Laid Back Friday With Wines From The Finger Lakes

Laid Back Friday With Wines From The Finger Lakes – Episode #409

February 15, 2008

On a laid back Friday Gary Vaynerchuk tries 2 wines from New York State.

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Wines tasted in this episode:

2006 Herman Wiemer GewurztraminerNew York Gewurztraminer
2006 Herman Wiemer Dry RieslingNew York Riesling

283 Responses

February 15, 2008

Mott
1st
February 15, 2008

Finn
2nd..No lurking here, my friend
February 15, 2008

KenP
Have a great weekend, GV. On to the show! (top 5!)
February 15, 2008

brooklyni
thanks for representing the east coast gary!
February 15, 2008

James
QOTD: GV – I’m always trying new wines… I remember watching a wine video in Oz years ago when the presenter was asked ‘what is your favourite wine?’ The answer… ‘The next one’. So true
February 15, 2008

Kristen
Nice! Laid back Friday! Can’t wait to watch.
February 15, 2008

Luke
Great show, as always. QOTD: never had any good ones. Damn you L.C.B.O.
February 15, 2008

Softballnut
Damn LCBO?? Well you haven’t experienced the MLCC.

QOTD – nope, none here either.

Thanks for another great show GV

SBN
February 15, 2008

MitchT
Gary how come your never talk about BRUTUS “THE BARBER” BEEFCAKE!
February 15, 2008

KVolk
QOTD: me and my “pal” are stepping out some…tried a pinot, even bought some white wine and I am looking for some of the old country stuff GV talks about..
QOTD: nope no NY wines……yet
February 15, 2008

Dean D.
QOTD: None here either from the BCLCB

Have a good weekend GV
February 15, 2008

MagnumGourmet
Top 20…Woo Hoo!
February 15, 2008

BEETZ
QOTD Grapes of Roth Merlot
Good not great
February 15, 2008

JordanW
QOTD1: Yes, in fact I’ve got a nice Baco Noir that I’m going to try in the next few days.
QOTD2: Never had one.
February 15, 2008

JordanW
I would also like to curse the LCBO.
February 15, 2008

Michael Y
top 20
February 15, 2008

Brandon T.
what i’d like to suggest: gary takes a bathtub, fills it with petit verdot grapes and also a mixture of various jams and jellies, then adds a hot model and jumps in while slathering the buttocks with excellent sexuality while reciting poems and laughing?
February 15, 2008

David Dadekian
QOTD 1: Of course! My palate’s getting trained, it’s my nose that I wonder about sometimes.

QOTD 2: I’m really not sure. I know I don’t have anything in the house right now from NY.
February 15, 2008

Michael Mohammadi
QOTD: 2006 Standing Stone Riesling – my notes: Pale yellowish color. Floral bouquet with some apple and pear. Light body with pear, apricot and mineral notes. Medium-light acidity with a crisp finish. 86 pts
February 15, 2008

Ryan D
QotD #1: Always up for trying new things so yes.

QotD #2: Last NY wine I had was a sweet wine, Warwick Valley Harvest Moon.
February 15, 2008

Kristian
QOTD: Yes, I have expanded my palate; I’ve been drinking cheaper wine than usual and I liked it.
February 15, 2008

jimkay
DOn’t catch too many episodes this early – great way to start a laid back weekend down here in NC
February 15, 2008

Paul
QOTD: Living on Long Island, tough not to have tried some. I would recommend the Borghese Cab Franc, good effort for the price. Took a trip through the finger lakes to try the Rieslings and either established that I don’t like Riesling or I don’t like NY Riesling. Far too many sweet wines for my liking but did enjoy Standing Stone.
February 15, 2008

MagnumGourmet
QOTD – Closest I have gotten to a NY wine is a Marechal Foch from Wisconsin.
February 15, 2008

Michael Y
qotd never
February 15, 2008

GrapeStuff
QOTD: Never
February 15, 2008

jimkay
Nice show, last NY wines – Bedell Merlot, 95 vintage I think. Very nice.
February 15, 2008

CuriousInStLouis
Gary, you always make the Gewurztraminer sound so good!!

QOTD 1: Had some of the Duboeuf Beaujolais Nouveau 2007. I found it better than the KJ Pinot but bland compared to a Chateau Lascombe that I had a few weeks ago. Had my first Sauterne. Stunning! Drank the whole 750 in about three days!

QOTD 2: New York wines? Don’t recall any. Unless you count New York “Champagne”. LOL!
February 15, 2008

John P
QOTD: I actually had this Reisling a few months ago and I gave it an 89.
The finger lake wines are actually good and this Reisling was better
than I expected.
February 15, 2008

SKN
QOTD 1: Yes, I expanded my palate with a Rose last weekend … and …
QOTD 2: about to go to the store to find my first NY wine for this weekend.

FedEx delivered my Official Vayniac t-shirt yesterday and I’m proudly wearing it on this LAID BACK FRIDAY!
February 15, 2008

Scott
Bedell 2005 Merlot. Yummm.
February 15, 2008

JerZGeo
QOTD: 2006 Herman Wiemer Dry Riesling with v-day dinner last night

weird coincidence
February 15, 2008

David Masi
Gary…too many Rieslings out there between the ones from Alsace, Australia, California and New York. So far the ones I have enjoyed most come from Alsace. It would be intersting to compare them side by side. QOTD#1- Wines from SW France…really good and all under $25! QOTD#2- Went to a wine shop in Greenwich Village over the holiday that only poured NY wines, tasted through many and unfortunatley enjoyed none.
February 15, 2008

Chaz
Last NY wine was a 2003 Cab Sauv from La Comtesse Therese, Long Island. At 25 bones (would that be b25 / 25b?) it’s a bit expensive, but the winemaker’s father is one of my philosophy professors in college, so I snagged it for free.
February 15, 2008

Adam J
QOTD #1-Yea, I Had a Les Baux De Provence Rose..awesome.
Qotd#2- I live in the hudson valley and drink NY wine quite a lot. Last tried the Atwater Gewurz…my pal did not agree:( I am looking forward to trying the Herman W. Gewurz! I love the show more everyday!
February 15, 2008

T. Reasoner
Yes I have been expanding my pal. I am going with some Loure Valley wines next weekend’s tasting party and no never had any wines from NY… Very hard to get here In Maui…

aloha,

T
February 15, 2008

Greg B
Big G, congrats on getting all those shows in for the week. True Pro!

QOTD: Never have, but willing to try.
February 15, 2008

JeffC
QOTD: Yes, I have had wines from the Finger Lakes Region of NY. I had and enjyed white wines from Herman J Weimer, Dr. Konstantian (sp) Frank, and Wagner Vinyards. Do not recommend trying anything from Bully Hill. Scary.
February 15, 2008

jason
never really had the opertunity really. my best friend’s parents have cases of the stuff, but he never offers it to me casue he says it is the sweetest shit that i would ever taste. maybe i will check out the drier wines.
i did crack open a bottle of 2004 chat. giscours tonight : )
February 15, 2008

VinoPhilosopher
Totally been expanding my pal lately. Just got a shipment yesterday that included what will be my first Primitivo, Corvina & Anglianico. God bless the Italians!
February 15, 2008

Dr T from N. Carolina
Yeah! The first wine region I visited extensively (if decades ago). But no Catawba Pink? I don’t know if I’ve had any Finger Lakes wine since grad school, 20+ years ago

QOTD — I intend to get to the century varietal mark this year — was at 85 three weeks ago. Up to 90, 10 more to try, so that’s expansion!

“T”
February 15, 2008

Tom T.
Hey Gary – you must be reading my palate. I just finished two wines from Long Island. One was Potato Barn Rose which was not too good. The other was the Paumanok Vineyard 2001 Riesling. The Paumanok was really great. I think you’d like it too, as it had a nice funkiness to it.
February 15, 2008

Phil G
QODD1 – Trying new stuff on a regular basis. Actually been getting more into Spain recently.
QOTD2 – Went to college in the Finger Lake region, so I have been to many of the wineries up there. Most recent I can remember was a Dr. Konstantin Frank Riesling that was not too bad.
February 15, 2008

cameron w
Always trying something new, but that hasn’t extended to NY wines yet.
February 15, 2008

ChrisR
Yay for Finger Lakes wines!!! And a big shoutout to Ithaca!
QOTD1: Yes. Hell Yes.
QOTD2: Having a bottle of Duckhorn tonight. Maybe some Thirsty Owl. My last one was a Sheldrake Cab Franc.
February 15, 2008

Patrick
I try new things all the time, and I suppose the next will have to be an NY wine.
February 15, 2008

Rani Haykal
Great Show!!!

QOTD1: Always expanding my Pal. Dont plan to stop anytime soon

QOTD2: Never had a New York State wine before. They are harder to seek out in Texas and also I never really thought to try wine.

–RH
February 15, 2008

Carolyn
qotd1 – always
qodt2 – can’t say that I have…..have you ever tried an Ohio wine??? hehe
February 15, 2008

Brian Specht
qotd1: yes
qotd2: NO
February 15, 2008

Valerie
QOTD: Yes, I have been trying all new wines…almost none of the wines I have drunk in the past 6 months have been known brands, varietals, or regions that I knew of bfore watchng this show!
February 15, 2008

mbannon
Oh no, you’ve caught me! I’ve NEVER had a New York wine. Sad. Will have to fix that.

