New Zealand White Wine And A Book

New Zealand White Wine And A Book – Episode #366

December 7, 2007

Gary Vaynerchuk has a very special guest on the thunder show and we talk about NZ wines!

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“Great show and guest. I like the guy and just might have to look into…” by Dessert Wine Nerd
“QOT: My favourite pie? So here is my grandma’s recipe I’m making publi…” by Valentin
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Wines tasted in this episode:

2006 Allan Scott RieslingNew Zealand Riesling
2006 Hunters Sauvignon BlancNew Zealand Sauvignon Blanc
2006 Sherwood Sauvignon BlancNew Zealand Sauvignon Blanc

Links mentioned in todays episode.

First Big Crush: The Down and Dirty on Making Great Wine Down Under on Amazon.com

206 Responses

December 7, 2007

GrapeStuff
1
December 7, 2007

Mojave Joe
I’m number 2!
December 7, 2007

Len C
No. 2 wow
December 7, 2007

jprva
Can’t wait to get home so I can watch.
December 7, 2007

hermitaged
top 5? no way
December 7, 2007

Withnail
Look forward to this – I like NZ SBs from time to time
December 7, 2007

MagnumGourmet
Top 10 – Woo Hoo!
December 7, 2007

Phil G
have a great weekend!
December 7, 2007

sky
toop ten!!
December 7, 2007

Michael
top 10!!
December 7, 2007

Jensen
Great episode! Sounds like a cool book. I work for Barnes & Noble, maybe I’ll shortlist some copies into my store.
December 7, 2007

KC Dan
Awesome !!!
December 7, 2007

Tom T.
QOTD meatballs. swedish, italian, any kind.
December 7, 2007

Sam
What should go in a pie? Same thing that’s under the football: Whatchamacallit.
December 7, 2007

waibeans
top 20
December 7, 2007

sky
steak and cheese sounds good sausage sounds better; or how about something sweet??
December 7, 2007

Eric S.
Nice show and a great guest! I’m a lifelong Cubs fan too, so E.A. – GO CUBS!

QOTD: Some spicy italian sausage and cheese, although the steak and cheese pie sounds really good too.
December 7, 2007

BobM
Gary-

That was a lot of fun. Kudos to Eric for having the stones to just pick up and move to New Zealand and follow his dream. I’ll have to check out the book, as well as the wines.
December 7, 2007

sky
yeah for nz home of peter jackson of lord of the rings fame… ausome landscapes they used in the movie make me want to visit.is it that cool, eric? also the jumping off place for antartic expeditions , most of them anyway from the southern tip whats the name christchurch or something
December 7, 2007

BobM
Oh, I forgot, QOTD: Lamb, onions, and mushrooms.
December 7, 2007

Fiorentina!
ERIC you’re the RADOOLEST!
QotD – What would you like to see baked inside of a pie? Candied Yams….. I know it sounds gross, but just think about it….soft yams with brown sugar baked inside of a flakey crust and marshmellows lightly toasted on top…..come on…you know that sounds delicious!
December 7, 2007

Taylor
Week kicked some serious A, can’t for next week now. Maybe the next contest could be put Gary’s head on someone else’s body and what ever one was funniest you know the deal.
QOTD Foie Gras and something sweet like pears or something and some sort of great sauce
December 7, 2007

Jason
Under the football: if it was Snarf I’d crap my pants.
QOTD: Where’s the beef!?
December 7, 2007

Mandy
One of my favorite episodes? You guys rock.

QOTD: Apples, and apples.
December 7, 2007

KNode
QOTD: I actually make a Rachael Ray recipe that she calls Aussie Meat Pies that are kind of like a fancy sloppy joe (the meat is in between two pieces of pastry dough). Really good!
December 7, 2007

Grasshopper
Sensei,

Very cool EP and Eric seemed like a great guy. I will definately look for the book!!

Suggestion – you need to watch where you place the bottles when you have a guest. Most of the time Eric was peaking out from behind them…

We have liked NZ wines for a while now and love a NZ Sauv Blanc when floating in our boat. One most have a screw cap and they are very refreshing when it is hot. You are correct that some have gone over the top in the grapefruit characteristic, but still many good ones at good QPR. We usually choose an Alsacian Sauv Blanc or Sancerre for serious food pairings. (Hoppers have come a long way with the guidance/wisdom of our Sensei!!…:)

Have I thanked you lately for all your energy and for making this thing happen?? I guess I just did!!

Cheers,

Hopper
December 7, 2007

SmokeyUST
QOTD: Turkey, bacon, avocados, and fontina cheese.

My question for you: What goes bump in the night?!
December 7, 2007

Shawn
GO BROWNS – BEAT THE JETS SUNDAY!!
December 7, 2007

Ryan D
QotD: Would clams and goat cheese work in a pie?
December 7, 2007

Neil
QOTD: Priest.
December 7, 2007

Lb in KS
…qotd…um…..four and twenty blackbirds?
December 7, 2007

RB
Great stuff Eric!
Congrats on the book….
QOTD: Quail with a wild mushroom risotto all baked inside of a flakey buttery crust……could even pair it with the Valpol from yesterday’s show…..
December 7, 2007

Dwatson783
QOTD – bake this inside a pie – take pineapple salsa, mix it with a bit of sour cream, and then bake it in the pie on top of some grilled chicken, peppers, tomatoes, a little onion, and some 3 cheese mexican blend. That’s what you want inside a pie.
December 7, 2007

Sassodoro
Top 50!
December 7, 2007

Shadowbird
QOTD: What would I like to see baked into the pie?

