An Australian Rose On This Laid Back Friday

An Australian Rose On This Laid Back Friday – Episode #475

May 30, 2008

Gary chilax’s this Friday with a Rose from down under and shares some thoughts and ideas

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2006 S.c.pannell Grenache RoseAustralian Rose

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Gubbeen Neal’s Yard

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259 Responses

May 30, 2008

Brandon M
Top 5 is Lame!
May 30, 2008

Brad
Happy Friday!
May 30, 2008

Eli2Tyree
Wow top 5 again
May 30, 2008

Dr T from N. Carolina
TGIF
May 30, 2008

David Cole
I like Rose’, it’s made with many different grapes depending on the area, but for the most part this is the time of year, I like them. Great to sit poolside or out on the boat relaxing with friends. I just had a good one from Frogs Leap and reviewed it on Cork’d. I also like some of the rhone style ones I recently had in the Paso Robles area.

Good luck in the travel and book signings!
May 30, 2008

McAdamSandwich
Laid back Friday’s are awesome. Love it.

I had a great Rose the other evening at an Italian restaurant. Too bad I can’t rmember which one it was..
May 30, 2008

Collin
Rose is the best of both worlds. The acidity and refreshing characteristics of whites for those hot summer days, but also the light fruit flavors of the reds to make them so food friendly. Great warm weather porch wine.
May 30, 2008

Adam A
top 10!
May 30, 2008

emil
QOTD: I love Rose by itself or with appetizers, but it’s too on the fence to pair with a main course.
May 30, 2008

Brad
Haven’t had a rose yet but I’ve got one on deck. I asked about a compromise between the big, dry reds that I was drinking and the light, sweet wines my girlfriend liked and was pointed to Toad Hollow Pinot Noir Rose. Like I said, haven’t tried it yet and have always stayed away from the pinks because I was trying what I presumed were more “serious” wines, but the Toad Hollow is in my closet and waiting to be opened. Thank you for WLTV, Gary. I really appreciate it.
B
May 30, 2008

Collin
PS – Miner Family “Mendocino” Rosato. Go to the web site, buy it, it will be a new favorite.
May 30, 2008

Adam J
I realy enjoy these chillin episodes, nice chat. As for the Qotd: I really enjoy most of the dry roses that I consume. The aromatic factor in some of them is my favorite part. I drank a sangiovese rose from Iron Horse in Sonoma that had probably one of the most memorable smells of any wine to date. Every now and then though, I have dry roses that seem incredible wierd and unpleasant, like they were trying to be reds and got very “off” smelling and tasting. Anyway, thanks for the show!
May 30, 2008

James
Villa Wolf Roseâ€™ de Pinot Noir is a Rose I have liked very much. Pretty dry and crisp. I hate sweet wines generally, but a friend at Martignetti’s (big Boston wine store) helped me out and put me on. I’ve had Syrah rose’s and thought they were too too dry. I liked the grenache rose’s I’ve tried so far too.
May 30, 2008

chenin
south of france is the place for rose
May 30, 2008

theemptyglass
QOTD: I’m sure there are serious roses out there, and I’ve had a few that I’ve liked, but when I am at the wine shop facing the racks of wine, I always feel like Rose is a gamble. Many of the Roses are marketed with the stereotype in mind, for people who want sweet simple wine. I remember being really annoyed when they pushed rose around Valentine’s day, like “buy me not because I’m good but because I’m pink”. And even now when I see one at the store, I have no idea whether that particular rose was made for the girlie girls or for drinkers like me. Why would I risk my $10 on that then on a Malbec that I know I’m gonna love? Thats where I am at Gary.

PS: I miss your FAQ’s on Friday, are you gonna bring that back?
May 30, 2008

portland guy
Just can’t seem to get excited about rose’. Think it’s a mental thing. We have them in the cellar, particularly pinot rose’, and drink them on a nice, warm summer’s day, but …………… not a fan.
May 30, 2008

E
Last rose was the CSM dry rose from episode 270 … didn’t much care for it the first night (too much alcohol, not enough acid) but it was just wonderful the next – vivid watermelon without the sickly sweetness. Not bad really.
May 30, 2008

Loweeel
Top 20! Speaking of Aussie Rose, now that we have a few years of WL, how about comparing new vintages of the same wine. On top of the PS I keep pestering you about (and that Oliverhill is GREAT), I’d love to hear about the ‘07 vintage of the Turkey Flat Rose.
May 30, 2008

bobp
we drink cases of dry aromatic fantastic rose every summer…. if you can get your hands on Robert Sinskey Vin Gris of Pinot Noir try it….

also helps if you’ve ever had the good fortune of having a bottle of rose for lunch in Provence…. because once you do – every single sip after that will remind you of it.
May 30, 2008

Brian
Never had anyway Rose but would love to try some…hmm may have to go find one
May 30, 2008

DirtWineKen
Not a big rose fan but they get props on being my transition from soda-pop wine concoctions forty years ago (c’mon we all drank ‘em at the beginning — remember Yago?) into serios wine appreciation. Those from Tavel and Anjou stick in my mind as my favs.
May 30, 2008

Len
Rose just doesn’t do it for me although will have it on occasions during the summer as a change of pace to chardonnay…could be I haven’t found the right one..in any case, GV take it slow and steady…have fun on your trips and good luck with the book signings.
May 30, 2008

RichG
Like Rose in certain situations. I have one I like called Scarlet Nights (50% Cab & 50% Chard)….good stuff.
May 30, 2008

Zinny
I love dry rose. I recently tried the 2006 Schlossgut Diel Pinot Noir RosÃ© de Diel for a whopping $30 bucks and it was awesome. $30 bucks is a lot for rose but I have to say it was good.

A sparkling rose that kicks major ass is Lucien Albrecht Cremant d’Alsace Brut Rose.
May 30, 2008

Pete G
ROSE ALL THE WAY!! Great wines – not just in the summer. Keepers: Il Mimo (rose of sangiovese, Itlay) Krios (rose of malbec, Argentina) Turkey Flat (rose of shiraz, Australia).
May 30, 2008

Cabrilla
I like rose, but agree that it tends to be a gamble when buying untried ones. Will it be an evocative knock-out? Will it be sweet? Will it be meh? I generally go SW French to mitigate the risk (that, and because I like SW French wines, and because I have a Gascon dog….)
May 30, 2008

C-Fiddy
I like it all,
(except the bad stuff)
I think I’ll open up a rose TONIGHT!
or this afternoon.
Have a great weekend everyone!
May 30, 2008

BargePlus
At home and especially on vacation, rosÃ© is a no brainer for dining outside at lunchtime as long as there is a hint of warmth. And rosÃ© is also a good choice for the evening meal during the long summer days. In short, for us, there is a direct relationship between sun & warmth and rosÃ©.

And you gotta have both: RosÃ© during the summer AFTER the sun has gone down just doesn’t cut it, and rosÃ© in the winter even when the sun’s in full swing is not a winner either.

Just picked up a book entitled “Extremly Pale RosÃ©” about a couple’s quest to find the palest bottle of rosÃ© in France. Along the way, they supposedly discover that the “RosÃ© Revolution” is already in progress.
May 30, 2008

April
I have never has a rose but i am new to wine, but it will be something i will have to try.
I also wanted to say thank you for the show I have been interested in trying wine but i haven’t had anyone to help me, but watching your show has helped me realize it does not have to be so serious and that i should just pick up a bottle and try it. So thank you for that
May 30, 2008

CindyW
QOTD: I’ve tried many roses, and while I have nothing against the pink. . . I’m still searching for one that really does it for me. So far, they’ve all just been okay. The most interesting have been cab franc roses.

Have fun on your book tour!
May 30, 2008

DFC
QOTD: I like rose’ during the summer months….
May 30, 2008

jason
qotd
i am diggin’ the rose. not all year round, but it is getting to be rose season. my wine store has some dom. ott that every body is telling me to check out. my mom has some calon segur rose that i am waiting to drink this summer. i still mean to try the rose from pibranon, pradeaux and chat simon. not cheap though.
also, there is this thing going on about aged rose… 10, 15 year old rose. crazy

BTW, gary, maybe some wine from the jura would go well with that cheese ; )
have a good weekend
May 30, 2008

jason
ahh, i forgot, the last really good rose i had was a syrah based rose from yves cuilliron. so friggin good and at 7 euros, yum
May 30, 2008

Sarah L
I am a big fan of rose. I particularly like roses that have an oily quality to them. What scares me about rose is that I often don’t know what I’m going to get and I’m afraid it will be sweet or bitter. I have been disappointed in probably every US rose I’ve tried. I have better luck with the french roses. I love Tavel.
May 30, 2008

AAR-ONE
I live in Chicago, and when you check out vineyards along the Lake Michigan shore, you pretty much have to try some roses and some fruit wines. You encounter some pretty unspectacular or downright bad stuff, but you also find some surprises. One example is M. Lawrence SEX Brut Rose from the L. Mawby vineyards.

