A Grab Bag Of Wines On The Thunder Show

A Grab Bag Of Wines On The Thunder Show – Episode #379

December 27, 2007

Gary Vaynerchuk sits down and tastes through a few wines and gives you his thoughts.

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Wines tasted in this episode:

2006 Spice Route PinotageSouth African Pinotage
2005 Black Wing ShirazAustralian Shiraz/Syrah
2003 Chat La Tour CarnetOther Red Bordeaux
2004 J.j. Prum Wehlener Sonnenuhr Spatlese RieslingGerman Riesling

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December 28, 2007

AaronW
QOTD: I’m totally on board with the German Riesling phenomenon! Although I’ve probably only had about four GR’s, the ability of Germany to get all that flavor into a bottle of wine absolutely fascinates me! I’ve been eyeballing the J.J. Prum stuff for awhile now and it lookes like I need to take another plunge. Thanks GV for keeping the VaynerNation AWARE!
December 28, 2007

Craig Owen
QOTD: Y/Y, I’ve tasted about 50 so far… I still have a bottle of the ‘01 JJP Wehlener Sonnenuhr Spatlese laying down- what a vintage that was! I had the ‘01 Auslese earlier this year and it was fantastic.

I also would love to see Gary get into some Austrian rieslings on WLTV – they can be amazing (and dry!)… the ‘03 Hiedler Heiligenstein Riesling I tasted earlier this month was the most exciting new wine discovery of the year for me.
December 28, 2007

Brad O
QOTD: Yes and YES!!!!
My wife and I spent 2 years in the Mosel Valley area in 03,04, and 05.
We were able to visit many local Weinguts.
Our favorite was located in Brauneberg. Weingut Heinrich Krebs. He runs a great B&B. His girlfriend has a wonderful gift shop as well.
Heiner produces many different styles of Resling. Our favorite was the 2003 Brauneberger Juffer Reisling-Kabinett Halbtrocken. We brought back a case and have 5 bottles left. They are only pulled out for special occasions. Other areas to hit on the Mosel would be Bernkastel-Kues, Zell(famous for the black cat), Piesport and Trittenheim.
The best part is that many of the local producers sell their wine for 5 to 10 euros a bottle.
If you line it up in advance, often for a small fee you can do a wine probe. It is a tour of the vineyards, sampling wine on the way and a home cooked meal waiting for you on your arrival back.

Great Job Gary. Keep selecting the interesting bottles.
December 28, 2007

Montresor
I’ve had one once, though I don’t remember much about it. However, I did buy two different ones this week!
December 28, 2007

jahlove
QOTD: Yes. Drink a crap load of German Riesling. And it pisses me off when I pull them out for my friends who only take red wine seriously and dismiss German Rieslings as sugar water. For me Riesling, followed very closely by Pinot Noir, if done well, is the most food friendly grape around. In fact, I would go so far as to say Riesling in its finest expression crushes any other white varietal or blend out there. It’s simply no contest. And yes I have had JJ Prum wines. They ALWAYS bring the thunder.
December 28, 2007

MattyO
oh man! the ending! rediculas! great stuff! love it. i wonder…does the oak monster go home at night, open a bottle of wine and say ” aaaahhhhh…the gary-vee-monster makes an appearence…very heavy gary-vee on the mid-palet…” and so forth? you never know…it could happen.

QOTD: no and no. not a lot of access to german wines here. but i should seek them i out. try different things. and i will.

thanks! great show!
December 28, 2007

Rico
QOTD: had one like 2 weeks ago bought another one before but took it me to a family party and never got a chance to try
December 28, 2007

Cabel
Love it when you throw shhhhtuff at the camera! Don’t know why, so very bad arse maybe? who knows. l8r
December 28, 2007

Gabriel
QOFD:

Yes. I haven’t had more than one, though. Limited selections and all…here…just imagine SUPERMARKET WINE ON CRACK; thus is my selection.
December 28, 2007

Withnail
QOTD: Y/Y. I’ve tasted that JJP you had today (maybe not that vintage), but had some German Rieslings off-and-on over the past decade+. My favorites are the von Schubert Maximum Grunhauser – bought them many times and those Mittel Mosels are fantastic.
December 28, 2007

Cabel
Sorry, no and no, but marked down the 2004 JJ Riesling for my next Wine excursion!
December 28, 2007

Darold
QotD: Yes, I have had a lot, as it is tied for one of my favorite wines. It shares it’s spot with Gewurztraminer and Gruner Veltliner. When are you going to do some Austrian wines like Gruner?
December 28, 2007

matthews
qotd- yes and yes german rieslings are some of my favs
December 28, 2007

Jon Armstrong
QoTD: Yes, and yes. I know I’ve had quite a few German Rieslings (it was my grandfathers favorite wine), but I didn’t really pay attention to names until I got hooked on wine later on. A few months ago I tried a few Rieslings by Markus Molitor, and mmmm were they good (especially the auselese).

Speaking of German wines…are you holding out on any recommendations for Sekts, Gary? You’ve talked about grower champagnes, and mentioned a little Cava, how about some German bubbles too? The only reference I’ve found is the Raumland Pinot Blanc Brut Prestige in episode 222, which you gave a pass.
December 28, 2007

stephen j
YES – the one i had seemed unfocused and very sweet
NO – with Riesling being one of my favorites i would love to try more from Germany
December 28, 2007

Laffaye
Yes, I had several Riesling mostly when I visited Germany last year. I drove 50 miles along the Mosel river stoping at 3 or 4 wineries. People at the wineries tried to explain to me about the German Riesling Quality Categories. I remember they have something like 6-8 catogories that were based on grape ripeness and how some wine categories were sweet and others were dried. It was very complex, but I do remember liking one of the categories. Too bad I don’t remember which one.
December 28, 2007

duane adamson
QOTD – Yes and Yes. Too many to count
December 28, 2007

Darlene O.
Great episode, Gary!! QOD: Yes and yes. Actually, I also still have, from Pieroth winery, from Austria, a 1983 Illmitzer Kaisergarten Beerenauslese. Say that three times, really fast!
December 28, 2007

CoolHandLuke
I’ve had one. Don’t remember the name. I enjoyed it. Don’t know why I haven’t gone back.
December 28, 2007

Jeff Baldwin, RN
QOTD: Yes and Yes. About 5 German Reislings and very happy with all of them!
December 28, 2007

Ed Cesarone
ya bitte, zwei mal…Ya Ya, for sure mit Kuchensenfstuhl!
December 28, 2007

Justin E
Yes. I have had more than one. Dont remember which ones they just dont floor me like some other wines do.
December 28, 2007

Kyle Davis
Yes and Yes (6)
December 27, 2007

Panoca
QOTD: yes, yes.
But i tried only the entry level ones (kabinetts and cheap spatleses). Never liked them. Too sugary or syrupy and no acidity to balance it. However, since i’m stubborn and wanna find out why everyone says is the greatest white wine ever, or why they get those huge scores, i recently bought a J.J. Prum Wehlener Sonnenuhr Spatlese from the 2005 vintage. I’ll wait till next year or two and give it another try to these German rieslings. Meanwhile, i’ll drink the alsacean ones. Keep up the good work, Gary. We love you.
December 27, 2007

PhilB
YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO GV!!

Nice ep… I hope you’re having great holidays!

QOTD: 1) YES and 2) YES! Just had one tonight, Studert-Prum Wehlener Auslese 2005… Pretty good, a solid 90-pointer, although not as exciting as the WS score of 94 had me thinking… My favourite producer is probably Dr. Loosen