…I have no idea.
December 7, 2007

DaveyDonut
This really was a great week of WLTV… thanks!

QOTD: ice cream, nacho cheese, habanero peppers, mushrooms, cinnamon, beef kidney, and balsamic reduction.

David
December 7, 2007

Orion Slayer
I like when you have quests. Not as cool as when Dick Vermeil showed up, but still cool!

QOTD: Spaghetti and meatballs…no,no…spaghetti and spicy Italian sausage in a pie!!! It would be so good with a Zinfandel!
December 7, 2007

JOEinLA
Indeed, a good week of WLTV! Thank you!

Qotd; Lamb, little onions, tomatoes, bit of garlic and a dallop of yogurt.
December 7, 2007

AaronS
QOTD: Peanut butter and Jelly
December 7, 2007

portland guy
Interesting episode. Liked how you hid Eric behind the wine bottles, then leaned fwd to show that your head is soooo much bigger than his. o O ! QOTD – Ground buffalo, cabbage and onions, bit of red wine, lots of pepper, some salt – priceless.
December 7, 2007

Snarf
QOTD: chourice and green peppers and onions; a Portuguese delicacy!
December 7, 2007

Caren
Mixin’ up the Thunder Show! Great finale for a fantastic week. Think I’ll twist open a Wairau River SB and good luck to Eric on his book debut. (a big pazzzz on the meat pie, tho)
December 7, 2007

VinoVixen
QOTD: stilton and port
December 7, 2007

Marshall
How ironic, I just had a lousy grapefruit-tasting sauvignon blanc (2006 Catalina Sounds)from NZ the other night. Then again I don’t like sauvignon blanc that much anyway.
QOTD:Spiders
December 7, 2007

Dr T from N. Carolina
Ah, ‘Gary’s first blurb’. I’m surprised it took so long.

QOTD: Lamb and fresh goat cheese.

“T”
December 7, 2007

waibeans
QOD: since we’re talkin bout wine here.. has anyone ever put GRAPES in a pie?
December 7, 2007

BF
Been watching more than a year. This was the best week yet!
December 7, 2007

TheTerroirist
QOTD: Cab Sauv Grapes…. MMMMmmmmmmm Grape Pie!!!!

Two NZ whites that I like sinking my nose into: Oyster Bay SB and Nobilo SB they’re both under $11
December 7, 2007

Martin
I can dig it man. Spinach would be nice.
December 7, 2007

HuskerJamie
It’s kind of ridiculous how awesome the Thunder Show is getting.

QOTD: Peanut Butter, Curry, Pumpkin, and lamb.
December 7, 2007

Lawrence Leichtman
Now when I think of New Zealand Meat Pies I think of Flight of the Concords. Almost anything baked in a meat pie is great. I like Shepherd Pies that are meat pies also. but you need a New Zealand Pinot Noir for those.
December 7, 2007

JoeyB
Great show – definitely going to add the book to the X-mas list.

QOTD – salami, fried eggplant, mozzarella, little tomato sauce.
December 7, 2007

Barry
Cool ep. I am totally diggin the show!

QOTD: Ricotta cheese with various berries! that is kind of desserty
December 7, 2007

wine-ot
green flowers of course!
December 7, 2007

dank
very good ep, like the rapport you guys have and it kinda makes the show a bit more bouncy and fun..

AOTD: deliciousness
December 7, 2007

Dave Canada
Love that arnold guy!……
QOTD – gotta be bacon, turkey and pesto!
December 7, 2007

amgryger
QOTD: LB in KS beat me to that one
December 7, 2007

Robin C
QOTD: vidalia onions, spinach, and eggplant with a red bell pepper and tomato relish on top.
The book sounds great! I’ve always wanted to do that.
December 7, 2007

KVolk
QOTD: Always start with cherries because cherry pie is food from the gods.
December 7, 2007

bh
great show. i ordered the book… i need a good wine read.

qotd: chicken fingersssssssssssssss… with club sauce
December 7, 2007

Josh in Burgundy
Great week, looking forward to next week and what is under that jets football.

QOTD: Green Jello
December 7, 2007

TommyBoBo of WI
Pepperoni/mushrooms/sausage and red sauce….. oh wait, that’a a calazone… oh well….
December 7, 2007

Mike L
Good, good show. I’m definitely picking up the book!

QOTD: Seafood pie! Flounder, shrimp, crabmeat, oyster all crammed into a big hushpuppy crust. Come on that sounds awesome!
December 7, 2007

sharon
Spinach sauted with garlic…maybe with some raisins and pinenuts. No meat.
December 7, 2007

james marinello
I hate to say it Gary but the shows with a guest are always the best!! I gotta check out the book now!! Damn your brain washing!!

