit; blue berry, strawberry , mango, what ever is in the fridge.

I have tried a few S. African wines and also found them to be damn good for the money. Thanks again for an enjoyable AM wake-up episode before work:) Yes that means I’m behind a day.
September 27, 2007

JerseyGirl turned CNY vayniac
I like the new intro Gary! Addin’ a little bit of polish – nice!

QOTD: Well, of course there’s the classic LUCKY CHARMS… but my latest addiction is the Fruit Loops with Marshmallows! It’s tough, cause i have to go to Walmart to get them (that’s the only place that has them around here) and I hate Walmart… but when I’m there that’s what I have to get!
September 27, 2007

Eric A.
Hallelujah for your comments on points, GV. There’s nothing wrong with wines being awarded points, stars or anything else — you just can’t follow critics blindly and expect to be happy all the time. The important thing to keep in mind is that the critics tend to be consistent about their likes and dislikes, so you need to keep track of how you, personally rate wines against those critics. If you discover that you’re not liking the merlots that a critic is scoring 90 and above, then you know not to buy what that critic likes. And the reverse is true, too: If you find yourself agreeing with a certain critic, stick with him or her. Also, you have to listen to their descriptions of the wines. You don’t just go see every movie Roger Ebert gives thumbs-up to — you listen to what he says about them, and make your decision from there.
September 27, 2007

World Krupp
After 321 episodes, I’ve finally left lurker mode…How about a shout out on the blackboard for the streaking Colorado Rockies (W10). Are the Mets about to lose their playoff spot??

Remember The Swedish Chef’s Croonchy Stars cereal? Gone before its time, I say. I like Peanut Butter Bumpers with fresh banana….
September 27, 2007

marshall
Yesterday, I watched a really old episode on Youtube where you were reviewing Canadian ice wine and you then (for the hell of it) took a sip of Molson beer and rated it. Why not promote a good beer! Infact why not do a Barley Wine show. Barley wines can be amazingly complex!
September 27, 2007

streamertyer
What, no DeGrendel or DeToren?

QOTD – Cracklin’ Oat Bran. The best…even though it resembles dry dog food… Quaker Oatmeal Squares 2nd….
September 27, 2007

Tom T.
Irish oatmeal. The steel cut kind. Beautiful nuttiness. And I can put just about anything in it, like raisins, cinnamon, honey, maple syrup. So what’s your favorite cereal?
September 27, 2007

Phil G
Lucky Charms
September 27, 2007

John Durham
Podcast academy #6 send me your way. Great podcast technique…Zero editing
September 27, 2007

tomfar
Love WLTV !!!

Gotta call you out, though. It’s “palate,” not “palette” (as in painting – or pallet, as in bottling day). It’s an easy one to mess up but good to know the difference.
September 27, 2007

daverdude
Yes, South Africa does Have some interesting Wines
More exposure should be advertised $
September 27, 2007

Nadine
When I do eat cereal I like Raisin Bran & Rice Krispies + added fruits -
September 27, 2007

Joe Po
Gary, thanks for all the info on SA wines. The pinotage facts were enlightening.
QOTD:Quaker Oatmeal Squares!
September 27, 2007

Jeff
Ever since you picked up tones of Apple Jacks cereal I have been readdicted, (that most certainly isn’t a word) as I was in my childhood.
September 27, 2007

Pamela
QOTD: I am cuckoo Coco puffs but I don’t eat them anymore
My QOTD – who the guy on camera two and what does the stain look like on the rug in front of your table?
September 27, 2007

Deano
Gary good episode i need to get those two wines they both sound good to me.

QOTD:
-I really like the quaker oat squares yummmmmm.
September 27, 2007

Saftig
QOTD-I’m a grown up but I don’t want to grow up. As a kid it was Frosted Rice Krinkles and I still gravitate to sweet cereals-gonna have to go with Golden Grahams but they have a quick sog factor if you don’t eat them quickly enough.
September 27, 2007

Raphael S
Too bad the Pinotage was overoaked: they can be wonderful wines.

QOTD: I’m a huge cold cereal fan, and lately I can’t get enough of Post Selects Cranberry Almond Crunch. I’ve been really digging the cranberries in it. Not too many cereals offer those little great tasting berries.
September 27, 2007

akellner
QOTD: Cereals: Kashi — Good and good for you — and Honey Nut Cheerios. I haven’t had too many SA wines, molderbosch sauvignon blanc and Graham Beck Pinno (pinnotage), which is very unusual and I like with grilled meat and even pizza. I admit I wouldnt have gone for a merlot or bordeaux-style blend, but I’m intreagued by your opinion of the region. I’ll have to try.
September 27, 2007

mrzitro
QOTD: As a kid it was Frosted Flakes. Now it’s Corn Flakes with Half & Half (light cream).

