2005 Bordeaux Talk On The Heels Of The New Wine Spectator

2005 Bordeaux Talk On The Heels Of The New Wine Spectator – Episode #411

February 19, 2008

Wine Spectators new 2005 bordeaux issue inspires this show of WLTV. Gary yaps about the wines and the vintage and the fact that tomorrow is the 2 year anniversary of this little show.

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“Great show. Nice to get another 2005 update from you. If I remember …” by Dessert Wine Nerd
“As almost always a very fun episode, and being a newbie here I just pu…” by Ray Barnes
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Wines tasted in this episode:

2005 Chateau Luchey Halde BlancGraves/Pessac-Leognan
2005 Chateau Les Secrets De CardinaleSt Emilion

Links mentioned in todays episode.

343 Responses

February 19, 2008

crank
I’m in.
February 19, 2008

dank
my downfall.. my joy..

i need to get in.. 2005 Bordeaux
February 19, 2008

waibeans
duo!
February 19, 2008

Hinrgman
We’ve been waiting
February 19, 2008

Sassodoro
Top 10!! Wow!
February 19, 2008

Matthew L
Finally back in the top 10 fold.
February 19, 2008

Hinrgman
QOTD _ as much 05 as I can afford

I am still adding to the collection
February 19, 2008

John Farrin
Top 10. More later
February 19, 2008

Hinrgman
Not many responses yet!!!
February 19, 2008

Chris
top 10!
February 19, 2008

MagnumGourmet
Top 20…Woo Hoo!
February 19, 2008

Karl Laczko
Sounds like a good episode, but I’ll have to catch it tomorrow, it’s late here and I’m getting the evil-eye from Sarah.

Night all.
February 19, 2008

josh
great episode
loving the boor-dooks
February 19, 2008

sobojosh
14 that sucks!
February 19, 2008

dank
QTOD: my story makes me cry inside, haha.

i was a senior in college in ‘05-’06 and was reading the effusive descriptions of the 2005 Bordeaux and i told my family, cousins, anyone who would listen to me. BUY BUY BUY! once in a lifetime, etc.

i knew about 3% of the total, and practical wine info i know now so everyone was like, ‘eh’.. i told them to buy cases, let’s do this as an investment, and a wonderful time capsule..

now i’m sitting here with nada, zilp, zero, zilch.
sad. sad but with 2 bottles of the Les Secrets De Cardinale..
February 19, 2008

Flyingscot
Still good value to be had. Check out this months Decanter Magazine. Crus Bourgeois are the way to go for good 2005 values.
February 19, 2008

Anthony L.
What a cliffhanger. Waiting for the winner. Anyway. Great episode. Can’t wait until tomorrow
February 19, 2008

Brandon T.
Funny, I finally made it to Bordeax in 2005 and it was an excellent sexual trip with buckets of ripe grapes, mainly petit verdot and merlot, lots of Dionysos slathering and reciting of poems with non-rhythmic gestures of funny wildness. Would love to see gary’s bum splattered with cabernet jam by a pretty girl while overwhelming jubilation and chanting?
February 19, 2008

Panosh
2005…. At 50, It may almost be too late to buy and store some of the great stuff. I did though, buy a few cases of the 2000 and have everything from $20 to $400 bottles that I am hanging onto. I guess I should at least get a few to drink in the next 5-7.

See ya tomorrow to hear my name.
February 19, 2008

Dr T from N. Carolina
2005 Bordeaux? LOL Just 4 bottles of Merlot-blends and one Cab-based, all released months ago, so nothing special.

“T”
February 19, 2008

Geoff
QOTD: don’t have a lot of storage and I keep drinking it as fast as i can order more
February 19, 2008

mikey lennon
QOTD: I have no 2005 Bordeaux story, if I see a bottle and I have the money for it I definitely will pick it up, but alas my meager income and college requirements will inhibit my purchasing power of such quality wine. So serve up that California Cabernet because the 05 Bordeaux will be the one that got away.
February 19, 2008

Rani Haykal
Great Show!!!

Cant wait for tomorrows show. Ive been on since about episode 40, so the two year mark for the show is awesome and im glad to see it still moving strong.

QOTD: I actually have purchased a few bottles of the ‘05 vintage…more specifically bottles from Grand-Puy-Lacoste and Gruard Larose. The problem is the price for the ‘05 has skyrocketed and makes alot of other chateaux that I usually drink from a little out of my price range. Im dying to find some good values from Pomerol in this vintage, but as of now…..nothing.

–RH
February 19, 2008

Sassodoro
I haven’t been very much into 2005 Bordeaux, and I’m having regrets as I taste some of the little ones and see how good even they are. Alas.
February 19, 2008

Christopher J
Bought and already drank many 2005 Bordeaux wines. I am glad that I had the opportunity to try many before the price went up.
February 19, 2008

MonkuWino
My 2005 Bordeaux story is very sad since I didn’t buy any.
February 19, 2008

DannInNH
Great show. I was reading my WS as you were doing the show.
QOTD: I did listen to you last year and did buy some Bordeaux Futures, to the tune of 12 cases. No, not all were pricey although I did get some Ch. Angelus, Ch. Cos D’estournal and Ch. Branon. The rest were picked up to allow me to enjoy the wines before I get too old.
Also, your persuasive comments about the de Cardinale forced me to pick up some of it which I plan to enjoy with the wife when it comes in.
And BTW, don’t change the intro, everything is working just fine now.
February 19, 2008

John Farrin
QOTD: You’ve pretty well bankrupted me.
- O5 Chateau Branon,(future-08) Haut Medoc (3) 2011-2040
â€“ 05 Haut Bergey, (future-08) Graves/Pessac-leognan (3) 2011-2025
â€“ 05 Chateau Angelus, (future-08) St. Emilion (3) 2015-2045
â€“ 05 (Future-08) La Croix De Gay, Pomerol 2008=2023
â€“ 05 (Future-08) Haut Brisson, St. Emilion 2018-2050
â€“ 05â€“(Future-08) Petit Bocq, St Estephe 2008-2015
â€“ 05 â€“(Future-08) Chateau Sansonnet, St. Emilion (2) 2009-2017
â€“ 05 â€“(Future-08) Rollan De By, Medoc 2008-2018
â€“ 05 â€“ (Future-08)Chateau Valrose Cuvee Alienor, St. Estephe (9)
â€“ 05- Chasse Spleen, Moulis 1.5 L (3) 2012-2020+
- 05 â€“ Chateau Coufran, Haut Medoc
â€“ 05 Chateau Cheval Brun (4)
â€“ 05- Caronne Ste. Gemme, Haut-Medoc (12) 2012-2022
â€“ 05- Michel Rolland Episode One (3) 2013-2030
â€“ 05 – Chateau Reignac, Bordeaux (8) 2008-2020
â€“ 05- Clarke, Listrac (5) 2009-2018
â€“ 05 Chateau Mylord, Bordeaux (2) 2008-2015
February 19, 2008

Susan
Gary-Are you back??? WOW!!!!
February 19, 2008

BobbyTiger
The best that I can do is a six-pack of Nehi Grape soda that I bought in 2005. BUT, yes Gary, only because of you, (as I’m not a white wine guy), I will seek out the white bordeaux. The Louchey might be the one. To this point, never had a bordeaux……. period. Time for a change.
February 19, 2008

Tom
One more day??!! The suspense is killing me.

But I have another item to add. You, the Wine Library and the Thunder Show are at the top of my ISO Vino list on Yelp.
http://www.yelp.com/list_details?favorites_list_id=Q3FyVqL9uOieqR6f7CyB-g&fsid=QbmBuBEmWowPsNASfupuGA

I think this list and the review has been viewed over 10,000 times……
February 19, 2008

The Fanjestic
Qotd – The future is the only place I haven’t bought wines.
February 19, 2008

carnyc
QOTD: I bought a crapload of ‘05 futures from the WL and can’t wait until they arrive. In the meantime, looking forward to Friday’s tasting!
February 19, 2008

DavidB
QOTD I have bought a few from local merchants and I have a number of futures from you that have yet to arrive. Thanks for the heads up and keep on doing what your doing:)
February 19, 2008

Matthew L
QOTD: Position? Butkus. I don’t have any 2005, but I may pick something up if I can. It would be solely because my interest has been piqued and I want to try something different. I’ve never been a huge Bordeaux person–either because I was too broke or too stupid to get involved. I’m still at the point were I’m buying and enjoying wine that I can afford. Quite honestly, bottles cresting $30+ make me cringe. I try to stick to around $15/bottle. With that said, I take copious notes from your shows because I feel like I’m in training for greater experiences with wine. It’s also good to have friends who enjoy sharing their wine and have far greater means than me.

Thanks, as always, for educating and giving some of us something to shoot for!
February 19, 2008

CABDRINKER
Gary – Thank for the B-DAY SHOUT OUT!

QOTD: I could give a frosty crank about 2005 Bordeaux. ‘05 California cabernets are much better!
February 19, 2008

Greg
WOW i had no idea Jame Suckling existed until this episode.

Gary usually chalks him off as those “Guys at wine spectator”

finally, he gets mention!

keep up the great work!

-Greg
February 19, 2008

Vette Tony
QOTD: Catching up on accumlated bills has left me high and dry on 2005 Bordeaux. Looks like I’ll be one of those paying the higher prices when I can finally afford them.
February 19, 2008

Plminer
Good show, love Bordeaux, just went to a 05′ tasting this past weekend and found a monster deal on a Huat Brion that rang in for $16.99!
QOTD: Got some but no where near enough, I’d spend a million bucks on 05’s if I could.
February 19, 2008

ChezJosh
I’ve got nothing! I roll with the CKC, but I’m going to a Bordeaux tasting on Thursday in Chicago and I hope to find some nice values.
February 19, 2008

DaveyDonut
I’m going to be majorly bummed if you really do stop scoring… as I mentioned once, it’s a great relative measure for YOUR palate (and I understand it’s YOUR palate here). After reading and trying various wines that a given critic has reviewed, I will generally be able to tell how that person’s overall enjoyment of the wine is relative to the whole world of wine. Tasting notes are likely more important, but the score is what measures the deliciousness or enjoyment factor of wine, for that person… Sometimes you’ve gone totally bonkers over a wine, being all loud and excited, and then score it 89. If I was going on your reaction, I’d have guessed 92… likewise, you’ve passed on some 91 point ones that were a bit more expensive. So giving us that relative measure (outside of the notes) is important…

Yeah, 2005 Bordeaux is all the rage, and you’ve been talking about it quite a bit over the last two years (and I think you for it!), but I’m surprised you aren’t talking about 2005 Burgundy yet (did you get my email?) All the press I’ve been reading seems to imply that relative to other recent vintages, the Burgundy 2005’s are perhaps even more remarkable… Allen Meadows asks us to sell our spouses to buy 2005 Burgundies, and many people (all who know?) are saying it is THE vintage within living memory (whereas Bordeaux does have a few other great ones (1982 especially))… I’m going crazy on 2005 Burgundies right now (and have answered a few of my own questions since my email to you).

QOTD: Currently have 5+ cases of 2005 Bordeaux. May like to get a few more, but yeah I have definitely seen the prices jump (some I bought at $60 are at $100 now). And it was your shows that first turned me onto the 2005 Bordeaux, but that did lead to a lot more research as well. As I said though, right now I am even more excited about 2005 Burgundy though, so I think any more Bordeaux purchases will likely wait (perhaps until they’re all gone/unaffordable). But I’m definitely glad I have what I do! Also, I only have a couple cases of 2001 Brunello, so I’d probably get some more of that before I jumped into more Bordeaux.

David
February 19, 2008

MW_DM,IA
QOTD: Unfortunately, I didn’t take any action when you were talking about how amazing 2005 is going to be. I’ll have to see what’s left at the store when I go shopping this weekend, I’ve got a lot of catching up to do.
February 19, 2008

Kev and Ams
QOTD: I have 2… only 2. =(
February 19, 2008

Alex Hopgood
Hi GV and everyone. that was a good episode, just thought that id say hello from England!! cant wait for 2moros episode and cant wait 4 laid back friday coz its my 19th birthday. im legal here haha. ive got a french wine shop 5mins walk away from me so im definately going to have a look at some good bordeauxs, dont think ill be able to get the 2005’s tho, im on a student budget here you no. cheers
February 19, 2008

Dave
I don’t have any 2005 Bordeaux.
February 19, 2008

getmeacab
Gary I canâ€™t believe you are still pumping (pimping) the 2005 Bordeaux; as if Parker and Spectator wasnâ€™t enough. Now everyone will run out and buy whatever is labeled 2005. Please please please keep quiet so those in the know can hoard more.