QOTD – well living in the NW it’s hard not to say homemade huckleberry pie……so that’s what I’m gonna say! HUCKLEBERRY PIE!
December 7, 2007

Dr. Dan
This is just like the old Mickey Mouse Club Show when I was growing up–Friday is Special Guest Star Day. Eric is a great guest. Ask him back again sometime. QOTD: Sort of a Greek thing, with lamb and eggplant and onion (moussaka).
December 7, 2007

tony
what i would like to see baked inside of a pie??? a school of herrings
December 7, 2007

Steven Wyatt
EA seems like a cool dude, but WHAT ABOUT YESTERDAYS CONTEST!? (also, its killing me whats under the damn football…it better not be The One Ring (”what does it have in its pocketses, precious?” Ahem… nerd moment.)

-.-

QOTD: My mom makes an awesome ham and asparagus pie. MMMmmmm
December 7, 2007

wmole
Strawberries, cherries, rhubard and a little bacon in that pie please!
December 7, 2007

Michelle R
From Calgary?! Go Calgary! I’m originally from there
QOTD: melted chocolate bars
December 7, 2007

Robert Howells
Blackbirds of course. I think a guest on Fridays is a great idea.
December 7, 2007

Christopher J
You know how this guy is awesome? He is a Cubs fan!

QOTD: Cherries, cherry pie is the best.
December 7, 2007

William Bedard
QOTD: You know, a lot of things taste good baked into a pie. I’m just as big a fan of all the “fruit” pies that are our there as I am of the mincement and various meat “pot pies” that also exist. It might be easier for me to think of something that I -wouldn’t- want to see baked into a pie (which would probably sound gross, anyhow…). Agreed, great question.

G-V-N-C: Gary, a couple of comments. First of all, I have to agree with previous comments, the shows with visitors are very good. I like the conversation as well as the different take on whatever wine is being sampled. I definitely wouldn’t want a visitor during a “varietal” show since I really think it would break up the focus on the wine. However, for those types who think you’re “obnoxious” or whatever the “Gary-haters” are calling you these days, I think it breaks it up a bit and might make you a bit more palatable for those types. I like you fine the way you are. Second comment is about scoring. As you well know, drinking wine is a very complex sensory experience. One of the things that I like about your show is how much effort you put into trying to describe exactly what your smelling or tasting at the moment. However, no matter how hard you try, we can’t read your mind to know exactly what your experiencing. By scoring a wine (and more importantly, being in touch with how a particular reviewer tends to score a type of wine…), it helps us to better understand the degree to which you’re enjoying some of the more subtle aspects of the wine. If you (and everyone else…) didn’t score using a reasonably standardized system, that extra information from the review simply wouldn’t be available.
December 7, 2007

Fred Schechter
QOTD:
I could be wrong (probably am) but Asagio, maybe a spicy pepper, and Andouille sausage?
(eh,, why not)
December 7, 2007

chenrys
Enjoyed the show. Glad you had Eric on with you.

QODT: Hmmm….maybe ham and cheese. …or blueberries. Actually, fruit and/or cheese sounds good to me.
December 7, 2007

Deano
This was a great episode gary. You are the man and i love to see how the show is evolving since i started watching it.

QOTD:
-Meat,cheese,and tomato sauce yummm
December 7, 2007

GottaGoDrink
Very good show. Eric’s book sounds worth reading.

QOTD-Chicken and boccoli.
December 7, 2007

Lon
Plastic cuttlery? Do you suppose that on MeatpieLibrary.com, they’re drinking wine in plastic tumblers?
December 7, 2007

Joel M
Gary I think you found your double. Great show, as always.
December 7, 2007

tarheel17
QOTD:four and twenty blackbirds….
always wondered what the heck that would taste like anyway.
December 7, 2007

Dominus
Articulate and fun kinda guy. Good show.

QOTD: Prosciutto, ricotta cheese and basil would be a nice filling. At least that’s how I stuff my fried zucchini blossoms.

Go Steelers! Beat the ref and the Cheats!

TGIF

Cheers!

P.S. How does one post comments during the show? They are hilarious!
December 7, 2007

The Fanjestic
Great show – I’m actually a big fan of Eric too! I guess I just like rooting for the young guys in the wine world – especially if they’re down to earth.

QOTD – Apples. I know that’s a lame answer, but Christmas is coming up and my Dad will be making his famous Apple pie. It may or may not be the best in the world, but it’s by far the best apple pie I’ve ever had!

Duale – just bought some through WL and my wife and I are drinking it right now with a pizza hut pizza. And our baby girl sleeps…….oh how Friday nights have changed! (Always for the better)
December 7, 2007

Rhonda
QOTD: I would love to have a pie filled with chorizo, potatoes, and cheese.
December 7, 2007

Aaron J
Apples.
December 7, 2007

Plminer
OMG what a great week, thanks GV, really stepping it up a notch!
QOTD: Brie, apple, bacon, carmalized onions and rosemary chicken.
December 7, 2007

late-start
Nice change of pace today and as always enjoyed the show.

QOTD: venison/bacon with a bit of blue cheese
December 7, 2007

SteveW
Great Episode, I’ll have to buy Eric’s book.
QOTD: Steak, mushrooms, and onions.
December 7, 2007

grace
great week. qotd: i’d like to see eric. humna, humna. being a baker, i love all sorts of things baked in pastry.
December 7, 2007

Tom (vtjones)
QOTD: I LOVE sweet potato pie!

