Keeping Promises And The Beaujolais Nouveau 2007 Is In The House.

Keeping Promises And The Beaujolais Nouveau 2007 Is In The House. – Episode #352

November 15, 2007

Gary Vaynerchuk explores 4 wines today and focuses in on a Beaujolais Nouveau 2007 and a Michigan wine and 2 very highly thought of wines

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Wines tasted in this episode:

2006 St. Julian Riesling
2007 Duboeuf Beaujolais NouveauBeaujolais
2005 Coume Del Mas SchistesLanguedoc-Roussillon
2006 Pax Alder Springs SyrahSonoma Syrah/Shiraz

Links mentioned in todays episode.

220 Responses

November 15, 2007

GrapeStuff
1
November 15, 2007

Dave Canada
2!!!
November 15, 2007

waibeans
first on the post birthday ep
November 15, 2007

waibeans
nicely done guys. the board was clean when i started typing
November 15, 2007

Hinrgman
Gary

I guess you got the # comments you asked for yesterday .. congrats
November 15, 2007

Martin
party on wayne!
November 15, 2007

Hinrgman
Are we still doing this #1 & #2 stuff????
November 15, 2007

GrapeStuff
Audio scratchy for anyone else?
November 15, 2007

carnyc
Looking forward to episode 1000. Glad to see you’re still around!
November 15, 2007

TommyBoBo of WI
top 10???? Congrats GV on the OVERWHELMING support we give you!!
November 15, 2007

Matthew L
Gary is the microphone under your shirt?
November 15, 2007

Withnail
Great – I am going to grab a bottle of the Dubouef and taste along later.
November 15, 2007

Matthew L
I’m glad St. Julian is showing up. The vineyard is not far from my hometown, and I would pass it regularly on the way to my grandparents. The problem I’ve had with St. Julian is that make all those candy and fruit-type wines. You make me proud to give my home state another chance.
November 15, 2007

Matthew L
You love the factoid that St. Julian’s is located in Paw Paw, Michigan!
November 15, 2007

garyv
NO MIC, I dont have a mic, not sure what happened, SO sorry it doesn’t last long!
November 15, 2007

Stephanie from So CA
YQOTD: I am late SORRY! Sasha.
Peace, Stephanie
November 15, 2007

Colin Devroe
Great episode and not just because you mention Viddler. Man I need to stop lurking!!!
November 15, 2007

Dave Canada
Awesome episode……gotta talk to some politicains so I can use that damn code!
QOTD – Gotta Barbera….love it!
November 15, 2007

Martin
Pillar Box Red
November 15, 2007

rmgroves
Thank you for echoing my complete and continuous confusion on why anyone would go out of their way let alone pay for BJ Nouveau. It has always been a mystery to me!!
November 15, 2007

GrapeStuff
QOTD: 2005 Wolftrap – would have NEVER picked it up, but did so on your recco – have had half a case and it has been an absolutely STUNNING QPR every time. Just had one last night in fact. The complexity this wine brings for under 10 bones is incredible. Big UPs GV!
November 15, 2007

TommyBoBo of WI
QOTD: Black Pig Albarino
November 15, 2007

GrapeStuff
btw, audio clears up after a few minutes into – may have just been the compression.
November 15, 2007

artnutx2
michigan makes wine?
November 15, 2007

Pamela
Went to Sherry Lehman to pick up a neutral red for a “smell off” I am hosting at my wine tasting group tomorrow night and Franc Debouf offered to autograph a bottle of beaujolais nouveau, so what the hey, I bought it. I like fruit juice.
November 15, 2007

Taylor
Great show, glad to see you didnt go too hard last night beign the B-day and all.
QOTD I know it’s already been said, but the Black Pig Albarino, Loved and thanks to you I tried it.
November 15, 2007

Lawrence Leichtman
Weird sound stuff in the begining. The last Beaujolias Nouveau I had was 2005 and I spit it out so fast I couldn’t imagine anyone fighting over it unless it was to get it to the dumpster. The number of wines I have tasted because of WLTV is huge. Probably 20 or more bottles of wines I had not tried and I liked most of the them. I think the biggest benefit was getting out of wine ruts more so than newer wines.
November 15, 2007

Neil
FIRST!

QOTD: Lindaflor Malbec. I really hadn’t givien Malbec a try before then.

You should ask another question: What wine have you stopped drinking since watching WLTV.
November 15, 2007

purplejuicebruce
QOTD…. I’ll try just about anything now pre WLTV I just stayed with what I knew Merlots, Cabs ,Zins and Pinots now when we go to tastings I seek out new and different wines. Thanks
November 15, 2007

Dillon Bowman
Nice show today, more mellow but still a good one. It’s no shocker you’re calmer after yesterday’s energy-blitzkrieg.

QOTD: I’m 14, can’t drink it. Never have. Honestly. So let’s say… Welch’s? (Sp?) White Grape? Lol.
November 15, 2007

Billr
Nice show again…..

QOTD: I haven’t tried it yet but plan to in the near future……
November 15, 2007

eclecto
Gary – lots of noise on the mic – Mott, if there’s a battery that needs to be changed, or a wireless phone near by; change it. (first things to try anyway)
November 15, 2007

cheapchuk
Great show!

QOTD: Cabernet Franc
November 15, 2007

Totte
GARY

QotD : A Dolcetto d’Alba i had in Nyc this september. It paired beautifully with linguine carbonara.
Thanks !

Swedish T
November 15, 2007

Jens
Gary,

It’s a good thing that you intend to taste some more wine from Languedoc. Personally I’d be happy if you tasted the reds from Domaine LÃ©on Barral in FaugÃ¨res: CuvÃ©e Jadis or ValiniÃ¨re. They rock!

Jens
from
Copenhagen
November 15, 2007

Andy
Pillar Box Red, had it the past two nights with my girlfriend (did the whole cork, refrigerate overnight, then bring back to room temp with tepid water to drink the next night thing) but it was WAY better the second night, maybe this would have done well with decanting or letting it sit longer? anyway, pretty good bottle for pretty cheap.
Thanks for the shout out on Michigan wines, I have jogged past/ through one of the vineyards where they grow those very grapes, good to know they turned out well. But whats the score on that bottle?
November 15, 2007

dulamae
I still write on my hand, but hey, it works!