I was only able to get in on 30 cases January-August of 2007. Now the prices are too high and the dollar is virtually worthless when it comes to French wine. And so for that I have stopped buying 2005 Bordeaux.

GOOD LUCK suckers!
February 19, 2008

DrEdwardo
Side Question: (Metro) Vancouver BC Canada
February 19, 2008

Toby
DENMARK!

2005 Bordeauxâ€™s is the only wines I have bought several cases of for personal use!

I usually never buy cases â€“ in a way, to â€œforceâ€ myself not to drink the same wine over and over again, but rather to try new wines constantly.
February 19, 2008

KAHUNA
QOTD: 10+ cases
February 19, 2008

cma82
QOTD: Oh..I’ve got tons in my cellar. I’m keeping them right next to my 24K gold plated bananas.
February 19, 2008

Danny C
Gary,

Thanks for your thoughts on the Williams Selyem bottles!

QOTD: I have no 2005 Bordeaux! Sad! I tried to get my Dad to help me purchase a case of it earlier last year, but he didn’t bite…understandably. So I am keeping my fingers crossed that I will be fortunate enough to taste some at some point. We’ll see…

Great show!
February 19, 2008

jason
QOTD: i have been buying steadily. in europe they have come and gone almost. i have been spreading it evenly buying rhone, burgundy and bordeaux with a few loire whites in there. i have been getting some duhart milion, lafon rochet, cote roti, CDP ( beaucastel + vieux telegraphe) gevrey and the small st emilion chateaux i like ( aka chat, quercy) love the aloxe corton. the gem is a bottle of pousse d’or volnay “60 ouverts” can’t get enough!
February 19, 2008

Robin C
QOTD: we have 4 2005 burgandies and 4 2005 bordeauxs – including the Michel Rolland, Chateau Angelus and Chateau Haut Bergey Rouge which we got or are expecting from Wine Library, and some 2005 Joseph Drouhin Chablis Vaudesirs.

The wines on today’s show sound very interesting.

I’m glad the shirt/skin situation is successfully resolved. Didn’t Tom Jones insure his chest hair? You can’t be too careful.
February 19, 2008

Joe F
After your last show about the 2005 I stopped at WL and a local wine shop and bought six different wines, all under fifteen dollars. Over that weekend I tried them all and the went back and bought several bottles of my three favorites. I know have about two mixed cases of 2005 Bordeaux. One of my favorites is the Ch. Ronan I picked up at WL.
February 19, 2008

T. Reasoner
2005 La Bienfaisance Bordeaux Blend which I got three bottles today at $28 parker gave it a 92 – 94 so I believe I got a deal.
aloha,

Phins fan in Maui
February 19, 2008

Taylor
Great episode, watched the bordeaux ep’s a bunch!
QOTD My 05 bordeaux story is a happy one, i wish i had boughten more but i have a few heavy hitters in the cellar!
February 19, 2008

*/^_^\*
qotd: i’m nowhere in 2005 bc i lost my job and i’m trying to recover from a broken leg and ankle. i figure i will have to look for value in ‘04.
February 19, 2008

cgatesman
QOTD: Unfortunately, I only have a couple ‘05 futures coming. Partly because I didn’t feel I had established a good enough cellar for it (I know have…little too late), and partly because of the price (even for futures).

Gary…please do not stop scoring. I’m sure a lot of others will say this, and you know the reasons people like to hear a score. It helps a lot, but people also have to trust their palate at the same time and try things. But I don’t think that is a good reason to stop the scoring.
February 19, 2008

mbannon
Good job GV, and gratz on making it to the 2-year mark! I have several bottles of 05, but no whites yet. Need to remedy that, as I love white Bordeaux.
February 19, 2008

Tstank
I have one 2005’s. I was giving this Christmas and gave all of my futures away to friends and family. I am either the nicest guy is the world or the biggest idiot.
February 19, 2008

kBear
2005 seems to work for many vintages from Europe – would you be so kind to remind some of us part time lurkers what makes some years more magical than others – it’s not just the weather is it ?
February 19, 2008

CW
QOTD: I just bought 4 bottles of Secret and that will be it for me. If they suck I’m coming for you !
February 19, 2008

JC
Good show … QOTD: Squat on the 05’s.
February 19, 2008

JeffN
woo Canada!! (Ontario, saw the Globe and Mail article)
February 19, 2008

woodchuck
I’ve purchased 21 bottles of 2005 Bordeaux with plans to pick up another case or two.
February 19, 2008

Primo Bo
QOTD: Got a mixed case. Can’t wait to drink it… 10 years from now!
February 19, 2008

Dominus
Great show and it excites me to see the internet kid peruse a printed copy of the WS for his wine info. Since I work for one of the largest publishers in the world, it’s nice to see someone “reading” a magazine! Yes, it’s a great publication and my only subscription.

QOTD: ‘05 Bordeauxs. I’m up the crick without a paddle. Hoping to get my hands on some Reignac which I adore so I guess I’ll need to make a trip to RP’s favorite wine shop in DC before they’re all gone!

Cheers to Bordeaux!
February 19, 2008

hugh
I’m glad i’m stocked well in 2000’s…..they were “cheap” compared to 2005
February 19, 2008

maggiej
Have to tell a story here. I am a pediatrician who two years ago knew nothing about wine beyond 2 buck chuck and Beujolais. Last February, I took care of a newborn of a Santa Ynez Valley winemaker and he gave me a bottle of wine and invited my family and I to tour the vineyard. It was so cool! Subsequently, my husband and I found your show, just as you went to Bourdeaux. On your recommendation, I bought 6 bottles from Winelibrary. I wish I had bought more, but now that I am into wine more seriously, I sure am glad I bought those bottles.
February 19, 2008

chenrys
Those wines sound wonderful from your descriptions.

QOTD: We’re not posiitoned well for 2005 Bordeaux…but we’re not really trying to build a wine cellar yet. We’re just trying lots of different wines…more than anything. I expect we’ll get to try some.
February 19, 2008

Nick
QOTD: I’ve had one 05, a crap load of 03’s lately. I’ve got an 86 I’m planning on cracking open.
February 19, 2008

RB
QOTD: I have over 7 cases on pre-order and now I am looking for 7 more….still not sure where I am going to put them…may need to refer back to WLTV wine cellar episodes…Can’t wait for them to arrive in June 08.

Love the recommend on white Bordeaux….would love to see a show on these wines less than $20…if it is possible. Thanks!
February 19, 2008

HipandKneeDoc
Great episode, NOT looking forward to any changes.

QOTD: Several cases, used some poker money to uy at your advice. Guess I will find out on Friday at the Manor if it was a good investment or not…..
February 19, 2008

MossyMo
Awesome show, GV. I didn’t get as much as I’d like of the 05 Bords…about three cases – Clos Eglise Pomerol, Larcis Ducasse, Pavie Mac, Croix St. Georges, Fleur Cardinale, Pipeau, Clos L’Oratoire, La Fleur, La Tour Figeac. I need more!!! Can’t wait to see more 05 Bord tastings from you!

Peace and hair grease, brother!
February 19, 2008

Chris
Hi there Gary,

as you wanted to know, where the people are from, who watch your show, I can tell you I am from Burgenland, Austria, near Neusiedler See (lake).
My family has a small winery here and we produce white and also red wines. My father Wilhelm (Willy) is really a mastermind in my opinion but he only wants to sell our wines on word of mouth – by the way, it is not really a big winery, …

I am watching your show since last week and had a look on nearly every episode.
The one with your brother A.J. I liked very much because this brings really heart and family in your show – and your show is that huge “funky funk” – or how do you say it? – really great man – thatÂ´s really a great job you do!

The next days I am gonna talk with a friend of mine, who is responsible for advertising and talking about Burgenland wine – these weeks he was in NY – would have been a good time to know each other or to introduce you, because as you know we have very good wines here in Austria, especially in my home country BURGENLAND, YESSSSSSSS ))
Yes and I want to talk to him, setting up a Burgenland WINE TV, … to tell people about our wines here!
Maybe you want to come here and taste through some of our winerys? A wine journey/trip to Burgenland? Did you ever had one?

So you see I also posted my “website” above which is my profile at XING – a social community which started in Europe and has more than 5 million members now around the planet. There are a lot of “wine groups” there where I would like to post information about your show, if you allow it.

A big question from me to you:
can I watch your show live, too? I am always waiting until about 1 am to watch the next episode ) really, I am not kidding!
And what about the comments/tags in the video (do people, who watch the show can put some tags and hello, questions there? Is there a part at your website which explains that in an easy and short way?
Sometimes you tell your buddy at the cam – what is his name? Mark? – that he should link it, but there is no link or pop up which tells me what you just mentioned. So if people are not that familiar with your rapid english talking, it might be difficult to follow you and know what you are talking about ))

So, before I write a roman, I say a big hello from Burgenland, Austria,
wine region “Neusiedler See / Ruster HÃ¼gelland”, to you and all from the staff there at winelibraryTV.

See you tomorrow at episode #412, right?

Cheers,
Chris
February 19, 2008

Neil
QOTD: 76 bottles on futures – can’t wait for June 2008!
February 19, 2008

DT
QOTD: 9+ cases.
February 19, 2008

Mike L
Good job calling that 2005 Bordeaux vintage! I can’t wait to get my hands on some..somehow..soon!
February 19, 2008

Harley Stan
Great show, Homer had nothing on you.
QOTD- 2005 Bordeaux DOH!!!! I don’t have any. Acutally when you were saying buy on futures I was pretty new to the idea and didn’t feel comfortable buying wine on futures,I am more comfortable in the wine world now( thanks to the The Thunder show). I bought the Vayniac Cab before the grapes were even picked.

Other QOTD- Born in Canada, came to the States when I was seven
February 19, 2008

Adam W
QOTD: I have never bought an ‘05 Bordeaux before.

Great show. Congrats on 2 years.
February 19, 2008

Social Project Brian
My modest collection is still fairly new and growing, but 2005 bordeaux is probably my biggest position at 38 bottles. Usually 3 of this, 3 of that, 1 of this, 2 of that, 3 of this… Maybe some I should have bought by the case, but who knows.
February 19, 2008

JonE
Mr. Exclusive! Big time on the Secret.

QOTD: Cali Pinots are stealing my money right now, but i know I need to change focus. Okay on the 05′ Burgundy front though.
February 19, 2008

MikeyB
cool episode.

qotd: i think i got about 2 cases of the 2005 brdx ordered, which is something i NEVER do. Way too broke. But i trusted my buddy gary and am really excited i did. can’t wait to get those babies. (although probably should just sit on em for at least 10 years, right?)
February 19, 2008

Joe Po
Gary,

I have 2 cases coming, one the Valrose thanks to you so I guess I am anxiously anticipaing the arrival of the juice!!
February 19, 2008

LarryTheWineGuy
Bought Some 2005 Futures From You like Chateau Sansonnet…Can’t wait to get it. Also picked up The Winemakers Cuvee 2005 Bordeaux where Michel Rolland is the Winemaker on this years venture. But just as much as you have been preaching about 2005 Bordeaux Vintage Futures for quite some time now….You should also know from your current trip…2005 Oregon Pinots Were CLASSIC and very tough To find on the marketplace and 2005 WALLA WALLA and COLUMBIZ VALLEY Cabs, Merlots, Syrahs…Classics….I bought 2005 Washington Futures months ago….42nd degree parallel same as Bordeaux… You, Me, 2005 And A little bit of Petite Chateaus from Bordeaux and a Whole Lot Of Classic Wines From Washington State and CLASSIC Low Alcohol Pinots From Oregon Burgundian Style ….CHANGING THE WINE WORLD G.V!!! WELCOME BACK
February 19, 2008

brent
Watching for MontrÃ©al, QuÃ©bec… Gary, you said a while back that you killed it at the Casino here… when are you coming back to try your luck next?! Hit us up in March for the wine expo!