Hey, what’s up with all the wine you dump?? Jerk.
February 15, 2008

Sharon
QOTD1: Almost about every bottle I try is a first of its kind for me.
QOTD2: I think I may have tried a NY wine 2 years ago while having a vacation in the Adirondacks, but wasn’t ‘wine aware’ enough at the time to register the producer/type in my memory banks. Shall certainly seek out that Gewurtz!
February 15, 2008

John Farrin
QOTD: If I’ve had any New York state wines it was probably over 30 yrs. ago and I honestly don’t remember.
February 15, 2008

Shadowbird
QOTD1: I usually drink a different wine each time. Maybe a same producer but a different varietal.

QOTD2: …I don’t think I’ve had any from New York.
February 15, 2008

sharon
No..a New York wine is not something I generally look for. I’m still thinking about that poor deer, you brought up yesterday, covered in berries….Kind of violent for a wine tasting program.
February 15, 2008

Johnny C. a.k.a SmokinActuary
I am always expanding my palette.

The last NY State wine I had was a Tokay-Fruliano from the Maybrook Winery.
February 15, 2008

Fingerlaker
wooohoooo!!! Home sweet home!!!
February 15, 2008

Deano
Gary good episode.

QOTD:
-I have been expanding my pal but i haven’t had any new york wines
February 15, 2008

Fingerlaker
qotd: tryin new stuff everytime i visit the local wine shop…
qotd2: 05 dr frank dry riesling

but.. sry kath.. gonna bag on the hasek jersey.. he was a cancer to the sabres.. only tried when he felt like it. but big ups for the demonic goat jersey (down with the buffa-slug!!!)
February 15, 2008

Sean
qotd 1: always, recently spanish whites.
qotd 2: 2004 Lieb Family Cellars Reserve Cabernet Franc.
February 15, 2008

SoCal
QTOD: I have been trying my best to do just that…..
QOTD#2: Not yet, I will save that for the trip to WL…..
February 15, 2008

bfrankphoto
That’s also known as the “Bum Look”
February 15, 2008

Wine and Food Pairing
THANK YOU, GARY!

Kathleen

Keep on trying wines from New York State!
February 15, 2008

Dave Canada
I am so expanded!
QOTD – MacGregor…..great winery on Kueka Lake. I had a tonne of their wines in the last year!
February 15, 2008

purplejuicebruce
For sure trying many types of wine especially Italian, Spanish, Australian Chilean and Argentinian wines…..NY wines not so much ok never
February 15, 2008

Cma82
QOTD: Of course! I’m always trying new wines, tonight we’re going with a Langhe

QOTD2: On Wednesday I had two NYstate wines. I had the 2006 Herman Weimer Riesling, and felt pretty much the same way that you did about it, I went around 88pts if we’re keeping track. I also had a 2003 Palmer Cab Franc Reserve which I wasn’t super impressed with.
February 15, 2008

Glen... winecrazy.com
Haven’t really tried any of these I must admit.

So, where are you and when are you getting back?
February 15, 2008

waibeans
happy fri-day GV!

good on ya
February 15, 2008

Karl Laczko
A nice couple of whites there, I’d happily drink either.

QOTD – The WÃ¶lffer 1998 Cabernet Franc, drank last October. Rated it 89 but I think it was past it’s peak, could have been into the 90s a couple of years ago. That was the one and only, difficult to source NY wines over here (I picked up the WÃ¶lffer on a trip to D.C.)
February 15, 2008

bigmay
Q(s)OTD: Yes, recently I’ve tried my first Albarino, Torrontes, and Bonarda. It’s all for you GV. Have not, however, ever had a NY wine.
February 15, 2008

Snarf
QOTD: 2002 Paumanok Asseblage LI, Bordeaux style blend. It was kick-ass great; served it blind and NOBODY pegged it as being from LI.
February 15, 2008

Lawrence Leichtman
I had some Riesling from Finger Lakes and can’t remember the producer but I didn’t like it. My palate is already pretty well developed from tasting so many wines and other things over the years. I don’t have the palate of GV because so many of these things from the 80’s he describes are things maybe my kids would have eaten and I wouldn’t eat much of anything they were eating. When GV described a dear, I have to wonder if he has ever dealt with fresh killed dear. The odor is a combination of iron and crap. Not really what I want in a wine.
February 15, 2008

Marshall
QOTD: Never had one in my entire natural life! But, I’d like to someday.
February 15, 2008

Len
I’m always trying something new or looking for that exceptional bottle of wine. As far as NY wines, not impressed…it may be because the wine I had wasn’t any good or just ok to good…I give it a pass for now. Good episode…not only do we get wine-tasting with scores but fashion week! or fashion statement……….
February 15, 2008

thefanjestic
Qotd – Never had a New York wine but yes I am trying to expand my palate this year!
February 15, 2008

Christopher J
QOTD: Never had a wine from NY, they are harder to find in the Midwest. Also, I have been trying tons of new wines including a new favorite: Pinotage.
February 15, 2008

alos
I have not had any bro, but I will try and find some. It is hard to find it around my house.
February 15, 2008

brent
QOTD1: always trying to expand the palate (a Menetou-Salon tonight)
QOTD2: Never had a NY wine
February 15, 2008

Remps108
I drink a LOT of wines from the Finger Lakes region, mainly because my wine-o parents go up there twice a year and come back with more cases than they know what to do with. And as I am a big fan of Gewurzes, I totally agree with your assessment of Weimer’s. As odd as it sounds, though, I don’t know if I’ve ever tried his Dry Riesling, since that seems to be the main wine coming out of that region.

QOTD: I’m pretty sure the last NY state wine I had was the 2006 Fulkerson Traminette (fantastic w/ Chinese food). I’ve also very recently had the 2005 Shalestone Harmony, a really nice 50/50 blend of Merlot and Cab Franc. My parents and I both agree that Shalestone makes the best reds of any Finger Lakes winery.
February 15, 2008

Neil
QOTD 1: The universe IS expanding.
QOTD 2: The universe hasn’t expanded to Long Island.
February 15, 2008

FJDR
QOTD: I had some back in the Nineties when I lived up there. Don’t remember which though, I didn’t used to keep track of what I drank like I do now.
February 15, 2008

Kathleen Lisson
FingerLaker –
I bought that jersey at the last home game he played. Gotta represent Buffalo, even though I live in Albany now.
GO SABRES!
Kathleen Lisson

I always give my PAL something new to taste, Gary.

I am going out to get a bottle of Dr. Frank’s Riesling just as soon as the boyfriend gets home from the Army tonight (on location in Fort Carson this weekend)
February 15, 2008

amgryger
QOTD: I am always trying new wines.
QOTD 2: Last NYS wine I’ve had was a Dr. Frank Dry Riesling, don’t remember which vintage off the top of my head.
February 15, 2008

Sue Z.
Thanks for the NY Finger Lakes experience GV!!! I’ve been going up there for about 5 or 6 years now and the rieslings, gewertz, and ice wines kick some serious ass!! I can’t wait to try the ‘07 wines this fall.
QOD – Torrontes, Alberino, and I just picked up some white Cote de Rhone……..keep it rollin bro;-)
February 15, 2008

Thanks to our Vets!
QOTD 1: I’ve only been serious about wine drinking for about 2 months. The entire world is new to me, baby!

QOTD 2: New York? That’s like, north of Pennsylvania, right?
February 15, 2008

Barb
I ADORE HERMANN, and Fred & the Finger Lakes! I love them so much I HAD to work at Wiemer’s place for a harvest season; literally heaven on earth. His Gewurztraminer was my instant favorite. The 2002 Cab Franc was magnificent and most recently I had to crack open the 1999 Cuvee Brut; simply classic and classy! Gotta love his ice wine too…
I work with wines in Arkansas now we must get some NY State wines down here!
Great choices Gary; you made my day!
February 15, 2008

BobbyTiger
Lot’s of different Malbecs and Torrentes’ from Argentina. Also some Italian. As far as New York wines…….not much. Tried a couple of sparkling wines a few years back, and really wasn’t impressed. That surprised me, as I am easily impressed.
February 15, 2008

Robin C
QOTD: I’m waiting for free shipping to order a New York wine or two from you.
Everyone liked the Breggo pinot last night, but not so much the Termes tempranillo. It was probably a little young.
I kind of like the assymetrical shirttail look – just don’t make it look too studied.
February 15, 2008

Joe F
This week,I had two wines from Pellegrini Vineyards – a 2002 Encore Red Wine(blend of, I believe Cabernet, Merlot and some Cab Franc) and a bottle of Finale the desert wine.
I also had an Ice Wine from the Swedish Hill Winery up in the Finger Lakes that was unbelievable! It was a ten year old vintage that had smelled of roses, peaches, pineapples, honey and a hint of gasoline fumes. And all of this was on the palate. It was thick and luscious and I am glad my wife forgot I had this one bottle left or it never would have seen its tenth birthday ( it would have been lucky to make it to three!)
February 15, 2008

Chris
QOTD- Never had one. Never even seen one when I’ve been looking at Rieslings etc.
February 15, 2008

Rich
Great Friday show, I like the 1/2 tuck, love the Gewurz. and NY State wines!
February 15, 2008

John S
Gar

Had a fantastic Torrontes the other day – at room temperature, amazing! and nowhere near as good cold. Obviously the St-Nicholas de Bourgeil planned for the weekend and A really unexpected, sumptuously magnificant Spanish Sardon De Duero 2004 – ALL wines I would not normally have gone for previously.
February 15, 2008

*/^_^\*
qotd: been drinking plain cranberry and pomegranate juices to train my red wine pal
qqotd: never. don’t get’em in oklahoma.
February 15, 2008

RichE
GV, Your Mom told me to tell u to tuck in your shirt..NOW!!
Gonna have to try the Herman Wiemer Gewurztraminer.