QOTD: I tried a Gavi wine that I really liked, I had never even knew it existed prior to watching WLTV!
November 15, 2007

Dr T from N. Carolina
Tsk, tsk. I’m sorry I couldn’t arrange for the PA Nouveau; I’ll let you know how it is when it arrives next week. Thanks for another interesting show

“T”
November 15, 2007

Alos
sansare wine was the one wine that I have tried recently and adored! Thanks Gary
November 15, 2007

randyb
Enjoyed the show GV. You seem to be on a roll.

QOTD: During your review of Washington State wines, you reviewed a couple from Delille. What a great winery and all of the varietals are very good if not exceptional.
November 15, 2007

Fevernova
QOTD: Alamos Malbec.
November 15, 2007

Shadowbird
QOTD: Pretty much anything…I only just got into wine when I started watching the show, and I hadn’t really bought many wines before then. But I started buy more wine, and more wine from out of my region, after WLTV.
November 15, 2007

DC7
2005 Coume Del Mas Schistes Languedoc-Roussillon thanks for this one!!
November 15, 2007

stockholm
yo gary!

i can’t use the Ask Gary app on facebook because I have an apostrophe in my name. So my question for you is, what’s that about?

Paul D’Avino
November 15, 2007

Mott
Sorry about the sound everybody. I don’t know why it did that.
November 15, 2007

Dominus
Great show and thanks for the foodie book recommendation. I love those types of reads.

QOTD: Agree with GrapeStuff: Wolftrap and the CLIO are my choices.

Thanks for the offer. I’ll be sure to take advantage of it.

Cheers
November 15, 2007

Scott
Dolcetto for the win. Awesome show, thanks for the heads up on the Beaujolais Nouveau. I think I will do what I should have done last year and give it a preemptive PAZZZ.
November 15, 2007

amgryger
QOTD: This was never on the show per se, but the Lopez Heredia Vina Tondonia Rioja Crianza Rose. The other wines you have done from Lopez Heredia got me interested in this producer, and before WLTV I probably would not have bought a rose.
November 15, 2007

Alex Diaz
Good show.
Qotd: Valpolicella. Man i am in love with Corvina… Its up their with my rankings…
1.Super Tuscans
2.Valpolicella
3.Brunello
4.Rioja
5.Cab Sav
November 15, 2007

James Roscoe
Happy Birthday again! Who doesn’t like to stretch their birthday out?
November 15, 2007

TGatesman
QOTD: Chateau Haut-Brisson 2003; this wine was absolutely awesome! bye the way, I like the nice new shirt, Gary…look’in sharp!
November 15, 2007

GottaGoDrink
QOTD- It is a seriously long list of wines, but I would say Sauternes. WOW! And thanks.
November 15, 2007

Seo
QOTD- I got a whole lot of wine I’ve never tried in route from wine library and I’ll let you know if those turn me around. But most recently, your Alamos Malbec recommendation got me looking more seriously at this grape.
November 15, 2007

A-Gar
Great show today. Definitely going to have to start “asking away”.

QOTD: Without WLTV, I may never have given white wines another chance. In the past I have not really liked/enjoyed/appreciated whites, but since watching this, I’ve tried a few that were recommended, and most were good. So thank you GV and WLTV, for expanding my knowledge, expanding my palate, and expanding my heart. (Is that too much?)
November 15, 2007

Simon D
I probably would have to say Dolcetto, although Albarino is probably a close 2nd. However, I LOVE both of these now! Both of which, I tried after seeing them on your show.
November 15, 2007

chenrys
Enjoyed the show. We would have opened our bottle of Michigan Riesling if we had checked what you were drinking first. It’s not the same one you tried but still encouraging.
Wish we could get orders shipped here….darn.

QOTD: Probably several wines but Primitivo most recently.
November 15, 2007

Orion Slayer
Whoa! My head is spinning with such variety of wines today. But I LIKE that feeling! I tried a couple Beaujolais Nouveaus today (neither were the George Douboef) and they were better than last year’s, to me. But then I like fruit bombs (and the Raiders.)

QOTD: I tried Pouilly Fuisse and really liked it. Before the show where you talked about it, I was turned off to Chardonay. Then I tried a pouilly fuisse and the funny thing is that it tasted more like the way I remember (and liked) Chardonnay to taste. Keep challenging us!
November 15, 2007

Mike L
Awesome show! I was enlightened and entertained.

QOTD: I have to admit Black Pig Albarino was an eye opener for me and my girlfriend. We tore that shiz up with some broiled fish and shrimp earlier in the month. Delish!

I think I has some shopping to do now…
November 15, 2007

SoCal
QOTD: 1996 Clarendon Hills Shiraz Clarendon
November 15, 2007

BobM
Gary-

Two questions. Is the St. Julian dry or off-dry? You didn’t mention it in the show, and I think it makes a difference in food parings.

Second, have you had any Beaujolais Nouveau that you liked? Aren’t they all pretty one-dimensional?
November 15, 2007

BrianS
I think Gary just regurgitated some wine!! Gary, you’ll have to teach us the art of tasting wine that way.
November 15, 2007

Kristen
Excellent show GV! Thanks for answering my question on “Ask Gary”! I will go smell the hell outta those veggies!

QOTD: Temparnillo. I love that grape….plus the Albarino is amazing! That’s my new favorite go-to white wine!
November 15, 2007

TimF
Gary, that’s weak sauce. Why do you always pick the absolute worst BN to taste? You guys must have a few others in stock. You believe in public humiliation?
November 15, 2007

wtvLurker
qotd: wolftrap, garrigue, las rocas, bourgeuil, monkey bay, terre dora falanghina, boniface apremont.
November 15, 2007

ryptide
QOTD: Actually, I don’t recall any in particular. I’m a relatively new vayniac, and I don’t get to buy wine all that often. You did turn me on to Argentine Malbec, however!

BTW, how do I get a nice custom avatar like some of you have? I haven’t been able to find that anywhere.
November 15, 2007

JonE
Next time the Pax bug bites you have to try their Rose its fantastic, much darker in color than a typical Cali Rose. It’s basically baby Pax with a solid left hook.