No ‘05 Bordeaux yet… tempted by the Valrose futures, though
February 19, 2008

DX
Nice show. Def will search out for some 05 bordeaux.
February 19, 2008

al
calgary alberta, canada.

thx gary!
February 19, 2008

cameron w
I’m Canadian, but I live in the US.

QOTD: Not at all, I’ve been concentrating my buying in other regions for the last 2 years. I will buy 2005s, but I will likely just cherry pick in the Cru Bourgeois.
February 19, 2008

SkinnySteve
qotd: I’m from the USA, but I live in South Korea. I got my girlfriend hooked on the show and she’s Korean, so maybe that counts? hehe
February 19, 2008

MARSHALL
QOTD: I had one from St. Emilion, but haven’t had much luck finding any others.
February 19, 2008

Daniel
QOTD: I have one bottle – 2005 Chateau Les Arromans, red. It was ten bucks!

Now I’m definitely gonna grab several more bottles and put them away!
February 19, 2008

Dave Canada
Great episode! I am heading to the Knicks game that you were supposed to be at next time bro!
When are you coming up to visit the fans in Canada????
QOTD – Here is my list
1 mag of Leoville Las Cases
2 mags of Pontet Canet
4 bottles of Pontet Canet
3 bottles of Lascombes
6 bottles of Malescot
6 bottles of Malmaison
12 bottles of Puygeraud
6 bottles of de Chantegrive
3 1/2 bottles of Doisey Daene
February 19, 2008

ev
Subquestion: Like Mork, I am also from Ork.

2005 Bordeaux, NOT. The pricing is NUTZ and I am not interested at all in crazy pricing, because, let’s face it, tomorrow it’s (all wine) all just piss.
February 19, 2008

Robert Howells
I will purchase my ’05’s at a Bordeaux wine tasting and release party in Vancouver,Canada. I am planning to stock up and go into debt if needed.
February 19, 2008

F.
Canada Vayniacs Rock!

QOTD : I think I’ll have to pass on Bordeaux 2005, for financial reasons…
February 19, 2008

Kristen
I love White Bordeauxs!!!! And you can find some cheaper whites from Bordeaux out there- I like the 2004 Chateau Fort de Roquetaillade and I absolutely loved the 2006 Chateau Ducasse Blanc (both were only $15)! Yummy stuff.

QOTD: I now have two ‘05 Bordeauxs. One from Margaux which has a note on it saying “Don’t drink! Let it be for at least 10 years!” and now a bottle of the Secrets de Cardinale. This is because I roll as a CKC and because I don’t have a cellar. But I can’t wait till I have a cellar (and hopefully the dinero to back me up) and then I can buy as much wine as I want.
February 19, 2008

Dr. Dan
Interesting Bordeaux story. I bought about 4 cases of Bordeaux futures, locally in DC, in Spring of 2006 as they began to rave about them. Shortly after that, I began to watch an occasional WLTV episode. About September of 2006, I became a regular WLTV viewer and heard the admonitions to buy 2005. That Xmas, I received a couple of Border’s Books gift certificates. Right after Xmas, I stopped at Border’s to buy myself a nice cookbook. But, instead, I saw The Southeby’s Wine Encyclopedia 4th Edition. Armed with that book and the information that it provided, I started buying 2005 Bordeaux futures. After the first couple of additional cases of Saint Emilion and a few left-banks, I thought that I was set. Then, based on the white Graves some friends and I used to drink 30 years ago and the memories it invoked, I bought some Carbonnieux Blanc. Pretty soon, I was convincing myself to buy 6 bottles of this and 3 or 6 bottles of that on a regular basis. I even splurged on a few Angelus and Cos D’estournels–I expect to sell most of those unless my palate becomes more discerning over time (I hope). Again, I thought that I was done. Over time the hype continued, and I continued buying. I even bought another case of Sauternes recently. When I was all done (and I’m pretty sure I’m done now), the damage was 35 cases and untold 1,000’s of dollars. My rationale for this extravagance was that this is a once in a lifetime event and it’s wine that I’ll have and enjoy for the rest of my life. The problem now is where to put it all.
February 19, 2008

paul
QOTD: Better positioned in older Bordeaux. Not much ‘05. Will buy the sea of the lower level stuff when it comes in. Can’t wait 20-30 years to drink it because I may not get to it. Don’t intend to leave a cellar to my offspring.
February 19, 2008

chris the greek
Had the chance to invest in some ‘05 about a year or so ago but unfortunatly had zero cash.
Still broke but will ask some friendly wine merchants if they have any bottles lying around they are willing to part with without too much of a mark up.
Will play the “I am young in the wine trade and did not know” card. Hope it works.

Oh yeah, am from Manchester in the UK but now live in Chester

chris the greek
February 19, 2008

Jeremy Q
QOTD: Got in a bit late since I only started watching WLTV a year ago but have 30 bottles of mixed appelation. Now I just need to be patient !!

Nice episode Gary … am huge fan of Bordeaux. Was in France a couple of weeks ago and was hoping to pick up some deals. It turns out the wines are even more expensive than what I can get here (eg: 2004 Pontet Canet was selling for 42 Euros compared to just under $50 here !)
February 19, 2008

Shadowbird
QOTD: I’m likely not going to get to buy any before the price skyrockets.
February 19, 2008

agentorange
SQOTD: I’m from Minnesota, which, contrary to popular belief, is not in America, But is actually adjacent to hell.

QOTD: Rolling under the ‘05 radar, which is to say, my wallet was as empty then as it is now.

Huge shout-out to “cma82″. Love your comment, right there with you.
February 19, 2008

Andrew H.
Hey Gary,

Unfortunately I live in Michigan and was unable to order futures of the 2005 Bordeaux from you or any other shop outside of MI. The local wine cellar wouldn’t allow me to purchase futures either. However, I was able to purchase 10, 2005 Bordeaux blends from the wine cellar. I can’t wait for spring time when I will be making a mad rush to the cellar the day they come in. Till then… more homework!
February 19, 2008

FJDR
SQOTD: I live in the capital of the Confederacy, Richmond, which was briefly part of a foreign country. Yeah I know, that doesn’t count.

My 2005 Bordeaux story: _________________________________________.
February 19, 2008

Canadian Chris
QOTD: no bordeaux. I can’t roll that deep man, even the futures were way to expensive for me. I’m not in a place where I can squirrel it away, I need wines I can drink and enjoy now until I have a nice cellar.

QOTD2: Canada baby!!!
February 19, 2008

Tommy Vernieri
QOTD: We got two bottles each of ChÃ¢teau de Reignac and ChÃ¢teau Valrose CuvÃ©e Alienor. I guess ChÃ¢teau La Fleur des Pins Graves SupÃ©rieures doesn’t count, does it?

All from you Gary =).

It’s going to be really really hard to not drink them young.
February 19, 2008

Glenn
Good show Gary, but truthfully, Bourdoux wines scare the hell out of me. The price point is way up there and my knowledge of Bourdoux is so low that I am afraid to spend the money on a wine from a region that rides the coatails of the major players and charges a price similar to theirs just because they can put Bourdoux on the label. I have tried the Mouton Cadet 2004 and thought it was good for the price and I have a 2005 Mouton Cadet white Bourdoux in the cabinet that I haven’t tried yet. There is my Bourdoux story as pitiful as it is.
February 19, 2008

Kirk (AKA: slave2thevine)
QOTD: I have bought ZERO 2005 Bordeaux. I had an amazing oportunity to buy 3 bottles of 2000 Chateau Margaux for $500 a bottle and that took up all….ALL of my 2005 Bordeaux money. I would love to get some….but my state doesn’t offer futures. So I am only buying what I can…leagally this time. Hopefully I will find a bottle or two while I am down in NJ in a few weeks…but I’m not an overly serious Bordeaux lover.
February 19, 2008

Moselman
Canadian here, but more to the point, a Canadian Senior Citizen. So as far as tasting goes, my concern for futures runs more to Ensure. And neither of my kids or their spouses are into wine (or alcohol). Where did we go wrong?
February 19, 2008

Little Jonny H
GV! It’s wonderful to have you back in real-time mode! I have to say, regarding the folks who didn’t like the Leocadie Minervois, I can understand why they wouldn’t be in love with it. I forgot that you had featured this wine on the show, and tasted it a few days ago without watching the thankgiving episode again (I like comparing your palate with mine). In short, if you don’t like black/white pepper, you simply wouldn’t like it. The beets and licorice are secondary, and much harder to pinpoint compared to the peppery notes. It was fantastic with a little grilled venison loin -the real thing, not that farm-raised stuff

My 2005 Bordeaux story? Well, about 3 months ago I tried my first red bordeaux (2001 vintage, but very old world and I love it). Since that day, I’ve spent more money in 2005 bordeaux than I’ve spent all other wine combined. No joke… and I can’t really afford it!
February 19, 2008

Carlitos
QOTD. Thankfully I was in pretty early with WLTV and listened to your advice on the ‘05 Bordeaux and got all my futures from WL. I got a little over 5 cases of everything in the entry level under $50. You know, but the lesser stuff on good vintages and good stuff on lesser vintages. Plus I’ll have some early drinking bottles to give a try as we go. They include some of GV’s favorites like the Valrose Alienor, Croix de Gay, Pontac Lynch or Montviel and some of my favorites like Haut Bergey, Haut Bages Liberal or Marquis D’alesme Becker.

BTW. When are they going to ship? Will you wait to receive all of them to start sending out?

QOTD2. I was born in the States to Spanish parents, but was raised in Spain since I was three years old. I only came back when I was 25 and have been here now for 8 years. I travel a lot internationally for work and pleasure so I’ve watched WLTV from pretty much every in the world!

Happy two year Anniversary! Here’s to many more years to come!
February 19, 2008

diana n texas
YeHawwww! LOVE THE SPAY/NEUTER message! Thanks for trying to spread the word Gary.
February 19, 2008

Lenny
I just viewed episode 403, amd I think you need to make Pipes the WLTV Babe. She was great.
Definitely brought in another dimension.

Awesome!!
February 19, 2008

Paul
Don’t have any 05 Bordeaux put away, started watching you too late to catch the wave before the prices blew past my budget. Your passion about the vintage will have me looking at the local shops to see if any are available and affordable. Keep up the passion, spread the message and good luck on reaching your 2 year anniversary.
February 19, 2008

BSal
I have been following your advice since the beginning. I have about 8 different cases to pick up this year and can’t wait to try them. I also orderd some big bottles. You were right on!
February 19, 2008

JayZee
QOTD: Gary, I hit the 2005 Bordeaux futures HARD, baby, VERY HARD. I’ve never bought so much wine before. While I have about 1,000 bottles in my cellar, I bought 8 cases!!! And I cannot WAIT to get them. I even ordered two magnums of the 2005 Sansonnet – just because. I have leaned heavily on your recommendations on this one and it looks like I won’t be disappointed. Thanks, Gary!
February 19, 2008

Sonnenuhr
QOTD Two (2) WL cases of 2005 futures. Should get more though!

Need to get the Wine Spectator issue.
February 19, 2008

DHerbie
QOTD – you convinced me early on to jump into the 2005 vintage. I don’t role too deep so I kept my purchases to the sub ~30 crowd, things like Caronne Ste Gemme, Haut-Bergey and that Sansonnet you were pushing. As I am young and still live in an apartment (sans good storage) I have a plan to place this deep in my parent’s basement, to be forgotten for 10 years…maybe…
February 19, 2008

Len
GV
Another very good episode… very interesting, don’t have much in French wines, for the reason — one like you said..the price, the higher the rating with the most popularity, through the roof….the other problem is when is the proper time to drink it which is usually 10+ years or more. Don’t want the wine to out live me but will give both the white bordeaux Luchey Halde a try and cellar the Ch. Les Secrets if still available.