This guy, Lawrence Mawby, makes only sparkling wines, and they are great. Strangely, everybody loves SEX. Hard to believe, right? It seems to please everybody. I like dry, crisp, brut sparkling wines. My wife prefers something a little sweet, a little softer. SEX satisfies both of us. Damn, I wish I had a bottle of SEX right now.
May 30, 2008

jseeds
Love em. Esp. Pic St. Loup ROCK the rose. I want to try the Tempier Bandol Roseone of these days…but hard to choke up the 30 bones for a rose…
May 30, 2008

Dave J.
great show….i’ll be seeking out that cheese.

i enjoy a rose every now and then. i’ll admit that it’s usually not my first choice due to the fact that my experience with them has been quite hit or miss. however, last week i did crack open a bottle of the barnard griffen sangiovese rose that one of my sales reps dropped off, and i was definitely digging it.
May 30, 2008

Smahlatz
I grew up in Australia, and in the 70’s it was all wine in a box, or Chateau de cardboard as we used to call it. Much of it was riesling if I remember correctly, though I doubt I do. When I first started sampling wine in the mid to late 80’s, of course I started with cheap white wine in a box. It put me off white wine for a long time, and rose only ever reminded me of that. Later on, I got into more refined wines, though only red, I was still scarred. Now I am going through somewhat of a wine renaissance, and the white wine is back on the menu, I guess that means I should give rose a go also
May 30, 2008

dcseven
Try Barboursville’s wines: their Vintage Rose’ – a true rosÃ© of Nebbiolo, blended with components of Cabernet Franc and Sangiovese. Thanks to winemaker Luca Paschina from Piemonte.
May 30, 2008

Neil
I enjoy rose during the summer months along with a good picnic.
May 30, 2008

Neil
Josh Raynolds gives everything a 90 point score, doesn’t he?
May 30, 2008

Greg B
Big G, Great stuff when your just chillin covering your Sched….

QOTD: Rose kills in the Spring & Summer. It’s a great chill by the pool while taken in the rays kind of Wine.
May 30, 2008

Robin C
QOTD: I have a prejudice against rose wines because I had roses on two occasions and was so sick I thought I’d die. And this went on for hours. And both times it was on social occasions where others were having fun and chatting and playing games around me but I was only dimly aware of it. They were cheap sweet roses to be sure, but I still am very uninterested in rose wines. Sorry.
May 30, 2008

Omallley
QOTD: I’m a huge fan. HUGE fan. I’ve tried many different styles from many different regions (roses from British Columbia, California, Italy, Spain, Australia, New Zealand) but most of my favourites seem to come from the southern Rhone (including, but not limited to: Tavel, Lirac, Cotes-du-Rhone, etc).

I love how well they pair with a large variety of summertime meals – from lighter vegetarian fare, to heavier/garlicky dishes. Or, great for a picnic, or a weeknight patio drink. And, for the most part, they are very well priced, and a great place to look for good to excellent QPR.
May 30, 2008

amgryger
QOTD: I’m always open to rose. A couple standouts are the Heredia Rioja Rosada, which is unreal, Edmunds St. John “Bone Jolly” Gamay Noir Rose, which is absolutely delicious, and the nebbiolo roses that I occaisionally run across.
May 30, 2008

Fingerlaker
just finished some rose of cab franc last week.. pair very well with a sw mac and cheese we had.. the wine almost had a bit of spice to it.. loved it
Anthony Road rose of cabfranc. (actually a fairly decent fingerlakes red?)
May 30, 2008

billyg
Love the pink stuff on a hot summer day. Rhone varietals (whether made in Australia, California, or France) are my usual choice. I need to try a few rosatos.
May 30, 2008

Kristen
QOTD: Mmmmmm…I love rosÃ©s!!! Especially Provencal ones. But I had this really good sparkling Malbec rosÃ©- the Alma Negra. RosÃ©s are so underrated, but I understand why people can hate them if they’ve only had gross ones.
May 30, 2008

J-Pipes
I am quite fond of rose these days. There is a lot of variation in that classification, and I’m enjoying trying rose made from different varietals. Rose is awesome fun and why not enjoy the pink?!
May 30, 2008

hugh
I like Rose, just dont prefer it…
May 30, 2008

STEVERINO
Dude GARY V…Lovin the black shirt, lookin good my friend… Gonna meet you this tuesday at AMERICA’S here in the big TX. You better be ready cause my posse and i are gonna bring some SERIOUS THUNDER!!!

can’t wait..

cheers
May 30, 2008

xtrmtrk
I have a really hard time picking rosÃ© wines. Sometimes I love them and sometimes I hate them and I can’t quite figure out what characteristics I like and should look for.

My all time favorite rosÃ© was a merlot from Mount Difficulty in Central Otago, New Zealand. It was a beautifully rich flavored wine that paired ridiculously well with roasted chicken. Unfortunately they don’t make it any more. I’ve also had some Pinot Noir based rosÃ©s that were pretty nice – the Soter is pretty nice (but oh so pricey) and a couple Tasmanian pink pinots have been good.

But there are a lot that I don’t like. I don’t think I’ve found a pink Italian yet that I like, and I know I haven’t found any California rosÃ©s I’d buy again. I guess I don’t know enough yet to buy rosÃ©s with any confidence.

I’ll have to give grenache a try.
May 30, 2008

Dan
Wolffer’s 2007 Rose on Long Island is currently my favorite rose. I bought a case for the summer.
May 30, 2008

Scott EJ
I need to get on board w/the Rose’s. I think I was down on them because the last few I’ve had were out of a box and were really shyte.

I’ve made it my mission to start spreading the pink love. And have some Rose while I’m at it.
May 30, 2008

SJR
For a bunch of years I was stuck on E & J Gallo White Zinfandel… the first vintage I tried was probably a 2000 and was the best of the lot. I noticed with subsequent vintages I wasnt so hot on it… maybe just my tastes changing.

Anyways, now I am strictly a red drinker… sipping on a glass of East Dell Estates Black Cab just now… a mix of Cab Franc, Baco Noir & Cab Sauv.

Cheers!
May 30, 2008

purplejuicebruce
QOTD….Petite Sirah
May 30, 2008

manonthemoon
Have nothing against the pink, but though I have tasted dozens and many are okay, they just don’t bring the thunder that I am looking for. Of course I tend to like bigger wines, so that already gives them a disadvantage.
May 30, 2008

KyleLikesTies
Gary, a big request: when you taste cheeses, would you mind commenting / explaining a bit about the texture in addition to the taste? The Irish cheese that you tasted today looked semi-soft, but it’d be nice if you said something about the mouthfeel, etc.

QoTD: I’ve only ever had a few ros’es. I always find them a bit confusing, but I’ve not had any that really struck me one way or the other … And with so many reds and whites remaining to be explored, I just walk past the pink stuff when I’m wine shopping. I’ll give one a try again some day soon.
May 30, 2008

laurie in VT
I’ve enjoyed the roses that I’ve had. I think they are unfairly ignored and under-appreciated. I’m also thinking it’s been too long since I picked one up…
May 30, 2008

Dave H
At this point I think pink wines are overplayed. (Still ones at least; pink bubbly is frequently awesome.) I think plenty of whites deliver crispness with more balance and complexity–and just more ways to be interesting–whereas I see tons more interesting things coming from fresh, light reds designed to be drunk somewhat chilled, like some Beaujolais, or Jura reds. (Jason’s suggestion of Jura white with the Gubbeen is a good one. In fact, Gary, why not a show on the Jura? Do something a bit off the beaten path for once!!)

And I’m not sure I get the commandment that we have to spend all summer drinking rosÃ©. Maybe I don’t drink enough wine outside, or something.

Having said that I just dropped a fair amount of change ($33 maybe?) on a bottle of F. Cotat Sancerre RosÃ©, and I’ve got darn high hopes for that. (Mostly on the strength of a ‘95 “Les Monts Damnes” I had recently which seriously kicked ass. Perhaps I should have picked up a white for a couple bucks more instead of the rosÃ©, but the 13 year old bottle was so good I would have felt guilty drinking one younger.) Certainly there’s no reason still rosÃ© can’t be great wine, just most of it doesn’t hit my palate quite perfect. Not to say it isn’t worth having every once in a while.
May 30, 2008

IPv6Freely
To be honest, the rose I just had last week has been the one and only wine I’ve tasted in my little experience with wines that I’ve actually really enjoyed. Reds were too dry, whites were very acidic, the rose was very clean.

2006 Beringer btw
May 30, 2008

Michael S
Great Show! I personally like rose especially Schilcher. I donâ€™t know if you had a chance to try this it is made form the grape varietal “Blauer Wildbacher” and goes great with meats and cheeses.
May 30, 2008

Eric R
I am open to rose, but I admit that I am just now beginning to learn about them. I picked up an inexpensive bottle of Domaine des Karantes Rose des Karantes from Languedoc that I will try soon. After this show I think I will try a rose that is more has a higher percentage of grenache to compare with this one which is more of a mourvedre-based blend.
May 30, 2008

abCAwine
Nice show Gary!

We love roses!
May 30, 2008

pawncop
Love the show.

