Psssst, I Got A Secret – Episode #410

February 18, 2008

Gary Vaynerchuk tells you about an area that’s producing some of the most interesting wines in the world.

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Wines tasted in this episode:

2005 Langoureau St Aubin 1er Cru En RemillySt. Aubin Blanc
2005 Vincent Girardin Murgers Des Dents De Chien St AubinSt. Aubin Blanc
2005 Hubert Lamy St. Aubin Clos ChatenniereSt. Aubin Blanc

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February 18, 2008

KVolk
QOTD: only way I am getting to try these wines is if I but them from you Gary….which may happen.
February 18, 2008

MW_DM,IA
QOTD: Adding St. Aubin to the regional watch list. Something tells me this is going to be an expensive year for me. From the sounds of it, though, it’ll be worth the monies.
February 18, 2008

Mike Z in SD
Had a St. Aubin a few years back with a friend, Charlie, who is in the wine biz (and certainly in ‘the know’ for this region). I recall that it was very good, but I honestly don’t think I appreciated it at the time; I was much less experienced.
February 18, 2008

Dave Canada
Wow….can honestly say I have never heard of this region. Did a quick search up here and we have a few….will check it out! Thanks
February 18, 2008

conscious
First time commenter, long time lurker. Great show as always, but hopefully you can rectify the wardrobe malfunction before you get a bunch of bad PR. To be clear, I don’t mean to hate, rather just play. I really enjoy the show and my kids are drawn to it like a moths to a flame. You know the 30% you lose in the first few minutes, I’m sure they aren’t kids. Maybe that’s your true demographic – you should taste gummy bears and compare it to Riesling you had last year.
QOTD – Price points are holding me back from a lot of white burgs. While I find whites much more aromatically appealing, I have tasted a only scant few that I would trade a kidney for – more often with reds and stickies. Recently our Signature Liquor Store in Vancouver had a huge burg tasting (some premier cru but mostly borgogne and village) and I was completely unimpressed from a qpr point of view. Guess I have to seek out some of the lesser known areas or varietals. Keep up the good work!!
February 18, 2008

Harley Stan
Great show today, way to start the week.
QOTD- I have not tried one yet, I will add it to me ever growing list of wines to try.
February 18, 2008

MN George
Gary, what is with the itching? I have to say it reduces the appeal of the wines when the taster appears to have poison ivy…
February 18, 2008

JoshL
Yo GV, awesome show~ great information~ sorry haven’t left a comment in over a week…been in lurker mode due to the day job getting pretty busy. God…imagine if I were married and had kids? Given that I just got out of a relationship and I’d want to date a girl for about two years before the proposal, and 1 year engagement period…I’d say you can expect about 3 more years of consistent comments from me =P
QOTD: Exactly! Man, looks like Hubert Lamy is sold out at your store already! Maybe I should pick up a bottle of Vincent Girardin this weekend. I think there’s a St. Aubin island or something in Jersey though…is that right?
February 18, 2008

Chateau_Plonk
Great Show! Last year when I figured out who Saint Aubins neibors are I started seeking them out. In fact, the 05 Girardin was the first one I had. It’s definitly some serious chard!
February 18, 2008

chenrys
Enjoyed the show…your enthusiasm is wonderful.

QOTD: 1) We keep trying Chardonnay and don’t love it…don’t even like it. These wines are different, I know.
2) They are out of our budget range.
February 18, 2008

Joshua E.
I’ve never had a wine from that area. Money’s the only thing holding me back right now.
February 18, 2008

FJDR
Gary Vaynerchuk – “the greatest fish and wine drinking human on the planet.” Been drinking that fish again, eh?

QOTD: same as some of the other commenters – the price and availability locally.
February 18, 2008

ChezJosh
Honestly, I just am not a big fan of the oaky whites. Though my experiences with the big white burgs have been minimal, it just doesn’t seem to be a preference of mine. Maybe I’ll give them another chance with these, though
February 18, 2008

LarryTheWineGuy
On Second Thought Taste This Lamay against $45 A Bottle Chalk Hill Or $53.00 Over Oaked Far Niente Chard Or Cakebread or Grgich Hills or Plumpjack and all the fake Overrated overpriced Cali Chards and then see if 47 bones sounds like alot compared to an $80 bottle of Puligny Montrachet
February 18, 2008

