New York City Wine Tour – Episode #368

December 11, 2007

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The Thunder Show goes on the road again on a wine tour of New York City. Gary’s first stop is Shelly’s and tastes some wine with Andre Mack.

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  • “Liked the concept for this episode and am looking forward to the next …” by Dessert Wine Nerd
  • “QOTD: Easy one, Dino in Washington DC takes the cake….” by Tooch
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Wines tasted in this episode:

Once Pinot Noir play review at cork'd
2004 Sandro Fay Rosso di Valtellina

play review at cork'd
2002 La Spinetta Barbaresco play review at cork'd

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  1. December 12, 2007

    B-727

    QotD: My favorite restaurant to drink wine at is (1) my favorite restaurant — Le Voltaire in Omaha — and (2) they let me bring my own wine, so I get the best of food and I’m not limited to any place’s wine list.

  2. December 12, 2007

    Pardus

    QOTD: Bilbo Baggin’s Wine Cafe and Restaurant in Alexandria, Virginia

  3. December 12, 2007

    Ryan D

    QotD: Posted this on the forums. My favorite currently is a local restaurant called Prime 15 in Ringwood, NJ. The food is only so-so [steak house, steak is okay, ribs are good, everything else is meh], and the service stinks [but no OMG we're leaving bad]… but the wine list is surprisingly decent and VERY reasonably priced, in some cases below market.

  4. December 12, 2007

    Daniel O

    Awesome episode!

    QOTD: WISH Restaurant here in Toronto. Great little place to have wine by the glass and a decent selection of wines by the bottle for a little restaurant.

  5. December 12, 2007

    YoungDave

    QOTD: I gotta go with my current place of work: TASCA WINE BAR in Los Angeles. Fantastic by-the-glass selection (including 3-4 additional daily specials), decent bottle selection, and great old-world comfort food presented in both small and large plates. For anyone in the LA area: stop in, say hello to Dave (me), and enjoy some good wine and good food.

  6. December 12, 2007

    salvatore

    Wine bars ok

    Video———muhhhhhhhhh wasting my time; called dumbing down America!

  7. December 12, 2007

    Jensen

    Nice episode :)

    QOTD: Sportsman’s. It’s a great wine shop and restaurant here in AZ. They have awesome salads and sandwiches, and a lovely selection of wines by the glass, of course there’s also the option of pulling a bottle out of the store and having them pop it right there for you to drink.

  8. December 12, 2007

    Rajiv A

    It was very interesting to see another wine professional’s technique – the sniff, the taste, how he aerates the wine and chews it rather than doing the GV “bird sounds” and his spitting form.

    QOTD: Can’t afford restaurants, but there’s a great BYO place nearbye: the Blue Point Grill, that has great seafood. Best meal: Small Gully The Formula ‘03 with mussels in white wine sauce and a tuna steak. Wine glasses are terrible, though. Next time I’m bringing my own.

  9. December 12, 2007

    JohnP

    Melbourne(Aus) via London(UK)

    great show gary, many of your medical viewers (traditionally some of the biggest wine nuts going) will have smiled at your inadvertent “back to back nebs” joke – “nurse give this asthmatic back to back nebs!” “will the 2002 do doctor?”

    QOTD Andrew Edmunds in Soho London – great and varying selection at almost cost price including half bottles – excellent for trying a bigger variety of wines during a meal. And of course the legendary Arches Wine Bar in Swiss Cottage.

    Questions related to this episode – vacuum sealing and wine by the glass effective? Especially with larger selections and hence slower turnover especially at the top end. What about these closed systems that allow a vast array of fine wine by the glass – Wonder Bar at Selfridges serves Chateaux Petrus by the glass! Good or Gimmick?

  10. December 12, 2007

    J.Rice

    Well, I didn’t really get into wine until I had moved overseas, so I don’t know many American restaurants where I’d like to drink wine. Plus, I’m from small-town Oklahoma so I don’t think there are many in my neighborhood. However, I do know Mercy Wine Bar in Dallas is kind of cool. They’ve got a neat ambiance, wine available by flights for tasting, and pastas and nibbling-type food. I had a nice time there. But there was also a wine bar/restaurant in Paris I love called Le Vin Qui Danse, where I sampled a lot of good French wines by the glass and had some awesome tuna and salmon tartare.

  11. December 12, 2007

    Medo

    Another great EP Gary! Very good theme imo!