QOTD:
A Millbrook, NY Chard
February 15, 2008

Marc
Never had a NY state wine…but there WILL be a first time.
February 15, 2008

chenrys
Yes, we are expanding our palates…whenever possible.

QOTD: Never had a wine from NY State. We’ll keep an eye out for them.
February 15, 2008

Dominus
I need to find a nice Gahverts this weekend. Good show. And yes, you get 15 emails but I hear 15 mins of “why does he waste that wine”? So maybe pre-rinse and have a separate glass for each?

Pre QOTD: I’m trying to expand my PAL so much I keep track so I can become a member of the Centurion Club. Let’s try some off-the-wall (good album) varietals so I can add to my list?

Post QOTD: Nope, no NY wines for me though I must say they are hard to find at most wine shops. There was a great show on “fine living” by Andrea Zimmer showcasing that region.

TGIF

Cheers!
February 15, 2008

Harley Stan
Happy Friday!!!
QOTD 1- yes, I have been trying new things pretty much since I joined the Vaynernation
QOTD 2- I don’t believe I have tried anything from NY state, I will add it to my list of wines to try.
February 15, 2008

TxBigD
The NY Finger Lakes are new on me and can’t remember ever having New York wine in TX. Thanks for expanding my Mind and my Pal, GV. I’ll start looking for it.
February 15, 2008

kaybee
QoTd
Never tried any NY wines before. Here in Cali I’m sure they would call that an import.
February 15, 2008

JonE
Your a noble warrior G-Man.

QOTD1:Washington state rieslings, now thats pushin’ it.

QOTD2: Lamoreaux Landing red blend. It was not good. No, not good. However I have some Hermann Weimer Riesling in the cave, aging out for a rainy day. 06’s are way too young from the Hermann-miester.
February 15, 2008

Darold
I am ashamed to say it…but the only wine I can remember having from NY was some Lake Niagara. It may have even come out of a box.
February 15, 2008

Palmer
QOTD #1: every day.
QOTD #2: can’t think of any I’ve ever had. if I ever saw one on a list in CA, I’d try for sure. will have to seek something out – maybe this Gewurtz.
February 15, 2008

Daniel
QOTD 1: Yes I have been trying new things and expanding my palette (my pal) since becoming part of the vayner nation.
QOTD 2: No, I have never had a NY State Wines, but I plan on trying some.
February 15, 2008

GoldensGirl
QOTD: I’m really enjoying trying different varietals. You’ve given me the confidence (and some knowledge) to do so.

QOTD 2: At winter break, as a Christmas present, my wonderful CKC son who goes to school in Ithaca brought home the Riesling you weren’t so keen on today. Not meh to me…Mmmm.
February 15, 2008

tost-y
just had the 2 wines side-by-side. have the riesling FIRST and it will blow you away. The gewurzt. is a touch sweeter and has a bit more acidity.
great show. i heart ny
February 15, 2008

Michel Dugas
I sadely never had a New york Finger lakes wine as I am from Quebec and our monopole don’t sell any. Next time I am on east coast I will

MD
February 15, 2008

Cal
QOTD: I think it was something on a wine tour at Bully Hill. The wine was horrible, but the entertainment at the tour was terrific. OK, sorry, I was a beer drinker back then, and my PAL wasnâ€™t trained to try new things. GV has changed my life!
February 15, 2008

Kristen
Thanks for taping all those eps for the Vaynernation GV. We appreciate it!

QOTD1: Of course, I get bored if I don’t. I’m currently having a 2005 Las Moras Bonarda (not my favorite, but surely drinkable) and I have a vinho verde waiting to be cracked open soon.

QOTD2: Nope, although my parents have and they liked it. But have you had any Wisconsin wine?
February 15, 2008

ChezJosh
Q1: Of course I am, Gary. Just the other day, I had a bulgarian wine that was quite delicious. It was a Mavrud, a simple table wine, and it was quite delicious.

Q2: I attended culinary school in the mid-hudson valley area, so I got to experience a number of those wines, most recently from Clinton Vineyards and Millbrook Winery. The Clinton were decent and the millbrook sweeter wines weren’t bad, but they all seem to exhibit what I’ll call the Hudson Valley terroir. Use your imagination.
February 15, 2008

Rhonda
I don’t think I have ever had a wine from NY state. Maybe I should put that on my list of things to do this year!
February 15, 2008

stevek1510
QOTD……Duckwalk Blueberry Port…….deeeeelicious
February 15, 2008

Stu
QOTD: I have not had any New York wines. I have been looking for the Pelligrini cab franc that you tasted on an earlier show, but no one has it.
February 15, 2008

Scott
QOTD: Never had a wine from NY. Can’t say that I’ve seen one before either. If I see this Gvertz I’ll give it a shot.
February 15, 2008

Tommy Vernieri
I feel like I’ve been doing alright at drinking different things, I haven’t really gotten into the rhythm of buying different things locally yet. I like to do more research if it’s something I’ve never heard of.

I can’t remember the last time NY wine. I think I’ve had a Dr. Frank at some point though. That Gewurtz sounds good though.

I watched the Bourgueil episode, you were so chill back then =).
February 15, 2008

matt h
QOTD- I have definitely been expanding my pal…chenin blanc and cabernet franc in just the past couple weeks.
February 15, 2008

Araldite
QOTD: a white from the North Salem Vineyard. I don’t remember which because it’s been a while.
February 15, 2008

KyleLikesTies
QoTD 1: Yes, I’ve been trying to expand my palate as much as I can; tried a few new whites, explored some malbecs, bought a couple petite sirahs that I’m looking forward to trying.

QoTD 2: I’ve *never* had NY wine, which is particularly embarrassing given that I lived in NY stater for 4 years :~x
February 15, 2008

Moselman
Many, many moons ago, holidaying from Ottawa to a State Parkin the Finger Lakes region. (Just how long ago â€“ well, I took my son in to Ithaca to see the premiere of Star Wars…). Anyway, we tried several NY wines, can’t remember any wineries except Dr. Frank previously mentioned rings a bell. May have been our first encounter with a Gewurz, and it was a revelation of sorts, not necessarily in positive way.

QOTD: Yes, the move West of the Rockies has made us much more receptive to trying different experiences, including wines.
February 15, 2008

Bob Sikorski
QOTD – We had a Jamesport wine a decade ago, and that was not its best. However, I have heard that LI wines including Jamesport are getting better. Perhaps it is time to try again.
February 15, 2008

BenF
I have been really expanding my pal by trying different things everywhere i go. I no longer go to standbys if i see something new and differnet i go for it…
February 15, 2008

Chris
Last NY wine I had was Shinn Estate Red, 75 Merlot, 25 Cab, from Long Island. I think its a nice red table wine at a fair price, and their vineyard uses sustainable farming methods.

I also like Lenz a lot for white, also Long Island
February 15, 2008

Grapedigger
Never tried a NY sate wine…they’re rarely available in Canada. Yes, I’ve been trying hard to expand may palate. Recently I tried wines made from unconventional grape varieties such as: Nebbiolo, Tannat, Albarino, Cab Franc, petite syrah, Verdejo, Vidal, etc…Cheers
February 15, 2008

Glenn
I have had a red and white from Finger Lakes in 2006 but can’t remember the winery. Neither one tripped my trigger though and I was so pumped up for them. I was on a business trip from San Diego to Virgina Beach and sought out a wine shop with the sole purpose of trying Finger Lake wine. I was so disappointed. They only had like 6 wines from that region and I swear most of the store was all Cali. I traveled 3000 miles to buy the same wines I have in my backyard. Have never seem one here in SoCal.
February 15, 2008

BobMac
QotD1: Absolutely! Never the same wine twice!
QotD2: Nope.
February 15, 2008

benny z
1st post – the finger lakes was the motivation being a cornell alum – love wine tasting there although i wasn’t into in college – now that i live in sonoma county, i’m all about it. really liked cali wines, then took a wine class and it greatly expanded my horizons across the pond. drinking some of that leocadie minervois – love it, loose tobacco – right on – i’m right with the whole southeast france wines, the bomb for under twenty bones nice work gary, and thanks – it’s great to have such elaborate discussion and honesty on these wines, makes choosing them easier.
February 15, 2008

BGreen
I’ve been trying all kinds of wines, its been great most of the time, with only a couple disasters (mainly because I went with the more inexpensive of the choices)but I’ve enjoyed some great argentinas, spanish, and my new fave court de rhones. I’m very limited on my choices in Oklahoma, plenty of Cali to go around, very lacking in european wines. Absolutely never a NY wine.
February 15, 2008

David K
Last NY wine I drank was a 1994 Weimer Dry Riesling that we had at Thanksgiving. I picked it up at the winery ages ago and must say that it is BY FAR the coolest winery to visit on Seneca Lake. Stay at the Geneva in which is just down the road from the winery. Anyway, if you think these wines are good, try some of thier desert wines. Kind of pricy at $40+/500ml but simply amazing stuff. They could rival some of the finest German wines.
February 15, 2008

TJB
1st QOTD:Very much so.Thanks to you!
2nd QOTD:Pindar Vinyards from Peconic, Long Island makes a blend called Pythagoras,very nice.
February 15, 2008

Stanvh
Gary,

I’m glad that you are trying some NY State wines. I have long felt that Long Island and the Finger Lakes (with a little bit of Hudson Valley) should be our East Coast Napa — a place that you can visit on a weekend and taste some wonderful wines. From the Finger Lakes region, besides Weimer, you should also try Vinifera Wine Cellars (originated by Konstantin Frank) wines, especially their Rkatsiteli (now there is a rare (in the USA) grape variety for you). Fox Run (although lately I’ve been a bit disappointed with them), Wagner, Red Newt Cellars have all had good offerings in the past. A special shout-out to Shalestone Vineyards (”Red is all we do.”). In a predominately white wine region, Rob Thomas has consistently made some excellent reds – Cabs, Merlot and blends thereof. Glenora is a prolific producer of “pretty good” to “excellent” wines. Lameroux Landing is another good producer. Well, I could go on and on about the Finger Lakes. Don’t get me started on North Fork, Long Island. — I’ll wait until you do a show on those wineries before I list my favorites there.

