EP 411 2005 Bordeaux Talk On The Heels Of The New Wine Spectator

Wine Spectators new 2005 bordeaux issue inspires this show of WLTV. Gary yaps about the wines and the vintage and the fact that tomorrow is the 2 year anniversary of this little show.

Wines tasted in this episode:

2005 Chateau Luchey Halde BlancGraves/Pessac-Leognan
2005 Chateau Les Secrets De CardinaleSt Emilion

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John__J

qotd: some, definitely not a lot, can’t afford to roll like that

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  • Josh in Burgundy

    I am an American, but I am living in a village in the southern most part of the Cote D’or in Burgundy.

    I buy the 2005’s here but I just drink them all. That and in Burgundy it is hard to get much else besides burgundy.(like that is a legitimate complaint!)

  • Josh in Burgundy

    I am an American, but I am living in a village in the southern most part of the Cote D’or in Burgundy.

    I buy the 2005’s here but I just drink them all. That and in Burgundy it is hard to get much else besides burgundy.(like that is a legitimate complaint!)

  • Dan-o

    QOTD sub – I am a fan of white Bordeaux. I like to describe it as a beautiful skinny model after she gained some weight. A Sancerre is the model when she has an eating disorder – very lean, crisp and tight. White Bordeaux takes some of the features of this lean person and adds a bit of body!

    QOTD – I am not stocked in 2005s. I bought a lot of the 2000 vintage and then I purchased good sized quantities of 2001 and 2002 from the off-vintage (Las Cases, Calon Segur, Comtesse de Lalande, Lynch Bages). Therefore, I knod of got Bored-oh.

  • Dan-o

    QOTD sub – I am a fan of white Bordeaux. I like to describe it as a beautiful skinny model after she gained some weight. A Sancerre is the model when she has an eating disorder – very lean, crisp and tight. White Bordeaux takes some of the features of this lean person and adds a bit of body!

    QOTD – I am not stocked in 2005s. I bought a lot of the 2000 vintage and then I purchased good sized quantities of 2001 and 2002 from the off-vintage (Las Cases, Calon Segur, Comtesse de Lalande, Lynch Bages). Therefore, I knod of got Bored-oh.

  • Andy Kibler

    het Gary ..after heeding your praise I picked up five or six good 2005 bordeaux….thanks for the shows on the 2005.. I completely lucked out though on one measley bottle of Chateau L’Evangile Pomerol 2005 at where else??
    Costco!!!!!!!!!!! Pre-sale 2 bottle limit in Dec. 2007. I eany meany miney moed it and paid $199.00 for the bottle. It had a barrel rating of 93 to 97 and WS gave it a 100!!!! Very happy about it..I’ll have a special family/friend occasion for it in 10 -15 years from now……….thanks

  • Andy Kibler

    het Gary ..after heeding your praise I picked up five or six good 2005 bordeaux….thanks for the shows on the 2005.. I completely lucked out though on one measley bottle of Chateau L’Evangile Pomerol 2005 at where else??
    Costco!!!!!!!!!!! Pre-sale 2 bottle limit in Dec. 2007. I eany meany miney moed it and paid $199.00 for the bottle. It had a barrel rating of 93 to 97 and WS gave it a 100!!!! Very happy about it..I’ll have a special family/friend occasion for it in 10 -15 years from now……….thanks

  • http://www.jikvig.com/ Jørn Idar

    SQOTD; No way, Norway!
    QOTD; No Bordeaux:-(

  • http://www.jikvig.com Jørn Idar

    SQOTD; No way, Norway!
    QOTD; No Bordeaux:-(

  • latraviata

    QOTD: I bought a 2005 Bordeaux a couple of days ago and can’t wait to try it. Thanks for the shout out to all the loyal Canadian fans of WLTV.

  • latraviata

    QOTD: I bought a 2005 Bordeaux a couple of days ago and can’t wait to try it. Thanks for the shout out to all the loyal Canadian fans of WLTV.

  • http://corkd.com/people/spazaholic J-Pipes

    side QOTD: I now consider myself part of the Canadian Contingency, even though I haven’t met any of the others yet. :) But I will, in a week or so!
    QOTD: I am relatively UNpositioned with regards to 2005 Bordeaux. My strategy? Make good good good friends who are better at planning ahead with wine than I am!

