Wild White Wines – Episode #386

January 15, 2008

Gary Vaynerchuk always says that white wines are dissed and deserve so much more credit for what they bring to the table! Gary today attacks some of the cooler whites in the shop!

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“QOTD: Labelling in the old world, particularly France!…” by richardvinifera
“I love whites! I dont have enough from around the world, but I DIG me…” by Dessert Wine Nerd
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Wines tasted in this episode:

2006 Venge Family Bianco SpettroNapa Other White Wine
2006 Palmina Tocai FriulanoOther California White Wine
2006 St. Cosme Cotes Du Rhone BlancCotes du Rhone Blanc

Links mentioned in todays episode.

Cheese mentioned in todays episode.

Tomme Au Marc Jura Brandy

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January 16, 2008

Grapestompper (Dave)
GV,

How about a “whiffy-whiff” smell test is what you do to your gym clothes after a week in your locker.
January 16, 2008

Grapestompper (Dave)
Cris Cross!!! That was so CHEESY! I have to admit though, I had the dentists gas as a kid and that smell makes me sick to this day. Love white wines.
January 16, 2008

Andy
Interesting wine G , thanks for the Cote du Rhone white intro . We always forget about Rhone style of wines.

QOTD— How about explaining all those crazy European wine laws dude. That why most people are scared of foreign wine.
January 16, 2008

Todd Smith
Excellent idea from coolhandluke; “Mott, Link it up!” bumper stickers.

QOTD – The thing that confuses me the most is how we can get great wines all the way from say, Australia or even Sapin, shipped over here (USA)and still be able to retail them for $8-$12 dollars per bottle. We can’t get decent wines from Cali at that price. The cost in the land, growing the grapes, making the wine, cellaring the wine, bottling, labeling and shipping has to be more than what we are paying for some of these “high value” wines. Are there subsidies at work here? Are importers and distributors selling wines below cost just to have US market presence?
January 16, 2008

MB Dallas
QOTD: Palate development; When tasting wine, I’m not able to pick up 2nd tier, 3rd tier flavors. Distinguishing between flavors on the mid-palate and the rest of the flavors I taste. How to discern “good tannin structure”. Though I did, for the first time, really smell “sweaty sock” on a varietal I’d never tried before (Las Rocas de San Alejandro Garnacha).
January 16, 2008

JerseyGirl turned CNY vayniac
QOTD: It’s confusing to me that so many people think that if you like wine and enjoy learning about it, it makes you a “wine snob”. Why can’t wine just be fun? Why do people assume that wine lovers are snobby and picky just because we know a bit about a very complex and constantly evolving subject?

When I offer to help friends or family pick out wine, I’m not trying to prevent them from making a bad choice (cause with the selection available, I’m just as likely to do the same) – I’m just trying to help them make an more educated decision. I’m trying to help them spend their money on something I think they’ll enjoy, rather than a shot in the dark. If I read tons of novels and recommended a book to someone they’d never call me a “book snob.” If I was an avid hiker and recommended a trail or campsite, no one would think I’m a “hiking snob”. But with wine it’s different… why?

Wine is fun! Why do people think it’s not? It’s confusing why wine has such an odd connotation in our culture.

That’s my ROTD (Rant of the Day).
January 16, 2008

Susan
Gary-No, I haven’t tried Cote D’Rhone Blanc yet…………..will try soon!!!!!!!!!!
January 16, 2008

RANDI
Gary I was waiting to see if you were going to spit the cheese out into the Jets bucket!!

Since Im in NY, when I asked for suggestions on wine vacations, I really didnt think you would say Springfield, New Jersey! But, hey..why not!
Except…..3/22?!?!?! Noooo.. I cant make it! Can you reschedule..Im sure everyone will understand. Get Lizzie on the horn, we need to find a different Saturday.

QOTD: I still have difficulty identifying tastes. Im training my palette. I know what I like and what I dont like, but I cant always explain why.
January 16, 2008

fredhead
QOTD: I can’t figure out what the heck I’m smelling. If wine either smelled like fruit or my dog, I could tell the difference. Beyond that, it starts getting complicated.
January 16, 2008

Tony
Most confusing – figuring out French wines in general
January 16, 2008

salvatore
Betty White !!!!!!!! She sells pet medicine doesn’t she ??

What’s confuseing about wine? Two bottle from the same producer,kind, and vintage can taste completely different.

Patriots Rule…. I won’t let you forget it for a second for the rest of 2008!

