2004 Vintage Bordeaux, A Timing Thing

2004 Vintage Bordeaux, A Timing Thing – Episode #414

February 22, 2008

We are going with Intense Friday instead of laid back Friday because I think there is a real opportunity to learn and exploit a huge oppertunity and I want to make sure all the Vayniacs out there have a chance to score!

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Wines tasted in this episode:

2004 Chateau Clos De L’oratoireSt Emilion
2004 Chateau Haut BrissonSt Emilion
2004 Clos Les LunellesOther Red Bordeaux
2004 Chat CanonSt Emilion
2004 Chateau Leoville Las CasesSt Julien

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293 Responses

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February 22, 2008

purplejuicebruce
QOTD…. I bought the 2000 Toyota Tundra and it is every thing I hoped for.
February 22, 2008

bfrankphoto
Great episode. QOTD: Rookie Ryne Sandberg card when he was three years into his career. $2.

BTW – thanks for the sweet free shipping deal. I was able to buy 5 different wines that I had never had (at least never beyond what the supermarkets had to offer). Looking forward to them.
February 22, 2008

Dr T from N. Carolina
I know I’m looking forward to 2010-2015, or even 2025 (so I have have it when I retire, if I last so long) when the one 2004 I do have might be ready to go.

“T”
February 22, 2008

ChrisR
Thank You Thank You for encouraging me to buy 2005 Bordeaux on future. I bought a couple of mixed cases and have a added a few choice bottles in the last week. I’m going throught the WS mag right now circling all my acquisitions and smiling. There’s nothing like buying amazing wine for a bargain and then watching the scores come in.

Best wine projections: Leoville Las Cases 2004, Cos d’Estournel 2004 both for under $75 on futures. If it wasn’t my son’s birth year I probably wouldn’t have even bought them. I’m thrilled I also bought 2005 Rauzan-Segla and Giscours at Wine Library for an awesome price on future.

I also think that people forgot about 2005 Sauternes (thankfully) since they were so distracted with reds. A 97 PT Guiraud for $55 and that’s a 750 ML!! A 93 PT 750 ML Doisy-Vedrines for $32! (still on sale at WL for that price!!!) AMAZING!! In a short amount of time those prices are going to go through the roof.

Thank You Thank You for holding your prices as long as you realistically could and for still selling 2005 on futures long past when most places are either sold out or holding back for extra profit. You’ve really talked the talk and walked the walk and have made 2005 Bordeaux accessible, affordable and relatable to the consumer. Major Kudos.
February 22, 2008

Brandon T.
A nice one for those who can’t stop thinking how much they’d love to see bordeaux grapes especially petit verdot slathered on the bums of gary and some pretty girls where they recite poems with excellent sexuality
February 22, 2008

Beth
Great show today! I’m a fan of “Intense Friday”, rather than its laid back counterpart. I’ve never had an ‘04 Bordeaux but I’m going to seek some out in the near future.
February 22, 2008

David Dadekian
QOTD: Years ago I happened upon a pair of gorgeous speakers once when I lived in NYC that I got for $250.00. They may very well have been hot, but the guy let me inspect them and took care of me as a customer and I built my first home theater with them. Sometimes you get lucky.
February 22, 2008

Jessica
QOTD: Best gut feeling purchase recently was the wine I bought w/ free shipping (thanks WLTV). Nice deal! And I hopefully got the free wristband I asked for – scoooore.

QOTD for YOU Gary: Have you ever been tasting throughout Oregon? I’ve tasted around Cali and a few other states, and I don’t come across nearly as much kick-ass wine as I do in Oregon (especially pinot and syrah). Hit up some of the Southern Oregon wineries, Gary. I’m telling you…
February 22, 2008

Nick P
G Money,
Great show! Drinking lots of Bordeauxs. Prior to watching WLTV I was opposed to drinking French wines because of their lack of support in the war, but now because of your influence they are the majority of the wine I’m buying.

thxs
February 22, 2008

VinoVixen
GV you are killing my wallet!
QOTD: that you would get the 1000 comments for 412!
February 22, 2008

ryang
Well if we were asked to leave comments for Mott, then I would EVERY day. Contrary to GV’s thoughts.

QOTD: ORCL spring 1999 unloaded almost exactly one year later. that was fun
February 22, 2008

Taylor
Great show today, I dont see how people can watch the show for the 20 minutes and not take the 45 seconds extra it takes to leave a comment w/e.
QOTD I actually just purchased 04 brisson so pretty psyched about that and cobblestone cab rocked it just looked good so we bought turned out to be great
February 22, 2008

Paul C
A gut purchase that really worked . . .

a case of 1989 Lynch Bages for about $60 a bottle in 1993.

That was a fabulous wine.

Glad to see you’re a bit better today.
February 22, 2008

GrapeStuff
Good call on Bdx, GV – the prices are certainly set to explode in the next decade. Set supply, exploding demand.

QOTD: The ‘05 Guiraud on futures at $18 for the half bottles. Looks like that one worked out!
February 22, 2008

randyshakes
Glad you’ve finally done a show about ‘04 Bordeaux. I have been buying these up like mad. A couple of my local retailers think I’m crazy for buying more ‘04 than the ‘03 and ‘05, but I found them to be wonderful wines and the prices are so much better. You hit it on the head Gary.
QOTD: My first house. It was small and cozy and when I sold it, I made enough to buy another that was double in size.
February 22, 2008

SoCal
-700 because of Mott??????
Hell no I ha ma huge Mott Fan …..where is the T-shirt!!!!!
QOTD: My last condo in LA that went up 160 k in 18 months
February 22, 2008

Glen... winecrazy.com
OK, I wanted to leave a comment now. I’ll watch the show later. Hope you catch this one Brother.

Be happy man!!!!!!

What you get to do everyday is a luxury to say the least. Don’t take that for granted. Enjoy and embrace it. Unless of course you have the flu….but it’s seems you are fine. So have fun, enjoy the time you spend there with us on the camera because ME….with a little bit of YOU….we’re changing the damm wine world, and thay can’t do a thing about it!!!!!!!!

Love ya man!!!!
February 22, 2008

TheDumbPhase
QOTD:
I don’t know about the best but I can tell you a pretty bad gut feeling purchase-
I went right out and bought the most expensive HD DVD player Toshiba made as soon as it was released. I just knew it would win the format war!
February 22, 2008

Chandler
QOTD: I bought a German Riesling that was alone on the shelf and marked down to 5.85. Not the best, but better than other $15 bottles I could have purchased.
February 22, 2008

SS Chris
Intense Friday….mmm…I think I like it. Looking forward to this Ep.

Brandon, we should have a vote to come w/ a name to call ourselves….can you set up some kind of voting mechanism. How ’bout Wine Librarians?
February 22, 2008

Diogo da Silva Santos
A couple of thoughts:

1.It can be proved that the price of Bordeaux top reds follows a mean-reverting stochastic process, by studying the last 100 years (considering 2007 prices). I may send you the multi-linear regression that I made if you’d like. It contradicts the “last of the mohicans” view.

2.1990 and 2000, etc have already been considered “vintages of the century”. Wait until the next one and you will see the price behavior referred above.

3.I agree, however, that 04 is a under priced vintage, worth to be sought after.

cheerio mate
February 22, 2008

MrJCG1
You da man!!!
February 22, 2008

The Fanjestic
Top 20
February 22, 2008

DC7
I’ve got an ‘04 St-Emilion Grand Cru Chateau l’Apolline can’t wait till…
February 22, 2008

waibeans
tpo 20