  • http://corkd.com/people/spazaholic J-Pipes

    side QOTD: I now consider myself part of the Canadian Contingency, even though I haven’t met any of the others yet. :) But I will, in a week or so!
    QOTD: I am relatively UNpositioned with regards to 2005 Bordeaux. My strategy? Make good good good friends who are better at planning ahead with wine than I am!

  • amm3rd

    I bot the ’05 Valrose because I loved the ’00 Valrose, probably going to buy another case, but too many choices!!!

  • amm3rd

    I bot the ’05 Valrose because I loved the ’00 Valrose, probably going to buy another case, but too many choices!!!

  • Anonymous

    QOTD: Don’t have enough in the cellar, try to buy whatever I can afford and am influenced by a lot of your recommendations.

  • Donna Marie

    QOTD: Don’t have enough in the cellar, try to buy whatever I can afford and am influenced by a lot of your recommendations.

  • Jason S.

    QOTD: Unfortunately, I don’t have any. I was in school when the futures went on sale and couldn’t afford them, even at those low prices. Hopefully I can pick some up now.

  • Jason S.

    QOTD: Unfortunately, I don’t have any. I was in school when the futures went on sale and couldn’t afford them, even at those low prices. Hopefully I can pick some up now.

  • StevoVino

    Side Q: New Zealand
    QOTD: zero bottles of 05 Bordeaux in my cellar :-(

  • StevoVino

    Side Q: New Zealand
    QOTD: zero bottles of 05 Bordeaux in my cellar :-(

  • Sparky58

    I’ve got 2 promises for you. Yes, I’ll seek out white Bordeaux. And, no more lurking! Thanks for the Thunder! Keep it fresh.

  • Sparky58

    I’ve got 2 promises for you. Yes, I’ll seek out white Bordeaux. And, no more lurking! Thanks for the Thunder! Keep it fresh.

  • Matti

    SQOTD: London, UK

  • Matti

    SQOTD: London, UK

  • Gary & Ray

    Has anyone read the back label of Chateau Les Secrets Di Cardinale 2005?
    The last paragraph states it was bottled in May 2008! I bought a bottle and wonder if this typeo is on all the bottles. Let me know.

  • Gary & Ray

    Has anyone read the back label of Chateau Les Secrets Di Cardinale 2005?
    The last paragraph states it was bottled in May 2008! I bought a bottle and wonder if this typeo is on all the bottles. Let me know.

  • TeeKay

    Hi Gary,
    Try to get some 2005 Bordeaux’s. I am watching from the Netherlands.

  • TeeKay

    Hi Gary,
    Try to get some 2005 Bordeaux’s. I am watching from the Netherlands.

  • jimka

    Were are you?
    I’m watching from Munich Germany

  • jimka

    Were are you?
    I’m watching from Munich Germany

  • Oakmon’s BF

    Youâ??ve done a lot of 2005 Bordeaux shows. You say anybody can make a good wine in Bordeaux in â??05. You also talk of the prices shooting up. But you focus on the high end. If the hundred dollar bottles shoot up 50%, will the $10 bottles also shoot up 50%? In the fall of 2007 I hit the Bordeaux aisle of the Claymont Total Wines. I picked up about 8 bottles of the red stuff from different wineries in the $10 to $12 range with no regard to vintage (or winery). I think I only made it about a third of the way down the aisle when I stopped because I had enough for one shopping trip. In January of 2008 I discovered WLTV and over the next few months I watched every episode and discovered that 2005 was something special. I then checked my stash and discovered that theyâ??re nearly all 2005. Iâ??m thinking, â??boy did I luck out.â? WLTV also convinced me that I should keep track of the wines I drink and take notes. Iâ??m sure Iâ??ve had Bordeaux before but tonight Iâ??m having the first one since I started keeping track. So â?¦

    Iâ??m having my first (recorded) red Bordeaux as I rewatch this episode. Itâ??s a 2005 Chateau Haut-Guillebot Bordeaux. I did a little internet searching and it looks like itâ??s still selling for about $10 to $12. So perhaps low end 2005 Bordeaux hasnâ??t shot up over the last year. Itâ??s got the tannins that I like. Iâ??m not real good at identifying flavors but itâ??s not bad. But itâ??s not good enough for me to run out and try to get more of the same label.