Thoughts of Rose wine – have only tried it once, was served as a dessert wine(Banfi Rose). It was Ok,. My knee jerk response would be it’s a girly wine. I have come to understand that I need to look at it a little closer.
May 30, 2008

Kevin
My wife and I really dig the Bridge Lane Rose (made by Lieb, a winery on Long Island’s North Fork). It’s turned us around on Roses…
May 30, 2008

Robert Howells
If people just understood that rose is free run juice from red grape varietals(Syrah,Grenache etc..)and it is fermented without the skins, maybe they would be more inclined to take their head out of their ass and give rose a whirl.If they still don’t like it they can go back to chugging Yellow Tail.
May 30, 2008

tom
i noticed that GV didn’t spit out the cheese!
May 30, 2008

Ryan W
QOTD – I always thought Rose and White wines were just too sweet and not for me, but I have gone a 180 on them and am all about all wines. Except for maybe Arbor Mist….lol. I have not tried a rose yet, but it is on my list.

Ryan
May 30, 2008

Micha
Well, there are very few Rose-wines, that i really like. Best so far was the Enate Rosado, a 100% Cabernet Sauvignon Rose from Spain (Somontano). But most of the time, i prefer whitewines. In Germany the Rose is small but constant niche , esp. in the summertime. The funny thing is, Rose is much more requested at the sparkling-sector! There it’s coming strong.

Greetz from Germany,
Michael
May 30, 2008

Andrew Z
QOTD: My wife doesn’t like white wine, so rosÃ© has become my white wine substitute. It’s become a fun challenge finding quality rosÃ©s to go with our food choices during the summer months.

So far, my favorite rosÃ© has been a 100% cabernet franc rosÃ© from Ash Hollow (Washington).
May 30, 2008

Phil G
QOTD – I like pink wines, I feel they are great matches to so many appetizers, salads, and light meals. By the glass, I also feel that I can get a good value in a restaurant…
May 30, 2008

JoeShmo
QOTD: im under the impression that rose wines might be a bit to sweet for my taste but to be honest ive never really had a rose and i know that doesnt make my opinion valueable, BUT got paid today so im gonna go out and get me the rose from today, i think a dry rose could be something that would be up my palettes alley. im still very new to wine and expanding my palette, hopefully this summer i can work on that.
May 30, 2008

sharon
qotd: I don’t know they just don’t do it for me. I like the color, though, it’s very cheerful.
May 30, 2008

bh
qotd: honestly, not doing it for me. i’ve tried rose after rose, and it just never does it for me. just not my style, i guess. i never stop buying and trying them – i still get a handful a year anyways – but i don’t get my hopes up, and i never get blown away.
May 30, 2008

John Farrin
QOTD: I remember drinking cases of a Portugese rose called Douro Fathers in the late 60’s that we bought as CKC’s for 89 cent/bottle. We all loved it and thought people were nuts to be paying $2.50-3.50 for Lancer’s or Mateus Bought my first rose since then last winter for Thanksgiving. Now, if I can just find that 89-cent type QPR again….
May 30, 2008

Linderelli
My uncle LOVES white zin and white merlot, and for that reason I typically would shun the roses of the world. BUT a friend and colleague who is a wine maker produced a 50% Sangiovese 50% Mourvedre Rose this year, and it is really incredible. Trio Vintners – Tres Rose. Fantastic, off dry, with just enough oomph for those warm summer days. (Oomph = fruit)

After enjoying a bottle my dad demanded a bottle for said uncle who I did not think would appreciate it. . . . but that’s just wrong, he may love it, regardless of my definition appreciate.

PS – if you can enjoy it with CREOLE food, do it.
May 30, 2008

Don Reynolds
Summertime is when I start thinking more of Rose than at any other time of the year. I recently bought a bottle of “Little Black Dress” for my wife which is a Syrah that I ended up enjoying very much myself. I definitely dig rose wine. Good show.
May 30, 2008

Tom P
QOTD…

Have not had rose it a lot of years… actually cannot remember exactly when. That being said, might consider trying them again, might be something for the summer as my wife gets headaches from many whites.
May 30, 2008

Tony
QOTD: I cant remember having a rose in a very long time – I guess it seems a little girlly to me to sit at a resturant and order a pink wine. But after seeing 2 or 3 shows on WLTV on rose I’m very interested to try some soon.
May 30, 2008

Oklahoma Michael
QOTD- Yes I do like dry rose, however, when they are mediocre they plain suck. Rose for me has to be great or crap. Take Dom. Tempier on a warm day this wine has the complexity of a red with the refreshing goodness of a crisp white. ps. another thing her in the states we have a complex with pink wine. get over it already and try some Sola Rosa already. pps. anyone trying to say anything bad about Rose bubbly is voted off the island
May 30, 2008

Aaron S.
Eww back in the glass?

I know the song you were playing, it’s a mash-up between The Verve’s Bittersweet Symphony and Jay-Z’s Dirt Off Your Shoulder, right? In my iTunes I have it titled as Bittersweet Dirt.

Yeeeaaaaah ï£¿-TV baby!
May 30, 2008

Patt
Think Pink!
QOTD just have to find the a decent price point, but a dry Rose` is where it is at now. Maybe a 2006 MÃ©nage Ã Trois RosÃ©?
May 30, 2008

Antony
Rose can be good. I don’t really feel that the pink thing plays so hard against it. I mean, you really got to be some kinda idiot neanderthal to be put off something just because it’s pink. Erm… why not?
May 30, 2008

John
QOTD – I’ve loved the few rosÃ© wines I’ve tried. I had a wonderful French rosÃ© a few weeks ago. Can’t remember the name of it off hand, but it was a 2004, very crisp, was good with some old white cheddar.
May 30, 2008

brorjace
I do enjoy dry rose, but its a little harder to persuade people in the midwest that white zin is not all there is. Australia and Spain are my favorite rose places.
May 30, 2008

tendollarbill
I’m not a big Rose fan, but I still open a bottle every once in a while. My father in law loved the stuff and now that he’s gone, drinking it reminds me of good times together.

Good luck with the book tour- I look forward to meeting you on the 26th in Rockville, MD.
May 30, 2008

John
QOTD: Had a dry tempranillo rose the other weak. Funny, it also tasted a bit metallic. I like the pink but mostly with food. I rarely drink it by itself.
May 30, 2008

joegz
Pink got a bad reputation from the overly sweet Beringer White Zinfandel and Franzia craze in the 80s. I am very biased to the Provencial Roses and can’t get enough of them in the summer time. I wouldn’t pair with natural sweet fruits as it just seems to lose its umph in the palette but great with other foods especially goat cheese.

IMO roses doesn’t compare to whites as there is just too much of a structure difference so they stand very well on their own in their own class.

Haven’t dipped into the roses from Spain or Australia (did I mention I was biased) at all but think will do a little blind tasting this weekend and see if I can become a convert to the non-Provencial labels.

Thanks GV!
May 30, 2008

italianwinelover
Have not explored the rose as much as I should. Like the ones from Italy I’ve tasted.

When are you coming to Chicago? Its not listed???? I would like you to sign my book – was going to drive to Des Moines but Chicago is closer!
May 30, 2008

AndrewG
It’s odd I have some gut reaction that I wouldn’t enjoy rose wines. This spring and into summer I’ve been trying more of them, and finding that if I ignore the pink color I’m finding them really quite refreshing in the heat. Just further goes to show the need to constantly break down the preconceived notions. I think the most recent rose I drank was from Evesham Wood, though I can’t recall what they called it.
May 30, 2008

Donna Marie
QOTD: I LOVE Rose wine. My favorite was the 2005 Bastianich Rosato. Perfect balance. I also enjoyed Nellie’s Garden from Chateau St. Michelle. I like Spanish Rose’s better than Provence, the Tavel Region. I’ve had Australian Rose and the Italian Mimi Rosato, but still prefer the Bastianich and Nellie’s Garden to those. I would like to try the Susanna Balboa and Henry LaGarde from Argentina. I bought a bottle of Leah? or Lea but haven’t had that one yet. Also Robert Sinskey makes a nice one. One of the best things about Rose is that they pair so well with so many different foods and are inexpensive.
May 30, 2008

mrzitro
AMEN!, Robert Howells
May 30, 2008

Chateau_Plonk
I was really into rose a couple of years ago, but have gotten a bit tired with it. I still like it though, particularly grenache dominated ones from southern France. Anymore though I usualy just drink them with light foods and use crisp whites for my porch sippers. It’s nice to see though that people are discovering that pink does not just mean insipid white zin.
May 30, 2008

Katherine
LOVE dry Rose wines. I didn’t really start drinking them until I started watching WLTV, so the credit goes to you.

BTW, my books and our wristbands arrived on the same day… we’re so psyched! Vivian loves playing with her new wristband.
May 30, 2008

Gary Worrell
I am a big fan of rosÃ©s. Washington State produces several rosÃ©s that I like. Just recently found your website and my goal is to go through all the episodes. So far, I have reviewed about 25. Hope to see you in Seattle.
May 30, 2008

Kev and Ams
QOTD: I like Rose, but I generally like them more served “Gary-style” (room temp).
May 30, 2008

elliottf
QOTD – When I first started getting into wine rose scared me because I immediately associated it with boxed wines. Now though, I’ve tried some amazing Grenache based roses (from the Rhone and now Santa Barbara) and can’t get enough of these complex and tasty wines!
May 30, 2008

Dave
Sorry, Gary. I’ve gotta claim ignorance. The only pink wines I’ve ever tried were Mateus Rose and Boone’s Farm in my youth, and White Zins. As a result, I’ve carried a negative stigma about rose all my adult life. I’ll give them a whirl this summer on the patio with my wife.
May 30, 2008

Karol
Always a little afraid of trying Rose – something about the Kool Aid resemblance but I think I’m going to have to give it a try.
May 30, 2008

Shannon McMahon
Alright, I am coming out from lurkerville for this one, Gary.