KenP
Wonderful ep.
February 18, 2008

LarryTheWineGuy
I think the Pricing Issues that are posted on the Comments here are unjustified. Yes these wines are expensive…but not when you compare them with a Puligny Montrachet or Chassagne or Corton Charlamagne…it’s like half the price. GV I have had the 2005 Hubert Lamay…and not only was a 2005 Burgundy White Or Red a Fantastic Vintage like Willamette Valley Oregon sharing the 45th degree Parallel with Burgundy France…but maybe it was the atmosphere when you had the 2001 Lamay because to me the 05 and My PAL says this is MONEY . Applewood Smoked Bacon, Beautiful Balance…nothing California could ever produce nor sadly Washington State….This is White Burgundy in a little hidden spot at it’s Finest…at Upper End California Fake ,Over Oaked Fruit Bomb Chardonnay Prices. Great Show GV..All Vayniacs should Seek out this Lamay!!!
February 18, 2008

Robin C
QOTD: in a word: freeshipping. You could select a different state every week to get free shipping and start with New Mexico.
Apple dumplings are even better than baked apples.
February 18, 2008

Lawrence Leichtman
Haven’t tried one but just ordered 3 bottles based on that great review. Sounds better than the $60 Ramey my wife makes me buy.
February 18, 2008

jason
great way to start out the week. love the bourgogne blanc.

QOTD. i have my little stash of white burgundy downstairs. the last few i have had has been a little to stoney for me and i wanted a little more fruit. i consider myself a rock licker but… anyhow, i have had whines from giradin, but mostly reds and they have been OK. he is a negotiant that has been on the way up. last year, had a 1999 lamy, st. aubin and it was great. it was the wine that started me on white burgs. yum. anyhow, what is stopping me is that i live in switzerland and they make boat loads of white, so they do a good job keeping a lot of other’s wine out.
ps, 2005 is a great year, and you tapped it for a sec. all of the burg guys pan the 05 whites and say that it was too hot for the whites and that 04 and 06 will bring more to the table with the tension.
February 18, 2008

Sharon
Hey, if the shirt’s bugging you that much, take it off. Take it all off. With Noxzema Medicated shaving cream!
Er, I’ll look out for St. Aubin white burgandy/chard ! Esp. that middle one!
February 18, 2008

AVP
I’ve had some St. Aubin and a few years back, I bought my mother a nice bottle of St. Aubin for Mother’s Day. Well she got mixed up with bottles and used it in a pasta sauce (fortunately not entirely, so that she did get to taste it and loved it ).. And the sauce came up delicious.
February 18, 2008

KyleLikesTies
I have to agree with NB_SPAZZ: I don’t have that kind of budget. I’d rather have good wine with dinner nightly than great wine once or twice a week.
February 18, 2008

NB_SPAZZ
QOTD: Not ready for $30-$50 St Aubins yet. Spending the wine budget on sampling a wider spectrum of under $20s first, in order to “calibrate the pal”. Actually, looking to assemble a trio of chards to sample – 1 unoaked (4 Vines Naked?), 1 butter bandit + oak monster victim, and one with the oak in balance.
February 18, 2008

J Hartfiel
Good evening Mr. GV. Thanks for another remember-able epsd of WLTV. Have not had any wine from St. Aubin. I have mentioned in the past that I am starting to get into whites more and more, but still have not had a Chard that my pal has agreed with. Have to wait this one out, but am looking forward to trying others like Torrontes. You made big claims that it was going to be a big upcoming wine…

Thanks GV
February 18, 2008

PhilB
GREAT ep GV!
Man, that sure was a secret a lot of people didn’t want out! I love St-Aubin too…. The best I had was also from Hubert Lamy, but from the En RÃ©milly parcel… Just mind blowing! Let’s remember here that, just as GV said, this AOC is right next to the more prestigious ones of Chassagne and Puligny, but this particular parcel of En RÃ©milly is located right next, I mean RIGHT next to the Grand Cru of Chevalier-Montrachet that goes for well over 100 euros/bottle! Don’t miss out on these wines Vayniacs!
PS: But be careful, they’re not all good… I bought a 1er cru from an unknown producer and even in the fabulous 2005 vintage, it was nothing exceptional… Stick with the big names producer-wise…

PhilB