QOTD: As someone said previously the Lopez de Heredia Vina Tondonia Rioja Crianza Rose 1995.
Your review was spot on, and the essences of tea in it were uncanny. Big ups G-Man.
November 15, 2007

CindyW
QOTD: I probably would have eventually tried these, but your descriptions encouraged me to get some sooner. Recently, I’ve fallen in love with sancerres — yum! I also was very curious to try pinotage after hearing you talk about the grape, and how stinky pinotage can be. So, when I was at a wine-tasting and a S. African pinotage was featured, I was prepared for the dirty garbage can smell…and a few sips later was raving about the deep, dark flavors in the glass. Very cool!
November 15, 2007

NADINE
Birbes, you, O.M.G. :O
November 15, 2007

Robert Howells
Q.O.T.D – Katnook Estate Cab/Shiraz.
November 15, 2007

Helena
I like the way you describe the wines! I can almost smell and taste the wines from your description!
YES, there is such a thing as blueberry stew! Over here, we have something which we call blueberry soup but it’s more like a stew – it sounds like a delicious syrah!
November 15, 2007

canadapete
QOTD-DISS – I went out and got a CdP (which I generally love)- Domaine font de Michelle, Cuvee Etienne Gonnet – which you put on pedestal and it was totally underwhelming! Very disappointed and missing some serious bucks. I entertained the idea, maybe a bad bottle, maybe too young, but in the end still not bring the thunder. I have your last chance to prove yourself in my cellar – the terlato shiraz-viognier which polarize you against RP – so I am really hoping you come through on that one.
November 15, 2007

Sumit
Hey Gary, can’t you at least iron your shirt after removing it from the packaging??? Very subpar maneuver on your part.
November 15, 2007

Withnail
Had the Duboeuf while watching the ep.
Sorry G – you are way off. 67 points? That is a solid 72+ wine and I can see it maturing into a 73-74 point-type wine by next week.
November 15, 2007

Paul
QOTD: I went out and splurged on a bottle of ‘94 Dow’s, never expecting to notice a difference with the usual 30$ bottle of port. The result? Amazing!

Keep up the great work.
November 15, 2007

Sue Z.
QOD – Cohors, albarino, dolcetto, & godello. Thanks GV;-)
November 15, 2007

Kev and Ams
QOTD: Blue Nun. j/k
November 15, 2007

TROC
I’m with you on the Noveau. You’ve gotten me to try many, but the latest was a Grego Tempranillo I got at Cost Plus for 10 bucks, loved it.
November 15, 2007

sarah f
happy belated b-day!
QOTD:well i don’t believe you did this wine on WLTV but i would have never tried the Rhone Rebel 2005 Cotes du Rhone GSM if i had never watched your show…if it were not for you i would have never known about this fabulous wine store that is only 1 short hour from my house in nj and i would have never spoken to the kindest gentleman at wine library (and i’m sorry i don’t know his name) who took this $5.99 wine off the shelf and put it into my cart without my consent, promising that i would like it. well i did and heck, it’s cheap as hell too, which i love.
November 15, 2007

cgatesman
QOTD: A couple come to mind…Black Pig AlbariÃ±o and Cote du Rhones, in general.
November 15, 2007

BiggRigg
Thanks for the free shipping Gary. Picked me up a couple of bottles of the 2005 Coume Del Mas Schistes.
November 15, 2007

Craig MacDonald
QOTD: That’s easy! The last six bottles I ordered from WL, which were also the first six I ordered, thanks to the fact that AZ was finally opened up to shipments and GV handed out a free shipping offer a couple of weeks back. I’m drinking the Nec-Otium Pinot Grigio right now, thanks to your glowing recommendation and I agree – an outstanding QPV.
Guess what I’ll be doing tomorrow. (Hint: it has to do with the next six bottles!)
November 15, 2007

David
I was just at Trader Joe’s and saw an entire endcap full of the Beaujolais Nouveau. Gave it a pazzzz. You make me glad that I did.
November 15, 2007

Tommy Vernieri
QOTD: 2003 Ballast Stone Petit Verdot

For $10 (on free.winelibrary.com) that stuff was awesome. I just picked up some Ken Rasmussen PV from Wine.Woot! and I’m pumped about trying that. I’m slowly trying more French wines too, very excited to see a Bordeaux in the pack.

Thank you for the free shipping! I’m really trying to not buy any more wine this month but that Coume del Mas Schistes sounds right up my alley. Out of my normal price range but I’m going to go for it anyway.

Penney sent you a pumpkin cheesecake, I hope you’re in town tomorrow!
November 15, 2007

Gotsha
QOTD ‘04Turnbull Cab. Gary gave it a hug thumbs up on the show and he was right, silky smooth kick-ass Napa Cab at a decent price.
November 15, 2007

JimKay
Thanks for the FSing – QOTD – Contado, Turnbull, Hermit Crab, Amon Ra, Togni, Shotfire Ridge, Clio
November 15, 2007

winelover4ever
hey gary after all those toy gifts you got on your bday I’m wonderig, Did you ever had childhood ????? …..jeejejejeje…. kidding big guy !!!
November 15, 2007

Jeff - CLT
QOTD: Black Pig Albarino
November 15, 2007

dz
QOTD would be the Avaton 2003 from Greece which was fantastic especially the 2nd day.
November 15, 2007

RaiderNation
QOTD: Priorat. Never would’ve even given it a second thought – and now it is maybe one of my top 3 regions, and quickly taking up space in my basement.
November 15, 2007

Dale Cruse
QOTD: Bourgueil!

I wish I could get free shipping in Massachusetts. Hell, I wish I could get ANY wine shipping to Massachusetts.
November 15, 2007

Steve Canuck
Gary, re QOTD… I would never have tried the 2005 d’Arenberg ‘The Hermit Crab’ Marsanne Viognier. I absolutely loved it… and ended up really enjoying many many of the d’Arenberg wines… so thanks.

Steve
November 15, 2007

Ara D
You know, I’ve never had beaujolais nouveau before tonight and frankly, it tastes like dirty wet socks after a rainstorm. It’s even doing to my tongue what the wet socks do to my feet.

Oh well, I knew I probably wasn’t going to like it, and at least I know how wine can smell like socks now.
November 15, 2007

PeterT
QOTD: Ben Marco Malbec, Turnbull Cabernet, growers Champagne,
November 15, 2007

CUSE WINO
QOTD- Ercavio. Would not have tried Tempranillo unless you turned me on to it.

Free shipping offers do not work as a bribe for me because I live around the corner from WL. I am still waiting for my keys to the store.
November 15, 2007

chrisb
QOTD: Petite Verdot, many others too numerous to mention.
November 15, 2007

Skol
Since watching your show I have started trying wines from many more regions.
One of the wines which I tried because of the Wine Library TV is the Mabileau Bourgeuil St. Nicolas.
Love the wine. I enjoyed bothe the 2005 and the 2004.