I have tried about 4 different rose wines (all but one at restaurants), and have been incredibly disappointed with their taste. So much so, that I am hesitant to try one ever again.

Come on, even your nutty cheese beat out this wine.

Shannon
May 30, 2008

Sep
I do love a good rose, but it’s a category that hasn’t been explored very much.
May 30, 2008

Keith
I’ve only tried one rose, the Montes Cherub Syrah from Chile. I thought it was betwixt and between, neither here nor there, just didn’t make sense to my palate. It reminded me a little of a sauv blanc of all things, and made me want to get a “real” sauv blanc.
May 30, 2008

Paulo
QOTD: Like rose very much, mostly Tavel
May 30, 2008

Tommy Vernieri
QOTD: Really, are people still down on pink wine? At first I was not a big fan of RosÃ©, the flavor profiles just tended to seem off to me. They were thin on the palate but had no control of the alcohol. Since first trying RosÃ©s I’ve found more with the alcohol in check and I’ve gotten comfortable with their general structure. I feel like it’s definitely different than white or red. I’m glad RosÃ© is around, I wouldn’t want to drink it every day but it’s always good to mix things up and drink different styles of wine.
May 30, 2008

John Cabot
Love rose and drink lots of it. S. rhone rose’s and spanish grenache rose’s are my favs. The local Cali rose scene is really taking off. I read an article that claimed domestic over $10 rose sales are up 50+% over last year. That is a huge jump. I am going to make a syrah rose this year and maybe a little dry zin rose. We’ll see. Deffinately a nice change up from the whites.
I really enjoy the subtle strawberry/cherry nuances with some citrisy crispness and thirst quenching acidity. Yum.
May 30, 2008

EricB
I’ve had quite a few good rose wines. They are a beautiful pairing to summertime foods like grilled salmon, or just by themselves.
May 30, 2008

Stevew
Great Episode, I like to drink Rose’s in the summer time (assuming summer
comes to Seattle this year). I look forward to meeting you at your book
signing here in Seattle.
My favorite Rose’s are usually Spanish Grenache Rose’s.
I just purchased a case of a very good Washington State Rose, which
is Barnard Griffin’s 2007 Rose of Sangiovese, this Rose won the sweepstakes Award/Best of Class from the 2008 San Francisco Chronicle Wine Competition.
May 30, 2008

BobM
Gary, I’ve only had French rosÃ©s, but I’ve been happy with them and thought they were a good value, with delightful flavors that paired well with lighter fare. When I’m in a restaurant, I’ll always look at the rosÃ©s on the menus.
May 30, 2008

MonkuWino
QOTD: A good rose is a joy to drink. Fresh, crisp, refreshing, fruity – isn’t the point of a good wine something you enjoy? Those who think rose wines aren’t high class or tasteful ought to remember what Charlie Tuna’s friend said to him – Starkist doesn’t want tunas with taste, they want tunas that taste good!
May 30, 2008

joe
thanks for the shout out to my wifey for her birthday tomorrow mott! i think you’re the real brains behind the wltv curtain!
May 30, 2008

WineSnoz
Currently working my way through a case of Domaine du Gouyat (France)Cabernet Sauvignon Rose, I enjoy it on the deck with grilled chicken, pork chops, or ham steak. But, for me, Rose is a summer time wine only.
May 30, 2008

Cliff ("Cliffie") Spence
Roses are like witches
Some are good witches,
Some are BAD witches…..
(Like All wine)

But, if you are caught with a witch in your company. Well you should expect to be persecuted by the masses regardless.

Burn the witch!!!

love the show.
May 30, 2008

Michael R.
QOTD: Rose is for chicks. This is what has been hammered into my head. But, if I’ve learned anything at all from watching WLTV, it’s to throw convention into the wastebasket. For example, I LOVE drinking white wine, as much, if not more, than drinking red wine. I love fruit forward red wines as well. I’ve learned to love what I like, thanks to this show. So screw other people’s opinions. I try the stuff for myself, and I’m open to quality. I’m going to hit up the wineshop tomorrow morning, pick up some Rose and toast to new horizons.

Cheers,

Michael R.
May 30, 2008

Roberto
a lot of good roseÂ´s around, they are always great with seafood, sometimes even better than good whites…

see ya soon
May 30, 2008

ChrisV
QOTD: Rose is OK but it’s tough to figure out what its role is. If I am drinking wine for its own sake then I am more likely to want to drink something more complex like a red wine or chardonnay. If I’m drinking wine with food, then rose is a tough pairing. I mean what does it go with? Obviously not red meat or rich dishes. Fish? Not really, I’d rather have a white. Chicken? Ditto. I suppose it pairs with stuff like prosciutto but I feel like most times anything a rose can do in terms of matching with food, a white wine can do better, because a rose isnt usually a good palate cleanser. Finally, if I’m drinking for refreshment, which is when a lot of people say they drink rose, I’m more likely to choose beer. So while I’ll happily drink it if it’s put in front of me, there’s never a time when I think “Man I could really go a rose right now”.

The above is all regarding dry Australian roses. I haven’t tried roses from Languedoc or Provence because it’s hard to get them. Australia is a small country and most people know nothing at all about non-Australian wine, so French wines are a niche market, doubly so for obscure regions like Languedoc, and triply so for obscure styles like roses. In the unlikely event that someone does decide to import wines like these, they roll in at huge price points because the importer needs a big margin on small quantities and because of Australia’s insane 50% “Wine Equalisation Tax”. But mostly you just can’t find wines like this. I’m really keen to try some Loire Cabernet Francs for instance, but they can’t be had in this country for love nor money.

I’m from South Australia, where most of the good Australian roses come from. Names worth trying are Charles Melton, Turkey Flat, Woodstock, and Arrivo’s “Rosato di Nebbiolo”, a very intriguing Adelaide Hills nebbiolo rose. Definitely pick that up if you get a chance as it’s a very different, very good wine.
May 31, 2008

Chris in Tulsa
QOTD: I have become a big Rose fan. It’s a easy every day drinking wine that seems to always have a nice nose. It isn’t a complex kinda wine that brings the thunder like I’m always looking for but sometimes I just want a nice “drinking” wine.
May 31, 2008

Albert
Between Gary and one article in the NYTimes about rose, I took the plunge and bought an AWESOME Tavel Rose from Vidal Fleury. I managed a steal of an 05 vintage and have been seeking another bottle out at the same price of 19 bucks. No luck at ALL! I think it’s definitely become trendy all of a sudden to drink Tavel rose. I saw a few shops in Midtown selling that same bottle for an insane 65 bucks! My girlfriend and I had shared this incredible bottle for Valentine’s this year and she said it tasted like summer in France. Amazing the fruit spoke, it was incredibly full-bodied. Heavier than some of the lighter reds I’ve had and it smelled like strawberry blossom fields where the breeze from the ocean blew across. It was very crisp and razor sharp.
May 31, 2008

248-N8
QOTD: Never tried it because I’ve always felt they were just not really considered real wines for some reason. Although I will admit I am realizing every week it seems like how much I don’t know about the wine world, and how much there is to learn. But with rose wines I just never wanted to try it, but now thanks to the Thunder Show I will be buying my first bottle of Rose tomorrow! I hope my friends don’t laugh when they see me drinking it…
May 31, 2008

ray-ray
Nice Laid back Friday GV…

QOTD: Love Rose, so versatile in potential food pairings and just a great all-round patio wine for summer. Favorite combo has to be Rose with a plate of Charcuterie and Cheese.
Current Rose: Joie 2007
May 31, 2008

Achilleas in Cyprus
Hate the pink stuff … or rather I did until I tried one from Tsangrides Winery in Lemona, Paphos. It changed my whole outlook on rose wines.
May 31, 2008

JimChem
I love Rose wines as long as they are dry. I don’t want the sweet stuff.