    QOTD: Clearly the Micro/Silk Restaurant in the Cocoon Club in Frankfurt!

  12. December 12, 2007

    KC Dan

    Great idea G keppin it fresh !

  13. December 12, 2007

    vibemore

    Nice episode…I gotta go with ‘Crush’ here in Seattle. They were the first to introduce me to the wonder of Chapoutier.

  14. December 12, 2007

    David James

    Awesome episode Gary. I like the idea!

  15. December 12, 2007

    Scott

    After 368 episodes you still keep the show fresh! THanks.
    QOTD: I usually bring my own bottle, but I would have to sadly name a chain and say Flemings steakhouse. 100 wines by the glass including some sparkling wines and the full wine list is available online, which I really wish more places offered.

  16. December 12, 2007

    Trevor Mauch

    lol, that guy at the end had me! I was thinking… “what an idiot… he’s talking about how expensive this wine is, and he pours the whole damn thing in the glass to ‘rinse’ it!”. Nice work man.

    Hey Gary, there’s this great wine here in Oregon from a Vinyard on the Columbia Gorge that is great. They don’t sell it outside of Oregon and Washington because it isn’t a huge batch. Anyhow, I’ll have to see if I can get some and send you a bottle to review.

    Cheers,

    Trevor

  17. December 12, 2007

    MagnumGourmet

    Looking forward to the rest of the week.

    QOTD – There is a little bistro in Redmond WA called Pomegranate that is a great place to drink wine. They don’t have much of a by the glass selection, but the markup for bottles seems to be about $5-10 over retail. Best prices I have seen on a wine list prety much anywhere. Plus, the food is spectacular.

  18. December 12, 2007

    Jon A.

    Yea, I really liked this episode. I got interested in the whole wine scene when I started to work at a restaurant (3 months ago) so I really enjoy seeing/hearing the thought process behind the different wine selections/programs people have come up with.

    QoTD: Before I started working in a restaurant (and my subsequent plunge into the wine world) I wouldn’t ever order wine by the glass because I knew little of it, and what I did know was cheap, blah wine. And now that I’ve learned enough to be able to navigate through a wine list/make selections I’d enjoy, I don’t have the free time to actually go to a restaurant and be on the other side of the table. Some night in January I’ll be sure to go and treat myself to some fine wine and food.

  19. December 12, 2007

    CrzyWinemaker

    Great episode GV, keep these coming. Just a note, Andre needed his own lapel mic so we could hear what he was saying.

    QOTD: Check out http://www.briccoseattle.com, a great wine bar at the top of Queen Anne Hill in Seattle. They are doing a bang-up job featuring a ton of wines by the glass focusing heavily on Italian producers which give you a chance to try wines you wouldn’t otherwise ever taste.
    Good stuff for sure !!

  20. December 12, 2007

    tiggrdoll

    Flyte World Dining and Wine in Nashville….fabulous selection of wines by the glass! They always have interesting “flytes” of three themed wines.

  21. December 12, 2007

    baald

    a cote in oakland CA. they have (looking at the list online…) 38 BTG pours, and mostly obscure grapes:
    http://acoterestaurant.com/menus/wines.shtml

    re the la spinetta: bubble gum? c’mon! was at a la spinetta tasting the other night and, well….i guess i didn’t taste any 2002s…. (and didn’t taste any bubble gum or popsicle juice either. and i’m not paying $90 to taste popsicle juice. does that mean i can’t buy my la spinettas from WinLib? you getting the special corner candy shop bottlings? ;) )

    baald

  22. December 12, 2007

    Billr

    Interesting episode.

    QOTD: Never have been to one because we don’t have any around these parts. Wish we did though.

  23. December 12, 2007

    SacramentoCharlie

    Great Show: Totally agree with Andre Mac’s take on ‘wine by the glass’ trends. Remember when $4 for a cup of coffee seemed outrageous ? Getting a $15-$25 glass once in a while is a great way to taste the quality of some higher end wines.

    QOTD: Enotria

  24. December 12, 2007

    The Canniz

    QOTD: Tria, Philadelphia, PA!

  25. December 12, 2007

    TWofPasadena

    Great episode Gary. I look forward to more like it. Hey bu the way, you should onsider buying a couple of wireless mics for the next time you go out, though. And be sure they turn the lights on before you start rolling.

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