Thanks again for answering my e-mail ( the question was on my wine cellar vs wines )

Lurker Len
February 19, 2008

GR8wine
Hey GV,
Beautiful color on that white Bordeaux, too bad you didn’t give us a closeup look. I think in the past you would’ve likened it to the goldilocks of Hulk Hogan.
White Bordeaux is great but it’s so hard to find a thunderous but affordable example. The one in the Christmas pack was good but do you have a few others up your sleeve?
QOTD: nothing — cash flow situation just didn’t allow it.
February 19, 2008

Ben N.
QOTD: Chateau Haut Bergey Rouge 2005, Chateau Caronne Sainte Gemme 2005, Chateau De La Cour D’argent 2005 That was all I could afford. And waiting for delivery.
February 19, 2008

amgryger
QOTD: I graduated from college last May and was essentially broke, but used gift money that I recieved to put together a mixed case of Haut Brisson, Fiezual Rouge, Pontac Lynch Quintessence, and Valrose Cuvee Alienor.
February 19, 2008

Fraser Gould
I’m in Tokyo, where EVERYTHING is Bordeaux…I think most wine shops here dedicate almost half of their shelf space to the stuff. Still pretty easy to find 2005’s here, but I don’t really know what I should be looking for. Should be doing my homework, I guess.
February 19, 2008

Grapedigger
Canada loves you GV…Keep it up man!
I started hunting for some of 05 Bordeaux that can be afforded (especially when paying Canadian prices)!! Cheers
February 19, 2008

HawkeyeOeno
I bought four bottles on pre-sale around 35 dollars or so each. this is a pretty big deal for me being 26 and not having a ton of extra to put into my wine obsession. I figure if my blue collar uncle can hold onto a bottle of port from 1941 i can hold on to a few bottles of 05 bordeaux.

By the way i was watching today’s episode at work late after most people had gone home, the guy next to me saw the show and asked about about winelibrary. he’s the first person from des moines i know in person that has seen the show….so there are two of us in the post CKC crowd in Des moines, we’re growing!
February 19, 2008

Ben F
Yo GV… Don’t sweat the guy who doesn’t understand the Thunder Show.. If someone not ever going to watch again becasue his pal did not match with yours… well they just don’t get it…
QOTD: I am going to try to find an 05 in PA, if i can find one of the ones you have suggested i am buying…
February 19, 2008

cpd
QOTD: Around 3+ cases (mixed). Will probably kick myself in 10 years for not ponying up more…
February 19, 2008

pete c
QOTD- not a big Bordeaux fan. I don’t know how a viewer could be upset at a recommendation of yours that they tried and didn’t like. After all, palates differ. The value here is having one’s mind opened to trying different wines and increasing one’s wine knowledge. Thanks, GV, for giving us this opportunity every night without asking for much in return except for leaving a comment.
February 19, 2008

shaun
Hey man great show! funny thing right before I saw this episode I had bought a Mouton Cadat 2005 Bordeaux and had foolishly opened it. Unfortunately I should have sat on it because it really was too much for this palate.
February 19, 2008

KVolk
SQOTD:Norman OK
QOTD:I never heard of 2005 Bordeaux until Nov 07 so my position is weak to say the least.

GV changing the opening makes some sense but NEVER touch the sign off it’s what you are about. The idea of an A-E-A is what keeps me watching because I had no concept of that side of wine until I began watching the Thunder show….I think it should be a T-shirt……..
February 19, 2008

Jaybird
I am getting really depressed for not buying more, but I was so turned off by the price increase. I know it is an unbelievable vintage but I also can’t wait 10-15 years to drink them. I spent to much on buccella, Bond, Shafer, Levy & McClellan….I did pick up some Pavie, Sansonnet, Cheval Brun. But that little bit won’t last long.
February 19, 2008

Graziella
2005 Bordeaux…haven’t had any yet, but since you mentioned it, I will seek it out for sure!

I’m excited for tomorrow’s show!…so what’s gonna happen, huh huh huh?
February 19, 2008

NathanN
QOTD: Never bought any futures before but I have 3 of the Valrose and 3 of the Haut Bergery. Can’t wait to give them a taste. That will be the next question when will they be ready to pot 3yrs, 10yrs, 20yrs?
February 19, 2008

Keith
My inventory:

2 bottles of New to Wine and WLTV and didn’t get your early tips
1 mag of “did he say buy Bordeaux or Burgundy?” when I’m at the store
1 bottle of “I could get 1 bottle of 92 pt from that place that starts with
a B, or 3 bottles of 90 pt from Washington for same price…that’s like
270 pts to 92!”
1 case of “I thought Merlot was unexciting”…wrong!
3 bottles of “You’re going to keep a bunch of glass bottles lying around
where?!?” from the missus.

So all I have to savor is some internet videos of GV (and WS) raving about it. But hey, I’m still digging a lot of great wine out there…the best advice is to keep trying new things.
February 19, 2008

Brandon T.
Tonight, to celebrate Obama’s victory, me and some buddies made a jungle juice with two bottles of 2002 Cheval Blanc, two bottles of 2000 Pavie, a bottle of 1996 Mouton Rothschild, a bottle of 2004 Hommage a Jacques Perrin, two bottles of 2002 Caymus S.S., a magnum of 1983 Rieussec, some Lagavulin, a bottle of Grand Marnier CuvÃ©e Speciale Cent Cinquantenaire, Martinelli apple juice, Belvedere vodka, fresh squeezed lime juice, some old Argentinian peach schnapps, and a half bottle of Hennessy Paradis. Very tasty, but… can’t wait for those 2005’s to be released!
February 19, 2008

mateo
Wow… I haven’t had a single bordeaux, and honestly, I won’t be able to afford any of the ‘05! Plus, I don’t have a cellar to keep wine in Oh well, maybe 2010 will be another great vintage, and I’ll get in on that!
February 19, 2008

laposte
QOTD:
I think my 2005 Bordeaux position is; Too much when I was buying, not enough when I will be drinking.
February 19, 2008

organicmexican
GV-We bought 4 bottles of the ‘05 Bordeaux’s. Our local wine shop was going to have a Bordeaux tasting so we were waiting for that to buy more but they haven’t set one up yet. We are just so confused on how to pick them. All we do it look at the score and notes but its so hard to decide. I feel so shallow buying solely on that. We decided to buy the four bottles from different vineyards and then go back and buy the ones we like, but that is already a $200 investment! Please help us pick or better yet can you put a 6-pack of wines together for sale at the Wine Library website? Doesn’t that sound great? Basically its just difficult to pick a bottle of Chateau X over Chateau Y when there are 20 other Chateaus you never heard of in the shop. PLEASE HELP!
February 19, 2008

Nathan
Im not rolling deep enough in the wine world yet to have a real stock of anything, lol. As of now, I have about 5 wines from HEB sitting in my 10 dollar wine rack under my hot then cold kitchen window. I am changing the wine world, GV.
February 19, 2008

Justin Viger
I am not really in a position to be able to buy and keep any wine, but I really hope my dad has bought some 2005 bordeaux cos that might mean I will be able to try them in the coming years.

As for the second question of the day I am watching from Canada, YA!
February 19, 2008

Nathan L
QOTD: I just started putting my collection together couple years ago but I bought more in 05 Bordeaux than I have in any other wine category before. I’m a grad student so I don’t have a lot of money but i’ve bought a bottle of clos l’eglise (pomerol), a couple bottles of Beseajour Duffua, a couple bottles of Pontet Canet, and a bottle of Grand Puy Lacoste. Thats a lot for me but I wish I could buy more and now times about up
February 19, 2008

Vinsant
QOTD: nada
February 19, 2008

DirtWineKen
QOTD: Well, so far I have four mixed cases consisting of Chateau Tour St. Bonnet,Chateau Tour Seran,Chateau Haut Brisson,Chateau Faizeau,Chateau Petit Bocq,Chateau Valrose Cuvee Alienor,Chateau Pontac Lynch,Chateau Haut Bergey Rouge, and Chateau Sansonnet. And, DAMN YOU GV, now you’ve got me thinking about Les Secret!
February 19, 2008

Dan A
Ontario, Canada!

BTW, had my first Bourgueil last weekend – Niiiiiiice! Thanks for the discovery…

No ‘05 yet, but we have a great selection in the
February 20, 2008

Dan A
Sorry my post got cut…

No â€˜05 yet, but we have a great selection in the less than $30 range – Time to shop!

Cheers!
February 20, 2008

Fidel C.
Hola Gary V,
QOTD part 1:
I am not in the US of A but friendly with your mother country. I recently took a retirement from my last job and plan on enjoying more wine. I enjoy your video vino show, with a Monte Cristo from time to time and just wanted to check in and give a shout out to the 2005 Bordeaux vintage – muy bueno

Congratulations on dos anos!
Viva Wine Library TV & best wishes for a long and dominating run.
- Fidel
February 20, 2008

Kdawg
QOTD: unfortunetly I haven’t spent a dime yet on 05 bordeaux. I’ll end up playing catch up and paying out the ass for it, but it’s been a matter of having money to invest in it properly and get 4-6 bottle lots
February 20, 2008

Fangorn81
QOTD: 0. No Bordeaux. Not that I wouldn’t love to have a few bottles…but I have yet to spend more than $20 on a single bottle of any wine. I mean, I haven’t been in college for a couple years, but I am definitely still in that price point. Just can’t afford it. And if I can’t afford it now (unless I get a SWEET new job) i won’t be able to afford it later.

Oh, well. I am pretty happy exploring Washington state, Cote du Rhone and Portugal for the time being. Bordeaux doesn’t have all the good wine. (and since I haven’t had any I can still convince myself of that…so don’t burst my bubble!)
February 20, 2008

Nicolas
Gary,

I love the show, but don’t bring the speculator too much on the show….

Please…
February 20, 2008

Dan C.
Gary, don’t worry about the “haters” as they are called. I’m proud to be a small part of the thundershow! Keep it up brother.

Thanks,
Daniel
February 20, 2008

Chris D
can’t wait to see what #412 has in store – thanks so much for everthing thus far

QOTD – Wine holdings ? I’m afriad I don’t hold much wine here maybe 20 bottles and of that maybe 4 bottles
February 20, 2008

Phil G
So, I know the ’scores’ are not the only reason to buy a wine, but they are the only real measurable way to compare wines. I know it may be wrong to compare wines from different vintages, regions, and grapes to each other, but I may only have so much money to spend… for example, imagine if you were to review an Italian red and Aussie shiraz – I may hear both reviews, and think that they both sound good, but can only buy one. If price and flavor profiles both match my needs, then a score is an easy way to help my decision. I guess it is important to realize it would be only your opinion, though…
February 20, 2008

KennyMac
QOTD #1: Watching from British Columbia, Canada.
QOTD #2: Just tried to be sneaky and have a bottle of the Chateau Les Secrets De Cardinale sent to my in-laws in Washington State for later pickup, but alas, my first (and most likely last) attempt ordering from the Wine Library has failed due to those pesky inter-state regulations. I’ll have to continue my search for 2005 Bordeaux…
February 20, 2008

Mike Z in SD
Bought a few 2005 Bordeaux on my limited budget… I do have a fairly good sized group of 2000’s, 01’s, and 03’s so didn’t go too nuts. I’ll keep my eye out for good 2005 buys that will actually hit the shelves near me. Other than that, I’ll be looking for my latest craze, 2004 Piedmont.
February 20, 2008

ktw
4 bottles of 2005 futures bought in june from wine lib
February 20, 2008

Tupper
Hi there Gary,
Britsh Columbia, Canada.
Great episode, keep it up…
February 20, 2008

billr
Nice show….Always teaching me something GV…..GREAT.

QOTD: I am like MIKE Z IN SD, I have several bottles of differant vintages of Bordeaux. One 2000, about 4 or 5 2003’s, a dozen or so 2004’s, a half dozen 2006’s and only 10 bottles of 2005’s. I do have a few bottles on Future’s ordered but I wish I could find more. I have several grandchildren I am looking forward to drink some of these bottles with as they each start turning 21 over the next 6 to 18 years or so. Can’t wait….Thanks for all that you do GV…..
February 20, 2008

Rhonda
QOTD: I got a 10 bottle wine fridge for Christmas this year and it is full of 2005 Bordeaux. I listened to you GV and I am glad I did. I bought all the bottles in the last 6-8 months and paid decent prices for all of them.

I think I may need a new wine fridge? haha. I live in Arizona so the fridge is the only option as our summers are just brutal and while we have killer AC, its still not enough.
February 20, 2008

Yoni Rabkin
Israel!
February 20, 2008

downtnmark
S N I F F Y – S N I F!