Jim
May 31, 2008

joel delon
hi Gary thank you for your focus on rosÃ© wines because here in the Languedoc there’s a huge tradition of rosÃ© wines made traditionally with grenache and cinsault but those varietals are becoming more and more rare but i’m a bit surprised with the color of this aussy rosÃ© seems like a cab franc rosÃ© was it a free run juice rosÃ© ? but those blends gre cinsault pair very well with spicy cuisine have a good we to all of you from south of france
May 31, 2008

Clinton
Joie, from Naramata, BC, makes a lovely Pinot Noir (with a bit of Gamay) rose. The price point is $27 CAD, but I don’t believe much makes it out of Canada, so you can’t compare in US$. I can make sure you get a bottle when you meet with my friends at Reachd while visiting Seattle.
May 31, 2008

Rodrigo
Never really tried a decent rose, and my memories are linked to the boxed kind I had during my college days. Will give it a try this summer.
May 31, 2008

David Troyer
I don’t know man, I’ve had a RosÃ© from Bandol (Monastrell) and one from Williamette Valley (Pinot Noir) that were two of the best wines I’ve ever had as far as taste to emotions they evoke (which is most of what wine is all about). I wish people would get over the color (pinkish) just like they need to get over screw caps.
May 31, 2008

Withnail
Ate the *exact* same cheese (Gubbeen Neal’s Yard) while watching the show!
QOTD: I like rose a lot and have enjoyed it for years. I drink it year round but heavier in spring/summer. Agree with the comment below that Joie Rose is very good. British Columbia in general makes some good roses. Another current release I’ve been enjoying a lot is the 2007 Quail’s Gate Rose.
May 31, 2008

Alex
im down with the pink
May 31, 2008

J Crazy
LOVE love love (times 10) Rose. Abso-f’in-lutely.

I’ve had many many excellent roses from all over (really just within the last 12-18 months or so) that have open mine eyes to the wonder that is pink.
Love Marylin Remark’s (it’s like a %16 rose), Venus from the south of France, Chateau Julien’s Sangiovese Rosato and a whole friggin’ crap load of other roses that are just fantastic.
May 31, 2008

Medo
Tried several Rose (about 15-18 from Germany, Italy, Spain, France, Australia) in the last 2 month and only 2 of them I liked. One was from Charles Melton out of Australia and the other was from Dr. Heger out of the Baden Region in Germany. Nearly the rest was flabby, had no balance or was just thin crap.
May 31, 2008

Social Project
Thin show today, but at the end of a taping marathon, who could blame? What happened to answering viewer questions on Friday?

I have some interesting Roses in my cellar, including Kapcsandy, Domaines Ott, and Cameron Hughes did a good one. I tried a Muga recently, and some others. I tend to enjoy the first couple sips, but then Rose gets annoying for me. It’s either watermelon candy or strawberries, and then I don’t get much more out of it. I keep going back, and I keep being vaguely disappointed. (Not very, but somewhat.) Is there real complexity out there in Rose-land?
May 31, 2008

NB_SPAZZ
QOTD: Generic, mass-produced Roses were probably the first wines I drank (a favorite of the girls back in college in the 80s, and why argue with them?) But I drifted away from them for many years (the roses… not the females), in part because of prevailing opinion (not trusting my pal) and in part because I found other, especially red wines, more interesting (trusting my pal). That Beringer white zin became a fave of the older generation of women in my family didn’t help lure me back to pink wines. But, adopting the WLTV mindset, I’ve now got a few non-generic, hopefully more interesting pink wines in the cellar – waiting for a summertime family gathering when I’ll offer them to the matrons and check out the roses for myself. But I’m not popping them for myself… yet.
May 31, 2008

paul
My favorite comes from Bandol, but I also have a variety from all over the world. Not a lot of bottles, but a decent selection. Brought a few home from a recent trip to CA, as well.
May 31, 2008

BobbyTiger
Haven’t done the rose thing since I was in my 30ies, (& that was a long, long…..time ago). Primarily, it’s a visual thing. It looks as weak as it usually tastes. Sorry……………………
May 31, 2008

Andy
QOTD—- G Rose is definitely underated ,,, There are good dry ones and there are some good sweet ones. I like trying them from all over the world . France and the Aussies have some great ones. The USA is trying to get away from the White Zin craze…. People like the sweet crap.
May 31, 2008

Kathy Hughes
Gary, I’m old and when you say rose’ I think Lancers and Mateus ! However, at a tour at Domain Chandon last June, I had the pleasure of tasting their rose’ sparkling wine. It was delicious and now I’m a complete fan. So, I’ve learned your lesson and I’m keeping an open mind and enjoying a variety of vintages. All the best, Naples Kathy aka Champagne Lady
May 31, 2008

Mike Z in SD
My Rose Thesis

Some roses are crap.
Some roses are cheap.
Some roses are worth the search. Those would be the ones typically from the south of France, where character is built into them and it’s not just an accelerated version of a red wine, or an ‘afterthought’ in the producer’s portfolio. Roses don’t get enough respect, even when they’re good. Why? Not sure. I think the White Zin stigma keeps ‘em down. It might also be because they are not good at evolving with age… an attribute to which many ascribe prestige.
May 31, 2008

jeff lantz
recently have discovered roses. have tried some new state of washington roses. columbia winery makes a sangio rose which is dry, fruity and crisp. great with halibut, salmon, oysters and dungeness crab. have not tried a grenache rose but will do so immediately.
May 31, 2008

Jim
Gary, I love rose and drink varieties from all over. I hardly ever drink them during cold weather but once the temps start to rise rose starts to take over my sense of what to drink. I like rose from nebbiolo, pinot noir and a nice syrah carignan blend from Navarro as well as the French gsm blends. A few years ago you turned me on to a rosato made from ciliegiolo from Liguria. It spoiled me and I have been searching in vain for more since then.
May 31, 2008

hasbeen
I happen to run across an interview on NPR.org that I haven’t seen noted on WLTV.

http://www.npr.org/programs/wesat/features/2008/may/wineflash/winetaste.html
May 31, 2008

Bill FLEMING
Rose’s have been my favorite summer wine for the last 15 years. Since I moved from NJ to Fl, I now drink it year round, I have introduced it to many friend here and they all thank me for the pleasure it has given them. The only issue I have is that now that it is so popular, the price has taken off. I remember when you could not find a bottle over $10.
May 31, 2008

Kelly
I think Rose was my “entry level” into drinking wine, and then I picked up a lot of negative ideas from people who dissed it as being inferior. They were probably right because what I was drinking was cheap and sweet. So I moved on to the whites (chardonnay) and reds (merlot, cabernet, pinot) and there’s so much in those varieties to get into that I’ve still neglected the roses. BUT, now that I’ve seen you feature a good number of roses on the show, I’m curious about revisiting them.
May 31, 2008

Jon
I haven’t had a Rose that I can remember. I have been on the hunt to figure out wine pairings with cheese. My brother runs a creamery out of Middletown Maryland and is starting to sell via the web. I told him that it would be a good idea to offer suggestions such as wine pairings, and what better way to offer suggestions than to take all the different cheeses they make and start sampling!

I will surely place the rose in the selection of wines to try.
May 31, 2008

ChrisH
The first rose I had was from the secret pack awhile back. I really enjoyed it and have since ordered more. It really is very refreshing!
May 31, 2008

TerryFunk
Gary V, I’m back, had a little hiatus for a while, my apologies. But, what a classic week to come back too. You showed how much of a class act you really are with Mr. Mondavi, your first spill, I like the slow-mo that was hilarious, a couple one-liners that were pretty comical, and I like that you’re sitting back and relaxing just chatting with us, thats pretty cool. As far as Rose goes, there’s something about it that brings me back to it every once in awhile. My friends aren’t big fans nor am I, and the ones I have had weren’t anything that changed my life, but something draws me back to them, I guess my curiosity gets the best of me. Keep up the good work.
May 31, 2008

KyBoy
I’m all about the roses…sign me up for days. When it’s a nice spring/summer day outside, I think rose. Gary reviewed a Chateau St. Michelle Rose last year that I found down in Florida that was awesome. I still have friends (male friends) that won’t drink it b/c it’s pink. While they shy away from pink, I embrace it!
May 31, 2008

Jon-Paul Lenczuk
I will admit I’ve never tried rose (or at least I don’t remember ever trying)–however, since the summer time screams of lighter, crisp wines to me, I’m leaning toward trying–and I LOVE steamers, so thanks for the pairing suggestion!!
May 31, 2008

David Dadekian
QOTD: Haven’t really had many (if any) roses. But, because of your admonishments to not be afraid of the pink wine, we’ve currently got two in the wine chiller waiting for some summer fun.
May 31, 2008

Jason S.
QOTD: Honestly, I don’t drink much white wine to begin with, so I hardly ever turn to a rose. Maybe I should a little more.