There are even some pretty good wineries in New Jersey. I will list my favorites there sometime.

RADOOL

Stan
February 15, 2008

Andrew
Gary,

To your question: lately I’ve been trying new wines as often as I can. Two weeks ago I had Cab Franc for the first time, and it blew my frickin’ mind, man. That’s the truth. Cheers to you.

-A
February 15, 2008

AmandaM
Both QOTD: I’ve been trying new stuff pretty much every time I visit the wine shop. It’s be totally awesome. The wine expo last weekend also was a huge eye opener, especially with the NY state wines. I hadn’t had many, but the ones I tried(Riesling and Gewurztraminer) knocked my socks off.
February 15, 2008

ramona
Love Finger Lakes wine, Thanks for reviewing the 2006 have not had them yet
QOTD; Actually was either one of Libby’s or MacGregors. I drink both regularly
February 15, 2008

Anthony L.
Never had a wine from New York. Something new to try this year.
February 15, 2008

wrc105
QOTD1: This past Tuesday, went out for my birthday dinner featuring the wines of Spain. Penedes (Cava) â€“ Juve Y Camps Vintage Reserva Brut, Rias Baixas â€“ Licia Albarino Valdeorras â€“ Guitian Godello Bizkaiko Txakolina â€“ Itsas Mendi Hondarrabi Zuri Somontano â€“ Bodega Pirineos Parraleta Alamansa â€“ Piqueuras alcanto Monastrell Rioja â€“ La Bastida Rioja Reserva and Jerez â€“ Emilio Hidalgo Pedro Ximenez Sherry with dessert.

QOTD2: Castel Grisch Riesling was the latest that I have opened and I have a ‘98 Cabernet port from Pindar vineyards that’s waiting to be opened.
February 15, 2008

steve
HEY GV trying to trust my pal trying new wines as often as i can afford great show as always
February 16, 2008

sev
QOTD1: Always trying new things! Numerous Torrontes, Malbec, Bonarda, a Tempranillo blend from Australia, table wine from Portugal, etc.

QOTD2: In all honesty, the last New York State wine I had was Long Island’s Corey Creek Vineyards Raspberry Dessert Wine. Not even sure if it is made from local fruit or not, but my girlfriend loves it. We had in with dessert on Valentine’s Day. But last week I tasted four wines from Paumanok, also from Long Island; Chardonnay, Festival Red (Cab Franc/merlot Blend), Cabernet Franc, and Cabernet Sauvignon.

Cool show, I am going to try to find a bottle of that Wiemer Gewurz!
February 16, 2008

Howie K
Ironically I had a 2006 Dry reisling Dr. Kontantin Frank with Japanese food (hibachi) today and am finishing it off while watching tv as I watched the episode for Friday.
February 16, 2008

nougat
Cool – we were up in the Finger Lakes in August. Visited Wiemer & picked up the 06 dry & semi dry rieslings. I recently had a Pellegrini Merlot (Long Island) and a Lakewood Cab Franc (Finger Lakes).
Still on NY wines – The Roman Roth wine you tasted the other day was a disappointment- I met him when he was at Sag Pond maybe 12 years ago and I thought he really had a chance to make something special happen. So far he’s been a little hit & miss. Anyway, the friggin guy is having fun.
February 16, 2008

nougat
Oh yeah – I had a PETIT VERDOT from Duck Walk on the South Fork!!!!!!!!
February 16, 2008

Chris D
Never had a NY state wine …. that I’m aware of and I’m in Florida..

Like the Sabers jersey ending though – is it just me or does the back ground out the window look fake / or painted ? just a thought
February 16, 2008

J Crazy
Expand the Palate Crusade (EPC) continues!!
Mos def I’ve been expanding the palate. And that doesn’t mean just wine (might want to mention this to the other vayniacs!). I’ve been trying different bourbons, sake, soju, fruits (had Dorian for the first time the other week), vegetables (ever had a purple sweet potato?), and all sorts of other ingestibles. Of course different wines for different days and cuz everyday is different we rock with myriad wines in my hizzy. Been trying wines from Tunisia and Greece lately.
February 16, 2008

Nickyb85
My goodness Gary, nice brief Friday show. Always a pleasure watching the thunder show.
QOTD1: Today I had a lovely afternoon away from the school and visited the three wineries in the Lubbock, Tx area. I tasted about 18 wines today, ranging from local grapes all the way to Italian imports. I never knew about the diversity of wines in my own area. I spent some time with a Merlot that was very exceptional from the Caprock winery. And purchased around 12 wines that were reasonable on a CKC budget.
With that said…
QOTD2: I have never had a NY wine.. though on my next trip to the shop I will keep my eyes open for one.
February 16, 2008

Andrew H.
I have been expanding my PAL tremendously. I have been trying to have a different wine varietal every week. Unfortunately I have not had an opportunity to try a New York state wine. Plan to seek one out.
February 16, 2008

John
Never had NY State wine
Dig the reviews
Not diggin’ the half tuck… but if you’re gonna stick with it, why not pop half your collar?
February 16, 2008

Nathan H
QOTD: never had one from the NYS
February 16, 2008

Dan C.
QOTD 1: Definitely been expanding the palate recently, been trying some different things here and there.

QOTD 2: Never had one, send me a few will ya? heh.

Thanks Gary.
February 16, 2008

Medo
Never hay a wine from New York..do they export that much? Anyway:
Yes, I tried different things during the last couple of shows: GewÃ¼rtztraminer Auslese for instance, or a Riesling from Tasmania!

When do you come back with some seroius German Wines? The last was in EP #379!
February 16, 2008

Susan
The last New York state wine I drank was Rooster Hill Finger Lakes Estate Semi Dry Riesling 2006.
February 16, 2008

Paul
QOTD-1 Yes I have tried some new wines.
QOTD-2 My Favorite… Gewerz and Riesling from Glenora Vineyards, Finger Lakes Region, Dundee, NY.
I make a trip to the finger Lakes every year and visit and taste a few different wineries, but alway’s come back with a couple from Glenora.
Gewerz and Riesling being my all time favorite wines, the rinsing really hurt with this show,LOL.
I will seek out Herman Weimer on my next visit, unless I find it before then.
Great show, could have watched an hour on different Finger Lakes Wines.
February 16, 2008

mjr
thanks gary
good show. i’m vegetarian so a good tip with the gewurtztraminer(?). now drinking a y1,000 grant burge chardonnay fron the local supermarket in nakano, tokyo. good for a thousand yen… that’s my show over.
love the show
keep em coming
jets have great colours & uniforms
good luck, ‘08
mjr
February 16, 2008

YoungDave
You’re DAMN RIGHT I’ve been trying new things! Most recently: a Cab Franc from Friuli, and next will be a Mencia from Bierzo.
February 16, 2008

Derek
I have been trying new wines Gary, the jurney has been great!!
February 16, 2008

half century
Qotd1; always trying new varieties, last being Touriga Franc (Carm Douro) on your rec.

qotd2; i think something brooklyn paul brought to an off line from Shinn Estate
February 16, 2008

Darrell
Dude you got it right on with the gewurtztraminer!!!! It is FAB!!!!! I would tell everyone they need to run up to Herman’s and get it now or of course go to your place and get it

I must say though you got it wrong with the Riesling….it is also FAB!!! as well….I love the wine from that region and Herman has got it down… People if you are not going up and buying that wine you will miss out on a jewl!!!!!!!! So get off you butt’s and go get it!!!!!!
February 16, 2008

Capt M
Nice, nice show, very interesting. QOTD2: Never had one
February 16, 2008

Ryan
The shows have all been good lately, great job!
And sorry, but Browns = Super Bowl 43 Champs!
February 16, 2008

Katherine
Way to crank out these shows, Gary and Mott! Maybe next time you have to do a series like this, you could change shirts between episodes to make it seem like days are passing.

QOTD: I recently had Pindar winery’s Pythagoras (from Long Island), a blend of Cabernet Sauvignon, Cabernet Franc, Merlot, Petit Verdot & Malbec. Yummy. I can’t recall having any other wines recently from NY State… I’ll have to search some out.
February 16, 2008

fatdoi
never had NY wines…… can’t see any in Oz anyway
February 16, 2008

Sassodoro
QOTD1. Always trying. I went to two wine tastings this week. One was given by an importer/distributor friend of mine and featured the wines of a producer from Oltrepo Pavese in Lombardia, Italy. The lineup included a white (!) Pinot Noir, and a wine made from a grape called Uva Rara. The other wine tasting this week was given by my local wine store and featured Alsatian whites and Spanish reds (mostly Rioja’s but also a wine from Alicante).