3/22/08……. not good for travelers ! Need to be at the Easter Egg hunt with the grandkids early on 3/23/08.
January 16, 2008

kool booy
I LOVE white wine episodes, im a huge fan of white’s. thank you so much !
January 16, 2008

Ryan D
QotD: Most confusing thing for me is the complete variety that is afforded us in wine when they are all basically coming from the same thing… grapes. It’s also the most wonderful thing.

Marking March 22nd on my calendar… hopefully my wife will let me come.
January 16, 2008

Achilleas in Cyprus
QOTD: Still confuses me the amount of varieties of grape there are out there.

Also confuses me how I am going to manage to drink them all in one lifetime
January 16, 2008

Justin L Ove
Fabulous Fruit Focus Factor….with Cheese

I’d say the most confusing thing for me in the wine world is the sheer scope of each varietal. I am consistently surprised by the diversity of flavor profiles within each grape I try.
January 16, 2008

Yourfrienddownunder
I get very confused every time I try to remember or explain wine making processes for different wines (red, white, rose, fortified, champers etc). I have confused my friends a few time too.
January 16, 2008

John Witherspoon (J DUB)
HEY GV
Not sure what one thing still confuses me about the wine world. I of course, like most people that are into wine and continue to learn about it on a daily basis feel that the more I learn the more I don’t know. I still think I have the most to learn about France, in particular Burgundy.

See ya
J DUB
January 16, 2008

J.Rice
I think what I struggle with is how to really refine your nose and palate once you’ve achieved a general ability to discern basic flavors. Lots of tasting, especially tasting several different varietels back to back? Probably. Palate-building exercises such as eating dirt like Gary does? Apparently that works. But all the same, I guess that would be what confuses me about wine.
January 16, 2008

Hotshot162
QOTD: Everything about wine is still very confusing to me as I only start drinking like 2 months ago!
January 16, 2008

Tom R
QOTD: I think the issue that confuses me the most is why the flavor of oak in wine is supposed to be such a terrible, terrible thing.
January 16, 2008

Oregon Jim
I am so excited about the Taste of Washington! Are you doing the Seattle or Spokane event? What day(s)

Ya Ya white wine is great, super, really nice. Maybe about 10% of it anyway.

Glad to see you retire Sniffy Sniff.

QOTD Wine is confusing as to why I like it so much, want to study how it comes to be, how to drink it, which to buy, how to store it.

My QOTD: Is there any other man made product that after it is delivered into your hands gets better and appreciates in value?
January 16, 2008

medo
Ou, tough QOTD: I think for me the most confusing thing in the wineworld are the 1 million differnt grapes in Portugal – far away for being transparent to the customer!
January 16, 2008

CoolHandLuke
Most confusing thing? Actually, the most frustrating thing is not being able to smell like you do. My palette is very broad. I had good folks who exposed me to all kinds of flavors and cultures but I can’t smell the nuances that you smell.

I have in my possession a Cotes du Rhone Blanc but haven’t opened it yet.

Mott t shirt or bumper sticker what if every car in America had “Mott, Link it up!” bumper stickers? Awesome!
January 16, 2008

Joe
QOTD:
The confusing thing to me about wine is… its just grape juice. I understand the differentiation between great and bad wines, but still, at the end of the day its who you drink it with that matters.

I don’t understand why we always, ALWAYS, have to take wine so seriously (ratings, wine makers, age, terroir, grape varietal). For centuries wine has been a familiar, daily, every-man’s drink, but today it is such a “bourgeois” “status symbol” possession. Unfortunately, we have ruined wine by making it a science and rated commodity. Further more, we take all things French way too serious(cheese and wine simple because it is French).

I only wish that the wine community and drinkers could understand that in the end it doesn’t matter how much you paid, or what the score was. If it doesn’t bring you joy it wasn’t worth it. Perhaps I am an idealist, but nevertheless we must except what is and enjoy it while we are here.
January 16, 2008

Andrew
Hey Gary

I had my first Tocai Friulano (Villa Russiz Tocai Friulano 2006) two nights ago for this months Wine Blogging Wednesday for the theme Friuli white (see http://www.winebloggingwednesday.org/). An interesting wine and one that changed dramatically with a bit of time in the glass – the cutting acidity softened and the whole mouth feel became unbelievably luscious and rich. Grass and herbs on the nose also disappeared and were replaced by pears and almonds – very interesting stuff

QOTD: relationships between vineyard, season/year, winemaking and the finished product (preferably through lots of comparison based tastings!)

Andrew