Box Wine Tasting – Episode #367

December 10, 2007

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Can box wine be good? That is a question that maybe taking a very interesting spin in a new direction, as more and more under 25 year old wine drinkers enter the wine market wineries are thinking of new ways to brand to that demo and today Gary Vaynerchuk tastes some of the newer efforts in the market.

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Wines tasted in this episode:

2006 Bandit Pinot Grigio play review at cork'd
2006 Bota Box Chadonnay

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2004 Cuvee de Pena play review at cork'd
2005 Thirsty Lizard Shiraz

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  1. December 13, 2007

    Dave Hasbrouck

    Finally, I’ve been asking for this episode. I’m tired of wasting money on people who pour my good wine into their empty beer glass just to drink some more! :-)

    Best Steak:Porterhouse steak w/ crumbled gorgonzola at Cosimo’s on Union in Newburgh NY
    Worst Steak: Over Cooked strip steak at a local steak house.

    WE LOVE BEEF!

  2. December 13, 2007

    cjm

    Best: Bleu cheese crusted filet mignon.

    Worst: Tried some of my friends when he got it at the diner at 3am a few days ago, that was pretty horrid.

  3. December 13, 2007

    Nathan Cardella

    Best steak: A filet mignon from the Costco in Maui. It was prepared by my friend who is a chef at Domaine Chandon.
    Worst steak: Chicken fried steak, with extra patty, from Coco’s in San Diego. It actually wasn’t that bad at 2am, but the next morning i was cursing it.

  4. December 13, 2007

    JasonA

    INteresting show. I have never had a box wine. Nice to know they dont all live up to the reputation of being bad.

    Best steak: I think it would have to be a filet I had cooked up for me and my wife about 13 years ago. I had marinated it in orange juice and some other things. And it just turned out to be the best steak I have ever had. I havent had one better cooking myself or at a restarant since!! :) I have had close to that good, but nothing toping it. The planets must have been in line or something on that night.

    Worst steak: This is a harder question. Hard to remember having a really bad steak!! Maybe it would be the way WAY over cooked rib eye I had on vacation in FL once. I cant even remember the name of the place. But the seafood was great.

    Jason

  5. December 13, 2007

    Dan NYC

    QOTD; Sparks steakhouse whoa!

  6. December 13, 2007

    drydrew

    Best steak at Glatt A La Carte http://www.glattalacarte.com (and by the way they have a grate Kosher wine bare and wine by the glass)
    Worst steak…? ……My mother in-law’s.

  7. December 13, 2007

    Phocion

    Best steak ever…..Creole rub Ostrich steak.

    Yes, ostrich.

  8. December 13, 2007

    David MacDonald

    QOTD: The best steak was at a steak house called Vic and Anthony’s in downtown Houston. It was a great meal with colleagues and the food was exceptional. The worst steak was at a local steak house after they did renovations – they lost the feeling the restaurant had and change their cooking methods.

  9. December 13, 2007

    Theo in Paris

    We once cooked a whole beef tenderloin (which we had gone to one of those free-range, grass-fed, cows-happy-to-be-slaughtered, ranches to pick up) in a salt, thyme and flour crust. After baking, we removed the crust and enjoyed the most tender and flavorful steak I’ve ever had.

    There have been so many bad steaks over the years that its hard to point to a single incident. Once I discovered that there is a relationship between price and quality, there have been far fewer horrible steaks. Of course one has to eat far fewer steaks to afford the very good ones.

  10. December 13, 2007

    Bill W. "ZinZen

    Best Steak:

    A huge ribeye, BBQ’d at our campsite after dusk in the Australian bush, not far from Ularu. Large red “Roos,” and I mean large, attracted by the raging fire and the smell of food, moved very quietly into the flickering shadows behind us that had been thrown off by the flames. Sensing movement, we turned around only to see the orange and red flames reflected in their open eyes and fur. Eery.

    But the beef, well, we tore it apart with our hands and ate like medieval kings…

    Worst Steak:

    In an English pub in London back in 1979. It was after midnight when we rolled in and we were starving. But try though we did we just couldn’t eat those godawful steaks…not even if that meant causing an international incident…which it pretty nearly did. The steaks were so bad that we finally had to ask the waiter what it was…he looked at us in disbelief and asked: “What do you boys think it is?” Which was a very bad move….

    B

  11. December 13, 2007

    Dave from VA

    GV, thanks for the ep. Glad to see that there are occastionally some decent wines that come from a box and might be worth a try.

    QOTD: Best and worst steak, hrm…

    Best: Filet from Bern’s Steakhouse, Tampa FL (which coincidentally, has one of the largest wine cellars in the US, or so they say. This restaurant is incredible!)
    Worst: The Golden Corral, that was a mistake I will not repeat.

    Thanks as always!

  12. December 13, 2007

    David Ziemba

    BEST STEAK…In a tiny restaurant in Sicily 7 months ago when I was on a layover…caballo…yes it was a horse steak and yes it was amazing.