I like wine history so thanks for the Pinotage lesson. Further explanation on the name: The Cinsault grape is also known as Hermitage. Pino (from Pinot Noir) + tage (Hermitage) = Pinotage.

You gave a pass on the Seidelberg because of the oak monster. I’ve never had a Pinotage. Should I go with the Kanonkop 2004 to show me what a Pinotage should be?
September 27, 2007

Mike S.
Gary does an episode on South African reds and I’m leaving for France tonight to watch the USA play South Africa in the Rugby World Cup… Coincidence? I doubt it.

Regarding the Rustenberg, have a bottle in my cellar right now and I’m very excited to open it, although I have to admit that for myself and amongst the people I know who follow South African wine, the most respected winery right now is Boekenhoutskloof. Their Syrah and Cabernet Sauvignon are some of the best wines I’ve ever had. Anywhere.
September 27, 2007

Billr
Great show.
September 27, 2007

Billr
QOTD: Frosted shredded wheat.
September 27, 2007

Orion Slayer
Wow a 90 point fruit bomb! Too bad it wasn’t true to the Merlot flavor. I’d like to try it anyway.
It’s funny that your palate doesn’t like oak: doesn’t oak make a good pallet?

QOTD: Capn’ Crunch Peanutbutter cereal!!!
September 27, 2007

Dusty
for my money it’s hard to beat Cookie Crisp. I mean everyone loves cookies and milk, so why not have them for breakfast? Good info in a good episode. Much fun, thanks.
September 27, 2007

Bal
Cheerios with half and half a just ripe banana – yum!
September 27, 2007

Jayhitek
Is it my screen or is Gary working in the dark?
September 27, 2007

Taylor
QOTD I’m gonna have to go with Golden grahams and I’m Cuckoo for Coco Puffs, but for a more mature cereal honey nut shredded wheat and Puffins Peanut Butter cereal is awsome! Haven’t tried any south african wines yet but i plan do in the up coming weeks after watching the show.
September 27, 2007

JC
QOTD: Bare Naked stuff
September 27, 2007

Andy
Love the fruit BOMBS G ,, South Africa is happening .. Need to try Ernie Els effort…
QOTD—- Oatmeal Squares with sliced banana
September 27, 2007

BelgianBeerMistress
Gary, I tried a Pinotage last year. I picked it up out of curiosity on my way to dinner with my husband for our anniversary. I wasn’t sure what to expect, but it was extremely fruity. A little too much for my taste. Although my husband really liked it. After today’s show, I would give it another go, seeing how different they can be.

QOTD: Honey Bunches of Oats with Almonds. Pure Heroin.
September 27, 2007

Jayhitek
QOTD: Fruity Pebbles.
September 27, 2007

wayno da wino
Cool Episode!! Bringin’ da South African
Thunder! Da Peacock Ridge & Rustenberg
sound like Winners.

QOTD: Anything dats Whole Grain w/vitamins
September 27, 2007

BW
QOTD : Golden grahams…. yum !
September 27, 2007

Valerie
I love fruity cheerios mixed with whole-grain cheerios!
September 27, 2007

Rick "the model" M
loved this episode. Quick Question. Can you decant a wine for too long, and if so how do you know the right amount of time to decant a wine?
September 27, 2007

BiggRigg
QOTD: Cap’n Crunch
September 27, 2007

JonathanB
I’m totally hooked on Kashi Autumn Wheat. Allow me to quote their website:

“Abundantly Delicious Organic Whole Wheat Biscuits With A Kiss Of Natural Sweetness

Made from wholesome wheat interlaced with just the right amount of organic sweetener, our bite size biscuits will satisfy your desire for a tasty, all natural, filling breakfast. We start with whole organic wheat berries then steam, shred and weave them. When baked, the sweetener in the center makes the biscuits rise, creating a light, puffy texture and enhancing the toasty, whole grain taste.”

I wonder if this sounds like any wines you might know?

Gary – Maybe you could do an episode on wines inspired by cereals or something?

-J
September 27, 2007

Arthur
To: Rick “the model” M

Decanting, in the old days served three purposes: to help air out some of the sulfur odors in wines and to help a wine open up. Additionally, slow and careful decanting sepratated the wine from loose sediment in a ong-cellared bottle.

Today, there is significantly less sulfites in wine, so the main reasons to decant are to help the wine open up and to separate it from any sediment.

How long do you decant? Well that is something that differs for each wine (some say each bottle). Basically you taste the wine and see how it evolves. Do its aromas and flavors change and blossom?

Some wines respond to this others do not. Some take a long time to open up and others experience a precipitous decline in their bouquet.
September 27, 2007

Sonnenuhr
Gary – where is the Thursday episode? I keep checking and … NOTHING! I’m spending all my money at WL, show us some love!
September 27, 2007

Lindsay
Somebody mentioned the Wolftrap? (Sorry — new viewer here.) IMHO, that stuff tasted seriously nasty. Tire fire time — total burning rubber. But then, I’m trusting my palate.