Great show Gary! I will have to get the book. It was fun to get to meet Eric.
December 7, 2007

Arthur
Steak & Kidney pie w/ earthy Pinot noir sounds awesome!
December 7, 2007

ev
GV, “Gooseberry” without the “N”. Can you put a limit on ‘tags’ per person/per episode?
December 7, 2007

Ferrigno
QOTD: PLANET EARTH
December 7, 2007

Trish da' Dish
My favorite pie is pizza pie! I’m thinking about going out to get one right now, in fact
Black Thorn Pizza forever!!
December 7, 2007

PaVo
QOTD: Horse, Cardamom and potato

Horse= Best.Meat.EVER!
December 7, 2007

Chris S
Alameda, CA has a restaurant called The New Zealander, which serves all sorts of meat pies.
December 7, 2007

Eric A.
Hi everyone! Thanks so much for all the great comments. Was really exciting to be on WLT — I was actually kinda nervous… Anyway, if any of you are in NJ, I’ll be at the store on Saturday from 1-4pm. Would love to meet you. If not, send me an email eric@crusheric.com.

BobM: Thanks for respecting mi cajones! In truth, I think one of the reasons the book worked out well was that I had NO IDEA WHAT I WAS DOING…WHATSOEVER. So it was as much naivety as balls, but let it be our secret:

sky: Yes, NZ really IS that beautiful. Every morning I’d look out the window at the vineyard and the mountains beyond. And the sky at night — you can see EVERY star. I never got sick of it. If you go, take at least two weeks and travel around the South Island. It’ll blow your mind.

Firoentina: Candied yams in a pie sounds AWESOME!

Hopper: You’re right, some NZ SBs can get over the top. But I think the best wineries there do a really good job blending every year to keep a consistent style. Hunter’s, from this episode, is a great example. Allan Scott, too, of course. You should also check out Huia if you like a bit more a of a lean, food-friendly style — that’s what those particular winemakers aim for.

RB: If you bake that pie, I’m coming over. No question.

Orion: I admit it, I’m definitely not as cool as Dick Vermeil. But I AM cooler than Dick Cavett, right?

Caren: Wairau River is a good choice. Different winemaker now from when I was there, but the stuff is still consistently very good. Strange story: the founders of that winery had to convince all their neighbors around them and the local farming board to let them plant grapes — everyone thought they were crazy, and almost wouldn’t let them do it.

Lawrence: Flight of the Conchords ROCKS! Very NZ humor.

Dave Canada: Love you too man! ;P

Mike L: Thanks man! Hope you enjoy the book!

Christopher J: that’s right… Cubs fans really are the best fans in the world. NZ cricket fans are actually kind of similar…except they can drink more. Sounds hard to believe, but trust me, it’s true.

Fanjestic: Consider me a fan of YOURS!

grace: I’m very flattered… unlucky for you the camera didn’t show anything BELOW the table!

Arthur: That truly is a great combo.

Thanks again, everyone! Will check back in regularly, of course, since I’m a Vayniac too.
December 7, 2007

Kevin Grove
QOTD: Mincemeat with whiskey baby! I love desert pies and meat pies but nothing can touch my grandmother’s mincemeat pie with whiskey.
December 7, 2007

JonE
No one said cat piss!! You are not allowed to do a New Zealand show featuring Sauvignon Blanc without mentioning cat piss. Get with the program G-Man. Loves me that Allen Scott.

QOTD: In Japan at some of the little french style pastry shops (I know its weird) they do hotdog croissants with ketchup baked right in, they even do versions with sausages. This should be a regular thing at every good bakery.
December 7, 2007

Hamid Z
QOTD: Assuming you’re looking for something that isn’t usually served in pie form… How about like a burrito. With rice, beans, salsa, chicken, cheese, and salsa, but please hold the sour cream.
December 7, 2007

James Roscoe
That may have been your best show EVER!!!!
December 7, 2007

Paul M
QOTD: nice pie with meatballs, sauce and cheese
December 7, 2007

Mislead Matt
I’m a newbie to wine. I’m 25, and over the past few years my older brother has really gotten into it. I only wish I would have embraced it earlier because it really is good stuff. I for one will definitely read this book, just from his pitch on your show. I’ve been watching for a few weeks now, I’m trying to ‘train’ my palette, I just want to say.. thanks Gary!

QOTD: My in-laws are Estonian, meat pies are regular munchies in their homes. Ground pork and meat with onions and breadcrumbs, deep fried. Everything hand-made, the most delicious yummies I look forward to.
December 7, 2007

KW
Fun show!
QOTD: Have a West Indian or Spanish style meat pie.
What’s under the football?
December 7, 2007

Scott
Great show. I just added Eric’s book to my amazon wishlist. Hopefully I got it on there in time for someone to buy it for me for christmas.
December 7, 2007

Trevor M.
add a bit of jalepenos and onions to the steak and cheese… and you’ve got a damn good meat pie (never had it… but sounds awesome right now).