    Thanks Gary

  13. December 13, 2007

    Adrian Tamblni

    Great show, I have always been curious about boxed wines but been to shy to actual buy one. I guess I should just do like you say and pick one up for the hell of it, but after that thoose rave reviews I am still pretty weary. Best steak I’ve had was a New York cut at Ruth Chris in SF. They have quite a selection and I have been meaning to go back…Maybe If I go in and sport an $800 bottle of wine I’ll have an excuse to go agian. Worst Steak: I remember a summer evening when I was proabably 10 or so and my mom made Stroganoff for dinner…it is usally my favorite dish….It has noodles, cream of mushroom soup, sour cream and usally a nice tender meat…For what ever reason the meat was overcooked and super tough…I had to chew and chew and chew it…My mom would not let me be excused from the table until I finished the my plate. I remember sitting at the table for about 30 or 40 min complaining about that horiable meat…I chewed it all up and spit it in my napkin…I then tossed it out the kitchen window when she was not looking…I remember telling her the story yrs later and we both got a good chuckle…Cheers…..Happy Holidays…. Adrian

  14. December 13, 2007

    Jason

    Best Steak: Honeymoon, Ahwanhnee Hotel in Yosemite, they have this amazing table at the end of the dining room that looks out on Yosemite Falls, there also happened to be the most beautiful person in my life sitting on the other side of the table, and i had the best Filet Mignon ever, (was not 21 yet, did not get to have wine). Worst Steak: let me count the ways, more steak is bad then good, unfortunately, I had a Filet Tip a few weeks ago that was terrible, it had the old blood flavor infused in the meat, that nothing could take away, even a great bottle of Barbera. Mind you I love my steaks a little bit mooing normally, but this was not rare, and thank god, we probably would have got sick. (This was at someone’s house, we had to eat, at least I brought the wine).
    Great Episode: I would probably pick up a box wine to try, especially at the price points mentioned. I would probably be disappointed, and wished I hadn’t but, at least i am trying stuff right.

  15. December 13, 2007

    vivaitalia

    Very interesting episode. You know the first thing I thought was that maybe they needed some time out of the box to air out, just as we do with bottled wine. Just a thought. Steak, now that’s a favorite subject of mine. The best i’ve ever had is a porterhouse at a great restaurant called pompeii in Philadelphia. The bottle of Monsanto 1997 Chianti Reserva is what made me fall in love with wine. The worst would have to be the one I had the last time we went to Sam Seltzer’s, it used to be one of our family get together spots but it’s just gone to hell. As far as chain places go, Longhorn has killer steaks. Anyone have an idea of why wines are tasting astringent to me lately?

  16. December 13, 2007

    PaVo

    Best Steak: Kobe/Wagyu steak at a place in chicago called Yoshi’s Cafe, rare, just unbelievable. I’d never had Kobe and compared to how it’s abused in meals all over the fancy restaurants this was just fantastic! Nothing too special done with it just letting the meat shine.

    Worst Steak: An overcooked steak (I sent it back and the second one was cooked even FURTHER) from a fantastic steakhouse which I won’t shame. I don’t know how they screwed up Rare twice. It was upsetting.

  17. December 13, 2007

    Orville B

    Second Night Watching your shows. This is awsome. You have me hooked

    Most surprisingly memorable Steak: 16 oz med rare : Keg Halifax NS
    Most Disappointing in memory bank: ALberta AAA On the BBQ Last Month. Not good.

    Keep up the great work

    Thanks

  18. December 12, 2007

    Foster

    Nice show.

    Best steak – American Kobe strib rare off the home BBQ grill. Not the most tender but the best flavor.

    Worst – Omaha steaks filet mignon given to us as a gift several years ago. No flavor and a streak of gristle running through them.

  19. December 12, 2007

    Ilya

    The worst steak I had was at Peter Lugas in Brooklyn. And the best steak is at Strip House on 12 street in Manhattan followed closely by Sparks in midtown.

  20. December 12, 2007

    MattyM

    Great show, thanks for the input on boxed wine. Enjoyed the show!
    QOTD: Best steak is hands down the Rib Eye. Worst steak (if there is one) would have to be a chuck steak….not the best cut of meat.

  21. December 12, 2007

    DCro

    QOTD:
    Best steak was a NY Strip that I had at a wedding rehearsal dinner.
    Worst…in college we would make a weekly trip to the Ponderosa for the cheap steak and the all you can eat salad bar.

  22. December 12, 2007

    Jeff Cleveland

    I had the Cuvee de Pena when it first came out and thought it was a pretty decent wine. Tasted it one year later and thought it was one of the worst wines I had ever tasted. I definately think that the packaging affected the taste after awhile.

    QOTD: Best Steak – Ribeye on the grill this summer; worst steak – completely overcooked steak at a friend’s cookout this summer.

  23. December 12, 2007

    pete c

    Best steak- ribeye at Capital Grill in Chicago

    Worst- Denny’s

  24. December 12, 2007

    pawncop

    Best steak – III Forks in Dallas Porterhouse medium to die for.

    Worst steak – Oh lord there are so many probably Sizzlin’ Sirloin

  25. December 12, 2007

    MichelleFabulous

    Best steak – ‘The Collinsworth’ at the Precinct (Cincinnati, Ohio);
    Worst steak – all you can eat rib eye extra value meal deal at the Sizzler around the corner

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