I also started trying other Loire wines which I am not sure you reviewed. A great one I recently tried was the Jasnieres. Great quality for the price.

Thanks Gary
November 15, 2007

Adam
QOTD: Faunus Primitivo Di Manduria 2005 (because it was the closest thing I could find to Felline Primitivo) Major steal for $12
November 15, 2007

tarheel17
QOTD:
Tintoralba Crianza. LOVED it. THanks for the rec!
Now, if you would only ship to WA, I”d be all over that free shipping code! So sad….
November 15, 2007

Sa
Let go of the un-impressed traditions, 100% agreed! I tried Beaujolais one year and didn’t understand what all the fuss was about. Now I know how much value I can get with just 10 bones, I would not waste it on other Beaujolais like wines.. Thanks Gary and the WLTV.—I watch and I learn.. .
November 15, 2007

Cookiedds
Nice ep. A wine that was totally off my radar before your show was the Boudreaux Cabernet from Rob Newsom. I have 5 bottles of the ‘04 Cab in the cellar and loved the one we took out to dinner (review in the forums, corked and CT).
November 15, 2007

C-Lo
Good show Gary. The St. Julian comes from my neck of the woods – the winery is just down the road from where I grew up! Thanks for showing some love to Michigan! QOTD: without WLTV, I never would have tried the Berco Do Infante Estremadura Reserva, and I never would have realized what a love affair with wine looks like! Keep it real.
November 15, 2007

Pastafari Pirate
QOTD: Oh, man, 2 dozen or 3 dozen great wines that I would’ve never tried — would’ve never even heard of — if it weren’t for WLTV. But I will narrow it down to one that I truly adore most, the greatest QPR ever, the kickassingest $20 wine in history, Castano Hecula.
November 15, 2007

The Fanjestic
#100 – The Lurkers only come out when you threaten to quit – and nobody shows up to say thank you for the free shipping? BUSH LEAGUE!!

Gary – great show, Hope the B-day went well, THANKS FOR THE FREE SHIPPING! The Fort Worth Jerks will be buying their Thanksgiving Tasting wine from you – we even got the Thanksgiving wine pack! (I’m getting the wristband – as long as I win the drawing)

Basically every bottle I have bought so far I wouldn’t have without the guidance of wine library!
As I sit here writting this I’m drinking the Villa Fanelli Primitivo Zeta which I actually like more than the Felline Primitivo Di Manduria 2005 which you rated higher – which just goes to show that you gotta listen to the taste profile and not the scores!

Oh by the way – before we cracked open the Villa Fanelli, we finished the Berco Do Infante Estremadura Reserva 2005 which you nailed right on the head!

Don’t worry – we don’t just buy the cheap stuff – we’re just testing to see if our palates can really tell the difference between high and low priced wines. So far we can, but there have been some big surprises. My wife does a better job than myself – I can’t even compete.

Thanks again for the free shipping – that really helps the wallet of a vayniac with a $100 palate and a $10 wallet. (Maybe it’s closer to $50 and $25)
November 15, 2007

Grapedigger
Good show. Well, you draw my attention to Albarino and Prosecco. Cheers
November 15, 2007

Jeremy
Yo GV (and Ma):
what’s up with the cracking sound during some of the recent episodes?
kinda annoying…and it’s coming through the site and podcast…
great show!
November 15, 2007

EricB
QOTD – Terlato & Chapoutier Shiraz/Viognier
and to a lesser extent, Albarino
Thanks Gary
November 15, 2007

Robin C.
Maybe the Wine World can think of something to substitute for Beaujolais – maybe a Rose.
QOTD: albarino
November 15, 2007

Norbert
Hmmm… No mention of going over 1000 comments weird. Nice to see that Gary is staying with us.
QOTD: Chateau Picau-Perna Saint-Emilion 2004
November 15, 2007

Jewels
Thank you for the free shipping, Gary!

QOTD: Pillar Box Red 2005. I loved your description of it a long time back, sounded exactly like something I would enjoy, and it definitely was. ESPECIALLY with it rolling in at less han 10 bucks.
November 15, 2007

Jewels
Oh, and the Hermit Crab viognier as well. I really wasn’t a big white wine fan until I saw your review, thought it sounded interesting, tried it, loved it, and came back with renewed faith in white wines and have since found a few more that I really adored.
November 16, 2007

mrzitro
QOTD: If it werenâ€™t for your show, I would have never tasted some fabulous white varietals like AlbariÃ±o, Verdejo, Greco, etc. I really enjoyed the Black Pig AlbariÃ±o.
Thanks, GV…sorry kids, Santa won’t be bringing you a Wii this year.
November 16, 2007

E
OK, that languedoc sounds like good fun. Pity I don’t have a facebook.

QOD: Rioja, all day long. Hammond pinot and Noblaie Chinon, both of which kicked all kinds of ass. I’d say Godello, but I’m saving it for a turkey-day aperitif, I think.
November 16, 2007

Brianna
Wow! I love that book! I’m a waitress at a great bistro in San Jose and this book has now been passed around several of our staff members. I wish everyone would at least read her “tips” for diners, which should seriously be published in every major newspaper. If people only knew how much more fun a great restaurant can be when you know how to let the pros take care of you. Relax people! Great food + great wine + great service = experience to be savored, not controlled.

That said, thanks for keeping this up, I can’t tell you what a great resource these shows are for those of us who depend on our knowledge of food and wine for a living!
November 16, 2007

Grape Expectations
Maybe you could do an episode on real Beaujolais sometime. It’s a nice wine, I think, when it’s no longer nouveau.

QOTD: I doubt I would ever have tried an Albarino if it weren’t for you. Now it’s my second favorite white wine.
November 16, 2007

Mason
Thanks for the show, Gary! Looks like another Languedoc wine that I am going to have to seek out. I, too don’t see what the big deal about BN is. So it is a rushed wine to celebrate the new harvest. Fine. I can see that. Hearing someone in a wine store say, “I just bought a whole case!” with a huge smile, is puzzling to me.

