Wild White Wines – Episode #386

January 15, 2008

Gary Vaynerchuk always says that white wines are dissed and deserve so much more credit for what they bring to the table! Gary today attacks some of the cooler whites in the shop!

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“QOTD: Labelling in the old world, particularly France!…” by richardvinifera
“I love whites! I dont have enough from around the world, but I DIG me…” by Dessert Wine Nerd
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Wines tasted in this episode:

2006 Venge Family Bianco SpettroNapa Other White Wine
2006 Palmina Tocai FriulanoOther California White Wine
2006 St. Cosme Cotes Du Rhone BlancCotes du Rhone Blanc

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Cheese mentioned in todays episode.

Tomme Au Marc Jura Brandy

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January 15, 2008

jason
Bravo, diggin the CDR blanc.saint cosme makes great wine. their CDR rouge is great. i have not had the blanc. i have a bottle of the gigondas 04 in my cellar. everyone is saying that 06 could be better than 05 in the southern rhone… especially the whites. domaine janesse also makes a great CDR blanc.

QOTD: that is a tough thing. at first, it was all really confusing except that it was good. i was in the weeds with burgundy, but it is getting better. it just takes time…. reading, asking but most importantly tasting!
i guess the most confusing thing now i when i go back to the states and trying to navigate through the US wines. usually it is the other way with the french wines. oh well.
January 15, 2008

Jeff R
QOTD:As someone new to wine, what to try next is confusing.
January 15, 2008

cma82
Gary…I drink white Rhones!

QOTD: A big part of Italy still gets me, although I’m trying to get better. All those native grapes can get confusing!
January 15, 2008

Sharon
This is a great ep for me as I enjoy the white varietals that aren’t oaked. In fact, I decided to open the “Black Chook” VMR which is very nice and damn… if it doesn’t have that rubbery component as well… I like it though, lots to recommend it, reminds me of that d’Arenberg Hermit Crab (which is an Australian Viognier Marsanne, no Roussanne though). I knew it had some strange aromatic that I couldn’t identify and wouldn’t have thought ‘rubber ball’ in a million years. Huh! Need to train my palate, yeah.
QOTD: Well, I’m confused by French labels in general, but besides that… some red wines give me a headache and some don’t … would like to know the magic ingredient to avoid. Can drink lots o port but 2 sips of Malbec give me a day-long headache (next day) … weird.
January 15, 2008

mbannon
QOD – All of Southern France still confuses the hell out of me. So many appellations, grapes, styles, etc. Mind boggling.
January 15, 2008

Palmer
QOTD: why people still buy crappy California chardonnay at the grocery store.
January 15, 2008

jonomck
I get confused on regions/variatals/vinyard/area/village/style….etc…….

Guess i just gotta keep on drinkin’
January 15, 2008

rmgroves
Gary: Is that a new table you have here? Xmas present or WLTV capital improvement plan?
January 15, 2008

luvgrapesqueezings
Good ep GV! I love white rhones, but usually stores around here carry one or two. Some might have Condrieu and White CNdP. The most confusing wine thing in my life right now is trying to learn how to read Greek wine labels that have limited English or roman alphabet letters on them.
January 15, 2008

Dr T from N. Carolina
Yes, I’ve had C-du Rhone blancs, and they are ok . . . for white wine. sorry, but 90 out of a 100 times, I prefer red, and 8 of the other 10 times I prefer pink.

Still, for that 1 or 2 times, it’s good to be reminded what’s out there.

“Y”
January 15, 2008

waibeans
3/22 huh?! I hope its insane, but I have one measly little question for ya:

Where are all the thousands of vayniacs going to PARK?!!!!!

LOL.. good luck dude
January 15, 2008

purplejuicebruce
XLNT show even if I don’t much care for white wines although
this year I have started to drink Viogner from time to time.
QOTD…the only thing that really confuses me is the whole
marketing thing why it is more expensive in some states why
wine can’t be shipped to some states. This is the part of the wine world that needs changing for sure.
January 15, 2008

dcseven
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January 15, 2008

dank
yeaaaaaaaaaah! Partay!haha.

Q: most confusing thing about wine?
A: my inability to drink all of it!
January 15, 2008

Taylor
Another great show would love to try a white cotes du rhone
QOTD Why some wine that really isn’t too good can be priced so much higher than decent to good bottle and no one seems to feel bad about ripping you off
January 15, 2008

ceewats
How the blending of just a small amount of one grape can change the wine completely and I’ll either enjoy it more less or not at all..
January 15, 2008

GrapeStuff
QOTD: nailing down all the sub-apps around the world. Its hard enough to taste regions, let alone sub regions.
January 15, 2008

Spyder47
I don’t have any negative notions about white wine … I just prefer red wine. I do open the occasional white and enjoy the exotic fruit aromas of many, but 95 times out of 100, I would rather drink a red.

QOTD: Not really confused, but definitely overwhelmed by the sheer number of different brands / types of wine currently being made. I’m reminded of the grocery store scene in the movie ‘Moscow on the Hudson’ when Robin Williams tries to buy some coffee …
January 15, 2008

Karl Laczko
So what was that black screen section in the middle of today’s show? …and as for that article link (thanks Mott!)do people really trick themselves into believing something they got ripped off on from a wine boutique actually tastes better than the bargain from the local supermarket?

An Anti-Pazzzzzzz? Not had a CdR Blanc, but have a tasty looking CNdP Blanc in the cellar waiting for an opportune moment to pop.

QOTD – Burgundy. I reckon I’m ahead of the curve on most things wine-related, but I still don’t get Burgundy……or California
January 15, 2008

KVolk
QOTD: Being able to identify the flavors in wine. My palate just seems to be dull to some of the taste and flavors I hear about though I can usually identify at least one.
January 15, 2008

MagnumGourmet
QOTD – The most confusing thing to me about wine is the entry prices of some new wineries with no proven track record. I love the explaination from a winery owner (usually not the winemaker) that they tasted their first release against what was on the shelf and it compared to a (insert whatever region) $50 wine. Does that mean that next year if the wine isn’t as good you are going to sell it for $9 because it compares with a bottle of Columbia Crest Two Vines. I think not.

Yet people eat it up – That confuses me!
January 15, 2008

Arthur
Nice ep Gary,

Palmina is a good producer of Italian varieties out of Santa Barbara County.

The article reports on a study conducted at CalTech. I contacted the researchers and obtained a copy of the article and their raw data.
I am awaiting the permission to publish excerpts, but the article was conducted by business and marketing academics. Their conclusions in part say that participants were suggested to think or expect the ‘more expensive’ wines were more pleasurable. The study used functional brain imaging and demonstrated that the parts of the brain involved with emotion were affected but not the parts that actually register the wine’s sensory components. They concluded that what can be thought of as ‘enjoyment’ is a composite of registering objective information and some sort of, more cognitive and conscious element which modulates the significance of the objective data and allows us to conclude whether (or how much) we enjoy the wine.
January 15, 2008

H-town winer
QOTD: Some of the aromas and tastes are confusing. There are many I have never experienced, so its hard to to take some tasting notes and translate them into something I know and understand. But, I’m getting there. I had a Pinot this weekend that reminded me of wet cement and dirt.
January 15, 2008

crank
What happened at the 5:50 mark?
January 15, 2008

Anthony L.
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