Box Wine Tasting – Episode #367

December 10, 2007

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Can box wine be good? That is a question that maybe taking a very interesting spin in a new direction, as more and more under 25 year old wine drinkers enter the wine market wineries are thinking of new ways to brand to that demo and today Gary Vaynerchuk tastes some of the newer efforts in the market.

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Wines tasted in this episode:

2006 Bandit Pinot Grigio play review at cork'd
2006 Bota Box Chadonnay

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2004 Cuvee de Pena play review at cork'd
2005 Thirsty Lizard Shiraz

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  1. December 12, 2007

    Dan Mc

    Best steak I’ve had was a bone-in ribeye I cooked in a cast iron skillet with kosher salt and outback’s seasoning. Sorry, I haven’t been to the famous steak places I can’t afford it!

    Worst steak I’ve had was at applebees or something like that, not making that mistake again

  2. December 12, 2007

    Ian Tervet

    Best-Peter Luger Steakhouse’s Porterhouse Steak in Brooklyn. Best Prime Rib=House of Prime Rib in SF

    Worst-Sizzler’s nationwide.

  3. December 12, 2007

    */^_^\*

    qotd: best=aged ribeye at red prime in okc
    worst=an inch thick piece of leather at the cafeteria at work…

  4. December 12, 2007

    grape_ape

    QOTD:

    Best Steak: Peter Lugers in Brooklyn. Porterhouse, done “Black and Blue” style… I was leary of this style, but man, it made the medium rare version we also had for the table seem tough and overdone by comparison!

    Worst Steak: Tough decision, but based on price paid vs. quality was a NY Strip I had at Angelo Maxie’s in NY. It had tough strip of grizzle and tendon running down the middle that made it tough to cut, let alone chew!

  5. December 12, 2007

    Marcus Pape

    Would love to order the Christmas pack but no love to Washington State on shipping!

    Big fan of what’s going on in the industry with the resurgence of box wine. Some good quality juice is really starting to show up in those little boxed wonders. I would definitely recommend the Revelry Merlot out of Washington State (http://www.revelryvintners.com/) and French Rabbit (http://www.frenchrabbit.com/). Those are some of the best I’ve had to this point.

    You know what I love about the viewers of Wine Library TV, more people will come out and comment for Gary’s bday (1000+) than they do when a $800 bottle of wine (845+) is up for grabs. That’s quite a dedicated fellowship. Nice work!

    QOTD: Best steak I ever had was just recently up in Whistler at Hy’s enjoying good times with my wife and friends. Worst steak…had to be from the cafeteria at college because everything was bad there. But I was young and dumb and didn’t know any better.

  6. December 12, 2007

    CP

    I am new to your site and I love it. The box wine makes me laugh! Especially the faces you make while tasting them. Doesn’t make me want to run out and buy one.

  7. December 12, 2007

    Beth Girvan

    Just passed the BotaBox in the grocery store the other day and wondered
    if there was any possible way it was even drinkable. Glad to see there’s
    a glimmer of hope with the Bandit.

    Worst steak by far — Ruby Tuesday’s (what was I thinking) top sirloin
    topped with black pepper. Best — Ruth’s Chris filet mignon at a dinner
    with my son on his 21st birthday. Great memory too.

    Love the show. Thanks!

  8. December 12, 2007

    Nesto

    Disappointing results – would love to find a 90 pt box wine!

    Best Steak: Manny’s in Minneapolis. Of course, it might have been the 80-something bottle of Heitz.

    Worst Steak: Kobe steak at a fancy Japanese hotel restaurant. Spent $100US and it was horrible.

  9. December 12, 2007

    Joseph Cote

    I’ve been waiting for this episode for a long time! Being a CKC I’m glad you got to review some of these wines to show people that they, as we all know aren’t as good as a 20 dollaer a bottle wine, but given the price and if you look around you can find some wines that are actually on par with a decent bottle of wine.

    Best steak ever: There’s a little mom and pop restaurant in Lowell, MA called the Glennview Pub and Grill that makes a wicked mean steak that’s to die for, and the prices are amazing, which makes me a happy college kid to get a good value.