QOTD: I heard you talk many times about wines that have more of a veggie aspect vs. a more fruity component, but I really hadn’t experienced that until I went to a wine tasting for high end Cabernet. As I tasted several of these wines, I found a few that I tasted that immediately sent off veggie signals in my brain, and I LOVED IT! I found one in particular called Peju Province 2003 Cab Sauv Reserve from Napa Valley that was outstanding!
November 16, 2007

David
Gary, please don’t wear shirts right out of the package anymore, very tacky. Great show!!
November 16, 2007

Rice
QOTD: Washington and Boudreaux.

Thanks!! But go read my question on Facebook about doing the Wine Spectator type of education on WLTV

Oh… and thanks again… placed another order, the wife is getting mad at you but I’m buying to give to friends… not for me

I’ll buy for me next time you do an awesome code.
November 16, 2007

Rajiv A
It’s crazy, but I haven’t drunk a single wine since I’ve started watching wine library TV. What can I say – exams week.

So now I’m positively in pain with a hundred wines I want to try and no time at all!

I’m excited for thanksgiving.
November 16, 2007

Rico
QOTD: little penguin shiraz
November 16, 2007

JamesN.
Gary,
QOTD;I thought I was past chardonnay, but when you reccomended Step Road and a couple of white Burgs, I tried and did a total turnaround. thanks!
November 16, 2007

medo
QOTD: 2004 Molise Aglianico “Contado” DOC! Great shot from Italy!
November 16, 2007

Laurent
Hi Gary,
I am watching a lot of your show and I really enjoy it.
Today the Beaujolais Nouveau comment made me a bit disappointed as it was not presented well. We all know that Beaujolais nouveau is not about a fantastic wine it is simply a wine which is made to celebrate the end of harvest and respecting all the people who where involved. Going through Carbonic fermentation it does keep the freshness and suit perfectly what is meant to match, barbecue or other party meal.
I have to say there is a lot of producer out there beside George Duboeuf who make probably better balanced fresh and fruity wine to suit the event. For saying that USA is number 3 world wide of Beaujolais Nouveau consumptionâ€¦
November 16, 2007

vibemore
I remember the good ole days when I started watching WLTV and WL was still shipping to WA state. Majorly bummed about missing the free shipping!!!!
November 16, 2007

PFORTY
QOTD: Dolcetto and Barbera in general as well as the Catsle Rock Pinot! Thanks!

Great Episode, no great week of episodes so far. Can’t wait for Friday’s episode.
November 16, 2007

Ryan D
QotD: There are a couple that come to mind. Specifically the Big Moose Red which was surprisingly tasty for such an inexpensive wine, and the Primitivo was very good as well.
November 16, 2007

geoffroy
Hi Gary,
happy birthday — a bit late but OK with me because it comes with the arrival of the Beaujolais Nouveau, and your bashing comes close to my French heart — who could never understand, nor comprehend — this marketing hype of fake pleasures!
so here’s my gift : I’ve pinned down the two momentum episodes, when you revved up your coming — on episode 79, it became “…Vayner-chuk”, and on episode 111 THE big jump : “Vay-ner-chuk”. The guns where now ready to blast!
Trivia, certainly, but isn’t that part of any pleasure…
Geoff
November 16, 2007

Daniel O
I don’t understand the whole Nouveau craze myself. I bought a bottle last year for the first time and was totally disappointed by it. It is definitely a modern wine marketing miracle. However, I have to say I think that Champagne is THE wine marketing miracle. But that’s neither here nor there.

QOTD: No one specific wine per se, but I have tried Albarino because of WLTV!
November 16, 2007

misswinegirl
Thanks Gary for tasting a wine from Michigan! Yes, there are actually 50 winery’s in this great state! I would say you can’t go wrong with a Riesling from Michigan!!!

Cheers to all!
November 16, 2007

Kirk
QOTD: Well…I guess all in all there are not many wines that I’m not willing to try first & formost. However, I will credit my attempts to even out my cellar to watching WLTV. I’m trying to get a few more “long term” whites in my cellar beyond Sauternes, Chardonnay, and Riesling…cheers. Great Show.
November 16, 2007

scvarsity7
Gary, thanks for checking out St. Julian. I would absolutely love an all MI wine show, what can I say… I’m a little selfish. :p

QOTD – I’m deciding what my first WL purchase should be… thanks for the free shipping too.
November 16, 2007

joel Delon
Hi gary, Thank you once again for focusing on Languedoc wines !
I liked your spontaneous reaction while tasting
Huge work has been done here in Languedoc beleive me !
Faithfully a languedoc winemaker…
November 16, 2007

KNode
QOTD: I think WLTV has turned my attention to new varietals of wine that I did not know about before (i.e. Primitivo, Zinfandel, Sangiovese), but the problem is that I have a difficult time finding a lot of the specific labels here in Texas. Whenever I DO find one though, my husband makes fun of how excited I get! I have tried a couple of Mollydookers after the infamous episode and I enjoyed the Pillar Box Red that you had on one of the laid-back Fridays. I have a list of some of the more expensive wines that you’ve loved so that I can try one on a special occasion sometime.

I’m really looking forward to my Thanksgiving 4-pack! It’s being delievered today!
November 16, 2007

italianwinelover
Good Show GV!!! St. Julian is a nice place to visit too and they have surprisingly decent wines!! Glad you found a good one! Always loved the wines from the Languedoc region, can’t wait till you discover more from there. Will seek this one out!

Thanks for the free shipping your always thinking of us!!

QOTD: Tocai from Italy…I never would have even THOUGHT to enjoy a white wine that much! You have opened my eyes to many new adventures…Sancerre is fabulous too because of you! Your palate seems to match what I look for so its nice to have a guide!! THANKS!
November 16, 2007

cgf
WOTD: wines i started checking out more because of WLTV: priorat, barbera, dolcetto (not my thing), cru beajolais; producers i had never heard of like patty green, jacob franklin, philip togni; grapes i had never heard of like verdello and ribolla giallo.

this service is fantastic.
November 16, 2007

Jayhitek
QOTD: Trinchero Merlot.
The lable, the price, the Merlot.. None of it really appealed to me when I passed it in the isles. Then Gary reviewed it and gave it a thumbs up.. So I tried it.
It was pretty good.
It’s a good go-to for inexpensive wines.
November 16, 2007

Sean
QOTD
Mabileau St. Nicolas de Bourgueil
Borgo Dei Vassalli – Pinot Grigio doesn’t have to taste like water
Aries Merlot
many others but htese come off top of head.
November 16, 2007

JoeyB
Hey Gary-

Well done! Thanks for the heads up on the Beaujolais Nouveau. I’m going to a party tonight to taste this year’s batch. I’m going to set my expectations low so that maybe the Beaujolais will surprise. Can’t wait to try the 2005 Coume Del Mas Schistes.