Kellen Clemons is from my neck of the woods here in Oregon… he’s from a podunk town in NE Oregon. I met him at a damn “pre-marriage” Catholic retreat that you have to go through before you get married a couple years back. So… he may be in Jersey now… but Oregon’s what got him there
December 7, 2007

the professor and . . .
Plminer, that sound absolutely delicious!! Gary this was one of your best, the chemistry was there and that guy Eric seems like someone really cool to hang with. Lots of fun, and it came across on camera. You should definitely invite him back.
Also the picture with the moose on amazon is halarious!!!
December 7, 2007

Tim Vining
QOTD: crayfish, cheese and cayenne peppers would be the best!
December 7, 2007

Billr
Another great show….love it ehrn you have guest….

QOTD: Egg, cheese, sausage and bacon for breakfast………
December 7, 2007

E
QOD: Zweibelkuchen! Kind of like a German quiche with eggs, bacon, and onions.

Either that or the little Greek takeout pies you get at MDW.
December 7, 2007

Mr.Sato
You truly are reaching new heights Gary. Just stay YOU, and don’t get a big head!

QOTD: Plums, blueberries, blackberries, raspberries, cassis, and currants… a bittersweet chocolate topping with a little black pepper. I’d call it red wine pie.

Keep on rockin Gary, and best of luck to you on your book Eric, you seem like a great guy.
December 7, 2007

Justin
I like having the guests on WLTV.

QOFT from EA: I like what Plminer said: “Brie, apple, bacon, carmalized onions and rosemary chicken.”
December 7, 2007

Mr.Sato
Holy Crap Tim, that sounds awesome! Are you Cajun? (I’m from New Orleans, living in L.A.)
December 7, 2007

Chinon Rouge
Yo GV, your little show has more clout, creative power and originality than anything on network TV. Don’t let it go to your head but the work you and your team is doing is more important to me than the glossy stuff coming from WS mag. You should bring Eric back for another episode. He’s got the right wine dood spark and I think we will see or hear from him again. Keep it up. P.S. More sparklers please.
December 8, 2007

John Watson
Sounds like a fun book. I bet my wife would like it too. It’s going on the my iwantsandy.com booklist….
December 8, 2007

East Aurora Reilly
MMM…pie: how about lamb, rosemary, raspberry coulis served with an Argentinian Malbec or a Chilean Carmenere.
Or bacon and fudge.
December 8, 2007

flippy
Great show yet again, although I’m itchin’ to see what’s under the football…

QOTD: Just going on what I’m craving right now… spinach, feta and banana peppers… but all those pies sound might tasty.
December 8, 2007

pomace
awesome show. love the team dynamic.
QOTD: Sweetbreads. No question.
December 8, 2007

fatdoi
don’t know… maybe i live in sydney so i find this episode bit boring…. sorry GV, just being subjective……
December 8, 2007

Evan
Great show. I actually read the book a few months ago. It was fun and educational. Made me want to drink wine rather than make it.

GV,

How about a show with gifts for wine lovers. I am running out of ideas to tell people to buy me. What is on your wish list?
December 8, 2007

trauma-junkie
Nice book, will get it for xmas I hope!

QOTD: Seafood pie….yummy!
December 8, 2007

MattyO
awesome show, very unique. can’t say that i have ever had those kinds of pies. interesting to try. i suddenly want to go to NZ and get a job in a winery!

QOTD: i would love to see pepperoni in a pie!
December 8, 2007

jason
good times today!
eric, i look foeward to seeing your book. i also really liked the diddy you did on WS video blog about working in a winery.
you are even cooler for the fact that you found a roddy piper T. gary, dude, you need to get some jimmy snuka stuff. he was the guy.
qotd: meat pie a la rattle snake with carrot
December 8, 2007

Jeff Baldwin, RN
Great show! I would love to visit NZ in my lifetime. Cheers to another great episode.

QOTD: Bacon…bacon…and um,…more BACON!!!!
December 8, 2007

sobojosh
Nice show! Thanks for answering my ask Gary question! Personally I like Scottish pies. Mashed potatoes gravy and beef!
December 8, 2007

Ernest_G
Argh, I did it again. Went shopping without watching WLTV first. I just came back from the book store and didn’t expect this type of episode. A great episode, I must say.

QOTD: Ground chuck and potatoes!

Have a great weekend everyone.
December 8, 2007

Mikey K
Napkins Gary…. Napkins…
Qotd: Meatpies need some spicyness with pepperoni to watch with Shiraz
December 8, 2007

ChadD.
Awesome Show! I manage a bookstore so I’ll be picking that book up tomorrow. QOTD: chili and cheese.
December 8, 2007

David James
Nice episode. I’ll ask for that book for christmas or something

QOTD: Bacon and chicken? Works so well in a sandwich after all.
December 8, 2007

CIA grad
QOTD: Braised Veal Cheeks…..yummy. Good show gentlemen. First Big Crush is on my Christmas list.
December 8, 2007

Social Brian
Smokeyust – ease up on Viddler. We get it, you know how to use the widget.

Eric, great appearance! I’m looking forward to reading your book. Your adventure sounds like “Into The Wild”, but for wine. (Into The Wine?) You have the exact same goatee as Tom Klein, the guy who married my ex-girlfriend out from under me in 1993. Best favor anyone ever did for me – seriously.

QOTD: What would I like to see baked into a pie? Either rhubarb or olallieberry. Gary, ever had olallieberry?
December 8, 2007

Jon A.
Entertaining and educational as always, Gary.