I’ve been pleased with a Pinotage we have at work — Warwick, I think the 2004? We had it on the by-the-glass list and I don’t always pay complete attention to vintage when I’m working.

AnswerOTD: I love Golden Grahams but I don’t buy them; they’re not good for me. Hehe.
September 27, 2007

Billy
QOTD: Kix
September 27, 2007

Mark
Viva South Afican Wwne! Great episode!
More South African wines would always be nice – how about tasting some of the great Shiraz or dessert wines? Or wines from Franschoek (to beak our of the Stellenbosch/Paarl rut)?
September 27, 2007

AndrewB
QOTD: Honey Nut Cheerios
September 27, 2007

Scott Anderson
Cheerios. I don;t know why, but my whole life I have been addicted to healthy cereals like Cheerios, Wheaties, Shredded Wheat and Raisin Bran. When the sugar bomb cereals came along I never hooked up. The only sugar cereal I ever really liked was LIFE cereal, with the grains woven right in the cereal.

Keep on Rockin’ Mister Vay-Ner-Chuck!
September 27, 2007

Shad
I dig the Frosted Flakes..always have. It might just be the Tony the Tiger thing, but nonetheless, they are tasty.

Glad to see a nice showing for a Merlot even though it may have been manipulated slightly.
September 27, 2007

Kev and Ams
To Lindsay:

The Wolftrap tastes exactly like that to me too. I have tried to get Gary to review it, but no luck. I am always confused when I see the scores and reviews for that wine. I guess what Gary says is true, “trust your palette”.
September 27, 2007

Karol
Merlot is one of my favorite wines. Can’t wait to try the Peacock Ridge.
Fruit Loops.
September 27, 2007

MossyMo
Merlot is where it’s at GV! Wait until you taste the 2005 La Croix St Georges, Clos Eglise Pomerol, Labrie, Fleur Cardinale, Pipeau, Clos Oratoire…and every other Right Banker!!!
September 27, 2007

Rice
QOTD: someone mentioned QPR for cereal?… GV Bran Flakes (I eat this almost everyday) is about $1.40 a big box from WalMart. It’s not fake or a sugar bomb… just bran in flake shapes… nothing fancy
September 27, 2007

SoCalDaveBandito
QOTD: I’ll go old school and stick with my Frosted Flakes!!!
They’re Great you know

(man posting with an iPhone takes some getting used to)
September 27, 2007

Kristen
I’m excited to try these wines- I’m working tmrw and we have a South African wine tasting (which means I get to partake for free)!

QOTD: Definitely Chex Multigrain….it’s ridiculously delicious.
September 27, 2007

Kristen
And PS- trust in Lindsay, she knows her wine at Barriques!
September 27, 2007

Sassodoro
QOTD: not really a cereal guy.
September 27, 2007

Ohio Bruce
I start every morning with Frosted Mini-Wheats mixed with Wheaties to help cut the sugar. Yum!
September 27, 2007

Beno
Cocoa Pebbles. It’s my Chocolate cereal flavored crack cocaine.
That last couple spoon-fulls in the chocolate-crack-milk…….mmmmmmmm!
Not to be confused with fake-ass coco-krispies.

P.S.- I never lost faith in the Mer-lott grape. If you can find it: Willis-Hall 2003 Merlot (Columbia Valley AVA) It’s a terrific (and award-winning) example.
September 28, 2007

The Lurker Experience
Golden Grahams!
September 28, 2007

RonC
I haven’t tried any South African wines. I’m currently on a roll with New Zealand Pinot Noirs and Spanish reds. Regarding the Spanish reds, Jay Miller’s ratings have hit the nail on the head with every one I tried.

QOTD: A mix of spoon size Shredded Wheat, Basic 4, Wheat or Multi-Bran Chex and All Bran cereals with Silk brand vanilla soy milk.
September 28, 2007

indiana
Good show gary, dig the value in South Africa. Check out De Trafford. Will have to pick up a pinotage next, and see whats crackin’. I love trying new varietals.
qotd- I like grapenuts, with just enough milk. When i was a kid i liked lucky charms!
September 28, 2007

Colin
GV and CM – As a former theatre lighting dude – I’m digging the lighting this episode. Very dramatic – keep it up! Oh – and thanks for tasting some SA wines…
September 28, 2007

David
Interesting show Gary – thanks for all of the facts about S. Africa.