Great show once again!
November 16, 2007

Bonzo
QOTD: Cambiata Tannat. I loved this wine with its deep chocolates, dark berries, and slight astringency (pucker factor). Plus Tannat wines in the Madiran style are purported to be very healthful for the heart. Kudos to the maker, and thanks for reviewing this wine!
November 16, 2007

knudwig
Casa Marin. Great wine, would have never found it on my own.
November 16, 2007

MikeP
QOTD: I LOVED the 2001 Quivera Anderson Ranch Zinfandel. I LOVE Quivera. Period
November 16, 2007

BoiseBob
Blueberry Stew? How about an Olive Soup?
November 16, 2007

Bill H
2004 Nova Serra Greco di Tufo. I don’t think you did that one on the show but you did one GDT and I’ve been trying all sorts of varietals and regions since I started watching that I doubt I would have otherwise and this one was really a hit
November 16, 2007

Jason S.
QOTD: I ordered a case of the Boudreax Cellars Cab and I love, love, LOVE it!
November 16, 2007

John
Are you trying to tell us you don’t write things on your hand in pen?
November 16, 2007

chenin
NIce show, your the best,.

QOTD: Hmm, none, sadly. Most are not readily available in Europe.
November 16, 2007

Matthew Este
Gary, I don’t know why more retailers don’t recommend Beajolais-Villages over Nouveau.
November 16, 2007

Colin
GV – thanks for the tip re: 2005 Coume Del Mas Schistes. Keep it up yo!
November 16, 2007

Big Nick
Love the show, have become hooked on WLTV. The wife thinks I am nuts, but hey she should have already known that. Thanks for the heads up on the 2005 Coume Del Mas. Some friends and I are trying to set time to check out the St. Julian Winery in Mi, what great insight today. Keep it up.
November 16, 2007

Paul Horan
I was at a Beaujolais Nouveau party last nite here in DC. First time I’d ever tried it… Probably the last! What the hell is that??? I’ll spend $10 on a bottle of In Situ Carmenere instead!

QOTD: Seghesio Zinfandel. Very nice!

Paul in DC
November 16, 2007

Susan
QOTD: Several come to mind. First of all the Torbreck Barossa GSM. The Vinum Chenin Blanc. The Bandol Rose.
Just a few. I would have only been drinking Merlots and Cabs were it not for you GARY!!!!!
Thanks!!!
November 16, 2007

RB
GV,
QOD: Greco Di Tufo and other Italian whites with pizza. Never would have picked a white for pizza. Changing the world!!!-:)
November 16, 2007

Micha
Thanks Gary for another solid show. Nice comment-amount yesterday
I really don’t understand why Beaujolais Nouveau is still requested?
Everybody knows it’s a very very simple red, and for that effort quit expensive.
How can this still work? The only reason coming to mind is, the marketing,
the bottles look nice, and lots of customers (without noses and palates?)
who just drink the wine without giving further attention.
November 16, 2007

Loweeel
allan scott sauv blanc
November 16, 2007

Timothy
Hey Gary, way to be a buzzkill. Youâ€™re always going on about how wine ought to be fun and enjoyable and how we ought to forget all the snobbery surrounding it. Well, whatâ€™s less pretentious than Beaujolais Nouveau? Marketing gimmick? Absolutely. Tastes like grape juice? At best. But are people having parties every year to celebrate the release of Opus One? No one I know is. People celebrate the B-N release not because it’s good wine but because it’s a fun idea to ring in the new “wine” from the new harvest. Because, after all, the harvest — the farming — is what wine is all about. So, hand it to Georges Duboeuf and the rest of the French B-N makers: They’ve accomplished just what you’ve been after. They’ve made wine fun — at least one day per year. So check yourself, Sir Gary. You sounded an awful lot like a wine snob today.
November 16, 2007

Kinglurker
GV your just a cool cat, and chris with his many comments on the vid is also a cool cat. Yeah and thanx to viddler for allowing chris to add his commentary
November 16, 2007

brandon
I actually saw a guy at my local Holiday Market buying 2 bottles of the 2007 Duboeuf Beaujolais Nouveau. For some strange reason I felt compelled to say “you know, Gary Vaynerchuk said that wine is really terrible.” But I could just see him saying “what the hell is a vaynerchuk?!” so I politely said nothing.
November 16, 2007

JerseyGirl turned CNY vayniac
QOTD: Gary, you talked me into trying Dolcetto and thank you cause it’s awesome!
November 16, 2007

Dusty
i would have never (or atleast not for a long while) tried a brunello if i hadn’t been watching wltv. so thank you gary. an expensive habit, but now a necessary one.
November 16, 2007

akellner
The Four Vines Naked Chardonnay and the Boudreaux Cabernet. Naked Chardonnay would have eluded me but its the answer to my complaint about oaked chards from CA AND without WLTV I never, never would have even considered Washington Cabernet, no way no how!
November 16, 2007

akellner
PS got my Thanksgiving package yesterday, looking forward to the show to share the wines.
November 16, 2007

Michael
QOTD: I would have never tried an Aglianico, no reason, just wouldn’t have.

…and the 2004 Coviv Aglianico Del Vulture RULES!
November 16, 2007

Brooklyn Paul
QOTD: Clio baby! I would have never bought that.
November 16, 2007

billyg
The 2003 Bovard Epesse Terre A Boire. I know very little about Swiss wine so having a recommendation encouraged me to try new things.
November 16, 2007

HungryChuck
QOTD – ‘02 Charles Creek Merlot… very nice, would never have found it in the cluttered array of choices at the local mart. thanks GV!
November 16, 2007

MtnCharlie
Hey, Already got the Frank Family! You can’t go changing it up on me

QOTD: Someone already mentioned it but, the Cambiata Tannat. It was a case of being at my local wine shop and seeing it on the shelf and having the vague notion it was the same one you had raved on. It was so yummy, I bought a couple more bottles to share. Thanks!
November 16, 2007

David James
If you want the lurkers to post more, you should ALWAYS threaten to stop doing episodes…
November 16, 2007

Tursiops
Answer to the question of the day:

In one of the last episodes you talked about sincerre, and for once I knew what to choose on the wine list in the restaurant, that’s a big change for me!
I choose the sincerre knowing you recommended it, I was with my parents and they loved it! I loved it too BTW.
So thank for this little piece of you!