QOTD: I won 3 splits of ‘05 Lascombs at auction, and I have a few pairs of splits of Clos Manou, Cote de Baleau, Gruaud Larose, and Lagrange arriving as futures. But, the 2005 futures that I am looking forward to (next month!) are my Ridge Monte Bellos from here in Cupertino, CA.

I like sauvignon-blanc & semillon blends, at least the ones from Napa that I have tried (like Caymus & Provenance). If the price were better, I’d try the french ones.
February 20, 2008

Bats tongue
I’m from Wellington New Zealand. Have bought 1 dozen mixed bordeaux 2005s ranging from Leoville barton, Alter ego de palmer, bahans haut brion, pontet canet to de seuill from graves.
Just had a 2002 Lynch Bages and cannot say I was that impressed with bordeaux. Currently find a BArossa Valley label Thorne-Clark Quartage 2005 a far better buy at $20NZ(pacific pesos) so this 2005 bordeaux better kick butt at $700 for the case.
February 20, 2008

Isaac
QOTD: I will be having Christmas in Italy (Hopefully) But i did find a beautiful wine i adore…La Serra Moscato D’Asti 2006…i love these Moscato wines mainly with 4 to 5.5% alcohol so i can really taste the flavors!!!! I found my nitch Gary!!!!! Woot!
February 20, 2008

Daniel
Shalom from Israel.
love the show, thank you for bringing me and my father closer together. every week for Friday night dinner. I go back to my parents and me and my father enjoyed a bottle wine together.
I’ll have to get my hands on a bottle of 2005 Bordeaux.
thank you..
Daniel from Israel
February 20, 2008

Black Rolf
Thanks for the Canadian heads up!
Congrats on two years, I’ve been watching you from Vancouver B.C. pretty solid for the last 4-5 months and I love what you do. It was awesome to see you taste some wine from my backyard not too long ago(Osoyoos Larose 2003). Keep doing what you do…we love it.
February 20, 2008

YBS
QOTD: Taking advantage of the outer satelites like Fronsac and Blaye. Valrose is a great deal as is L’Hospital, and Citran. I’m digging the 2005, it really is something special.
February 20, 2008

knudwig
Side QotD: Sweden.
February 20, 2008

John S
QOTD 1: Watching From Denmark

QOTD 2: No 05 yet
February 20, 2008

Panos
GV, I am watching from Greece! Very good show!
February 20, 2008

YoungDave
QOTD: With my frugal ways, and the non-existence of shipping to MA when I lived in Boston when you started preaching about the ’05s, and now with the high shipping costs out to CA and how far behind the curve I’ve let myself fall in terms of buying this vintage, I’ve inly got a bottle or two of low-end Bordeaux. Maybe I can be smart enough to snatch some up at my local French wine specialty shop that has always been good to me with values. Gracias once again, my friend, and NO ONE can say that you didn’t give the heads-up on this vintage time and tine again over the last few hundred episodes.
February 20, 2008

David
QOTD 1: I watch from Israel, though I’m an ex-pat with an eye to end up back in the states.

QOTD 2: I’m an overseas student who prefers finding value in kosher wines, so I haven’t really had the time or money to invest in any of the 2005 bordeaux. As the prices seem to be on the getting-out-of-hand side already (and sure to go up), I doubt I will have the opportunity, either. A great vintage may be a great vintage, but if you can’t afford to buy into the greatness, than it’s greatness is still irrelevant.
February 20, 2008

TonyStro
Not “the thunder mug”
If you change from “big ass glass” you gotta go with “the thunder BUCKET” !!
February 20, 2008

Will
Jerusalem, Israel- Still waiting for your Israel trip Gary
February 20, 2008

TonyStro
wow – so many questions today.
Where am I from? Home is VA, but I’m in (god-forsaken) Pakistan until 2011.
Where am I positioned in ‘05 Bordeaux? Waiting for you to ship my:
1 case Chateau Valrose Cuvee Alienor
6 1.5L Chateau Haut Bergey Rouge
6 1.5L Chateau Sansonnet
1 1.5L Chateau Beychevelle
1 1.5L Chateau Smith Haut Lafitte Rouge
2 1.5L Chateau Branon
1 1.5L Chateau Grand Puy Lacoste
1 1.5L Chateau La Fleur De Gay
1 3L Chateau Beausejour Becot

Don’t know if that means I’m in heavy or light. Looking to add some more & maybe some ‘05 Burg & whites. I’ll hit you on email Gar

Mott…link it up!
February 20, 2008

dmg
QOTD: I’m in for 10 cases by 20+ producers. I just hope that I live long enough to get the best out of some of them.
February 20, 2008

joel delon
from south of france and today in Vinisud exhibition in Montpellier currently thinking of designing a more graphic label for a special “cuvÃ©e” we could make for a distributor who seems to appreciate our work and philosophy we met at the wine exhibition… work goes on…
any suggestions ?
February 20, 2008

Alan Z.
HONG KONG (:
February 20, 2008

Billyd
Can’t wait.. as soon as I finished the episode I ordered 3 bottles of Secret from the wined library, I think it will be a great addition to my De Las Hermitage! Looking forward to Tomorrow’s show. Fingers are crossed all over the world.
February 20, 2008

Babbling Blackbird
Shout out from Switzerland.
Just watched your show for the first time and liked what I saw. Keep it up!
February 20, 2008

Susan
Gary-QOTD: have ZERO 2005 Bordeaux but would like some Bordeaux soon………….
February 20, 2008

Dom
I have 5.5 cases, all bought on futures over a year ago. I can’t wait to try them.
February 20, 2008

ciaobarbara
I have one 2005 Bordeaux

Private Margaux reserve – Schroder & Schylers – and have no IDEA if it’s good or not. What do you think Gary?
February 20, 2008

FellaOne
Nice shout out to Domaine de Chevalier, tried the 1998 a couple of months ago. After 10 years it’s still a baby. I can just imagine what the 2005 is like.

Any way you wanted to know where your non-american viewers are from. Sweden is where I live and I know you got a following here.
February 20, 2008

Samuel Paes
I haven’t got any…. living in the 3rd world has it’s cost….
February 20, 2008

Klassh
Canada,
No ‘05 Bordeaux for me. I don’t even know what the market is like in Canada yet. I’m still building my pallet, and there is a whole world to catch up on.
February 20, 2008

Bryant Sousa
Dude, it is the last day to spread the thunder and I am going at it hardcore. I’m an operations manager at a huge hospital north of Boston that has at least 4000 people come through our doors every day. I’m in my usual shirt and tie, but today sporting the wristband brother. I’m bringing the thunder hardcore today. I was just getting my morning coffee and told the nice old lady at the register to bring the thunder…LOL!!! She said ok, you too. Dude, I was dying…wicked funny.

Everybody is asking me about the wristband…LOL!! I actually had a guy pass me in the hallway and said “bring the thunder buddy” I said “No Doubt, tell your friends” This is awesome. It’s making for a fun day. I think I’ll sport the wristband everyday.

Dude, you are the man. Love the show!! Vayner nation is here to stay.

Keep kickin ass with your big ass glass!!
February 20, 2008

Trucbinouche
QOTD #1: Watching from QuÃ©bec, Canada.

QOTD #2: YES very proud of myself for buying 2005 Bordeaux Futur a dozen or so. Should be getting them sometime this spring… can’t wait!

Thanks again GV for another great episode!

GO HABS GO!!!
February 20, 2008

Lindsey
Watching from Madid, Spain…

No 2005 Bordeaux yet Wish I wouldÂ´ve picked some up last summer while I was visiting the area!
February 20, 2008

Irina
Hi! I’m watching from Sofia, Bulgaria. And I can hear the thunder even hier. I cannot find the wines, that you tastÐµ, Gary, but I “trust my pal” and use every opportunity to try a new and different wine.
I wish you and all your team 10 x 2 years “thunder wines” in you glasses!!!
February 20, 2008

John W. Taylor
I had bought one case of 2005 Bordeaux futures 18 months ago.
February 20, 2008

Turd
Hey DMG,

You’ll definitely live long enough to go through your 10 cases if you invite some of us over to help!!!

No ‘05 Bordeaux yet but we’ll get some.

and Trucbinouche, the HABS are going down. GO B’s
February 20, 2008

italianwinelover
QOTD: Sadly I have not gotten any yet…but I will try to find one or two and hold onto them! It may be too late but I will try.

I like the “big ass glass” better!
February 20, 2008

VinoVixen
Good show….I do love a white bordeaux!
QOTD: I have bought 1 1/2 cases of futures from Bordeaux
February 20, 2008

Irv
QOTD:My wife and I have had some of the lower priced 2005’s that have been on the market and have ordered some others that have yet to arrive. Those that we have tried have been outstanding even at the lower priced level. I can’t wait to taste some of the “Big Boy’s”.
February 20, 2008

Omallley
QOTD: My 2005 Bordeaux story? Well…it is non-existent, but I am hoping to change that, one bottle at a time (price permitting, of course ).

QOTD2: I’m a part of the Canadian Contingent – in British Columbia…so I guess that makes me a BCCC?
February 20, 2008

Lb in KS
QOTD… I bought an inexpensive Chateau davril and was really OK with it, so I purchased a few more bottles. Opened another, and it didn’t seem to be nearly as satisfying the next time around?
February 20, 2008

JerseyGirl turned CNY vayniac
QOTD: Don’t have any Bordeaux… can’t really afford it.

Great show today again Gary!
February 20, 2008

Tom G. of the CKC
My position in 2005 bordeaux is limited to two bottles of 2005 Chat Lanessan. It was all my local wine store had left! RP gave it 92 points and I generally agree with his Bordeaux assessments so I went in blind.
February 20, 2008

jim
i listened to gary and caught the fever. i have ordered over 600 bottles of the 2005 and am i HAPPPPPPPYYYYYYYY. bring the thunder
February 20, 2008

Ryan D
QotD: Unfortunately I’ve only bought a couple low end 2005 Bordeaux bargains because frankly I’m not in the market to buy cases of the stuff to hold onto it.
February 20, 2008

ChrisH
I am very excited to try these bad boys. This morning I ordered two bottles of the 2005 Chateau Les Secrets De Cardinale (one to drink one to keep) and a bottle of 2005 Chateau Luchey Halde Blanc. This is going to turn into an expensive little hobby if I’m not careful
February 20, 2008

Jayhitek
QOTD: Unfortunately I haven’t bought any. So sad.
February 20, 2008

LarryTheWineGuy
Prediction to all Vayniacs…..Buy all the 2005 Oregon Pinots you can Find but especially invest in 2005 Washington State Futures…Classic, Classic Vintage in Walla Walla and Columbia Valley… Be Patriotic …This is a real buying opportunity in the Pacific Northwest for that vintage
February 20, 2008

J Crazy
have been drinking a lot of the cheeper VDP 2005 that are available here in Japan.
…
Right, Japan, the country that never gets the shout outs. It’s like I’m the only flippin’ Vayniace in Japan. I even think you gave a shout out to Kenya or some country. What do we have to do over here? Have you tried the crap that comes out of Japan and just written us off as the country that consumes Nouveau before anyone else and that’s it? Or the country that you have pledged to visit but failed to do so?

I must say this was an awesome episode, as are most. But give shout outs to the little guys, those who don’t have birthdays, those who commented for the first time, a “Big shout out to 998-foxrespect_caw_caw” can go much longer than you thinks.
February 20, 2008

stewart l
I’ve never been a big fan of bordeaux’s predominantly because of their price and I’m not a big cab/merlot drinker, but I’ll have to try some.
February 20, 2008

Alex Filip
I am watching the show from Bucharest, Romania.

I had no Bordeaux 2005 but will do soon.

Question of the day: Have you tasted any Romanian wines?
February 20, 2008

hb
Would LOVE to buy a couple bottles of the 05 Chateau les Secrets de Cardinale, but… Wine Library does not ship to Alaska! ARRRRRGH!!
February 20, 2008

wayno da wino
Gee, my Friend……
Dat was a Coooooool Episode !!!! Gotta get me one of dhose “Thunder Mugs”!!