  • Oakmon’s BF

    Youâ??ve done a lot of 2005 Bordeaux shows. You say anybody can make a good wine in Bordeaux in â??05. You also talk of the prices shooting up. But you focus on the high end. If the hundred dollar bottles shoot up 50%, will the $10 bottles also shoot up 50%? In the fall of 2007 I hit the Bordeaux aisle of the Claymont Total Wines. I picked up about 8 bottles of the red stuff from different wineries in the $10 to $12 range with no regard to vintage (or winery). I think I only made it about a third of the way down the aisle when I stopped because I had enough for one shopping trip. In January of 2008 I discovered WLTV and over the next few months I watched every episode and discovered that 2005 was something special. I then checked my stash and discovered that theyâ??re nearly all 2005. Iâ??m thinking, â??boy did I luck out.â? WLTV also convinced me that I should keep track of the wines I drink and take notes. Iâ??m sure Iâ??ve had Bordeaux before but tonight Iâ??m having the first one since I started keeping track. So â?¦

    Iâ??m having my first (recorded) red Bordeaux as I rewatch this episode. Itâ??s a 2005 Chateau Haut-Guillebot Bordeaux. I did a little internet searching and it looks like itâ??s still selling for about $10 to $12. So perhaps low end 2005 Bordeaux hasnâ??t shot up over the last year. Itâ??s got the tannins that I like. Iâ??m not real good at identifying flavors but itâ??s not bad. But itâ??s not good enough for me to run out and try to get more of the same label.

  • Ray Barnes

    As almost always a very fun episode, and being a newbie here I just pulled it from the archives. Anything coming from Ch. Fleur Cardinale is a winner so congratulations on procuring that allocation.

    QOTD – I have had some 2005 petits chateaux and most of them were very good. One very dissapointing offering was the 2005 Chateau Vieille Tour La Rose, coming from St. Emilion. This was just a very mediocre wine, fortunately inexpensive. A very nice sleeper was the Chateau Pezat, a Bordeaux Superieur from Entre Deux Mers that is owned and vinified by and at Chateau Teyssier in St. Emilion – and very much resembles that more famous commune. I also have one bottle each of Chateaux Giraud, Nenin, and Bahans Haut-Brion.

    Surrey BC Canada

  • Ray Barnes

    As almost always a very fun episode, and being a newbie here I just pulled it from the archives. Anything coming from Ch. Fleur Cardinale is a winner so congratulations on procuring that allocation.

    QOTD – I have had some 2005 petits chateaux and most of them were very good. One very dissapointing offering was the 2005 Chateau Vieille Tour La Rose, coming from St. Emilion. This was just a very mediocre wine, fortunately inexpensive. A very nice sleeper was the Chateau Pezat, a Bordeaux Superieur from Entre Deux Mers that is owned and vinified by and at Chateau Teyssier in St. Emilion – and very much resembles that more famous commune. I also have one bottle each of Chateaux Giraud, Nenin, and Bahans Haut-Brion.

    Surrey BC Canada

  • Dessert Wine Nerd

    Great show. Nice to get another 2005 update from you. If I remember I first learned about the “legendary” vintage from you. QOTD: Pretty damn good. I bought almost all of mine from Costco, so I got a good deal over what most wine shops would sell bottles for. Ive got about 6 bordeauxs, and something like 4 sauternes. Couldnt help myself…. Costco has steals…. STEALS!!!

  • Dessert Wine Nerd

    Great show. Nice to get another 2005 update from you. If I remember I first learned about the “legendary” vintage from you. QOTD: Pretty damn good. I bought almost all of mine from Costco, so I got a good deal over what most wine shops would sell bottles for. Ive got about 6 bordeauxs, and something like 4 sauternes. Couldnt help myself…. Costco has steals…. STEALS!!!

  • waynooo daaa wino

    Yo G, Sluuuurrrrppin' da Luchey-Halde 2005 dat i got from Ya when dhis Ep
    aired……. I LIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIKES IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :O)

  • corkscrew

    Have not had either. QOTD-maybe a couple in cellar.. http://www.winelx.com

  • TonyK

    In Toronto, On, Canada. From Brela, Dalmatia, Croatia. Thanks from bringing the vino thunder to North America.

  • John__J

    qotd: some, definitely not a lot, can’t afford to roll like that

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