GV – For those of us that already got the book – find another way to hook us up on the 4th gen. wristband man. Don’t leave us hanging!
May 31, 2008

Paul
Everytime I think about a nice warm summer afternoon, Rose is what comes to mind. I am always surprised at how many wine drinkers, especially that like reds, don’t migrate to this as the weather warms. I picked up a Pinot Noir Rose from Acacia in Carneros this spring which tasted fabulous and can’t wait to break it out. Enjoy the weekend all…
May 31, 2008

Terson
Haven’t had a lot of pink. Most of it has been out wine tasting in CA. Haven’t come across a variety that outperformed the other white/reds on sale. But my mind is open so I may find something eventually.
May 31, 2008

Wine Maven
QOTD: In general, roses are great dinner party starter wines. They match up well with a wide range of appetizers.
May 31, 2008

Lawrence Leichtman
Roses are so good this time of the year with backyard BBQ’s. Barbecued pork and a Tavel or Grenache based rose, yum. You mentioned Rosatos yet there are none in the Wine Library list unless I don’t know how to find them and those are my favorites.
May 31, 2008

Lawrence Leichtman
I stand corrected. Just ordered 3 bottles of 2007 Cantalupo Rosato of Nebbiolo.
May 31, 2008

Daniel
I love rose wines! They are the perfect wine to just kick backa nd relax with.
May 31, 2008

Chad Wright
Love your show. Just got turned onto it today. I think you do a great job communicating with the public. Excellent!
May 31, 2008

thefaamakesmedrink
GV,

I can’t wrap my gigantic cranium around rose because of three simple words:

Sutter Home White Zinfandel

Regards,

R. Bradley

Product of the Public Schools
May 31, 2008

Jennifer
QOTD: LOVE rose- was on a major rose kick last summer (thanks to you and the T-show), and I actually did throw back some steamers with a bottle a couple of times. Enjoyed it with some lighter cheese too. Good stuff!
May 31, 2008

Hood
Love rose, always makes me know that summer is on its way when I start to see roses on offer at my wine shop. It just makes me think of backyard afternoon barbeques immediately.
May 31, 2008

dAve
started trying Roses and Granache specifically since your review a hundred episodes ago (or less?). I will have one tomorrow evening again! 2007 Mulderbosch Cab Sauvignon Rose from South Africa. I’ll let you know the sniffy snif and whirley whirl.
QOTD: I like dry roses. It’s like buying a Pontiac, it’s only for a few stand-alone folks that are not in the normal flow. smile.
May 31, 2008

joeblackasnite
Malbec roses are my new favorite. Nice and jammy & full.
May 31, 2008

Giania
The two standout rose wines I’ve had, I have to say, were Sideshow’s La Rosa, and a rose by Frenchhouse. I think they were about 9 and 12 dollars, respectively.

The Sideshow was really enjoyable. Not as stark and acidic as some of the white wines I had tried in the past – not a huge fan of white but I’m learning more about it all the time – but not as full flavored as the reds I was accustomed to drinking. I totally think this would make a nice cheese-and-bread-for-dinner kind of wine. Cool, picnic-y, and decent strawberry/cranberry/white grape juice kind of combo if I recall correctly. Pretty awesome in the winter time if you want a cool pick-me-up from all the stifling indoor heat.

The Frenchhouse I had originally picked up because I could FIND the Sideshow at my local store but I really was in the mood for a lighter wine. And this really delivered. I remember it living up to the name by being very floral scented which definitely followed through on the flavor. Again, another cool but not sharp like white wine flavor. Way subtle, almost maybe a little like a mild honeydew with raspberries and little wild strawberries.

The Frenchhouse was a definite winner and I really do enjoy the Sideshow on a very casual level, and I would be very interested to try more of this type of wine. White wines tend to attack my tongue with their acidity, I feel like rose brings the same kinds of flavors without the serious tongue attack.

As far as pairing cheeses with rose, I’d totally recommend getting a really nice herbed goat cheese spread and some good crusty – maybe even sourdough – bread. The creamy cheeses I think work better with milder wine like white and rose. I’d have those REALLY good hard cheeses (mmm….. manchego) with bold bold red wine.

Oh, and R. Bradley: Dude, Sutter Home? White zin? Man. You’ve done yourself a disservice! Sutter Home wines have really been disappointing across the board from everyone I’ve talked to, and white zinfandel is not the same as Rose. Next time you wanna go grab a white, try looking around for the Roses. They seem to be somewhat rare in the stores in NH, but there are a few gems in the aisles. Give it a shot, you might like it despite the letdown from the Sutter Home.

Gary, keep up the good work, I think you really are helping to change the wine world because up until recently I have to say I didn’t really THINK about the wine I was drinking. It’s really brought wine to a whole new level of enjoyment. So thank you for sharing your passion, and your Gonzo approach to wine review, with all of us.
May 31, 2008

KVolk
QOTD: Roses just aren’t even on my radar. I usually don’t see them and I don’t really try them because I generally assume that white zin is getting pushed on me and that is blah….
May 31, 2008

nougat
Dry rose tastes to me like someone took a good bottle of dry, tannic red, emptied about a third of it and topped it back off with a water hose.

I’m not one of those guys who will not drink rose because “it’s for chicks”. I’ve tried a bunch of ‘em & would love to find a dry one that I could enjoy – haven’t found that yet though. If I have to drink a rose, I prefer one with a little sweetness, as long as it is acidic too.

It’s probably a good entry to wine though. My entry wine was Georges DeBoeuf Beaujolais. High five!
May 31, 2008

AmandaM
QOTD: I’ve had a few rose’s but I haven’t liked any of the ones I’ve tried. It’s not because it’s pink or anything, because I love pink. I just haven’t found one that I would enjoy drinking.
May 31, 2008

Brad -73-
you wanted a thesis – this will be more of a diatribe

sorry

never had a rose’
maybe it’s the color pink
maybe it’s that guy from Italy that I met on the Green Tortoise( cross-country trip on a bus)
who along with the other Anglophiles loved to rip American wine and beer to pieces. *grumblegrumble*
I can drink a pinot gigio,a torrontes, a pinotage and a heck even a lexia but
I’m not gonna drink no rose’

*although if it means getting one of the new wristbands
I’d be gulping gallons of the pink drink .
May 31, 2008

Vinsant
Dig the Rose! Love McCrea’s (WA state)….and would like to find some good ones from France….grenache!
June 1, 2008

Clell Alden
My wife likes wihites and I like reds. The rose helps make the wine go down.
June 1, 2008

DennerRox
Hi Gary,

I’m not lurking anymore, especially since you pleaded so nicely for comments on Rose.

Rose is a fantastic wine for everyone to try out! It’s typically dry, made from many different red grape varitals, and is what I consider to be an easy sipper and summer relaxation wine. I’m of the generation that never really understood the “Rose is bad, White Zin is bad” commentary. In fact, when tasting, if a Rose is on the list, I’ll definitely taste it, because my “mah” loves it, and I love brining a couple new bottles to her every now and again. And better yet – it’s one of the more affordable wines out there in most of the tasting rooms.

People should really give it a whirl…especially if you’re out wine tasting. I mean, you’re already at the counter, it’s on the list, what’s the harm, right?!

Oh, and as a person “in the industry”…I salute all those that drink White Zin. You found a wine you like and hopefully makes you happy. I highly recommend you try other wines (something new can always be fun!), but you’re helping to support this industry, so drink up!
June 1, 2008

Rich
Did not think seriously about Rose (biased by memories of the sweet jug Vin Rose my Dad drank in the 60’s) until a trip to Spain last year – we were introduced to a great dry Rose by Caceres at a lunch in Sevilla. After returning to the States, tried to duplicate the lunch with a Chateau Ste. Michelle Dry Rose (WA) and have been hooked ever since. The top wine for summer outdoor lunches!
June 1, 2008

jpwardaia
i haven’t had a rose wine in years and years. i remember it being too fruity, but i’ll have to try one soon, on a nice summers day. so excited and pumped to see you’re coming to DC with your rockville, md stop. i’ll be there!!!!
June 1, 2008

cheech
I love rose’s all year round especially in the summer, whites, reds, or roses’s I am not picky just cheap, anyway thanks for drinking more wine, you are more acceptable, thank you for your show, peace out
love you mott peace!
June 1, 2008

YoungDave
QOTD: I’ve had quite a few rose’s, from white Zin to Provence and Languedoc Rose to Chilean rose of Syrah to sparkling rose. Bottom line: when done right (with crisp acidity, very low sugar or bone dry) they can ALL be amazing food wines and extremely versatile food wines at that. Even without food, some of the more fruit-forward such as Syrah or Grenache- based wines from Chile or southern France rose from warmer vintages (2003, 2005) can be both enjoyably crisp and deliciously ripe by themselves, especially on a warm Summer afternoon. You wanted a thesis, but I’ll cut it off here. Thanks again for all of the educational, entertaining, and FREE content. Cheers and kudos, my friend.
June 1, 2008

Steve B
QOTD: A vastly underrated wine in America — perhaps that’s the damage brought by white zinfandel (and, for an earlier generation, Lancer’s). Europeans have always taken it seriously, though, and thank goodness for that. The French winemakers working in Walla Walla have introduced outstanding rose made from cabernet franc, syrah, cabernet sauvignon and merlot.

What’ll kill a rose is sweetness. They need to be acidic and balanced, with some heft in the flavor. A good rose is a nearly perfect match with ham.
June 1, 2008

Bernie
QOTD I have enjoyed nice Rose sparklers from Schramsberg. I think these wines are the way to go on laid back occassions.
June 1, 2008

vdv115
Gary,

You asked what we think of Rose’ wines, so here goes. Up to a few months ago I never drank Rose wines because I thought they were all sweet wines. I recently tried a few Rose wines based on another episode of WLTV and boy was I wrong. Rose is not just sweet crap, I love the dry Rose wines. You have expanded my palate, thank you.