QoTD: I would love to see some sausage, onions, and brie stuffed in a pie and baked. mmm cheese.
December 8, 2007

Withnail
QOTD: Just like some summers when I was a little kid…blackberries picked from my Auntie Thora’s yard on Vancouver Island (now the locale of some up and coming wineries) and then she would bake them into the most awesome pie.
December 8, 2007

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December 8, 2007

Karl Laczko
Good show Gary, a nice dynamic there with Eric, although I don’t think he was too impressed when you overfilled his glass!

QOTD – I loved the sound of that Curry filling, so I’d put a Thai twist to that and go for a Thai Green Curry & chicken pie – a bit of cocount, a bit of chili, a hint of Lemongrass and Lime………
December 8, 2007

joel delon
Come on gary ! you should serve less wine in your host’s glass I was impressed !
December 8, 2007

Tzahi
QOTD-
Spicy Thai Pie, can go with: beef, chicken or vegi…
sounds good actually, no?
December 8, 2007

Big Nick
Good to see some more young blood in the wine biz. EA……man you got a set on you to just pack up and go. That would be awesome. Can’t wait til next week Gary, let’s see what you got.

QOTD: I am not familiar with meat pies, but at this little place we go they make a homemade duck sausage that is wrapped in pastry dough and served with a maple dijon sauce. It is fantastic, and it is only meant to be an apetizer…….if they served larger portions it would be a great meal.

I bet you could make it like a Reuben sandwich with the Kraut and Corned Beef, with a side of 1000 island dressing to dip it in, that would rock….maybe I can get my wife to make that for lunch and give it a shot.
December 8, 2007

PiperJS
Hey, cool, now Gary has an opportunity to wear my last name on his t-shirt! (and no, fellow Vayniacs, I am no relation to Rowdy Roddy…)
QOTD: What I really look forward to seeing baked into a meat pie is Alan Rickman, in the upcoming movie “Sweeney Todd”! But, as that is mere cinema fantasy, I would have to say bacon, gorgonzola, onion and tomato.
December 8, 2007

Craig
Okay.. I was hooked. The book is on order. Perhaps a Christmas gift, perhaps for me to keep.
December 8, 2007

Jim in Atlanta
Fun show. I would like to see seafood in the pie.
December 8, 2007

Randy
QOD: If it hasn’t already been said: I want Gary’s enormous ego baked into a pie! OK, either that or a pound of the best crisp green apples that have ever grown on a tree.

Eric, cool to see you on WLTV, hope the book is selling like a New York Times Bestseller!
December 8, 2007

Micha
Huh, now we know: Wine Spectator is watching/lurking the thunder-show too! Great Ep Gary. Well done Eric!
December 8, 2007

wayno da wino
Yooo GeeVee & EA !
Cooooool Episode!!! Gotta add EA’s Book to my collection!

QOTD: “Meat” pies not me Bag, but have been known to
woof-down a blueberry, cherry, peacon, or “mud” pie
on a rare occasion. Yummy!!
December 8, 2007

Paul Martin
Haven’t had the Riesling, ut the Scott Sauv Blanc is very solid, and cheap.
December 8, 2007

Yoni Rabkin
Nice dynamic, solid episode.

QOTD: Rump steak!
December 8, 2007

Jimmy S
Does anyone remember Georgie Pie’s in NZ? I was an exchange student in NZ when I was 13 and thought those meat pies were money!

Man, I can’t wait to get back to NZ – World Cup 2011!!!!
December 8, 2007

Kristen
QOTD: Sausage and potatoes
December 8, 2007

cgf
QOTD: apples and more apples

Great show. Eric was a really cool guest. MUCH BETTER THAN RICHARD BETTS!
December 8, 2007

MikeBadger
Great to see the guest interview. Greater insight into New Zealand wine scene. Try some Wisconsin/UP pasties (meat pies)
December 8, 2007

avanagee
QOTD: spicy chicken. yum!
December 8, 2007

Todd Smith
I’m a huge fan of the Allan Scott Sauv Blanc. The past 2 vintages have been spectacular.
December 8, 2007

Todd S
QOTD: Brie and Prosciutto. I think pears need to be a part of the party, maybe a wine with a strong pear flavor would do it.
December 8, 2007

Brendan
Good show. Cool guest. Man am I hungry for 3.14
December 8, 2007

pforty
great show, great week!!

QOTD: An entire thanskgiving meal – turkey, stuffing, sweet potatoes, cranberries, brussels sprouts!!!
December 9, 2007

Mason
Awesome show, Gary. Loved the interaction with the guest, and I think you might have just sold me on the book, too.

QOTD: steak and portobello mushrooms with a little bit of onion and garlic, all ground up and fried together in a pie!
December 9, 2007

Earl Allen Boek
My first time here. Nice review and interesting marketing as well.
December 9, 2007

Eric A.
Thanks to everyone who came out to WL on Saturday — was great to meet other Vayniacs, not to mention more of the WL staff. These are seriously some of the nicest guys you will ever meet. The experience there is so comfortable and friendly it makes shopping for wine in NYC look about as pleasant as root canal.

Mislead: You’re off to a great start — keep reading and drinking consistently. All there is to it!

