Secret 4 Pack Tasting – Episode #421

March 4, 2008

Today Gary Vaynerchuk tastes through the secret 4 pack. Taste along with Gary and compare your tasting and sniffy sniff notes.

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Wines tasted in this episode:

2006 Le-tendance RoseRose of Bordeaux
2006 Chateau Dereszla Dry TokajiHungarian Furmint
2003 Mas De La Barben La DanseuseLanguedoc-Roussillon
2004 Menguante Garnacha SeleccionOther Spanish Red Wine

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332 Responses

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March 8, 2008

Bill
Hey Gary, great show as ever. Now that you are on the kick about some wines being more approachable a day later (I think in some cases 2-3 days even!), can we please do a show comparing a wine that has been sitting for at least a month (3 better) with the same wine that has – hypothetically – just arrived from being on a shipping truck for a week. I think this makes a MASSIVE difference in many cases, and people who drink wines just after they receive them from, say, Wine Library!!, are totally wasting the investment!!
Bill
March 7, 2008

Larry D
Best show I’ve seen so far. Mostly because you left your prejudices on your sleave. Tokaj sales have spiked, I am sure.
March 7, 2008

Karen
Hey Gary! I just tried the secret pack tonight (Friday). This was my first time drinking along with the show. Loved the Tokaji–especially the new freedom that you’ve given to Riesling drinkers to branch out It was worth the wait! Thanks for keeping it real.
March 7, 2008

Harley Stan
Great show even though I did not buy the secret pack.
March 7, 2008

Tim
QOTD – Great show, even better rant.

I haven’t opened any of my 4 pack yet. I wanted to get the low down and see if there was one I should save for a couple of years, which I will do with the Menguante. I’ve never had a Takaji so I am really looking forward to the Chateau Dereszla.

One complaint re: wristbands; sometimes I don’t watch an episode until a week or so after it first comes out. A little while ago you had an episode with a special alert for anyone who wanted to receive a wristband. Of course I viewed that episode days later, after the offer expired.

Come on, Gary, I leave comments (every once in a while), I bought the Christmas pack (Christmas present for my boss, he really liked the wines), I bought this Secret 4 pack (for ME!, the boss can go pack sand). Can you throw a dog a bone here? Send me a wristband (Please)!!
March 7, 2008

James
QOTD – You bet I did
March 7, 2008

mrzitro
QOTD: yes, the show was great. Loved the 24hr re-taste of the Mike Weir.
March 7, 2008

DARREL LAS VEGAS
Great RANT!
Thanks for trying to get everyone to slow down.
NEW T-SHIRT “NO MORE POP AND POOR!”
March 7, 2008

Charlie Berg
Answer to QOTD: I’ve never sniffy-sniffed Tokaji, but my wife, who is russian, says that Tokaji Eszencia is the most amazing stuff she’s ever tasted.
March 7, 2008

Tim
fyi

Paul Hobbs imports fine furmint from Hungary:
http://www.paulhobbsimports.com/furmint/

and his hungarian partner also publishes his “diary” in english from and about Tokaj:
http://www.arvaybor.hu/blog/index.php?currlang=EN
March 7, 2008

Hungarian_wine_friend
Hi!

A little correction:

Dereszla Dry Tokaji 2006 – this wine is not only made of furmint. It was made of “furmint”, “hÃ¡rslevelÅ±”, and “sÃ¡rgamuskotÃ¡ly”. Both of them old Hungarian kind of grapes.

If anyone would like a dry furmint, I can offer you Oremus “MandolÃ¡s” Furmint 2005. It’s a very nice type of dry furmint.
March 7, 2008

JeffK
QOTD: I’ve only had a Tokaji once, and it was dinner at Michael Mina in San Francisco that they had paired with Foie Gras. Absolutely amazing! I just want to say that I loved this episode Gary! I haven’t been watching long enough to have participated in the secret 4 pack tasting with you, but I definitely want in next time! Thanks for sharing your thoughts, I could not have agreed with you more. In the end, what is a score anyways? Here’s to each and everyone one of us exploring wines that we’ve never had before, expanding our palates, and finding wines that we love along the way!
March 7, 2008

Andy
Did enjoy the show, might have to order the dry furmint, sounds rawkin. I must say though that when you swirl decanters, especially ones that have had wine in them for a long time, it always makes me nervous that you’re going to kill a wine through over-aeration.
March 6, 2008

Boris Jazbec
Gary,

What a great show. A diverse selection to enjoy with the lucky vayniacs who got the secret pack.