So have a great wine day!

Cheers!
November 16, 2007

malliemcg
Loving the episodes!

Wine I loved probably would not have tried pre WLTV – Tenuda del Barco – Palmento 2004 (Primativo from Italy) – delicious!

Love the sound of the Pax (well the Barossa is local to me, so new-world stuff has appeal)
November 16, 2007

MikeH
QOTD – Italian wines. In particular the Felline Primitivo Di Manduria and the Altesino that you sold out of yesterday.
November 16, 2007

Badger Ann
Hi Gary:

I don’t think there’s a particular wine I’ve sought out since watching WLTV, but the early episode on why you should decant your wine (using Amon Ra shiraz) really made a big difference in how I was able to better appreciate wine.
November 16, 2007

Your friend down under
Regardless of how beajolais tastes there is still a mystique about it. There is something appealing about a wine that get sent all over the world at midnight as fast as is possible to be consumed very quickly in Europe, China, Australia, America etc.
November 16, 2007

Lyn S
QOTD: Felline Primitivo Di Manduria Changed my life. Period. I’ll never be a Cab snob again!
November 16, 2007

ktw
QOTD: Valpolicella, Dolcetto, and Aglianico – i am obsessed with all of them and never would have tried without you, love you for that gv really
November 16, 2007

Withnail
Where is today (Friday)’s episode?!?
November 16, 2007

james marinello
The odessey?!?!? Yes!!! We were too poor to have and atari so we got and odessey!! The racing game rocks!
November 16, 2007

Denise Smith
Question of the day…. We had never tried a Barbera unitil watching the “Thunder Show”, this evening we opened a Barbera D’Allba, 05 and it was spectacular. Thanks for helping to enrich our wine enjoyment Gary, we love watching your podcast.
November 16, 2007

Harley Stan
Great show today, there is a Beaujolais Nouveau party at a local restaurant this weekend that we were thinking about attending. Mind is till not made up aobut going.
QOTD Priorat wines
November 17, 2007

Eagleputt
GV – I have been watching the show for a month or so. It’s the latest in a year long wine education effort which has included a trip to Napa / Senoma (where I toured Sloan’s ultra exclusive winery by the way – an incredible experience), to barrel tasting at Dellile Cellars in WA state. I have fallen in love with Quilceda Creek and Leonetti, and discovered a fantastic winery in WA called Fielding Hills – they are making great wine. My neighbor owns two Italian restaurants in Seattle and has shared a lot of Italian wine and food with me which has been fantastic. Which brings me to the QOTD. I ordered a case of the Barbera Dâ€™Allba, 05, and broke open the first bottle last night. My wife and I loved it. I have also ordered some of the Frank Family Zin and will probably order up some of the Schistes reviewed today. I enjoy the show a lot. Thanks for the effort.
November 17, 2007

Denis
Awesome show Gary! Thanks. I agree, I have been consistently underwhelmed by Georges DeBoeuf recently. Earlier years in 80s and 90s were the heyday.
November 17, 2007

Lyn S
We missed you Friday!
November 17, 2007

Barb
Saw you on Conan. Instead of a sweaty sock try Captain Crunch cereal.

Barb
November 17, 2007

YoungDave
YES FREE SHIPPING!!

QOTD: The answer is CAHORS…and CHABLIS…and SANCERRE!! Some great suggestions by Gary throughout my time as a Vayniac, and these are only a few…thanks again.
November 17, 2007

Hugh
QOD- Fleur des Pins 2005
November 17, 2007

Nathan L
Black Pig Albarino and Sunday Morning SB are the two individual wines I never would have even known existed and LOVED without WLTV.
As far as varietals go, I admit it. Before WLTV I had tried 2 or 3 dolcetto’s and wasn’t impressed. I thought they were 8-10 dollar wines, that cost 15-20 bucks. After your dolcetto episode I gave them another shot and now they are some of my favorites. It goes to show you can’t make an assumption about a varietal from 2 examples.
November 17, 2007

Tursiops
Here is a little poem about beaujolais:

Brilliant cut and shiny,
You prepare to accommodate,
The liquid of the ground.
The one which,
Gathered in good season,
Triturated carefully,
You will release,
A dress,
A scent,
A colour.
You border the lips,
You will return in this body,
Youâ€™re going to exhilarate .
Like the one which,
Attracted by the girl in beauty,
Will border its lips,
Then roll up its dress,
Feel its flower,
Appreciate its colour,
To finish in his body,
Finally to,
Make her head turn.

More poems from me available at: http://tursiops33.deviantart.com
November 17, 2007

B-727
Great QotD. I don’t have an answer, but it was a great question.
November 17, 2007

KennyPetersenII
Good to see Michigan Wines entering the mix, great show. Loved Conan O’Brian as well!!!!
November 17, 2007

Scott
Gary:
Congrats on all the great birthday gifts. You forgot to point out you got that shirt yesterday too.
Anyway, great QOTD. You mentioned with the Coume Del Mas Schistes we need to write it down on a post it note, on your hand, text yourself, etc. For me, having the google notebook on my browser is awesome for this. Anyway, looking there now, at the top of my “GV shopping list” for my next wine buying binge is to try some Primitivo.
November 18, 2007

DARREL LAS VEGAS
NOUVEAU DAY 3 SATURDAY
IN THE RETAIL BIZ STILL AMAZES ME, ITS SO F**KING BAD YEAR IN YEAR OUT!
STILL SOLD 12 CASES AND COUNTING!
November 18, 2007

Elliot Essman
Thanks for the straight talk about Beaujolais Nouveau. Tried it on Thursday myself. Yuk. Tired of hearing about the stuff. There is so much better Beaujolais out there for just a few dollars more, and so many alternate wines for the same price.
November 18, 2007

Karl Laczko
QOTD – Aglianico, I’d never heard of that grape until I saw the episode a few months back, it got me into a whole bunch of Southern Italian wines.
November 18, 2007

kevin
qotd: kim crawford sauvignon blanc 2006.

all thanks to winelibrary!
November 18, 2007

HipandKneeDoc
Grats on the Jets….picked em as an upset special myself…
November 18, 2007

lee
Gary,

The Jets and Clemens gave you the best birthday present. Congrats.