Social: Thanks man! not sure I’ve ever heard the book compared to Into the Wild, but what the hell, I’ll take it. Most people tell me it’s Kitchen Confidential for wine, though someone else went so far as to call it the love child of Anthony Bourdain and Sarah Silverman. Your comparison is a little more flattering, thanks.

Big Nick: Yup, there were some balls involved, but a lot of it was just naivety. If I’d really, truly known what I was getting myself into, I never would have done it. But in my case, ignorance sort of worked to my advantage…good thing I wasn’t writing a book about S&M or something….

Craig: Thanks man! Hope you enjoy it!

Micha: Oh yah… all the wine critics / writers out there watch and read each other, probably for equal parts education as well as looking for an opening to attack. It’s a pretty competitive space, where everyone (GV probably being the exception) feels they have to show they know more or better about wine, which is a bit annoying if you ask me. I think there’s room for everyone’s opinions, everyone’s individual tastes. It’s just wine, after all. I wish people in the biz would just drop the gloves, pick up the glasses and have a goddamn party.

Jimmy S: What’s Georgie’s Pies? Was it a store or a brand? I either got pies from the Renwick bakery or from the gas station late at night after the bars had kicked us out.

cgf: Trust me, Richard Betts is a *much* cooler guy than I am. He’s like a rock star, but more importantly, makes everyone else he’s hanging out with feel like a rock star at the same time. You well never eat better, drink better or laugh harder than when you hang out with Richard. He’s a fan of the Thunder Show as well!

Todd Smith: Yup, they’ve been on a roll. 2005 and 2006 were pretty awesome. I tried the 2007 really quickly, in a lineup of about 40 other SBs, so I don’t think I got a fair assessment. But I think 2007 will probably be a pretty good year, too. There was some frost a couple months ago, so 2008 is a big question mark right now (but no reason to fret yet since it’s still the middle of the summer there).

I realize, I never answered my own QOTD: Chicken Tikka Masala!
December 9, 2007

Big Nick
Come on Eric A. Root canals only as bad the guy or gals who do them poorly. I can give you the name of a guy who is fantastic and will leave you wanting more than one when you visit his office.
December 9, 2007

AmandaM
QOTD: Pretty much anything cause I love pie crust. It’s my favorite part of every pie I’ve ever eaten. I think it’s all that butter.

I also love cheese, so something involving that would be fantastic.
December 9, 2007

yowens
What awesome timing! Were going to Malborough next week to booze! QOTD: sauerkraut
December 9, 2007

Derek
You guys kill me…..

QOTD: how about one of Garys sweaty socks???
December 9, 2007

Jason S.
QOTD: chicken parm
December 9, 2007

damon aka unknownwine
love this. wish I could come hang with all of y’all.

meat pie with lamb and gouda cheese
December 9, 2007

Fred Liu
Hehe, nice episode. Glad to see Gary having fun with the meat pie.
December 9, 2007

Elliot Essman
Great guest. Good rapport, but also excellent wine comments (and none of them were real raves).
December 9, 2007

Kevin
QOTD:a torchon of foie gras.
December 9, 2007

Tommy Vernieri
That was kind of weird guys. I don’t know how I feel about this two guest format.
December 9, 2007

J Crazy
That was a meat/sausage-o-rama fest wasn’t it!
I’d like to have some seafood gratin in a meat pie, oh hell yeah!
December 9, 2007

Keith Brown
Fun show. I went and ordered the book immediately from Amazon, looking forward to reading it. Wonder if Eric will get a bump in sales thanks to WLTV?
December 9, 2007

Grapedigger
looks like an interesting book. How about a seafod pie?! Cheers.
December 10, 2007

baron
Please. Would anyone else like to see SS_Chris’s little immature comments pop up every two seconds throughout the show?
December 10, 2007

Kapers
It better be good a good book – just ordered it, but not from Amazon…
December 10, 2007

Canadian Chris
Love the sauve blanc, although it feels a little too fresh in the current climate conditions!

QOTD: fresh, wild blueberries.
December 10, 2007

Pardus
QOTD: I had a lot of meat pies when I lived in Zimbabwe, but I always wanted to try one with lamb.
December 10, 2007

Ken T
Wild Boar Sausage with Asiago Cheese and a little Marinara sauce.
December 10, 2007

pawncop
Cajun sausage with spicy okra! or Taco meat (the real stuff not ground round) onions and jalapeno!
December 10, 2007

Valerie
QOTD: Shaved ham, smoked swiss, and red onion…mmmmmm
December 10, 2007

stewart l
the book sounds good, would be interseted to see what working in awinery is like
QOD- smoked turkey, bacon,avocado
December 10, 2007

MB Dallas
QOTD: Pulled Pork, Cole Slaw and Spicy Barbecue Sauce…
December 10, 2007

scvarsity7
QOTD: Grilled steak, carmelized onions, and garlic mashed potatoes.
December 10, 2007

Chargers Rule
QOTD: Duck and Brie!
December 10, 2007

Marcus Pape
I like the change-up for Friday with the special guest! It opens the show up for more tangents but that’s what laid back Friday is all about…something a little different.

