An Australian Rose On This Laid Back Friday

An Australian Rose On This Laid Back Friday – Episode #475

May 30, 2008

Gary chilax’s this Friday with a Rose from down under and shares some thoughts and ideas

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2006 S.c.pannell Grenache RoseAustralian Rose

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May 31, 2008

paul
My favorite comes from Bandol, but I also have a variety from all over the world. Not a lot of bottles, but a decent selection. Brought a few home from a recent trip to CA, as well.
May 31, 2008

NB_SPAZZ
QOTD: Generic, mass-produced Roses were probably the first wines I drank (a favorite of the girls back in college in the 80s, and why argue with them?) But I drifted away from them for many years (the roses… not the females), in part because of prevailing opinion (not trusting my pal) and in part because I found other, especially red wines, more interesting (trusting my pal). That Beringer white zin became a fave of the older generation of women in my family didn’t help lure me back to pink wines. But, adopting the WLTV mindset, I’ve now got a few non-generic, hopefully more interesting pink wines in the cellar – waiting for a summertime family gathering when I’ll offer them to the matrons and check out the roses for myself. But I’m not popping them for myself… yet.
May 31, 2008

Social Project
Thin show today, but at the end of a taping marathon, who could blame? What happened to answering viewer questions on Friday?

I have some interesting Roses in my cellar, including Kapcsandy, Domaines Ott, and Cameron Hughes did a good one. I tried a Muga recently, and some others. I tend to enjoy the first couple sips, but then Rose gets annoying for me. It’s either watermelon candy or strawberries, and then I don’t get much more out of it. I keep going back, and I keep being vaguely disappointed. (Not very, but somewhat.) Is there real complexity out there in Rose-land?
May 31, 2008

Medo
Tried several Rose (about 15-18 from Germany, Italy, Spain, France, Australia) in the last 2 month and only 2 of them I liked. One was from Charles Melton out of Australia and the other was from Dr. Heger out of the Baden Region in Germany. Nearly the rest was flabby, had no balance or was just thin crap.
May 31, 2008

J Crazy
LOVE love love (times 10) Rose. Abso-f’in-lutely.

I’ve had many many excellent roses from all over (really just within the last 12-18 months or so) that have open mine eyes to the wonder that is pink.
Love Marylin Remark’s (it’s like a %16 rose), Venus from the south of France, Chateau Julien’s Sangiovese Rosato and a whole friggin’ crap load of other roses that are just fantastic.
May 31, 2008

Alex
im down with the pink
May 31, 2008

Withnail
Ate the *exact* same cheese (Gubbeen Neal’s Yard) while watching the show!
QOTD: I like rose a lot and have enjoyed it for years. I drink it year round but heavier in spring/summer. Agree with the comment below that Joie Rose is very good. British Columbia in general makes some good roses. Another current release I’ve been enjoying a lot is the 2007 Quail’s Gate Rose.
May 31, 2008

David Troyer
I don’t know man, I’ve had a RosÃ© from Bandol (Monastrell) and one from Williamette Valley (Pinot Noir) that were two of the best wines I’ve ever had as far as taste to emotions they evoke (which is most of what wine is all about). I wish people would get over the color (pinkish) just like they need to get over screw caps.
May 31, 2008

Rodrigo
Never really tried a decent rose, and my memories are linked to the boxed kind I had during my college days. Will give it a try this summer.
May 31, 2008

Clinton
Joie, from Naramata, BC, makes a lovely Pinot Noir (with a bit of Gamay) rose. The price point is $27 CAD, but I don’t believe much makes it out of Canada, so you can’t compare in US$. I can make sure you get a bottle when you meet with my friends at Reachd while visiting Seattle.
May 31, 2008

joel delon
hi Gary thank you for your focus on rosÃ© wines because here in the Languedoc there’s a huge tradition of rosÃ© wines made traditionally with grenache and cinsault but those varietals are becoming more and more rare but i’m a bit surprised with the color of this aussy rosÃ© seems like a cab franc rosÃ© was it a free run juice rosÃ© ? but those blends gre cinsault pair very well with spicy cuisine have a good we to all of you from south of france
May 31, 2008

JimChem
I love Rose wines as long as they are dry. I don’t want the sweet stuff.