QOTD: Accumilated about 15 bottles of assorted 2005 Bordeaux so far.
February 20, 2008

bobp
sheepishly, I have to admit to having purchased about 35 cases of 2005 Bordeaux futures. It’s Gary’s fault. Or, in 20 years, I’ll have Gary to thank.
February 20, 2008

streamertyer
2005 BDX story? Same story as 2004 in Spain – anything 04 from anywhere in Spain was super. Hard to go wrong with almost anything from France in 2005.

Have been drinking a bunch of 05 Domaine Lafage Cote Sud for about 9 bones. Hard to beat.
February 20, 2008

Rolf Lydecker
Working at a wine store is tough with this great 2005 vintage! I could blow my whole paycheck on some great under $30 bottles, but I’m trying to be good. I have had a bunch of under $20 bottles of Bordeaux, the problem is I can’t lay any down…They all end up empty.
February 20, 2008

James
QOTD #1 – Home is Adelaide in Australia but I now live and watch from London.

QOTD #2 – I dont have any. I’ve always assumed that yound Bordeaux will be undrinkable and would need years in the cellar. I don’t have a cellar so I’ve always avoided them. Time for a change of plan perhaps?
February 20, 2008

BruceP
I have been buying periodically over the past 2 years. My list is as follows (I have generally ordered half-cases of all of these, a few have whole cases, and a few have 3 bottles only)

Chateau Pontet Canet
Chateau Le Gay
Chateau Haut Brisson
Michel Rolland Episode 1
Chateau Branon (3 bottles)
Chateau La Bienfaisance
Chateau Haut Bergey
Chateau Haut Bages Liberal
Chateau Lagrange
Chateau Batailley
Chateau La Fleur de Bouard
Chateau Rouget
Chateau Marquis d’Alseme Becker
Chateau Beaulieu Comtes Tastes
Chateau Le Pape
Chateau Petit Bocq
Chateau Jean Faure (3 bottles)

and just for kicks, Le Secret de Cardinale (as of today).
February 20, 2008

James H
Hello from Windsor, Ontario! I sadly don’t have a 2005 Bordeaux. I got my first Bordeaux (ever) this year, and it’s a 2003. My parent’s got it for me for Christmas. I plan on opening it up on the Christmas of 2008 to enjoy with them. I’m pretty excited!
February 20, 2008

Achilles Mike
I had some of the 2005 in your Christmas pack. The white Bordeaux was awesome!
Another great show.
February 20, 2008

Fiorentina!
Hey Gary-
Great EP.
QotD-
I’ve purchased a few bottles of 2005 bordeaux (mostly from Margaux), but need to find may way over to putting out for a Paulliac, Pomerol, St. Emilion, and Graves. Besides cash, the reason I’m waiting it because I want to see the feedback from the ageability of a few of the wines my store carries (unfortunately, my store doesn’t bring in reps to taste us on the products). However, so far, I’m in for about 4 or 5 bottles!
February 20, 2008

Valentin
I am living in Zurich/Switzerland.
February 20, 2008

chester
i have only bought two bottles of 2005.

ChÃ¢teau Moulin de Lavaud which i ordered during free shipping sale from you and is in my wine cellar now.

CHATEAU BRANON – which i preordered from you

i only have a small cellar and did not want to spend to much money yet on wines i need to store for a long time.
February 20, 2008

Adam
I am watching from Ottawa, Ontario.
February 20, 2008

Micha
QOTD #1: Non-US? Yep, daily lurker from Germany
QOTD #2: 2005? This vintage was great for bordeaux, no question. But also in other regions like the Rhone. We noticed a huge quality-boost there if you compare 04 to 05.
February 20, 2008

Bernie Bearnaise
This was another informative episode full of speculative fever! Since I adore Bordeaux as a region it shows the New World what is possible in special years like ‘61 or ‘66 and ‘05. I read an article in Slate last week that was a rhapsody about a bottle of ‘47 Cheval Blanc. It would be a good idea to explain the different classes of Bordeaux because there is Petrus at $2000 a bottle and Christian Mouieux at $10 a bottle. There is the Cabernet Sauvignon dominant left bank Medoc appellations of St. Estephe, Pauillac, St. Julien (my favorite lefty)and Margaux. South of that you have Graves(Haut Brion)and many good whites there. On the right side of the Gironde and Dordogne rivers you find the Merlot dominant Libournais and Fronsac. The most famous appellations are St. Emilion and Pomerol. There are something like 5,000 Chateaus in Bordeaux. There is a price point for everyone and a 99 point vintage should find the lesser houses or petit Chateaus at their best. For the Premier Crus the prices will be in the stratosphere but the prices drop quickly as you get to the lesser known brands. One of the services that Gary gives us is his own score regardless of what some other famous critic like Tanzer, Parker, Meadows or even Suckling might post. After all, these folks are not in the same room drinking from the same bottle. There will be some variation but a 93 from any of these knowledgable palates is an indicator of excellence and we all benefit. Gary, scores are a good thing….

It might be a good time to try a second label of a big Chateau or dabble in the Cru Bourgeois Exceptionnels like Chasse-Spleen, Ormes de Pez, Potensac, Poujeaux and Siran to name a few. Splurge for Ducru Beaucaillou or try its second label Croix de Beaucaillou. If 2005 is too pricey find a 2001 or 2004 to try as they were excellent vintages. There also exists the nearby Cotes du Blaye and Cotes du Bourg and Cotes de Castillon. If you are a fan of Argentine Malbec then why not try the original from Cahors.

That should be enough territory for 10 episodes. Don’t forget to decant!
February 20, 2008

Anthony L.
Hey, what’s with the public service announcement on the chalk board. LOL

“It’s 10pm, do you know where your “MOTT” is?”
February 20, 2008

docent
SQOTD: Warsaw/Poland ;]
February 20, 2008

Scott EJ
How much does a non-autographed Cardinal go for?

QOTD: About 1.5 case(s) mixed. I like Brdx…but, lean towards the new world a bit more.
February 20, 2008

Jens
As you know, Gary, I’m watching from Copenhagen, Denmark (when are we gonna see you here?).

QOTD: Being a RhÃ´ne ranger, Languedoc lover, I haven’t bought any Bordeaux as yet but am considering it.
February 20, 2008

Karl Laczko
Thanks for the show Gary, and for your SQOTD – U.K., as you know.

QOTD – I’m not, have a couple of entry level basic, a St. Emilion and a Bord. Superieur, but no plans on breaking the bank to get any more.
February 20, 2008

JK Troy
Did you use “you and I” as your example of the least able wine makers? Even “you and I” could make a good 2005 Bordeaux? I think you are greatly underestimating our cumulative skills at making wine. I have faith. I think with your guidance we could be darn good.
February 20, 2008

pedro
So Garry I run a high end wine shop in Healdsburg and NEVER buy wine on line (I run a shop and get cost).
But I sprung for a couple based on your reactions to the wine and yes thats a screaming deal for wine from there and the year and all
QOTD: not good on positioning for 05 Bordeaux,But doing real good on Pinot from Anderson Valley from 05 and the Rhone as well ……and thats what i drink way more than Bordeaux!
February 20, 2008

Greg Stefos
My wife and I received a gift of a bottle of 2003 Chateau Lagnet- Bordeaux Superieur, last summer, from a Brazillian college student, studying in France, that came to the US to be a bridesmaid in our nephew’s wedding. So, we have one Bordeaux.
February 20, 2008

mark
I am watching from “Auld Reekie” (a-ww-ld rrreeeekiiee) a.k.a. Edinburgh (Edinburrru) Scotland (work that out yourself).

Have you ever done a whisky tasting? After your Vodka show I felt you needed to experience it. So come and visit and I will introduce some of my favourites.

Or invite me over…..

Spreading the Thunder word of mouth in the home of the best kind of malt!

Mark
February 20, 2008

boegemann
QOTD: 15 bottles (11 of which ar futures), and wishing I had twice that many. Alas… none of these are whites
February 20, 2008

akellner
QOTD: not very much. 2 bottles of Clos du Marquis and jsut ordered 2 of the Secrets de Cardinale. A bit late to the game…
February 20, 2008

Mikkel Hansen
QOTF: Have had a couple of bottles of 2005, but just discovered Wines form Prioret and have fallen i love. But I guess I will have to shake i off and get a littel frenche….

But the only problem is…. It is pretty hard to getthe wines you try here in Denmark. Could U , now that you are changing things up, try to get like one wine a week that people like me migth be able to find over seas?

Spred the love and bring the thunder!!!
February 20, 2008

Brian Specht
QOTD: I haven’t had anything. But I am going to go out and try some
February 20, 2008

Darren
Had a couple of 05 Bordeaux, but they have not been easy to find. Sadly, the higher end wine stores here dropped the ball, and many of them ignored all the hype since so many recent vintages were hailed as great, so with the escalating prices, they decided to pass. What is it that is said about hindsight again? Anyway, QOTD, 2005 Chateaux Caronnes SteGemme, Haut Medoc, and 2005 Chateau Sainte Marie Grande Reserve. Nothing in the cellar yet, which is not radool.

Edmonton Canada, and thanks for the shout out!
February 20, 2008

Sharolyn
Vancouver, B.C.
February 20, 2008

Peter
Hey Gary, Why was there no rating for the 2005 Pavie in the WS Bordeaux issue?
February 20, 2008

Rebecca Christophersen
Hi Gary,
Thanks for the SHOUTOUT for the rest of the World.
Lots of greetings from Italy!!
February 20, 2008

BF
What if we did take your advice and buy futures, but now you can no longer ship to my state?? D’oh!
February 20, 2008

Adam P
Side-QOTD: Denmark Gary, Copenhagen Denmark! Sipping Aalto 04 – tastes like I would think a random barrel sample would taste like.

QOTD: Havn’t bought any – Being a student, and a lover of bourgogne, I’ve concentrated my cash towards 05 Bourgogne. Also 99 and 01 Barolo and brunello, so sorry to say, havn’t bought, or will buy, a single 05 bordeaux…
February 20, 2008

Derek
Great EP Gary, I am a HUGE fan of 2005 Bordeaux.

QOTD: I have myself a nice little collection from the 05 vintage, about 20 bottles from different producers, nothing 1st. growth.
February 20, 2008

GottaGoDrink
QOTD- I have ordered 33 bottles total, so I am in the 2005 game in a small way at a range of prices. Plus, there is still time to buy more, yes?
February 20, 2008

Seo
QOTD: With the help of wine library, I am in the 2005 game for a few bottles
February 20, 2008

Mack
Yo! I’ve got a case ordered. I guess I need to get some more!!!
February 20, 2008

Eric Skiff
Hi Gary – I watch on my iPhone most of the time so I don’t get a chance to comment that often, but I just wanted to let you know how much I appreciate not only your show, but the passion and vision you bring to what you’re doing.

Your mantra of “because you, with a little bit of me, we’re changing the wine world, whether they like it or not” is seriously empowering – it’s a cause that people can identify with and hook into, and get passionate about helping you with.

It’s even inspired us to take another look at what we’re doing here at clipmarks and remember that what we’re doing has the power to change the world as well and embrace that potential.

So, thanks

In other news, it looks like our mutual friend Tara Hunt is coming out for BarCampNYC3 – any chance we could entice you out for a weekend of hard-core geekery? http://barcamp.pbwiki.com/BarCampNYC3
February 20, 2008

Montrose
QOTD: I have spent every spair penny I have had for the last two years on 2005 bordeaux. (If I had more spair pennies, that might have ammounted to something).

I have gone to every wine shop in town, and no one here has the newest wine spectator. Very annoying. Perhaps you could post some scores from the new mag…
February 20, 2008

Sue Z.
My first wine love was Bordeaux so it holds a special place in my heart. When I began hearing all the ‘05 vintage hype, I took your advice and purchased wine futures for the very first time. And the excitement begins as I recently picked up a few bottles of the early arrivals. I’m looking forward to sharing these special wines with the special people in my life!!! That’s how I will spread the Thunder Thanks again Gary!!!
February 20, 2008

Dave C
QOTD: No 2005s. Still living like a CKC member, but not for much longer.