Grape Nuts.
September 28, 2007

JayZee
Always love those South Africa wine shows. Kudos! QOTD: Cereal? Well, I am NOT a big cereal fan. I do oatmeal (good for that cholesterol problem, you know). However, my wife is a cereal connoisseur and her favorite is Cheerios.
September 28, 2007

Lurkerdog
GVNC:

Just got back from two weeks in Portugal. Drank a lot of vinho de casa tinto. It was awesome!
Great wine. Less than 10 euros a bottle at restaurants. Gotta love that. QOTD: I’m a yogurt man.
September 28, 2007

James Roscoe
Captain Crunch! Great episope. Where can I get the Rustenberg?
September 29, 2007

Mike
Honey Nut Cheerios, baby!
September 30, 2007

Mr. Ambassador
Interesting variety of South African wines which were sampled today. Can you address what exactly has changed with the Washington State liquor laws over the last month which no longer allows you to ship to this destination? I still enjoy watching WLTV but I’m really frustrated that I can no longer receive any Wine Library shipments…

QOTD – My three favorites, one of which is always in the cupboard: Golden Grahams, Cracklin Oat Bran and Captain Crunch with Crunchberries.
September 30, 2007

Karl Laczko
I liked the sound of the Rustenberg, Cab Franc is a fave too. Shame about the Pinotage, I still have high hopes for that grape and, like you, respect S.A. winemaking, they have more to offer.

QOTD – Cereal or Serial? If Cereal then none, I don’t eat breakfast (although Muesli is OK). If Serial then Heroes is good.
September 30, 2007

Elliot Essman
Great episode. More on Pinotage in the future.

I don’t eat cereal. I usually have meat for breakfast. It reminds me I am on top of the food chain.
September 30, 2007

diego de la p....
cinnamon toast crunch!!!!!!
October 1, 2007

SoCal
QOTD: Big fan of Kix
October 1, 2007

BobMac
QOTD: Cap’n Crunch is the best.
October 3, 2007

Anthony
GV…your getting a big woody? That is too much information!!!!
October 4, 2007

Matt the Lurker
QOTD – Raspberry Oak Monster Crunch or maybe Australian Fruit Leather Loops. Oh, also, Tropical Citrus Surprise.
October 4, 2007

tarheel17
QOTD: I am in a very small minority, I know, but I really don’t like cereal.

In a pinch, though, Cookie Crisp makes a great dessert.
October 5, 2007

Michael H.
QOTD — Fruity Pebbles. No brainer…
December 3, 2007

HuskerJ
QOTD

Hot: Malt-o-Meal mix of chocolate and Maple Brown Sugar
Cold: Frosted Mini-Wheats
December 25, 2007

VinOrecul
09:17

“Im getting quite a powerful woodie”.

(in a beavis laugh) …he said woodie!
February 13, 2008

Chris Tessari
Pinotage makes an interesting style of wine. There are many hybrid varietals in America. I would be interested in watching an American-hybrid episode.
March 16, 2008

Emily Lane
addicted to cracklin oat bran
my new favorite south african wine is mulderbosch’s 2007 barrel fermented chardonnay
you should review that one!
May 7, 2008

Claudia
Gary I don’t know why i discovered this only today cause you did this review a couple of months ago. But I’m sure glad you did because South African wine is amazing. I have travelled a lot and tasted a lot and I still find South African wines are the highest quality and best value for mony. But then I’m biased considering I just adore South Africa.
May 26, 2008

Buzz
Enjoyed your SA program. I am a big fan of Rustenberg. The Merriman X is nice and sophisticated and interestingly different from year to year. Their Five Soldiers Chardonnay is my favorite white in the world. Splurge on it and Peter Barlow. Though Barlow is a lay down wine that will improve for many years to come.
June 16, 2008

Logan
Gotta check out some South African wines!

QOTD: good not-too-sweetened chunky granola, or Honey Bunches of Oats. Oh yeah.
July 8, 2008

CBone
Yo. I went to Stellenbosch back in 1998, which is a cute little town. I went to a winery called…Rust en Vrede? It was terrific, better than some of the others I went to there. But, it was cool going around there. Beautiful wine country, very dramatic.

QOTD: Kashi Heart to Heart Oat Flakes & Wild Blueberry Clusters
August 25, 2008

Dessert Wine Nerd
Never had a wine from South Africa but aside from over-oaked wines they sound very interesting and something I need to check out down the line ( theres that promise of mine once again). QOTD: Lucky charms. Classic old school. I love those damn marshmellows. Ive tried buying the cheap generic kind and its just no good. Its got to be the real deal Lucky Charms. But if not Lucky Charms, Cracklin Oat Bran. Both of those I could eat handfuls of out of the box.
August 13, 2009

Phredd
Another good episode with an excellent topic. I need to try slightly pricier wines from South Africa. The cheap stuff has been awful.

QOTD: I like cereal, and I eat plenty of it. But I think if I never had another bowl of cereal in my life, I wouldn’t care. It just isn’t addicting to me.