Jim
May 31, 2008

Achilleas in Cyprus
Hate the pink stuff … or rather I did until I tried one from Tsangrides Winery in Lemona, Paphos. It changed my whole outlook on rose wines.
May 31, 2008

ray-ray
Nice Laid back Friday GV…

QOTD: Love Rose, so versatile in potential food pairings and just a great all-round patio wine for summer. Favorite combo has to be Rose with a plate of Charcuterie and Cheese.
Current Rose: Joie 2007
May 31, 2008

248-N8
QOTD: Never tried it because I’ve always felt they were just not really considered real wines for some reason. Although I will admit I am realizing every week it seems like how much I don’t know about the wine world, and how much there is to learn. But with rose wines I just never wanted to try it, but now thanks to the Thunder Show I will be buying my first bottle of Rose tomorrow! I hope my friends don’t laugh when they see me drinking it…
May 31, 2008

Albert
Between Gary and one article in the NYTimes about rose, I took the plunge and bought an AWESOME Tavel Rose from Vidal Fleury. I managed a steal of an 05 vintage and have been seeking another bottle out at the same price of 19 bucks. No luck at ALL! I think it’s definitely become trendy all of a sudden to drink Tavel rose. I saw a few shops in Midtown selling that same bottle for an insane 65 bucks! My girlfriend and I had shared this incredible bottle for Valentine’s this year and she said it tasted like summer in France. Amazing the fruit spoke, it was incredibly full-bodied. Heavier than some of the lighter reds I’ve had and it smelled like strawberry blossom fields where the breeze from the ocean blew across. It was very crisp and razor sharp.
May 31, 2008

Chris in Tulsa
QOTD: I have become a big Rose fan. It’s a easy every day drinking wine that seems to always have a nice nose. It isn’t a complex kinda wine that brings the thunder like I’m always looking for but sometimes I just want a nice “drinking” wine.
May 30, 2008

ChrisV
QOTD: Rose is OK but it’s tough to figure out what its role is. If I am drinking wine for its own sake then I am more likely to want to drink something more complex like a red wine or chardonnay. If I’m drinking wine with food, then rose is a tough pairing. I mean what does it go with? Obviously not red meat or rich dishes. Fish? Not really, I’d rather have a white. Chicken? Ditto. I suppose it pairs with stuff like prosciutto but I feel like most times anything a rose can do in terms of matching with food, a white wine can do better, because a rose isnt usually a good palate cleanser. Finally, if I’m drinking for refreshment, which is when a lot of people say they drink rose, I’m more likely to choose beer. So while I’ll happily drink it if it’s put in front of me, there’s never a time when I think “Man I could really go a rose right now”.

The above is all regarding dry Australian roses. I haven’t tried roses from Languedoc or Provence because it’s hard to get them. Australia is a small country and most people know nothing at all about non-Australian wine, so French wines are a niche market, doubly so for obscure regions like Languedoc, and triply so for obscure styles like roses. In the unlikely event that someone does decide to import wines like these, they roll in at huge price points because the importer needs a big margin on small quantities and because of Australia’s insane 50% “Wine Equalisation Tax”. But mostly you just can’t find wines like this. I’m really keen to try some Loire Cabernet Francs for instance, but they can’t be had in this country for love nor money.

I’m from South Australia, where most of the good Australian roses come from. Names worth trying are Charles Melton, Turkey Flat, Woodstock, and Arrivo’s “Rosato di Nebbiolo”, a very intriguing Adelaide Hills nebbiolo rose. Definitely pick that up if you get a chance as it’s a very different, very good wine.
May 30, 2008

Roberto
a lot of good roseÂ´s around, they are always great with seafood, sometimes even better than good whites…

see ya soon
May 30, 2008

Michael R.
QOTD: Rose is for chicks. This is what has been hammered into my head. But, if I’ve learned anything at all from watching WLTV, it’s to throw convention into the wastebasket. For example, I LOVE drinking white wine, as much, if not more, than drinking red wine. I love fruit forward red wines as well. I’ve learned to love what I like, thanks to this show. So screw other people’s opinions. I try the stuff for myself, and I’m open to quality. I’m going to hit up the wineshop tomorrow morning, pick up some Rose and toast to new horizons.

Cheers,

Michael R.
May 30, 2008

Cliff ("Cliffie") Spence
Roses are like witches
Some are good witches,
Some are BAD witches…..
(Like All wine)

But, if you are caught with a witch in your company. Well you should expect to be persecuted by the masses regardless.

Burn the witch!!!

love the show.
May 30, 2008

WineSnoz
Currently working my way through a case of Domaine du Gouyat (France)Cabernet Sauvignon Rose, I enjoy it on the deck with grilled chicken, pork chops, or ham steak. But, for me, Rose is a summer time wine only.
May 30, 2008

joe
thanks for the shout out to my wifey for her birthday tomorrow mott! i think you’re the real brains behind the wltv curtain!
May 30, 2008

MonkuWino
QOTD: A good rose is a joy to drink. Fresh, crisp, refreshing, fruity – isn’t the point of a good wine something you enjoy? Those who think rose wines aren’t high class or tasteful ought to remember what Charlie Tuna’s friend said to him – Starkist doesn’t want tunas with taste, they want tunas that taste good!
May 30, 2008

BobM
Gary, I’ve only had French rosÃ©s, but I’ve been happy with them and thought they were a good value, with delightful flavors that paired well with lighter fare. When I’m in a restaurant, I’ll always look at the rosÃ©s on the menus.