Lee
November 18, 2007

xibjou
La Noblaie Chinon Les Chiens-Chiens 2004
Most Delectable!
November 19, 2007

Panoca
Great win against the Steelers!!
November 19, 2007

ThomasS
Hi, I’m on again. Still doing great. Love that.
QOTD: Napa-Cabs, Staglin, Mondavi, Napanook and all that. Good, but didn’t change my viewon them.
November 19, 2007

J Weezy
ï¼±ï¼¯ï¼´ï¼¤ï¼šBodegas Gil Luna’s Gil Luna. What a nice wine!
November 19, 2007

TrGnSnyd
A wine show that I watch on the internet sometimes, but it is so much more, how can you rate the influence you have had on my wine lexicon, you have opend this book that was so forbidden until now.

I’m drinking the wine right now, it smells like jersy frizzed out super hair, strawberries, and bananas. It better with chocolate and I bet you could pour it on ice cream. Drink the shit, it’s Tradition damnit!
November 19, 2007

TrGnSnyd
lit match aroma comes from sulfer, matches have sulfer, and you are detecting sulfer from bottling. It will fade with time, so I’m told.

I want a big glass, but people see it, and they all want one too, do you ignore their wants, or do yo rub it in their face and just show your superiority via over the top glass ware?

Blueberry stew, call it macerated blueberries.

I see you have a fear-the-cop complex, what have you been doing?

The free shipping for insiders, it’s very gangster, I like it.
November 19, 2007

Cassie
The beaujolais nouveau sounds a lot like this very sour 2002 pinot noir from Romania that my grandmother and I opened the other day.

Grandma also makes blueberry soup, ironically, especially in the winter and whenever blueberries are in season.
November 19, 2007

drydrew
Hay! Are you on the writers strike?
November 19, 2007

wayno da wino
Yo Gv!! WHAAAAAZ ZUUUUUUP?? )
How ’bout dhem JETS??!? Maybe they’ll
run da table now!! Yoooooooo! )
November 19, 2007

T. Holland
Awesome episode. QOTD: Albarino- It is just fantasic. Bought the Black Pig that you showed a few months ago & it blew me away. Have had 3 other albarino’s as well, but the Black Pig was by far the best.
November 19, 2007

dealbhadair
Hello again, everyone!!!
(Been away for a couple months… I have no excuse… I’m a loser…)

QOD: Di Majo Norante Contado Aglianico!
November 19, 2007

Superfly
I agree, it’s great to see a Michigan wine. North west Michigan is some of the most beautiful wine country you’ll come across. Well worth the trip. Most wineries make a very nice Riesling. Also worth seeking out are the Penninsula Cellars Gewurztraminer Old Mission Peninsula Maningold Vineyard, the sparkling wines from L. Mawby Vineyard Leelanau Peninsula, and wines from Chateau Fontaine. For years I’ve dismissed most reds from Michigan, however, the 2005 Brys Estate Pinot Noir was a very, very nice effort.

QOTD – White wines from Campania (especially Greco di Tufo)
November 19, 2007

John J.
QOTD: I would have never ventured into Italian wines without WLTV. For reasons I can’t understand, I was always intimidated (still am a bit).
November 19, 2007

Greite
Good show again, Gary. I appreciate you reviewing the Nouveau. I’ve been wondering how this year’s was going to be. I haven’t had a decent one for several years at least. I’m with you, I don’t understand what the big deal is.

QOTD: Petite Verdot and Malbecs. I’ve been looking for them and trying them since I heard you recommend them.
November 21, 2007

HuskerJ
Just had a customer at the store return an entire case of the 2007 Deboeuf Beaujolais Nouveau and lots of reports that our customers are not liking it. Take that for what it’s worth.
November 21, 2007

JC
Great review on the Beaujolais my wife and I were engaged in Paris 4 years ago, we landed the Friday morning after the release of the Beaujolais, Drank it all during our trip and even got hammered on it a few times. We buy it because of sentimental reasons, but it sucked the last 2 years.
November 21, 2007

Terry
I live in Michigan so, I chose this episode to show to my sister-in-law (who was visiting us) your show. Her 6 year old son was in the room and watching as well. We had just finished watching the segment on ‘Coume Del Mas Schistes’. Next thing you know he took a sip of his Knudsen Organic Lemonaid and said, with the corresponding hand gestures, “this is incredible,WOW, I love it, this is serious!”

We laughed like crazy!

TDC
November 22, 2007

Dan-o
I watched your episode where you tried Four Vines Naked Chardonnay.
For the price point and your enthusiasm, I went out and found it.
It is now my “house” Chardonnay – the one you always have 4-6 bottles of in the event someone drops in.
November 26, 2007

JayZee
QOTD: Amisfield Pinot Noir – simply an awesome, big Pinot and I love it!
December 18, 2007

rob b.
QOTD: would have to say the Razon from episode 98. After that episode, I made my first trip to WL. Wish I had bought more.
February 17, 2008

sev
great show, though I disagree with you about the nouveau. not about the quality of the wine, because that is up to the individual palate. but about what it does for the wine world. it may be a shameless marketing scam, but it is something a lot of people look forward to each year. it is all about community for me. I get a lot of joy knowing that around the world people are doing the same thing.

QOTD: You tried the Colome Malbec, which I haven’t had, but I saw their Torrontes and gave that a try. One of the most aromatic wines I have ever had!
October 20, 2008

Dessert Wine Nerd
QOTD: A Beaujolais. Paired it with beef bourguignon (yes made with a real Burgandy *wink*) that was fantastic. They both complimented each other very well.
January 7, 2009

nnothing
qotd: any of the gruner veltliners i’ve had… it was really more the book than the show, but i never would have even thought of austrian wine if not for gary.
July 11, 2009

fatseany
tracked down a bottle of Palladius by the sadie family after watching episode 453, UNREAL…thanks GV
September 8, 2009

richardvinifera
QOTD: I’ve bought several blends/styles/varietal wines after learning about them on WLTV episodes but haven’t got around to cracking them open yet. I must say my impression of riesling was dominated by cheap sweet german stuff. However after trying dry riesling from Germany, Alsace and NZ.
October 8, 2009

Phredd
QOTD: Cult Vines Roussane. Never would have spent that kind of money on a roussane without the wine club. Great wine. Would never have tried Les Fleurs des Pins Graves, either. Spectacular value.