QOTD2. Probably my last New York wine was Lieb Cellars. I especially like their non-reserve Chardonnay. Their reserve Chardonnay has a bit more oak than I like.
February 16, 2008

Jim in Atlanta
QOTD – I try to attend two wine tastings a week. It is fun to try wines from around the world. In the past two years I have had wines from India, Morocco, Israel, Bulgaria, Lebanon, and the Czech Republic. Who knew they all made decent wines. I had a NY riesling last year and it was OK. It may be time to try another NY wine. Thanks for showing us the world of wine.
February 16, 2008

Johnny Utah
1980’s NWA Wrestling Rules! Here’s a few names to jog your memory…Ole and Arn Anderson, The Midnight Express with Jim Cornette (tennis racket in hand), Magnum TA, Tully Blanchard, Baby Doll…the list goes on and on!

Let me not forget to mention the two greatest wrestlers of any decade: The Nature Boy Rick Flair and The American Dream Dusty Rhodes.
February 16, 2008

Donna Marie
QOTD1: Always trying new things–thinking about trying Stones ginger wine from the UK. Am going back to varietals that I haven’t really enjoyed in the past and giving them another whirl.

QOTD2: Coincidentally, the Herman Weimer Semi-Dry Riesling to represent NY at our SuperBowl Party–paired well with the Citrus-Wings and Spicy Ribs. One of my favorite Finger-Lake producers. Also love a Reserve Riesling from Red Newt Cellars-can’t recall if that’s Finger Lakes or Hudson Valley region. You should try to bring in some of that, though it was 20 bones about 3-5 years ago. Well worth it to me. Yummmm…..
February 16, 2008

Courtney M
QOTD#1: I’m always trying new things. Looking for new things to try is part of the fun.

QOTD#2: Last New York wine I had was Bully Hill marechal foch. I live a few hours away from the Finger Lakes region and have been thinking of going down there sometime to see some vineyards when my Dad goes down for indie car races.
February 16, 2008

organicmexican
QOTD…Never had a wine from New York State. I cant seem to find them here in San Diego.
February 16, 2008

Matt
QOTD: Always trying to expand my pal, albeit slowly. Don’t think I have had any NY wines as of yet.
February 16, 2008

Fiorentina!
Hey Gary-
Well….I don’t know how many wine reps. in my area (southern CA) carry Non-CA dometic wines. It’s a shame, but I haven’t seen any around to buy, so…no…I’ve never had a wine from the finger lakes.
February 16, 2008

hinrgman
QOTD
Paumanok Wines
2003 Festival Red
February 16, 2008

ajnisen
Gary, I am a California boy (Bay Area). I don’t believe I have ever seen a NY wine here (or course I haven’t looked). The Gerwertztraminer sounded interesting. AJ
February 16, 2008

BoiseBob
Expanding my wine taste? Yes. I don’t particularly like “Ports”, but I have found one produced here in Idaho – yes, I know, Ida-Who? – by Vin du Bois winery. It is an awesome “port”. Maybe I’ll send you some so you can add Idaho to your Washington and Oregon scope.
February 16, 2008

Syrahhhhhhhhh
QOTD ! I have been REALLY trying new things lately. I was all happy in my Washington wine world, but I am exploring France, Spain, Argentina, Israel…all kinds of wine.

QOTD 2 alas, never has a NY wine.
February 16, 2008

Moonsshyne
QOTD: Never had NY wine. I might try the GewÃ¼rztraminer.
February 16, 2008

J Hartfiel
What up GV. I have been taking your advice and have not purchased the same bottle of wine for the last 6 months, hence continuingly trying new wines. I recently broke away from my fear of white wines, and am finding that they are just as good as reds.

QOTD: Have not tried any NY wines that I can recall.

Keep up the GREAT work. Love winelibrarytv!
February 16, 2008

Carilius Maximus
…during the holidays we(t.j.’s)had a late harvest Jackson-Triggs from this region. Lots of olive and olive oiliness to it. It was a trip. I did not think that people would get it, but they got it ALL!!…oh yeah and the 2005 Rocher Calon pretty darn good, and ten bones in Cali.
February 16, 2008

Robert
Gerurtz and the Rizzle are so sweet in Cali. It is nice to see someone does nice work on dry versions.
February 16, 2008

Dan M
Hey Gary
QOTD: In the last 4-5 months only once have i bought the same bottle of wine twice… also about a week ago i tried my first Argentinian Malbec!

Never had a NY wine… I’ll have a look for one but I doubt we get any down here in Australia
February 16, 2008

Raffi
QOTD- Last NYS wine I had was this nasty one that just tasted like bad strawberry twizzlers with extra sugar. I wish I remembered what it was because it was nasty.

Rieslings are probably my favorite new wine since watching WLTV. Looking forward to trying a Guwurtz.
February 16, 2008

Dan
QOTD 1: Yes thats what makes wine so fun.

QUTD 2: Pindar Long Island Cab Sauv. PINDAR is the man in New York.
February 16, 2008

B-727
What’s with the white wines with spicy Asian food all the time? Just drink a cold beer. Procrustes couldn’t make that wine-spicy food combo work.

“Raffi” said a New York wine tasted like “strawberry twizzlers”. I can’t have those anymore since I saw the movie Duce Bigelow.

QotD: Expanding wine horizons? Ha. It’s Lent. I’m Catholic. No wine for last 10 days. I get to prove how much I love God by making myself miserable. Go figure.
February 16, 2008

mhova23
Props to the finger lakes. Last Finger lake wine that I have had is Dr. Frank’s Gewurtz. One of my fav’s. Crisp and clean. As for new tastes, just tasted a Pinot Blac form Oregon. Interesting. Not at all what I would have expected but definitly something that I would try again.
February 16, 2008

HeadWino
QOTD: Oddly enough, it was a Wiemer Dry Riesling Reserve, excellent. I have preached to all that will listen. Go to the Finger Lakes, you will be very impressed how they have really upgraded their winery tasting rooms.
February 16, 2008

Dana
QOTD: riesling from Standing Stone a week or so ago. I grew up in the Finger Lakes and my parents still live there. So whenever we’re back in the old country, we stop at several Finger Lakes wineries. A couple of years ago, we started taking an annual long-weekend trip to the Finger Lakes with another couple.
February 16, 2008

Taylor
I have been expanding my Pal like crazy anytime i see something new i try it, pinotage, tannat, riberia de deuro, white bordeaux.
QOTD 02 Paumonak Can Franc!
February 16, 2008

miss r
i think the reason you havent received any comments is because you are so dam annoying, you try to be funny when you are not, either your funny or you are not, sorry my friend you are not funny,sorry
miss r
February 16, 2008

RANDI
YAY! Gary youre FINALLY incorporating some fashion on WLTV!

QOTD: I definitely try new wines…often…I have to start taking notes, because Im trying so many and my memory of what I like and dont like isnt very sharp. I decided to start buying more of the wines I like..immediately after discovering I like them.
QOTD2: Macari Syrah…from North Fork of Long Island..I would say….I’d score it a PASS!

Where are you? I may come for a visit to the WineLibrary…will you be there?
February 16, 2008

GrapeHead
GV Yes I’ve had some New York wines. Several from Long Island Pindar Cab and Peconic Merlot…….major pass on both! Both had a major Oak Monster thing going on.
February 16, 2008

John from Allentown
QOTD: Last NY State wine was a Dr Frank Chardonnay that was drinkable; a reasonable effort. Most NYS wines I have tasted are not in the “Wow” category.

QOTD part 1: Have been expanding my wine palate into lesser known Italian wines and South America, as well as just trying more French wine. So much wine, so little time.
February 16, 2008

Mia
QOTD: Glad I watched this episode…my husband is from upstate NY, near Seneca Lake…most of the wineries suck. Last wine I had was Hazlett Cab Franc, ok..nothing special. All the rieslings I’ve tried from NY, have been too sweet.
February 16, 2008

David L
Yeah yea, Since you asked. So far I have tried 131 different variels of wine. A friend of mine turned me on to http://www.winecentury.com/about.html where the goal is to try over 100 different types of wine. And yes, I kept going after 100, and still trying new things as often as possible. Vidal ice wine is the ONLY New York wine I have had, Have you tried Vidal yet??
February 16, 2008

Paul
Haven’t tried a New York wine in some time. Lately most of our drinking has been with wines from Australia and New Zealand. Will be looking for this Gewurztraminer, as it sounds like a winner. Of course GV, we are buying new wines and expanding our pal.
February 16, 2008

laurie in VT
1st QOTD: Yup. And it’s fun.
[B-727 needs to come on over to the Episcopal church for a different approach to Lent : ) ]

2cnd QOTD: I know I have had NY wine, but it was prior to my current state of awareness, so I have no memory of what, or even how, they were. Now I will be forced to seek them out and pay attention this time. Life is just so tough sometimes…
February 16, 2008

Bobinnati
Hmmmmm. Not sure I’ve ever had a wine from NY. On the other hand, I am trying very hard to expand my palate. I am making a valiant attempt to join De Long’s Century Club (for those who have tasted wine from 100 varietals). So far, I have tried wines from 24 different varietals, with my most recent being Lagrein, Corvina and Grignolino. I really enjoyed both the Lagrein and the Grignolino, though they are vastly different from one another. I have a Negroamaro, a Viognier and a Moscato lined up next. I think it will take me a year or so to get to 100, but I don’t mind. I would like to be able to try wines made from 100% of a single varietal, but that may be hard to do, so I am setting the bar at 70% while still attempting to find as many single varietals as I can.