QOTD: Macaroni ‘n Cheese, with potentially some lobster or crab, Pacific Northwest style!
December 10, 2007

mike u.
grilled italian hot sausage with peppers
December 10, 2007

B-727
People (Parker for example) don’t get why some don’t like Alsace wines. Both you and Parker have described some of those wines as smelling of Petrol. That is kerosene! So would anyone like the smell of a wine that had drops of kerosene mixed in with it?
December 10, 2007

Palmer
QOTD: Chicken, Mushrooms, Artichoke Hearts and Gruyere.
December 10, 2007

John Witherspoon (J DUB)
QOTD:leeks, shitake mushrooms, and blue cheese – mMMMMM

I will have to add his book to the other 3 I am asking for from Santa!!

J DUB
December 10, 2007

Jayhitek
I would like to that Jets 1/2 football baked in a pie. What’s under the football Gary!!
December 10, 2007

Russ J
Great show! Was not really thinking about getting the book but this guys appearance on WLTV sold me.
QOTD: Ground turkey, green and red peppers, onions, broccoli, carrots and yams.
December 10, 2007

Oleg I.
Rabbit?

Oh ya btw. Best guest ever!!!!!! Please have more like him on…….
December 10, 2007

daWineGuy
I received Eric’s book as a present and it was funny that you had him on the show. The book was a quick read on the train to work and I highly recommend it. Plus He has love for the Cubs, you can’t beat that. GO CUBS…. GO BEARS….
December 11, 2007

Craig Mann
I think your Digg this! button is broken. I’m running Firefox/2.0.0.11. As a half-kiwi, this episode has a close place in my heart, however one wine that you didn’t taste which I thought you might is 2004 Cloudy Bay sauvignon blanc. I recommend that for any occasion. As we say, get your reds from aus and your whites from the land of the long white cloud. Kia ora.
December 11, 2007

Paul McCredie
Greetings from New Zealand, What a great episode. I’m really looking forward to reading Eric’s book. I hear the chapter about the
bar brawls is spot on – having been punched out in a Marlborough bar myself!

Like you, NZers are over the overtly grapefruit tasting Sav Blanc. Try pairing the meat pie with some wine from the Hawkes Bay next time. I can see I’m going to have to send you some myself.

regards
Paul
December 11, 2007

MtnCharlie
Great show Eric and Gary. I like guests. I am going to go to New Zealand… someday.

QOTD: Spinach, Feta cheese and onions.
December 11, 2007

Brandon T.
QOTD: honestly, some kind of prosuitto with beet relish, a menstrual fluid reduction, and breast milk cheese, maybe just a little pickled baby poo
December 11, 2007

ryan
The best meat pies in NZ are made in a town about midway between Arthurs Pass and Christchurch. The owner of the bakery makes the pies herself, and I would eat anything she puts in a pie.
December 11, 2007

Andrew
Awesome show, but many Australians are going to argue that those meat pies are about as Australian a food as you can get.

QOTD: My favourite pie fillings are kangaroo and red wine and also King Island Camembert (yes Gary same blokes who make the Roaring 40s) and cauliflower – especially good if bought at the bakery on King Island.

Andrew
December 12, 2007

Rich
Very interesting…will consider purchasing the book in the future.
December 12, 2007

Wade
I dream of a meat pie filled with blood sausage and baked apples and pears.

And I would like to sell them from a cart under the Pulaski Skyway or anywhere in the vicinity of Co-op City.
December 12, 2007

AlisonD
Its always a great show when a guest is on! Not that we dont think your great Gary ; )

QOTD: How about chocolate, marshmallows and crushed graham crackers?….butter and dough wrapped around pretty much anything tastes good!
December 12, 2007

Scott
Hey, any wine called “Scott” can’t be all that bad!!
December 13, 2007

GR8Wine
That was a great show Gary and Eric. Love NZ. Nice when you have guests and they come up with great questions of the day!
Speaking of which, QOTD: Foie Gras with leaks, truffles and morels in a red wine reduction sauce.
That could be kinda tricky but if someone could pull it off I bet it’d be great.
December 17, 2007

SoCal
QOTD: Goat cheese, truffles, and duck
December 28, 2007

Dan-o
I would like a “pot roast” style beef and gravy with vegetables – potatos, carrots, celery, onions.
January 29, 2008

Sev
QOTD: In England I had a lamb and mint meat pie, right outside Windsor Castle, which was killer. Now that I don’t eat meat I guess my first choice would be a Chicken pot pie minus the chicken.

I love New Zealand wines, love them. I just get worried about producers catering their wines to the American palate. They need to do what they do best, and that is let the terroir dictate the wine.
May 22, 2008

Valentin
QOT: My favourite pie? So here is my grandma’s recipe I’m making public since our Lord has called her: Take a couple of fresh frogs, tear off their legs and put them (the legs) into a mortar together with: some spiders, flies and whatever you can catch in your cellar, bedroom or anywhere else, add some jalapeÃ±o chillies, nam plaa sauce from Thailand and palm sugar. Mix well together and wrap it up with pizza pastry. Put it in the oven until a delicious odour is filling the room.
January 1, 2009

Dessert Wine Nerd
Great show and guest. I like the guy and just might have to look into his book in the future. QOTD: Reduced ice wines into a syrup, then tossed in with a bunch of rice crispies. I dont know if that would even work……just call me a mad scientist!