Gary, you’ve done it. Long time lurker, first time commenter. I just wanted to thank you for over 300 fantastic episodes via iTunes. You mentioned that you may stop doing ratings. Please don’t. You have made it clear that every palate is different, so why not provide us with some kind of qualitative understanding of yours. I am a beginning wine drinker, and enjoy hearing your thoughts on each wine as well as the final score that is the summation of those thoughts.
February 20, 2008

Glen... winecrazy.com
Hey Gary,

How was your trip?

I’m dying to try these few wines from yesterday and today.

QOTD: I have no 2005 Brdx’s……so I’m ready to try them and see what I would like to buy. Need your help.
February 20, 2008

Stan Vasily
O Yes 05 What a vintage. Have bought 3 cases of 750ml from Michel Rolland Episode1 to Pavie 3 cases of Burgandy and 2 more cases of assorted 1.5ml bottles
and still buying at a fast pace !!!! Just bought the wine that your bought out from you !!!!!
February 20, 2008

Brent Marshall
Really enjoying 05s. I did grab a coupel bottles a while back specifically based on yoru advice. I recently have begun to gravitate more toward new world (my Pal is changing), but look forward to letting those bottles alone at least until next fall/winter and have at a good occasion!
February 20, 2008

Peter
Who has the rating on the 2005 Pavie. Its no where to be found in WS.
February 20, 2008

Skol
Got a case of La Fleur Petrus.
Problem I have with Bordeaux is that you need to wait lots of years to really enjoy it at its peak, and I am an impatient person.
February 20, 2008

Lisa
I came aboard WLTV at about episode 350 or so. I just got done watching episode #20…Dude! Who the heck was that guy?? Looked like such a good dooby.
February 20, 2008

Dr. J
You said it! You finally said it! Sweet fancy Moses, you actually called it THE THUNDERMUG! Kick ass!

Gary, you seriously made my day today by granting my small, and perhaps somewhat silly wish, of calling the big ass glass THE THUNDERMUG. The only thing is, I am a girl and not a guy. But, in the grand scheme of things my gender is really not as important as you calling the big ass glass by its rightful name, THE THUNDERMUG. I urge you to avoid listening to those haters who are dissing THE THUNDERMUG. Let it sit with you for a while. Sleep on it. Mull it over. Eventually, with time and contemplation you will come to understand, as I have, that this is its true name.

Thanks again, GV!

~Judy (not a guy)
February 20, 2008

David L
I am not a fan of bordeaux so I spend my money else where. I have been to tastings where people where raving over the wine, me?? Meh.
February 20, 2008

David Masi
To be frank…minimal.The least represented varietals in my cellar are cabernet and merlot and therefore not many 2005s. Three if I am lucky!
February 20, 2008

Dave from VA
QOTD: I feel so bad, but the only thing I have really been able to find so far is some Mouton Cadet! I am looking hard. Might just have to break down and order some from the WL website.
February 20, 2008

Michael Mohammadi
Alright, I finally bit on some ‘05 Bordeaux…
Ordered a few of the following from WL:

2005 Chateau Les Secrets De Cardinale
2005 Chateau Gruaud Larose

Thanks for the recommendation on the Chateau Les Secrets De Cardinale!
February 20, 2008

Giovanni Coppa
GV,

Hello…I started watching your program about 20 episodes ago and have to say that you certainly make wine interesting. Before watching, I only had my bourgeois friends, who “thought” they had good pals, to reference my pal to. I’ve even started to pick some of you catch-phrases like “Sniffy-Sniff” and “let’s give it a whirl” when tasting wine.You certainly know you stuff and I have to say I’m starting to get back into wine after now that I have money to do so.

I actually have a question that maybe you can help me with. Is it possible to buy wine over the internet and have I shipped to Florida? Let me know.
February 20, 2008

Rick from Alabama
buying some more 05’s today from Wine Library! continuing to accumulate (2 cases and counting)…:)
February 20, 2008

Scott
GV:
This was a very cool episode. Please keep up the good work with the light colored shirts. I know I’m a weirdo about this, but I just love how much easier it is to see the color when you swirl it.
I’m glad to see the whites getting some love here, but I’m a little surprised you’ve not talked about how good the vintage was for Sauternes as well…which leads to my answer to the QOTD…

I purchased three total cases of five different ‘05 Bordo futures: one of the five is Guiraud from Sauternes. However, I now have a fourth case on the way: I just snagged a case of the Secret. THANKS for hooking us up!
February 20, 2008

ChrisR
QOTD: I’m rolling in 0 bottles of ‘05 Bord. I’m hoping 2012 will be a big year, b/c by then I should have enough money to buy one case of something special.
February 21, 2008

steve
We had some on my birthday with steak, it was a great cap to an utterly bombastic birthday
February 21, 2008

tarheel17
My 2005 Bordeaux story:
I bought two cases worth of 2005 Bordeaux (Chat Sansonnet, Le gay, Faizeau) from WL waaaay back when you said, “Buy this now! Buy it on futures! It’s great!”
After August of 2007 WL no longer ships to WA state. So, I had to cancel all my orders. Very sad.
I now no longer have any 2005 bordeaux.

The End.
February 21, 2008

Achilleas in Cyprus
QOTD: Gonna try the 2005 soon I hope

Side QOTD: The hot and sunny island of Cyprus.
February 21, 2008

Paulo P.
SQOTD: Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
QOTD: NONE. Any imported wine gets to Brazil with a 100%-500% premium for whatever reasons that is. That is even more inflated if you are talking about a special product (ie. good 2005 Bordeaux). So, a US15 bones (US) 05 Bordeaux could EASILY get to U$90 in here…. no wino, man, no wino.
February 21, 2008

LudwigVan
QOTD: I recently tried 05-Bordeaux. I don’t remember which (I left it in corck’d). I bought it by label and in the upper price range. This wine was really a serious one. ‘05 has so much potential. Buy it, test it, even if it rips your wallet!
SQOTD: Germany.
February 21, 2008

J.ÄŒ.
Gary, stop it!!! ) The 2005 Bordeaux is soooo expensive already and this makes it even worse ) And all the bottles already in the cellar are too young to be drunk now, mouthwatering shows like this makes waiting almost unbearable.
February 21, 2008

SaraMHCRU
I have one 2005 bordeaux sitting on my little wine rack, and I’ve had one or two in the past that were seriously impressive, so I’m anxious to find more. With a small apartment and a small budget, it’s not incredibly easy to stock up, though.
February 21, 2008

Valerie
QOTD: I had the Bordeaux in the x-mas pck, but that is all.

I LOVED the white, and will be looking to buy more of that, if I can find it.
February 21, 2008

Carly
I have had a couple stray 2005 Bordeaux’s that I came across in my local wine and spirits shop. Delicious and actually pretty decently priced. Surprise! I’m sure they won’t be around for long.

I have been enjoying 2005s from other regions of France, though, like the Loire Valley…I had a Bourgeil Cab Franc for Valentine’s day that was pretty bomb (although needed a good decanting…RIPPING tannins!)
February 21, 2008

CHATrBox
Props on the good call with the 05’s. In Washington State the 05 and 06 vintages are pretty off the chart.

QOTD: I’m on a wine buying freeze so none for me. There will always be good wine to buy. No reason to freekout. If you’re into collecting I vote for the ball cards, comics, and action figures. They don’t taste as good but they’re timeless.
February 21, 2008

jimkay
Gary – your enthusiasm for the 2005 Bordeaux really comes through, but it you say “really” one more time, I’m coming to NJ to spay you
February 21, 2008

NADINE
I hope this is the write episode at to the question of the day, lol. My backround is a little of everything and a lot of I don’t know about, lol. I am adopted at birth by an Egytian family and I was raised with Egyptian values although I live in Montreal and sort of combined my own values with Egyptian values, basically I believe firmly in free of will and respect of other peoples lives and choices. Keep wine library rolling
February 21, 2008

Kazappa
Been lurking awhile; time to comment! Do you realize that as fast as you talk, your ’sitcom-length’ episodes contain feature-film amounts of material??? Side question–The Republic of Texas! QOD–none. I’m working on fixing that, however. Thanks for the great episode.
February 21, 2008

docent
Just ordered five bottles of different 2005 Bordeaux after watching the episode
February 21, 2008

Colin
GV – Good show. QOTD – None, and looking…
February 21, 2008

Michael Y
qotd went to a 05 bordeaux tasting and I was soo amazed. Currently at about 2 + cases of bordeaux wines.
February 21, 2008

Obama_Man
Damn, GV! I only picked up 3 bottles of ‘05. STUPID.STUPID.STUPID!!!
February 21, 2008

yowens
GV- throw out a some names of cheap 05 bordeaux for us cheapo’s. QOTD: we’ve got about 5 cases on futures.
February 21, 2008

zerokreap
i have had 2 bottles of 05 so far, and both were killer…and lower pedigree…so it is like you say….it seems that almost anyone could have made a good bordeaux in 05
February 21, 2008

John Funk
QOTD: 05 Bordeaux is now on my list.

Side question of the day…. Winnipeg, Manitoba. Right in the middle of Canada. I think you’d be surprised that pretty much everyone here drinks wine and beer from all over the world.

PLEAAAASE set up a Winelib in Canada. We need access to some quality Vino for reasonable prices.

Peace,
John
February 21, 2008

TennLee
QOTD: I’ve bought a bunch of nearly random 3 bottle sets since I can’t by a lot of different things by the case…
February 21, 2008

WailingFungus
I’ve got a whopping one bottle of Chateau Saransot-Dupre Listrac-Medoc 05… so the craze kinda blew by me. I guess I’m just reluctant to spend comparatively big bucks on wine I haven’t tried and that is young; and then of course there’s the hype which got me suspicious that it might be hard to get good qpr… I’ve been liking 04 Bordeaux for that. As for 05, I guess I’ll just have to trust the judgement of my retailers.

QOTD: Germany represent!
February 21, 2008

pawncop
Great episode.

QOTD not positioned well at all still very new to all of this and had not seen all the episodes.
February 21, 2008

Orville B
Mini QOTD : Calgary, Alberta Canaga

2005: I think most of Canada will not see a bottle

JB
February 21, 2008

Karl B
Hi Gary,

what does it take to be one of your “better customers”? (Check my order history)
QOTD – I have almost six cases on order through the WL futures of 2005 Bordeaux. That is about all that I can afford of a single vintage. The challenge was that 2004 Napa came out at the same time so I had two vintages to chase at once. WL’s pricing protected their customers for the most part, but even WL couldn’t help with the first growth chateau nutty pricing.

Karl B.
February 21, 2008

Gobi
SIDE QOTD: YOU SAID IT GARY… PANAMA!!!!

VIVA PANAMA!

QOTD: Tried getting my hands on some 05 bordeauxs from my local wine merchant and friend who has some contacts in france, some barons or somthing, but due to really really high prices and local Panamanian sanitary laws… I got none … oh well, ce la vid
February 22, 2008

Ivan C.
qotd – Bought 3 cases of mostly value (under $50/bottle) on futures about a year ago.
February 22, 2008

Mr.Ambassador
By the time I pay for my allocations of wine from Washington and California there isn’t much shelf-space or money left for Bordeaux. My cellar is really under-represented from France and my challenge this year is to sample many more “old world” wines and distinguish some favorite regions.
February 22, 2008

ClingF18
QOTD: Case and a half of ‘05 Futures through WL. Wish I could get more now but my wife might have my head!
February 22, 2008

kokoa
my plan this weekend is to go out an get a few bottles of the 2005.. just got a little lucky in my finances. I think this was the episode where you asked where we are from. Tokyo baby!
February 22, 2008

Mathias
Im from Denmark!
and im a big fan of your show
February 22, 2008

missalyse
Slacking hard on ‘05 Bord although I’ve watched all the episodes several times with plans to purchase that never quite came to fruition… maybe one day… maybe today… Thanks Gary!
February 22, 2008

Mike G
Bought 2 cases of Brane Cantenec 05 futures. Loved the 03 and 04
February 22, 2008

Palmer
QOTD: I bought about 4 cases I think. 3 bottles each from a bunch of different producers. The first one just arrived last week. Very pumped!
February 22, 2008

sten foeth
germany
February 22, 2008

ATLIENS
Roll call, big shout out from Roma, Italy, the Eternal Thunder Capital of the world. Just wait until you see how I share the thunder when we hit episode 500!
February 22, 2008

WinÃ˜
Norway.
In fact, how about a shout out to Norwegian vayniacs!? Give a thought to those less fortunate who throughout the entire country can only buy wine from a limited selection offered by the state-run wine monopoly outlets..