Gary – in an attempt to help us become more diverse in our wine experience, how about offering six packs or cases of wine made from unusual varietals with let’s say FREE SHIPPING perhaps. I’m thinking one bottle each of six or twelve different, uncommon varietals that we could perhaps choose from a pool of such wines with no single wine more than 20 bones. How ’bout it GV?
February 16, 2008

Neil Sjoblom
There are now 105 wineries in the Finger Lakes wine region.
One of my favorite events is the Fox Run Vineyards Garlic Dinner.
check out some pictures of the event -
http://gallery.mac.com/neilsjoblom#100067&bgcolor=black&view=grid
February 16, 2008

Achilles Mike
The last New York wine I had was from my friend’s vineyard on the Hudson in Newberg. Kinda unremarkable. I have been trying all kinds of new wines lately including those from Douro region of Portugal and a Charbono from Calistoga, CA
Thanks Gary for opening my eyes and my pal tp the possibilities.
February 16, 2008

Brian Swanson
Last NY state wine I had was a 2001 Raphael Merlot. O-VER-RA-TED.
February 17, 2008

bob c
Hmmm. the last ny wine I had was a Cab Franc from bully hill winery.Nothing special, but since I am from the finger lakes region, I often try new ones, since the place I shop for wines has an isle dedicated to NY wines. As far as trying new wines, still working thru some of the bordeaux that I got from the sale over the holidays.
February 17, 2008

bendid
QOTD: Went to a tasting the other week and had an Aussie grown Verduzzo.. didn’t win me over but worth the effort.. shall continue to keep my eye out for other varieties I’m not familiar with
February 17, 2008

lynelle
I don’t think I have ever had a wine from New York. I will have to seek some out.
February 17, 2008

lynelle
Some recent wine varieties we have tried recently are Nero D Avola, a Viognier and a Valpolicella. Recently purchased are a TorrontÃ©s and a Chilean Pinot for later consumption. Sharing the thunder at ever opportunity!
February 17, 2008

Keith
Not tried, nor noticed any wines from NY at the places I shop. I’m new to wine so there are a lot I haven’t tried (but I’d say Riesling and Gewurtz are my top whites so far). My last new was Tempranillo from Spain…very different than the fruit bombs. I’ve heard it’s more old world, but I am enjoying it. I want to start trying some French wines, like Cote du Rhone and Beujolais.
February 17, 2008

NB_SPAZZ
QOTDs: I haven’t tried any NY wines. Maybe a field trip to the Finger Lakes would provide some incentive to do so.
But I slowly have been checking out wines from Italy’s Piedmont region and some from Spain. Yesterday we tried Altos De Luzon Jumilla 2004. I liked this Monastrell (aka Mourvedre) based wine better than the 100% Tempranillos I had recently, though not sure why… My Pal’s not the best at putting its experiences into words (haven’t re-enacted episode 148 yet)
February 17, 2008

Joel M
Finally a little respect for some NY wines, even though only one scored well in today’s show. Kudos GV. Try some Hudson Valley wines soon. Latest NY wine for me was from there. Millbrook Cab Franc. Not bad stuff.
February 17, 2008

KVolk
GV you got a mention on Robert Scobles Blog on Saturday as he was touring the Revision3 studios….He’s spreading the Thunder and doesn’t even know it.
February 17, 2008

PK
watched a bunch of stuff from the archives, after viewing all of this past week’s stuff. yer killin’ me here, cuz i’ve had the flu all week, my pal has abandoned me, and sniffy-sniff not working. gewurz made my mouth water, but i know if i were to drink some, it would taste like thera-flu and cough drops.
February 17, 2008

Shawn
I have never tried a wine from NY state. I live in Denmark and the only American wines that get over here are typically from California. Big Mondavi fan though.
February 17, 2008

JC
A very good LBF show. QOTD: 1) Not expanding my pallet at the present due to a boom in business this year, but have a few in the cellar I bought last year I never tried before and will be getting to this year, hopefully. 2) A long time ago, I think
February 17, 2008

E
Never had, but just the other week I was gifted a Dr Frank riesling by sympathetic friends, so that I might fix this.
February 17, 2008

Sarah
The most recent NY wine I have had was an 02 Dr. Frank dry Riesling. It held up pretty well although I prefer NY Rieslings in their youth. The 02 had the classic petrol nose and there was still a hint of minerality that I get from Dr. Frank wines, but the fruit was all gone.

Thanks, Gary for giving props to Riesling. Too many people overlook the grape because of prior misconceptions often rooted in sugary Blue Nun swill.
February 17, 2008

Panosh
Not much NY wine makes it to Hawaii or any that I know of.

Great show and thanks for sticking in there.
February 17, 2008

BW
QOTD : tried a new Ribera del duero last week – Tinto Pesquera – that was tasty ! Also have a new Gruner & Argentinian Torrontes on the way from WL.

QOTD2: Don’t think I have even seen a NY wine in CO, let alone tasted one
February 17, 2008

Rob P
I believe I had a pinot noir from dr frank that was pretty good. Part of expandng my pallett along with trying lots of wines from spain, italy, and chile.
February 17, 2008

Obama_Man
QOTD: I’m working on my palate hard! I’ve also tasted bubble gum in two reds I’ve had lately. Weird?
February 17, 2008

Sayle M.
Gary,

Loved this episode. Most peeps don’t know our back yard has some great wines. And, I did it…I linked you up…I have had a blog for a while and I write now and then but watching you now everyday I have turned the corner from the lurker to the full fledged vayniac. Damn. I never thought it would come to this. So, right on, Mr. GV. I am beholden to the power of the grape and your irreverent approach (and nose) to it.
http://wwwsayle.blogspot.com/
February 17, 2008

winelynn
Hi GV, Great show! I love New York State wines and was thrilled to see some on your show. The last NYS wine I recently tasted was Thirty Mile Point Crackling Sweet Catawba from Schulze Vineyards.
February 17, 2008

Ali
Just got back from The Brotherhood Winery and Warwick Valley Winery yesterday. I gotta say – my favorite dry reisling is the 2005 vintage from The Brotherhood. I bought the 2006 recently and didn’t enjoy it as much so when I was there yesterday and found 11 bottles of the ‘05, I bought them all.

Warwick Valley had a great Black Dirt Red this past year but unfortunately, they sold out. They should have their next batch available in April.

I dig the NY State wineries because they are close to Hoboken and offer some pretty good wines for those of us who can’t stomach another glass of Yellow Tail but are looking for affordable wines to drink on a regular basis. I’m surprised more restaurants in Hoboken don’t serve NY wines. I did have a glass of Alba Wineries (NJ/PA border) raspberry dessert wine at Amanda’s last night which was good. I hope to see more East Coast wines on lists in the area.
February 17, 2008

Joseph Levine
Gary,
I have posted here once or twice, but I tend to be one of te lurkers you are shouting about. Anyway, I decided to come out from behind the curtains for a little bit today. To start, this was a great episode, but I have to correct you on two things. First, I think that Long Island has been consistently been putting out nice wines for some time now [BTW, I am glad you commented on the Cab Francs, because it is a wine one hears little about as a stand-alone, but the LI wineries are putting out some nice ones--I used to think of them as the poor man's Cab, but the prices are rising. Second, NY is the home to the Jets, but they are, more specifically, based down here on, you guessed it, Long Island. They are not anywhere near theFinger Lakes. So how about some more LI wine tasting.
Now I just to comment on a couple of old shows [I can't watch everuday, so I'm trying to get intermittent new episodes and catch up on your shows starting at the beginning]. The episode with your nephew was great. Besides the wine aspects, I love the relationships in your family, and as a Boston U grad [undergrad and med school], I liked hearing that AJ is currently a student there. I also like when you try to look and the lower priced wines. I would suggest you try the Concha y Toro [Xplorador level] Cabernet and Malbec. I have particularly liked the Cab at that price level, but I haven’t been able to find it for a while.
QOTD 1=I have been working on expanding my palatefrom the time I started tasting wine. Except for a few wines I might get for house wine type drinking in case I have guests or just want something basic, I don’t have the time, budget, or experience to keep having the same wine over and over.
QOTD 2=An Osprey Dominion spiced wine. Not my favorite, but it had been on my small rack a couple of years [most of my wines last a couple of months, an I think this had passed its prime, but I hadn't had the opportunity to drink it for a while and I couldn't throw it away], and you asked for our ‘last’ NYS wine.
Joe
February 17, 2008

BrianS
QOTD: God, have I ever. This year I’ve jumped into Spanish wines with Rioja’s, Alberino’s. I’ve also tried several white Bordeaux’s that I never would have tried a year ago. I just had my first Granache, a Sancere, and am getting ready to try a Chianti classico (after having tried a jug wine chianti years ago and vowing to never touch it again).

Thanks, Gary.
February 17, 2008

Keith L
Never had a NY State wine, even though I have expanded my pal since I have been watching this show
February 17, 2008

Diana L-S
Great to see wine’s highlighted from New York state. I was in the finger lakes region 2 years ago for a vacation and didn’t realize they had such a variety of wines coming from there.