Vic
June 1, 2008

Zanne
I love rosÃ© when it’s done well – dry, good acidity, with some nice fruitiness. PERFECT for summer. Try the rosÃ© from Kuleto Estate in Napa if you can get your hands on a bottle – it’s fantastic. The rosÃ© from Pavie Macquin that I found last year was also a big winner although I can’t find it any longer. And what up with the guys who won’t drink pink? They don’t know what they’re missing!
June 1, 2008

Dan M
QOTD: Love rose! Last one i had was a Grenache/Sangiovese… brilliant, really dry and acidic but really exciting as well!
June 1, 2008

Jim in Atlanta
QOTD – Very much enjoy drinking rose. Have been surprised by how dark some of them are now and how much they are like lighter red wines.
June 1, 2008

Peter Wood
I tried the S.C. Pannell rose in April last year and wasn’t blown away by it, in fact I really didn’t like it at all. My best rose has to be Propreita Sperino’s Rosa di Rosa from Paolo de Marchi’s Piedmont estate. Also, Dirk Niepoort’s Redoma rose is good (but getting a bit pricy) and if you want something really funky, go with Skillogalee’s Cabernet Malbec Rose from Australia. Dave Palmer says it goes with Duc and Apricots, but it is a wine I just can’t figure out if I like it or not. It was the first wine to REALLY confuse me…
June 1, 2008

RieslingRon
Hi Gary,

This time of the year I look for the Rose. I enjoy the dry versions from France, Spain, and Italy. Last year I had a Susanna Balbo rose that I truly enjoyed. I have not yet run across any Australian rose in my neck of the woods yet.
June 1, 2008

*/^_^\*
qotd: all about spanish rose’s at the moment

it’s sorta like cappuccino. everybody’s drinking these sweet bottled or frozen coffee drinks that they think is cappuccino but real cappuccino is a serious swig of coffee…..
June 1, 2008

wayno da wino
LOOOOOOOOOOOOVE DA ROSES!!!!!!!!!! Just like all Vinos, Ya got Good Ones
and NOT so Good Ones……….
Got a batch of Maurice Carrie (Temecula, CA) Cabernet Franc Rose 2002……
Yeah 2002……….and it’s STILL TASTES GOOOOOOD!!!!!!
On da other hand, bought a Chateau D’Aqueria Tavel Rose 2006 last week and
it is a LOOOOOOOOSEEEEEEEEEEEERRR!!!! I’ve had water that has more flavor!!
June 1, 2008

Alex Core
You know, I had a RosÃ© last night. I’m sorry to say I didn’t pay too much attention to who’s it was or what year. To be completely honest, The first thing that popped into my head when I saw it was “oh it’s just a RosÃ©.” It didn’t really give me any reason to look at it any further. Not a huge fan of the RosÃ©s, but maybe I’ll have to give a second look.
June 1, 2008

astropress
last week had St. Martin de la Garrigue rose from Langeudoc – awesome. had2 bottles this season so far. also splurged on a chateau de trinquevedel from Tavel that was amazing.tavel rose!nice…do a show on tavel!
June 1, 2008

Blake W
QOTD: I am actually a very big Rose fan. But one aspect that I dislike is that “good” Roses tend to be expensive. I have never had a sub-20 bone rose that i really liked. At home my fiance and I drink Rose’s quite often, but when I am out in restaurants I can’t help but feel kinda “wimpy” for ordering and sipping on pink wine. I’m slowly breaking this habit and have ordered Rose a few times in the past few weeks!
June 1, 2008

GrapeStuff
QOTD: Tried quite a few rose wines, and never found them to deliver for me. i have tried to understand why people are so big on them, but they just are not for me. Not enough going on with them for my palate – a little to simple. If I want something crisp and ready-to-go for summer, I go to rieslings.
June 1, 2008

Julie
LOVE Rose! Bandol and Tavel from France absolutely wonderful. Great with summer foods.
June 1, 2008

Jason
Qotd – I like Rose wines. What is not to like. I understand the other postings where people (guys) feel a bit uneasy about ordering them – but if you are secure in yourself to order wine – go ahead and do it.

I would like to see the shows trying a few more wines again. I don’t know if it is because of the book signing tour and having to pre-record many episodes – that must be a pain to do – but would much enjoy the usual format of trying MORE wines. Helps us out as consumers.

Also – maybe a little more wine education?! Great show, please don’t take offense!
June 1, 2008

Dave from VA
QOTD: Rose’s are awesome! Don’t get me wrong, I like plenty of whites for warm (hot in Florida) spring and summer days, but I love a good rose. Can’t say I’ve done much cheese with them, but rather backyard BBQs, burgers and hotdogs, are great with rose.
June 1, 2008

yowens
QOTD: I like roses in the summer when I’m outside. I never know how to put them with food, though. We’re very much a wine w dinner couple and rose never seems to jump into my mind with meals, probably only because of my ignorance of the wine. Safe travels, Greg
June 1, 2008

maggiej
When I first got into wine a year ago, I tried a lot of california roses that taseted very similar and basicly were strawberry. I was not a fan. Now, they are coming out of the woodwork. Recently I tried some Provence roses, esp. on from Bandol, that were yummy and fun. More mineral component. I even had a rose tasting at Rusack last weekend that I purchased.
June 1, 2008

Paulie D
1st had rose while backpacking europe in the summer- love that you can have a slightly chilled red in the summer with cheese and baguette – also like the price point. Don’t see rose promoted too much – Rose needs a good PR firm!
June 1, 2008

John D.
Thanks for the great show Gary. I’ve never had rose before, but will try. I’m trying new things, you know, broadening the palate, b/c that’s how vayniacs roll. I actually had my first Viognier this weekend (pretty nice!) with a light fish dinner. It’s getting pretty damn warm here in FL. 2006 Domaine de Triennes, Sainte Fleur. Never would have tried it if it weren’t for the Thunder Show, will try a Rose next! Cheers.
June 1, 2008

laposte
QOTD:
Locally a good rose is hard to find but last fall when traveling in France we found rose an excellent picnic wine, very refreshing.
June 1, 2008

Little Jonny H
I’ve gotta try some of the cheese! It sounds ridiculous… I’m the guy who picks the hazelnuts out of mixed nut (shell-in) packages during the holiday season!

QOTD: I’m sure that there are MANY fine rose wines out there, but I have yet to hit one I would buy a second bottle of. The thundershow has inspired me to try a couple, but they haven’t delivered on the acidity that I desire so far… which messes up the food pairings I plan! I HATE when I get out the shellfish and the wine doesn’t bring what I anticipate… I’ll keep tryin’ though!
June 1, 2008

Lefty
I have really enjoyed some rose’ out of France, but I have been challenged to find anything comparable in the domestic market. Oregon pinot noir can make a decent rose’ but a bit too mineral for my palette. Many californians feel like a vinters throw away wine.
June 1, 2008

Ben Janssen South Australia
QOTD: On the money Gary. Australian Grenache Dry Rose is very popular. Breaking the boundaries of higherly fruit driven Rose’s and making great balanced acidic Rose’s. Too many Aussie Rose’s are to-mid pallet fruit driven. They are in a transitioning fase of becomming more acidic to carry the flavour profile all the way to the back of the pallet.
June 2, 2008

teckdeck2008
qotd: I’m not a big fan of rose’s because most of the time they tend to be too fruity for my taste. But there was one occasion where I did taste a well balanced, not too sweet rose. I just prefer to drink wines that are a bit bolder with the non-fruit flavors and have stronger tannins. that’s not to say I like dry wines, but it has to have the fruit, non-fruit flavors in balance with good tannins at the end to add that extra punch.
June 2, 2008

Mason
QOTD: I have only had 2 rose wines, one from France, one from Napa Valley. I guess I ordinarily don’t gravitate toward rose when I enter my local wine shop. It isn’t that I don’t like it, I guess I just haven’t found the right place for it in my wine world. I am looking forward to trying more in the future, but honestly it isn’t a priority.
June 2, 2008

Will
I love Rose wine. I have them often at lunch, or on a summer afternoon, Also at the start of a large meal. I really enjoy them.
June 2, 2008

Oregon Jim
Love Bandol Rose! Took a bottle to a big party. Opened it and poured a glass and left it with the white Zins and such on the table and went out to mix. Came back an hour later for another glass of whatever. There was a glass that had had one sip taken of the Bandol. Someone thought they were getting a White Zin and got a big surprise because the Bandol Gros Nore Rose is a huge complex wine. That glass sat there the entire night. I was amused.

Oregon Rose of Pinot Noir is very nice and I am seeing more of it. Walla Walla is getting into the act big time now too as most tasting rooms are featuring a Rose now up there. Usually a Rose of Sangiovese or Syrah.
So the trend is defininately toward a fun low cost product that can reach a much bigger audience and is instantly accepted. Chardonnay look out!
June 2, 2008

JIKvig
I like them alot, my favoritt at the moment is Seghesio Sonoma Zinfandel, but had a bubbly Bouvet RosÃ© Excellence from Loire Valley yesterday, and that was bang for the buck!
June 2, 2008

Andrew D
So an Aussie wine that was a sugary fruit bomb (just like all the rose/’white’ wines that come out of the US). Good show mate.

QOTD: love the pink and drink it regualraly.

Cheers
Andrew
June 2, 2008

Wine Bloke
Steve Pannel has been a gun winemaker in Australia for a number of years, recently started his own label after working for one of the big 4 wine companies.

