Cabernet Franc From Different Places – Episode #406

February 12, 2008

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Gary tastes 3 very serious Cabernet Franc wines 2 from Loire valley and one from California.

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Wines tasted in this episode:

2005 Amirault Bourguiel La CoudrayeBourgueil play review at cork'd
2004 Olek-mery Chinon Des TireauxChinon play review at cork'd
2005 Larkin Cabernet FrancNapa Cabernet Franc play review at cork'd

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  1. February 13, 2008

    wayno da wino

    Whoooooooohoooooo !!!
    “Da Funk in da Trunk”…….”Diiiirty Vegetables”………”Cow Manure”…..
    Gee……..i can’t get dat CF fast enough……i’m seekin’ it out Pronto!!!

  2. February 13, 2008

    Johnny C. a.k.a SmokinActuary

    OK I promise

  3. February 13, 2008

    Russ J

    I have feeling Larkin will do AOK, even with your PAZZZZZ, GV, so don’t sweat it. I agree by the way, in terms of your feelings about “made up” wines.

    QOTD: I had a Bourguiel this past Sunday, a 2004 Mabileau, and I warned everyone to expect the veggie funk and it had a bit but it was way smooth with very nice fruit wrapped around those veggies.

  4. February 13, 2008

    latraviata

    QOTD: gee, will it be possible to find one in PA?

  5. February 13, 2008

    Nick

    I’m looking forward to a good veggie cab

  6. February 13, 2008

    sobojosh

    2005 Les Petites Roches Chinon (Kermit Lynch)

    Color, dark ruby/purple : Day bright.

    Nose: yeah, funk da fun, Where’s the fruit? Pomagranite if any thing. tightish… well not the funk, thats pretty big

    Mouth: high acidity and tannins, low fruit… :( gotta have that

    86ish

  7. February 13, 2008

    Cliff A

    Gary – Great show today. Don’t let too many of us in on the secret about Cab Franc from the Loire! Next thing you will be telling them about Red Sancerre!!Seriously, you are absolutely dead on with Loire Reds. Wonderful that the two Loire Cab Francs blew away the overpriced Cali Cab Franc.

    QOTD: I had a cabernet franc on Monday, but I may break out another this weekend. Drank a: 2002 Olga Raffault Chinon Les Picasses. This was the last bottle of a case I bought a few years ago. Fun to see how this wine evolved with age.

    My Tasting Note: Tasty Chinon and a great QPR. A much more balanced wine as it matures. Leather, earthy and red fruit on the nose. Ruby garnet in color and showing signs of age at the rim. On the palate a good bit of red fruit – raspberry, strawberry – and some musky flavors. A medium finish on the medium bodied wine.

  8. February 13, 2008

    SGoodwin

    QOTD – I definitely accept this assignment. The hunt for a Loire Cab Franc is all the excuse I need to make a little trip down to my favorite wine shop this weekend! And I’ll provide a full report afterwards. Bring on the veggies!!

  9. February 13, 2008

    CORSkier

    I love Cab Franc, and sadly have not had a Loire CF yet. Try some of the top Walla Walla producers if you want a good new world style Cab Franc, as well as Del Rio and Foris in Southern Oregon. Not oak monsters, and beautiful balance. I WILL go out and buy a Loire valley CF today, just because you got me so pumped up about it, and probably drink with steaks tomorrow for VDay dinner!

  10. February 13, 2008

    Will G

    I tried a Chinon in 2007, after your last Chinon episode. Wasn’t terribly into it, but am definitely willing to give a second try with one of these two. The last Cab Franc that I enjoyed was a wedding gift…Stepping Stone Cab Franc from Cali. If I try another one, I’ll be back to post!

  11. February 13, 2008

    SaraMHCRU

    hmm. perhaps. watching this show has given me a MASSIVELY long list of wines/regions to try…and in order to function, i kinda need to spread them out a bit!

  12. February 13, 2008

    mrzitro

    My 1st Cab Franc was the 2004 Domaine de la Noblaie Chinon ‘Les Chiens-Chien’ which you tasted on WLTV episode #200. Last night I went to a wine tasting featuring Meeker wines from CA. My 1st taste of the night was their Cab Franc. WOW, it was dirty & veggie. Meeker also makes a PV which was not part of the official tasting & didn’t have any there for sale. I told Mr. Meeker about you and your love for PV & that I never have tasted a PV. He said he had PV in his car & brought back two bottles of their ’02 & ’04 PV. What an educational experience for the PAL.
    I will check again with our local wine shops to see if they have any Loire Valley reds, otherwise I won’t be able to have one until after I order one.

  13. February 13, 2008

    Jeff W

    Must buy Loire. Must buy Loire. Must buy Loire. Must buy Loire.

  14. February 13, 2008

    Awin

    I will seek a Loire Valley Cab Franc and get back to you. I do like Napa Valley Cab Franc from Peju.

  15. February 13, 2008

    Jose

    http://cad-comic.com/comic.php?d=20080213

  16. February 13, 2008

    Chris Barnes

    It must be really tough to score a friend’s wine poorly. I am surprised that you even do it, honestly. If I were in your shoes, I would avoid tasting wines that I wouldn’t want to score badly. In addition, if you were to score it highly, it would be suspect. Seems like a lose-lose. :)

    But thanks for doing it anyways. ;)

    Chris

  17. February 13, 2008

    Gee

    Good show. I really love Bourgeuil and Chinon too. Agree completely that the vegetal qualities put a lot of friends off. Have you had Chinon from Domaine du Raifault? They’re excellent.

    BTW, have we ever had Bourgeuil or Chinon on free.winelibrary.com?

  18. February 13, 2008

    JOEL M

    Thanks GV! I love Cab Franc, been exploring the Long Islind producers of late. Now I will put the
    Chinon and Bourguiel on my radar.

  19. February 13, 2008

    Valerie

    QOTD: I promise to look for a Bourgueil or Chinon to try “old world” vegetal wines, and come back here to give you the results.

  20. February 13, 2008

    JayZee

    GV, you KNOW I love the “Old World” wines better than the “New World”. I got over my soda pop addiction a long, long, long time ago. Excellent show. I think I am really going to like episodes 401-500! Keep up the great work!!

    QOTD: If I cannot get one at the store, I will try one from my cellar. I think I have a couple of different Chinons down there. One from a local shop that I’ve tried and another from WL that I haven’t as yet. So I will in the next few days.

  21. February 13, 2008

    sharon

    Okay, okay. I’ll try to find one. (This hobby is so demanding!)

  22. February 13, 2008

    LudwigVan

    QOTD: promised!

  23. February 13, 2008

    HudsonValleyMark

    QOTD: Gary – long time lurker, first time replier. I promise to pick up a CF up on the way home, that is if the store isn’t flooded. If it is, I’ll go Scuba Steve on the store.

  24. February 13, 2008

    JeffC

    QOTD: I have had Chinon’s before and really do enjoy Cab Franc. I will definitely seek out and enjoy, if not this week, the near future. Wish you had a WL place here in NC.

    Anyway, how do wine producers like Larkin think they can charge $60 and compete with the Loire Valley?? Seems a bit arrogant to me. Dont understand. No brainer. 3 bottles vs 1?? Even if the one was decent.

    Later. Thanks Gary. And I too am glad you are reading all the comments.

  25. February 13, 2008

    Colin

    GV – Thanks for this show! I love the poo – so I will revisit these areas. I’ll be in the Fingers this weekend – where the Cab Franc has not, IMO, come around. And I keep trying it – still too green. Yet – I have hope they will get better – so they can add a red to what they do well.

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