Definitely going to try to get one of those bottles to have with the next dinner with friends.

We’re definitely trying new wines since watching WLTV!
February 18, 2008

jason carey
weimer 2005 dry riesling.. was very good
also the late harvest. the cheapo Beddel cellars red from Long island is good
February 18, 2008

Isaac
I like late harvest rieslings but with low alcohol %-tage
February 18, 2008

Kevin Carpenter
Good job on this episode. I gave my local (Crafton, PA) state store ‘Wine and spirits’ a call to ask if I could find either of these selections. Of course I was almost naive to think I might be able to.
February 18, 2008

JerseyGirl turned CNY vayniac
Gary, you’re awesome for showing NY wines! You can’t go wrong with NY riesling or gewurz, esp from Wiemer! Thanks!

QOTD:
Question #1:Yes, I’ve been trying to try new things! On Valentine’s day we went out to dinner and I tried a Ripasso, and LOVED it. it was a great recommendation from our waiter and I’ll definitely try another when I see one.
Question #2: The last NY state wine I had was yesterday (I live here, so most of the wine I have is NY). My bf and I had a lovely bottle of Seneca Shores Royal Red, which was delish!

Great show today gary! Way to show some NY love!
February 18, 2008

SaraMHCRU
expanding palate, yes. never had a ny state wine. i’ll have to find some.
February 18, 2008

italianwinelover
QOTD: YES! That is my goal this year to expand my pal!!
Tasted a wonderful Merlot/Cab Franc the other night believe it or not and I’m not a big Merlot fan at all! Also an Albarino and a dry Reisling from Isreal. At least it was Kosher!!

Last wine I had from NY was an Eiswein Wine from Nigara Falls area – long time ago though haven’t ventured in that territory in awhile.

Liked the shirt all the way tucked in…half and half makes you look like you don’t give a damn….old fashioned I guess!!
February 18, 2008

MikeH
Last NYS wine: 2004 Lieb Family Cellars Reserve Cab Franc…..very nice…a little bit of the barnyard…..mmmmmmm!
February 18, 2008

Brent Marshall
I have NEVER had a NY wine! This edpisode might be a decent place to start but I don’t drink a ton of white at this time of the year (and being from Seattle, have a lot of choices locally).
February 18, 2008

Tom G. of the CKC
I’ve been expanding my pallet as much as I can. I’m heading like 40 miles this weekend to try a Cote Rotie as part of a tasting just because I’ve wanted to try one for so long and I’ve not been able to (a true Cote Rotie, not an Australian Shiraz/Viognier blend). I’ve also tried Bonarda, Semillion, and Barbera d’Asti recently.
February 18, 2008

DARREL LAS VEGAS
NY wines hard to find in VEGAS!
February 18, 2008

Larry
There is nothing wrong with a pre-emptive rinsy rinse. And yews I have been trying wines that were normally outside my box.
February 18, 2008

wedding-engagement-rings-jewelry
I always would prefer Californian taste of wine
February 18, 2008

Sloop
Have you tried Blue Newt Wine from the Red Newt Cellars? It’s interesting on the nose, sweet and simple. I drank it when I was in Schenectady, NY. Here’s a link to purchase it: http://tinyurl.com/28alzx Their main site is http://rednewt.com/web/

Enjoy. Keep up the good episodes!
February 18, 2008

NADINE
Hi Gary,

You probably noticed that I haven’t been leaving comments as much but my grandmother recently passed away so I had to see to that. I haven’t had any New York wines as I am not from N.Y. but next time I will check for some at the S.A.Q., I am not sure we have them in Montreal but it’s good that you brought to our attention wines that go well with thai and or spicy food as our generation seems to be into that these days, keep it up !
February 18, 2008

Kristen
QOTD #1: Yes I have been making a weekly effort to expand my palate. I tried a Sicilian white last night- blend of Insolia and Chard. I have been tring to get a little more info on Insolia (sometimes spelled Inzolia) but haven’t had much luck. Any info from you?

QOTD #2: I visited several Finger Lakes wineries on our annual NC reunion trip in 2003. I had a wine that was a life changer (maybe a little delayed) Dr. Konstantin Frank’s Rkatsiteli. It was like lemon meets strawberry starburst explosion with a finish that seriously lasted >5 minutes! Alas,
I haven’t had a NY state wine since that experience, gotta break that streak!
February 18, 2008

CindyW
QOTD: Always expanding and trying new things! In fact, this weekend we had a Georgian wine for the very first time. Quite good — N.V. Kindzmarauli JSC Alazanis Valley Kindzmarauli.
February 18, 2008

CindyW
QOTD#2: I don’t think I’ve ever had a NY wine. I’d love to try one and have been keeping my eyes open for Finger Lake area wines, but so far no luck out here on the west coast.
February 18, 2008

Scottie P
I’ve expanded my pallette lately by trying my first Alsace Gewurtz. It was pretty good! I am planning on trying more.

QOTD: I had a Dolce Bianco from a NY Finger Lake Winery and it was really good; Nice pinapple undertones!
February 18, 2008

Christian
Don’t remember ever having any wines from New York State.
February 18, 2008

wayno da wino
QOTD1: Ya got me explorin’ da Old World Wines of France (Bordeaux,
Burgundy, Provence, Languedoc, etc.) again.

QOTD2: Had one, maybe two, NY wines about a Gazillion (+/- a decade)
years ago……….Dat Gewurtz sounded pretty good…………..
February 18, 2008

Justin Thorp
Great episode!!!

QOTD 2: I love Casa Larga Vineyards Wine. They had an ice wine that’d blow your mind. I went to school at the Rochester Institute of Technology and they were down the road.
February 18, 2008

RB
GV,
We have a cottage in Western NY around Chautauqua Lake. I have always wanted to try a good wine from the region, but did not know which one to try. I now know I have to try the Gewurz. Thanks!
February 18, 2008

Jeff m
Yes, I’m on a mission to expand my pallet. Thank you Gary for often pointing out wines I’ve never heard from. I recently went on a white wine kick. I started out just wanting to drink something lighter, but after awhile I had a hard time going back to reds. On this same note, I was very surprised to see how many people hadn’t tried Pinot Noirs a few episodes back. I would’ve thought that would be in regular heavy rotation for almost everyone. Especially if you live in Washington or California.
February 18, 2008

Hooplect
Hey Gary, lay off the Mottman! As someone who shares that last name, I can confirm that we’ve heard “hey applesauce” more times than you’ve done shows.
February 18, 2008

pawncop
Good show,

QOTD have never had a NY wine.
February 18, 2008

davidB
qotd: never had a ny wine
February 19, 2008

NickP
Gary,

Since you said no matter how long after the episode you read the posts, I’ll leave this one. I’ve had a number of NYS wines, going back as far as 1980. Have had Dr. Frank’s wines, Heron Hill – good whites, Bully Hill and others. Most recently I drank a Cab Franc from Anthony Road Winery in NYS. I had bought it at the Union Square Farmers Market in NYC several months ago, but popped it after watching your WLTV episode on CFs. Even from NYS, that CF had all the characteristics you talked about. NYS has come a long way since 1980 and is worth checking out.

Nick
February 19, 2008

Blake
QOTD: Sorry GV, never had a NY wine, though I have had some Northern PA wines, erie area. Nothing that has ever wowed me, but decent.
February 19, 2008

Colin
GV – Just got back from the Fingers so I’ve just had a bunch! Juliana and I go every year – and the whites are getting better, slowly. The reds still have a long way to go – but I was actually surprised by some Cab Franc this year (and haven’t in the past). Concentrated on Seneca Lake this year – with the standouts being Standing Stone, Red Newt and Atwater. Ice Wines were good as well.
February 19, 2008

Alice
Channing Daughters’ Cuvee Tropical is one of my favorite summer whites, especially with any spicy food.
February 19, 2008

Alice
Feel like I have to do Long Island a bigger shout out as most of the comments are about the Finger Lakes. Besides Channing Daughters, Wolffer and Duck Walk have some decent wines in the Hamptons.

It may be a hipster ploy, but Brooklyn also just got Winery in Greenpoint. Haven’t had the wines yet, but I’ve seen them in the stores already.
http://www.brooklynoenology.com/
February 19, 2008

RieslingRon
Hi Gary,

Great to see wines from the Finger Lakes area. I live just south of there.

QOTD: the last wines I had from the FL were Treleaven (Kings Point) Rieslings, both the dry and semi-dry.
February 19, 2008

RieslingRon
Correction: the rieslings I had were from Kings Ferry Winery, not Kings Point.