    Worst steak ever: Bugaboo Creek in Portland, ME. They burned my steak and then when I asked them to maybe get me something a little less black, they said that wasn’t possible, horrible experience!

  10. December 12, 2007

    Greg

    Great episode!

    Best: A Kobe Steak at Bobby Flays with signature rub, amazingggg

    Worse: A place in italy, It was the poorest cut T-bone i have ever seen. It was all fat and i complained cause i didnt even eat it. It was still on the bill at the end!

  11. December 12, 2007

    Candace

    Box wine! You are hilarious. However, it actually makes sense for me to buy a decent box white to make my kir cocktails.

    QOTD: The best steak ever has be the waygu rib-eye at Canlis here in Seattle. It’s like butter. No, no, it’s better than butter! The worst steak was on a college athletic trip in Tennessee at some random restaurant. All I remember is the menu had pictures of the menu items. That really should have been a sign.

  12. December 12, 2007

    TimInFL

    Got my X’Mas Suprise Pack! Tks! Should be fun, can’t wait!

    QOTD – BEST – Bryant & Cooper Steakhouse, Roslyn (i know you’ve been there)…The leather seats, Cirgar Friendly (at the time, i went) the wine list…back when I had money…I mean Stupid Money! ahh! The good ‘ol Days!

    Worst – Emeril’s Tchoup Chop, Orlando – Some Asian style NY Strip was AWFUL. Which was a suprise cause this was a faily new establishment when we went….Anyway! I have eaten in E’s places before and was quite pleased. I don’t know, these FoodTV guys get too big too fast and sometimes QUALITY goes out the door!

    Enjoy!

  13. December 12, 2007

    testrun66

    there really hasn’t ever been a boxed wine I’ve been able to tolerate. My wife used to drive the Franzia Rose’ but not anymore. I just don’t see how the plastic liners in those containers can help a wine age well although the box concept DOES limit the amount of light which hits the wine. Not really worth it in my mind. Besides, what would the wine cellar look like with a bunch of these boxes sitting around – unpleasant.

    QOTD:
    BEST: There’s a restaurant about 20 miles from me (been there twice, don’t remember the name – pathetic) which runs two very large red brick grills and you cook your own steak. They have several cuts to choose from, you season the meat with whatever you want from a slew of spices they supply and you let it cook to your satisfaction. You can also make your garlic (or whatever) Texas toast on the grill at the sme time. VERY radool!!

    WORST: Denny’s (just unreal…)

  14. December 12, 2007

    Mrs. Grasshopper

    Hi Gary,

    The name says it all…..but I am no longer a lurker, for this is my first comment. As you know my hubby Grasshopper is one of your biggest fans!

    QOTD…The best steak that I’ve ever had was at L’Bofinger in Paris last October. The meal started off with Truffle Pate. Then I had a Filet Mignon with a Bernaise sauce, French Green Beans and Crispy French Fries with a beautiful bottle of 1994 Cos D’ Estournel. It was the most beautiful romantic evening with my husband, Hopper.

    The worst steak I’ve ever had was a leathery overdone Sirloin Steak at Ponderosa Steakhouse in Macomb, Illinois. The choices were slim being a small college town where my daughter attends grad school. Grasshopper was not with me and I knew nothing about his experience at the Ponderosa in Eau Claire, Wisconsin.

    Grasshopper is becoming quite the expert at grilling steaks at home and we have been enjoying a lot of his homecooked steaks. We have a beautiful array of wines to accomany them too…but none that would compliment as perfectly as the 1986 Chateau Lafleur.

    It was great meeting you in Chicago earlier this year and look foward to drinking more “God damned wine” with you, sometime soon!

    Mrs. Hopper

  15. December 12, 2007

    MarionOwen

    Best steak was in high school a Beef Wellington at a The Lamplighter in Charlotte, NC. It may not have really been the best I’ve every had but my memory of it has kept me searching to repeat it. Before that day I’d only had steak at Quincy’s steakhouse(one of those 1970s cafeteria style steakhouses) and as you can imagine…not the same experience at all. It was a life changing experience to learn that there are gradations in everything and excellence, though expensive and hard to achieve, is worth the effort
    worst steak: tried grass fed buffalo tenderloin and while it may indeed have been from the loin, it was in no way tender. I actually had to resort to Worchestershire sauce to get it down. buffalo is fine for ground beef and makes a great burger but don’t get a steak!