QOTD – One of your best shows. Why? Because you not only give a honest look at the wines you are sharing with us all, you also enjoy sharing the passion you have for wine in general. A passion we vayniacs truly enjoy and the reason I and most of us watch your shows.

I hope to find the Tokaj here in Canada. Do ship wine to a U.S. P.O Box. Man I’m tempted to set up such a thing so that I can get my hands on the unique selections you offer. The rose also was very interesting. As a matter of fact all four wines were quite interesting.

I also found your second chance with the Mike Weir Cab/Merlot entertaining. You are on the mark regarding wines from Canada. The culture is evolving in leaps and bounds and there is so much for everyone to explore and enjoy. the area where the Mike Weir wines are created is one of the finest in the Niagara region.

Great great show!!!!!!!!!

Cheers
March 6, 2008

Rhonda
Loved the show. I watched with my fiance who is NOT a wine person and he really liked the Tokaji. I was so excited to see this in the pack because I had just read some books where the characters were drinking this kind of wine and I really wanted to try it. Thanks again for the great pack and this fun experience!
March 6, 2008

Porter
Pull up on them 24’s, while I leanin on the doors
and I’m letting sucka’s know, that I get it for da low

QOTD: I’ve had the Pannon Tokaji Dry Furmint 2004 a few times. It’s killer and only 12.50. It can seriously hang with Eastern European whites at twice the price.
March 6, 2008

Canadian Chris
YA BABY! More Canadian love. You know you wanna come up and see us and get some hot igloo sled dog lovin. erm. ok at least drink some good wine and have some good food. Don’t come up all business in the hizzy bring your gal, book a bed and breakfast for the weekend, tour some wineries on the DL, taste some good wine, have some good food. JoeG, the Kdub crew and myself would be more than happy to show you a good time!
March 6, 2008

JC
Very cool show, even though I could not participate due too health reasons. May next time.
March 6, 2008

Winelynn
HI Gv,
Great show….and I was so happy to check the link and see that you got my wristband pix….
March 6, 2008

Cuse Wino
QOTD_ LOVE ALL THE EPISODES!
Great soapbox rant-so true.
When I buy I keep an eye on the scores but try not to be driven by them. Very helpful when you are starting out.
March 6, 2008

IPv6Freely
Canada FTW!!!

QOTD: Hell yes!
March 6, 2008

Colin
GV – Of course I did! Thanks GV.
March 6, 2008

Andy & Edie
From the hip and the heart Gary, excellent episode! I have always thought the wine I drink tastes better the next day, and I can’t recall it ever tasting worse. Day 4 however has sometimes been a different story. I’ve never had a Tokaji or a Canadian wine and now I’m excited to do so. I had 2 nights of Wine classes here in Billings that were 3 hours long each and phenomenol. We had 10 different whites one night and 15 reds the next next with super good food pairings. Our instuctor owns Bridge Creek Backcountry Kitchen and Wine Bar in Red Lodge, MT. During one of the breaks I asked him if he had heard of Wine Library TV and he said, “Oh, is that Stephen Tanzer?” (Ha Ha!) I said, “No, Gary Vaynerchuk” and he said he had heard of you but hadn’t seen your show yet so I sent him a link to your episode on getting your palate trained which is probably one of my favorites. Got to keep spreading the thunder even though the contest is over. I am also trying to comment on every episode to get your comment counts up and I hope everyone else can try to do the same. Thanks for all your hard work Gary!
March 6, 2008

greg owens
Hey GV- I loved the show. One of your best. I really wish I bought the pack now.
March 6, 2008

Dennis
QOTD: Outstanding show. My wine fridge is filled with wines from around the world. I have my preferences but, I’m open to try any wine from any place. Keep up the good work, Gary!