Sorry about that.
February 19, 2008

JuneR
I really enjoy Dr. Konstantin Frank’s Rkatsitelli. Burst of flavor in the mouth! We visit relatives every few years in Finger Lakes. Atwater Estate doing a decent dry red blend.
February 19, 2008

chris the greek
Never had a NY state wine but with my Grandpa being a New Yorker the next time i am over, will seek some out. Finding one will be kinda hard over here in the UK.
It is his fault i am a massive Jets and Yankees fan. Watch the Brick become the best LT in the NFL and Joba, Hughes, Kennedy and Wang will hurl us to the world series.
Gotta love MLB.com live streaming baseball, it’s the reason i get no sleep whilst the season is on.

chris the greek
February 19, 2008

Wine Not?
Expanding the palate…..well, I tried a pinot noir that was, well, blanc! True enough, I was at a tasting this weekend where they were pouring a white pinot noir from Germany….very interesting…

QOTD: Funny you should ask! I just got back from a weekend in NYC (I yelled a “hello” in the westerly direction to you, Gary…did you hear me?)and visited Vintage New York in Soho and tasted TONS of New York wines! I’d recommend this place to anyone…they treat you very well there! I personally enjoyed the Long Island wines more, but my friend really grooved on the Finger Lakes offerings. In any case, we both LOVED the blueberry port that we finished with….Finger Lakes, I think????
February 20, 2008

GR8wine
QOTD: can’t quite remember though I’ve had quite a few from NY. I do recall Finger Lakes and Niagra (Buffalo) regions leaving a positive impression for Reislings and icewines.
Yea, I tasted your Christmas pack with Mom in front of your video and she complained about you “wasting” wine. I defended you because personally, I rinse glasses out with wine instead of water. I’m a huge fan of exploring and love the Gewurz; thanks for tasting one. Interesting to hear you rave about it next to a Reisling when you’ve always been such a fan of the latter. Guess it’s all about quality. You need one of those blinking red lights like the Hollywood soundstages to avoid interruptions. On the other hand you strike me as one of those “open door” guys who wants to stay in touch with the workforce.
Nice ep as always.
February 20, 2008

DJB
I don’t know if I have ever had a wine from New York State. Living in Washington state gives me so many opportunities for great wine from the West Coast. I have had the pleasure of visiting wineries in Washington and Oregon, at these wineries I have had some Lemberger’s, Dolcetto’s, and many other little known (to me) grapes. I say this to answer the first question of the day. I tell you, the Lemberger was very different, and I don’t feel the need to seek it out again.

Thanks for all you do for us Vayniacs Gary.

DJB
February 20, 2008

Pardus
QOTD:The last NY wines I had were actually Herman Wiemer Rieslings. I had them at a wine festival in Ocean City, MD. This was probably 10 years ago. At the time I thought that they were the best Riesling wines I had ever tasted.
February 21, 2008

OmarG
Great show thanks!

OmarG
February 21, 2008

tarheel17
I have never had a NY wine. We don’t get them here in WA….

But I’d love to try some riesling!
February 21, 2008

CHATrBox
I’m definitely stoked for all the new things in 2008. I’ll be hitting Oregon pretty hard, the Finger Lakes, Italy, Argentina, and France.

The last New York State wine I had was last June at Vintage New York Wine Bar. I tried several Cab Francs (my fav) and was very impressed. There was one that stood out, but not enough for me to remember the name…obviously!
February 21, 2008

Carly
QOTD: I haven’t had a NY wine, ever. But I am totally into Gewurtztraminer and I can’t wait to see if I can find the Herman Weimer in my area (please, PA, don’t disappoint me again!!!).
February 21, 2008

yowens
Hey GV- We’ve had those two before and we’re impressed. I think we may have a couple left still. QOTD: Standing stone reisling
February 21, 2008

Darryl BRown
Hey GV. Have you tried a Gewurzt cross called Traminette. I think they are growing it in the Finger Lakes. I’m a grower in Nova Scotia’s Annapolis Valley (Bay of Fundy tides to keep the babies warm) and want to try some here.

Cheers
February 21, 2008

Keith Brown
QOTD: Don’t get NY State wines here in Texas, not that I’ve found anyway. Last one(s) I had were a selection from Baldwin Winery, right around the corner practically from my brother’s place. They had some really delicious desert wines, but also some more mainstream varietals. This was before I was a Vayniac, and the relatives are not big wine drinkers, but I wish I had tried their Cab Franc. I’ve got their URL, so I’m planning on mail ordering some soon.
February 23, 2008

Brian Johnson
GV,
Great episode. Love how you adapt to real life in the show (associate asking about wines for the dinner). Most people would cut and start over to make it perfect, but you make it feel more real and down to earth.
1st QOTD: Definetely trying new things. Buying wines I would never have given a second look to and also buying wines I like (Sauv Blanc, Gewurz) but not from the popular regions where they are famous and that I tend to buy from.
2nd QOTD: Sadly, I’ve never had any wine from New York State before. Didn’t really get into wine until I moved to Hawaii and can’t get it out here.
February 23, 2008

sqrm
ok G.

1: in the last couple of days i hva tried: german blancs, rouges and fizzies. i have also tried a couple of red bourgundies, som dark and intense merlots from the south america. what have this done to me? expanded my palet.

2: i work at a winebar, and today i had canadian guests. the woman said: i want a dry white wine, i must not be sweet, like those german rieslings. so i pour her a german riesling and she tastes it, she likes it and asks what it is. its a german riesling i say. and i add: you should not preconcive(sp?), to my luck she manages not to burst her ‘taste’ in my face, but it was close.

3: the split shirt style is old, even old mc sqrm from norway have been doing that for ages.

4: i have not had a new york state wine. ship to denmark, and i will.
February 23, 2008

tuscanbob
Yes! Great show on our best winemaker here in the Finger Lakes! The entire FL wine industry has much to thank Herm Weimer for.

The most recent FL wine I’ve popped was a 2006 Standing Stone Riesling…my tasting notes: Apple and herbs on the nose. Nice mouthfeel, light to medium bodied. Decent acidity. A little burnt match-phosporus taste on the finish. Up there with some of the better rieslings I’ve tasted from around the Finger Lakes. Scored it 86.
February 24, 2008

wannaBconnoisseur
Q’s- Always trying new things. Never had an NY wine.
February 25, 2008

Rolf Lydecker
I do expand my palette whenever possible, I jump around from country to country, but I’m spending a lot of time with Italy, France, and Argentina. As far as a NY wine, I think I’ve had one but I can’t remember what is was. So let’s pretend I haven’t had one and you just helped me discover a new region…”Wow, thanks Gary!”
February 26, 2008

Cuse Wino
QOTD- I try and expand my “pal” every chance I get
QOTD2-Probably Dr. Frank wines
February 28, 2008

Josh in Burgundy
QOTD 1: I am tasting every French wine I can possibly get my hands on from Jura to Quarte de Chaume and therefore massively expanding my new world raised palate.

QOTD: Haven’t had an east coast/New York wine in a while sorry boss.
February 28, 2008

Von P
We do a Finger Lakes tour every year in Oct.(anniversary)Usually Seneca but I drink alot of white goat from my local “state store” ya gotta hate the laws in PA!!! Many very good wines from the FL region and just a blast to “hop” the wineries.
February 28, 2008

Andrew
Hey Gary good show.

QOTD (1): of course!! Had some Korean wine recently and last night cracked into my first Nero D’Avola.

QOTD (2): … never … not that many around Hong Kong, but am keeping my eyes open for some more interesting US options.

Cheers
Andrew
February 29, 2008

Dan-o
I have already typed this once, but here it goes…..

Rinsing out wine glasses with the wine you are about to taste – I am down with what you are doing – any knowledgeable wine taster would not give you crap for it.

QOTD 1 – A Greek blend of Cab Sauv and Aghortiko (sic) – decent but gave me a headache.

QOTD 2 – A NY Ice Wine (forgot the name) that was delicious.
March 18, 2008

MtnCharlie
Oh, I was so hoping the Riesling was going to rock, but I’d go for the Gewurztraminer. Love dry Gewurzt.

QOTD1: Yes, Vermentino last weekend and always on the look out for something different.

QOTD2: No, unfortunately not.
May 19, 2008

CBone
Yeah NY State! When I went home to Buffalo recently, I bought both of these wines for my always expanding (costly hobby…oh well) wine cellar in my apartment storage unit in the basement of my building in Washington, DC. NY wines are tough to come by here. I haven’t tried either one yet, though I am looking forward to them.

The last NY wine I had was a Riesling from…I can’t remember the name of the winery. It was pretty good, too. I had it with a fresh ham I made for my friends on Easter.

Great show, Gary.
June 29, 2008

Jim Ford
I met Hermann in the early 70’s when he and I (and my wife) lived in Corning. I picked Riesling grapes with him in his vineyards in the fall of 74 or 75. He was passionate about his vineyards and wine then as I am sure he is now. I developed a case study in business school based upon his winery. I attempted to show what kind of investment was required to develop a successful wine business. I hope he benefitted from it. If you have a chance, give him my best regards.

Jim Ford
September 19, 2008

dru
big ups to the finger lakes. if you’re looking to tour the area i’d recommend driving in a bigass circle around seneca lake. specifically, prejean and lamoreaux landing. also, stop in my hometown of geneva and eat at Parkers. probably the best buffalo wings in the world.
November 22, 2008

carolyn
This is a wonderful winery in the Finger Lakes and I was thrilled to see it on your picks for the best for Thanksgiving. There are a few real gems in this area and its great to see them get some attention!
Carolyn
January 7, 2009

Dessert Wine Nerd
Gary youre going to hate me. No, its ok…. you cant rant on me, I deserve it……QOTD’s I have not been trying many new wines lately and have never had a NY wine. Im still young in my wine drinking!!!!! ( hey its the only excuse I can give! )
November 12, 2009

GavinF
QOTD 1: I’ve been working on expanding my palate, as far as my budget allows anyway. I found an Argentinian Malbec the other day for $9AUD. Very different from anything I had tasted. I’ve also been trying to eat lots of things I normally wouldn’t.

QOTD 2: I’ve never had a wine from New York state, as I’ve never found one here in Australia, but hopefully I’ll be travelling in the US in the next few years, so I’ll definitely have one then, if not sooner.