  16. December 12, 2007

    Willard

    QOTD:
    Best: Some over cooked whoknowswhatcut my mom made and we ate it on the back patio of a beach house in Pacific City Oregon. For some reason the way the steak was carelessly cooked perfectly complimented the laid back mentality we all had while there for the week

    Worst: Grandmas annual family dinner at the local all you can eat buffet.

  17. December 12, 2007

    bruce gardner

    The best steak I ever had came from my grill(dry aged 21 days and marinated over night). I ate it with my hands. The worst steak my roommate cooked last night.

  18. December 12, 2007

    Willard

    QOTD
    best: an over cooked somekindacut my mom grilled on the back patio of a beach house in pacific city oregon the flavor was ok but for some reason the sub par steak complemented the relaxed atmosphere of the whole trip…

    worst: Grandmas christmas dinner at an all you can eat buffet…

  19. December 12, 2007

    Edwin Nunez

    Gary:

    I just ordered the Christmas package by phone. I live in Huntsville, Alabama. State regulations specify wine has to be shipped to the local Alabama Alcoholic Beverage (ABC) Control store rather than to my home address. It also requires a form that must I fill out. A copy must accompany the shipped package. Your employee in the Order Department, Mr. Chris Popp, was very courteous, understanding, and efficient in taking the order and complying with these regulations. Congratulations on having such good employees!

    Edwin Nunez

  20. December 12, 2007

    Craig

    QOTD: I’d have to say the best was in Paris, in a restaurant I don’t know the name of. IT was a Filet Mignon, wrapped in bacon. The worst – in recent memory it was one I had at Grub Steak in Utah, up in Park City. Just really fatty, and not cooked particularly well.

    good episode. Or at least, interesting. I still laugh at you birthday episode (maybe from last year?) when you tried all the white zinfandels…

  21. December 12, 2007

    ktw

    QOTD: sorry, gv but i am a vegetarian

  22. December 12, 2007

    JJ Owen

    Best steak: Dry aged delmonico from Capital Grille in Atlanta. Equalled by the fries drizzled with truffle oil.

    Worst: I ordered a noodle dish with “steak” from a small Vietnamese joint in Toronto. The waiter told me “white people don’t like this.” Well, then I wanted it even more. I wanted authentic Vietnamese, thank you very much. Turns out he was right. Yikes! Love those rice noodles, though.

  23. December 12, 2007

    LeatherPalate

    Best steaks i’ve had are from The Original Morton’s in Chicago and Plaza Three in K.C.

    Worst would be a under cooked steak I had when S & W first opened up out here.

    Great googley moogley pick me

  24. December 12, 2007

    Grasshopper

    Understand that the future might be boxes or new technology/enviromentally friendly packaging, but I am having trouble embracing it quite yet…..

    QOTD – Mortons’s Westchester, IL – Mrs. Hopper and I brought a bottle of 01 Phelps Insignia that had been decanted for two hours and re-bottled. Couple Martini’s to start so our wine could rest and breath after the long journey in the car..:) Had Porthouse steaks wih bernaise, Tomato/Onion/Blue Cheese Salad, Mushrooms, Aspargus, Galric mashed and a chocalate souffle for dessert. I have many great steaks throughout my life at most fo the most famous places. What made it most special was being with the love of my life……(The Insignia wasn’t to shabby either!!!!)

    Worst steak – Ponderosa flat steak – cheap steak joint that I am not even sure if they are still around. Used to be one in my home town of Eau Claire, WI

    Sensei – Thank you for delaying the drawing entry for a few days so I could watch a couple days later and still be involve!

    You are going to pull my name out of the bucket on Friday like picking up a Grasshooper by it’s legs on a hot summer day. Which I know you did as a kid. Just do not eat it!!!!!…:)

    Hopper

  25. December 12, 2007

    MacNPhish

    QOTD: Best steak, recent filet I had at Timpano in Hyde Park, FL (in Tampa). Amazing, amazing steak, anyone in the area NEEDS to visit this restaurant ASAP!

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