IN FACT, if you find yourself needing a show idea one day, how one where you see what (if) we have any wine available in common and feature bottles available to us too? (see sad list at http://www.vinmonopolet.no ) -the “poor Norway” show.

OK in the spirit of brotherhood, make the “poor Scandinavia” show and include the Swedes in the same miserable boat (their equally meagre selection at http://www.systembolaget.se)
February 22, 2008

JOEL M
GV I am bummed. I didn’t act on it. I just never see the value of having to wait to drink a 50 dollar bottle of wine. Knowing my luck I would get a corked bottle of 05′ Bordeaux I spent 75 bones on. I will look around for a couple good buys but not holding my breath on it. By the way, is March 29th still on. Looking to come down and spend some cash. Joel M
February 22, 2008

w2wine
Currently at 500 bottles of the 2005 Bordeaux. I have a couple of cases of the Fleur Cardinale and now tempted to get the Secret Cardinale. Bought no FG but a wide range of wines from top to bottom. Angelus, Montrose, Leoville Barton, Grand Puy Lacoste,Haut Bergey, L’Arrossee, Pipeau. Tried for alittle from each of the communes.
February 22, 2008

life's too short...
Dude, who are you waving to off in the distance? There’s no one really there, is there? Like shooting someone the from the hip hand gun “It’s you, babe”…

Ain’t no one there…that’s weird, bro.
February 22, 2008

life's too short...
DO NOT give up scores. Don’t go there. NOT SMART PLAY. People want the scores. For those of us how associate your palate (have learned wines from you), well, we also work with the number thing now.

Or, go for it. Then we’ll hunt you down and annoy you to death.
February 22, 2008

ScottG
No Bordeaux..should have listened to everyone who said to buy futures
February 23, 2008

Brian Johnson
GV,
Have picked up a couple 05 Bordeaux out here in Hawaii at Costco and a high end wine shop. The Costco bottles are $10 and the others were around $15. Nothing like the prices you’re discussing. Makes me wonder if I don’t have a real 05 Bordeaux. Says 2005 and Bordeaux on it. Maybe it’s just not one of the better quality 05 Bordeaux. Although I did start seeking them out after you said on the one episode about 20 back that you and I could have made an 05 Bordeaux the conditions were that perfect. Will head out to buy the WS issue this weekend.
Don’t get rid of the point rating. I never understood it in stores and magazines, but have a better feel after seeing you sniff and give each a whirl.
February 23, 2008

mikeyrad
QOTD, I’m waiting for my futures to arrive. I think I got a half dozen or so. Probably will get more.
February 23, 2008

GalvezGuy
QOTD: Have bought some on future, very pleased with the first arrivals, the quality is obvious, staying away from the better known chateaus because of the overall quality and the steep price, even on futures. Right now, cherry picking on great 2004 values is what I am doing. There are some steals there right now
February 23, 2008

Rafa
Mexico.
And I do think a mexican wine episode would be amazing!
Also shipping to Mexico… that’s tougher, but please??
February 23, 2008

Scott Breffle
I have a mixed case of ‘05 Bordeaux in the closet now, thanks to you, Gary, for making me aware. Wish I had bought more.
February 23, 2008

Kevin
You asked. I’m in Canada.

QOTD: Um, a little? I have a few bottles, but not enough. I tried to buy a case of something I found that I liked, but guess what, they were sold out…
February 24, 2008

tuscanbob
Very slick move on the ‘05 Bordeaux vineyard buy up. I was happy to be able to click through and buy a couple bottles. I’m putting those away with some other ’05s I’ve got. Can hardly wait for these to reach maturity, but in the words of your countryman Tolstoy: “The two most powerful warriors are patience and time”.
February 24, 2008

tuscanbob
oh, and by the way, did Bob Barker slip into your office and leave a message on the chalkboard?
February 24, 2008

Dan M
Don’t have any 05’s from Bordeaux… never tried one. I’ll try and treat myself to one if I can find one in the future.

I’m from Australia but have been living in Canada the last 6 months, and watching the show from there… I’m writing this message from my hotel room in Hawaii on my way home to Sydney.
February 24, 2008

wannaBconnoisseur
Great show GV!!

People don’t watch the show, they just hangout on the forums?! That is F-ing ridiculous!!

Q- Don’t have nearly as much locked up as I should!!
February 24, 2008

wannaBconnoisseur
Just snagged a few bottles of the Chateau Les Secrets, I will let you know what I think in about 10 years!
February 24, 2008

NeutralAngel
QOTD: Just put a bottle of the Chateau Les Secrets in my shopping cart!
February 25, 2008

Triple_J
QOTD: Only have a few bottles of Lascombes so far. Shooting for a Cos when it comes out at the LWS’s. Just taking it as it comes…
February 25, 2008

PFORTY
QOTD: Weak! Must buy, I’ve been saying that for almost a year now! Ugh! Gotta study to find at least 1 or 2 that I can still get my hands on!
February 25, 2008

kitty and meow meow
Just got my 1 bottle of 05 Chateau Luchey Halde Blanc and my 2 bottles of 05 Chateau Les Secrets De Cardinale!!!!!!!!!!!! i’m so freakin’ pumped to try! many thanks!
February 25, 2008

Russ J
QOTD: Got a few, just so I could be “in the game”. There are a lot of other exciting opportunities out there with the ‘05 vintage, from areas I tend to enjoy more than Bordeaux.

Good show, GV!
February 25, 2008

Pastafari Pirate
QOTD: I have a small 2005 futures order with WL, that I’ll be picking up there in June or July (as soon as the rest of it comes in). Including that Valrose that you mentioned in the episode.
February 25, 2008

Eric
QOTD: My position on 05 Bordeaux. . .Bummed out because I have finally graduated from the CKC, but by the time I have the disposable income to buy these wines, they will be ridiculously over-priced.
February 27, 2008

Chuck C(Bangkok Chas)
Guess where I am from.

Sometimes, you can find a great deal here. Like a 2005 Bordeaux for under $10. It is usually in the Tesoo (like Wal-mart) 2-for-1 bin. All the sales girls here say: strong wine—you like!!!
February 27, 2008

Andre
Brazil !!! Bought a few 05’s.
February 28, 2008

Josh in Burgundy
I am an American, but I am living in a village in the southern most part of the Cote D’or in Burgundy.

I buy the 2005’s here but I just drink them all. That and in Burgundy it is hard to get much else besides burgundy.(like that is a legitimate complaint!)
March 1, 2008

Dan-o
QOTD sub – I am a fan of white Bordeaux. I like to describe it as a beautiful skinny model after she gained some weight. A Sancerre is the model when she has an eating disorder – very lean, crisp and tight. White Bordeaux takes some of the features of this lean person and adds a bit of body!

QOTD – I am not stocked in 2005s. I bought a lot of the 2000 vintage and then I purchased good sized quantities of 2001 and 2002 from the off-vintage (Las Cases, Calon Segur, Comtesse de Lalande, Lynch Bages). Therefore, I knod of got Bored-oh.
March 2, 2008

Andy Kibler
het Gary ..after heeding your praise I picked up five or six good 2005 bordeaux….thanks for the shows on the 2005.. I completely lucked out though on one measley bottle of Chateau L’Evangile Pomerol 2005 at where else??
Costco!!!!!!!!!!! Pre-sale 2 bottle limit in Dec. 2007. I eany meany miney moed it and paid $199.00 for the bottle. It had a barrel rating of 93 to 97 and WS gave it a 100!!!! Very happy about it..I’ll have a special family/friend occasion for it in 10 -15 years from now……….thanks
March 3, 2008

JÃ¸rn Idar
SQOTD; No way, Norway!
QOTD; No Bordeaux:-(
March 3, 2008

latraviata
QOTD: I bought a 2005 Bordeaux a couple of days ago and can’t wait to try it. Thanks for the shout out to all the loyal Canadian fans of WLTV.
March 4, 2008

J-Pipes
side QOTD: I now consider myself part of the Canadian Contingency, even though I haven’t met any of the others yet. But I will, in a week or so!
QOTD: I am relatively UNpositioned with regards to 2005 Bordeaux. My strategy? Make good good good friends who are better at planning ahead with wine than I am!
March 5, 2008

amm3rd
I bot the ‘05 Valrose because I loved the ‘00 Valrose, probably going to buy another case, but too many choices!!!
March 7, 2008

Donna Marie
QOTD: Don’t have enough in the cellar, try to buy whatever I can afford and am influenced by a lot of your recommendations.
March 12, 2008

Jason S.
QOTD: Unfortunately, I don’t have any. I was in school when the futures went on sale and couldn’t afford them, even at those low prices. Hopefully I can pick some up now.
March 14, 2008

StevoVino
Side Q: New Zealand
QOTD: zero bottles of 05 Bordeaux in my cellar
April 2, 2008

Sparky58
I’ve got 2 promises for you. Yes, I’ll seek out white Bordeaux. And, no more lurking! Thanks for the Thunder! Keep it fresh.
May 1, 2008

Matti
SQOTD: London, UK
May 13, 2008

Gary & Ray
Has anyone read the back label of Chateau Les Secrets Di Cardinale 2005?
The last paragraph states it was bottled in May 2008! I bought a bottle and wonder if this typeo is on all the bottles. Let me know.
May 14, 2008

TeeKay
Hi Gary,
Try to get some 2005 Bordeaux’s. I am watching from the Netherlands.
July 5, 2008

jimka
Were are you?
I’m watching from Munich Germany
August 7, 2008

Oakmon's BF
Youâ€™ve done a lot of 2005 Bordeaux shows. You say anybody can make a good wine in Bordeaux in â€™05. You also talk of the prices shooting up. But you focus on the high end. If the hundred dollar bottles shoot up 50%, will the $10 bottles also shoot up 50%? In the fall of 2007 I hit the Bordeaux aisle of the Claymont Total Wines. I picked up about 8 bottles of the red stuff from different wineries in the $10 to $12 range with no regard to vintage (or winery). I think I only made it about a third of the way down the aisle when I stopped because I had enough for one shopping trip. In January of 2008 I discovered WLTV and over the next few months I watched every episode and discovered that 2005 was something special. I then checked my stash and discovered that theyâ€™re nearly all 2005. Iâ€™m thinking, â€œboy did I luck out.â€ WLTV also convinced me that I should keep track of the wines I drink and take notes. Iâ€™m sure Iâ€™ve had Bordeaux before but tonight Iâ€™m having the first one since I started keeping track. So â€¦

Iâ€™m having my first (recorded) red Bordeaux as I rewatch this episode. Itâ€™s a 2005 Chateau Haut-Guillebot Bordeaux. I did a little internet searching and it looks like itâ€™s still selling for about $10 to $12. So perhaps low end 2005 Bordeaux hasnâ€™t shot up over the last year. Itâ€™s got the tannins that I like. Iâ€™m not real good at identifying flavors but itâ€™s not bad. But itâ€™s not good enough for me to run out and try to get more of the same label.
November 9, 2008

Ray Barnes
As almost always a very fun episode, and being a newbie here I just pulled it from the archives. Anything coming from Ch. Fleur Cardinale is a winner so congratulations on procuring that allocation.

QOTD – I have had some 2005 petits chateaux and most of them were very good. One very dissapointing offering was the 2005 Chateau Vieille Tour La Rose, coming from St. Emilion. This was just a very mediocre wine, fortunately inexpensive. A very nice sleeper was the Chateau Pezat, a Bordeaux Superieur from Entre Deux Mers that is owned and vinified by and at Chateau Teyssier in St. Emilion – and very much resembles that more famous commune. I also have one bottle each of Chateaux Giraud, Nenin, and Bahans Haut-Brion.

Surrey BC Canada
January 7, 2009

Dessert Wine Nerd
Great show. Nice to get another 2005 update from you. If I remember I first learned about the “legendary” vintage from you. QOTD: Pretty damn good. I bought almost all of mine from Costco, so I got a good deal over what most wine shops would sell bottles for. Ive got about 6 bordeauxs, and something like 4 sauternes. Couldnt help myself…. Costco has steals…. STEALS!!!