Love dry Rose exploiting real fruit and structure as opposed to doctored, residual sugar type styles. Wild Dog Rose, from Australia, Gippsland area of Victoria. Fantastic.
June 2, 2008

CrazyManAndy
QOTD: I’ve had only one rose, and I enjoyed it. Certainly something I could get into. I don’t like sweet wines, myself, preferring crispness and acidity [in whites]. That Grenache rose sounds like it’s right up my alley!

CMA
June 2, 2008

alfredhayes
QOTD: I enjoy the rose from time to time. I am a little bit hesitant to buy more of it because I don’t want to buy strawberry kool-aid for $12.

Speaking of AppleTV. I’ve watched your shows on it conected to a 46″ 1080P LCD. I appreciate the high-res Quicktime. You get it, and I appreciate that. Wish more online vlogging/shows did that as well.
June 2, 2008

Laura in Maine
I have just recently been into trying rose! And i just recently got my i pod and downloaded and subscribed to your podcasts. Anyway….so far loving rose and I am finding it very interesting. Not a huge reisling or zin fan, I was sceptical, but so glad I tried. I started out with a real cheap rose at the grocery store. I thought it was great until I got a nicer one from the local wine cellar. I bought a grenache rose from Beckman Vineyards 2006 Santa Ynez Valley and I really have enjoyed it. I do not know a lot about wines and the terms that winos use but I thought it was very good. I will be trying the one you mentioned on your latest podcast. So what cheese would go better with a rose anyway?
June 2, 2008

SaraMHCRU
I am a big fan of rose wine with thai, vietnamese, or chinese food. Off dry styles tend to balance out heat and cut saltiness, and I definitely like dry style pinks as well. I am also a fan of the fact that you can generally get a REALLY GOOD rose for less than a really good red. My favorite is chateau la roque piq saint loop from languedoc.
June 2, 2008

Karl Laczko
I’ve got a T-shirt like that!

QOTD – Love dry Roses, especially Tempranillo and Garnacha based Rosados from Spain and Provence Pinks – needs to be dry, complex and fruity. However I don’t buy as many as I should. I enjoyed the Turkey Flat you covered last year, and my best in the last 12 months was the Clos Mistinguett 2005 CÃ´tes de Provence RosÃ© Cru ClassÃ©, closely followed by the Orden Tercera 2006 Temranillo Rosado (Rueda).
June 2, 2008

Bruce Ruderman
Rose and Beaujolais great for summer.
Doesn’t matter if it is sweet (Rosado) or steely (loire).
June 2, 2008

Pardus
I LOVE LOVE LOVE dry rose wines. These days I am drinking some from Bordeaux and Hungary. One of my favorites is from Bock vineyard in Villany, Hungary.
June 2, 2008

Ken T
I think they are great wines. I have several different ones from France, Australia and Italy and one from Spain as well as some from Cali.

They a great change of pace and when you serve them your guests are saying; “oh shit the fool is serving White Zin”. Then you serve the wine and they are very surprised. I am also a huge fan of Rose bubbly!!!
June 2, 2008

Soupy
Turkey Flats Rose from Austrailia is also another great Rose in the same price point.
June 2, 2008

HeadWino
QOTD: My initial thoughts of Rose wines are for a lack of a better word… kool-aid. Tending to be too sweet, lean on the body. Another consideration for not buying in the past is that when opening for friends they, too, share a similar prejudice. So why bring out rose when you know your guests likely won’t care for it.

That said, you have opened my eyes with many other suggestions so on my next case order I will throw in a couple bottles of this rose for a try.

Best,

B
June 2, 2008

michael
QOTD: I started into rose’s because of one of your early shows – I believe it was the ‘cotton candy’ nose that seemed intriguing. Personally I think they bring something white doesn’t bring, which is a perfume or even ‘rose’ or flower scents. Added body also makes them lots more fun than white. My two recent winners were Domaine de la mordoree from the Rhone, Regaleali from Sicily, and the amazing Elyse rose from Cali, so you could say I’m quite a fan. Look forward to seeing you at Seed.
June 2, 2008

Joe G.
I actually adore an italian rose called cerasuolo. I tend to be a red wine drinker over whites and this is my substitute for a white when I am have light fare like seafood it’s crisp fresh and very drinkable.
June 2, 2008

Colin
GV – Love rose, from the moment I first had one (Loire). I don’t know much about them, but I think they represent good value – esp. against other summer wines (Alsace, NZ Sauv. Blanc). The dryness in the summer is simply addictive. Also – everyone is surprised when they love them – and often then appear at their next BBQ with rose, without fear. I feel a big rose trend is on the horizon!
June 2, 2008

Lb in KS
QOTD…I guess I just don’t hang with the right crowd…because, I’ve never really understood what the problem with rose’ was? Somebody inform me
June 2, 2008

VinoVixen
Good show…the cheese does sound perfect for beer!
QOTD: LOVE roses! I started a wine club last year and the 1st wine had was a rose….wanted to get everyone to see it in a better light and not to be afraid of the pink stuff! I believe anyone that is a red wine drinker, should love a dry rose…One of my favorites last year was from Spain.
June 2, 2008

Rick McQ
Gary:

I inititally thought Rose was too fruity and very much like wine coolers. Traditionally, I’m an old world red drnker, but have expanded to dry whites. However, I have had a couple of very good ones you reviewed last year.
June 2, 2008

benjaminrorymyers
It’s hard to beat carbonation when you’re looking for refreshment. I go beer before rose.
June 2, 2008

tom
My favorite rosÃ© is the Chateau Dâ€™Esclans Whispering Angel.

I was fortunate to have been exposed to rosÃ© back in the late 80s working at Bonny Doon Vineyard — their Vin Gris is one of the best year in and year out.

Almost all of the rosÃ© wines that Robert Kacher imports are outstanding — and great values as well. The list includes:
- Mas de Bressades
- Mas Carlot
- Domaine des Corbillieres
- Domaine de Gournier
- Mas de Guiot
- Domaine de la Petite Cassagne
June 2, 2008

Chippewamike
Had an Australian Rose from Nine Vines. Loved it. Took it to a wine tasting with friends and when I pulled it out, I heard all about the “pink wine” and how they were going to pull my “man card” for bringing this girls’s wine–and then the tasted it. . . they loved it. Thought it would be great during the summer months etc. etc. . . . They were concerned with the “perception” of drinking the “pink stuff” in public, but did love the wine.
June 2, 2008

mattygroves
love the rosÃ© action! really dug discovering Susana Balboa’s Crios Malbec rosÃ© last year and Tegernseerhof from Austria (a bit too sweet by itself for me, needs food). And Bandols rule!
June 2, 2008

NC Carl
Rose = Awesome.

Las Rocas…and the turkey flat was good.
June 2, 2008

Derek F.
I like Rose wine, only tried a few but liked them, I have a Rose wine tasting this coming wednesday night so that should be interesting!!!!
June 2, 2008

RANDI
Gary!!
I love some Rose wine..but I have to admit, I dont often think of Rose as a “go to” wine.. This summer I will try some more!
June 2, 2008

Chuck
Love the description of this one at WL. “Lurid pink”…
QOTD – Not much experience with rose. Might just check this one out.
June 2, 2008

Capt M
Very pleasant Friday episode. I love rosÃ©. I have it often, and yet not near as often as I should or would like to. This episode makes me want to have cheese and rosÃ©, so I will. RosÃ© is definitely a gift to the wine world. It’s quite unique, it’s distinguished, it’s very varied, like the grenache that you just had. I very often open a bottle of rosÃ© for dinner, but I will do it much more often from now on.
June 2, 2008

pete c
Although I’ve had some decent rose wines, I still lean towards a white in the hot summer days.
June 2, 2008

BobMac
QotD: Aside from the “chick wine” stigma of pink wines, I’m not a big fan of the dry pinks. Although, I just had a Krupp pink and thought it was great.
June 2, 2008

JayZee
QOTD: Interesting reading the other Vayniacs comments. For the longest time, I wouldn’t touch any rose’ wine. Pink was White Zin and that poisoned me for a LONG time. And then I was at a wine tasting dinner several years ago and one of the ladies who was a proprietor from Mas da la Dame in Provence was there and she had a dry rose that we tried and I liked it so much that I bought several bottles. In Barcelona last summer, I again tried several rose’ wines and they were all very nice. I think I like them better than most white wines because they seem more serious to me, if that makes any sense, than many white wines.
June 2, 2008

Newman
QOTD: It’s hard to find anything but white zinfadel at most of the liquor stores up here. I had a white merlot once and thought it was pretty amazing, but I don’t remember the name. So, based on what I’ve tried, I’m a fan of rose, and I look forward to trying many more this summer.
June 3, 2008

pete
WORD: I love rose in the summer. BBQ and Rose are a great combo. A porch wine my wife and I can both enjoy (she normally is a sav blanc only kind of gal.) long Island is making some decent Roses as well. North Form vineyards have some nice options but I’ve never seen in the store.

Here’s the deal – I’ve never had a GREAT Rose. Lots of good but no great. So it tends to be for times when I’m not focused on the wine. Nothing wrong with that, just saying…
June 3, 2008

Bill
I love the Etude Rose – it’s a red wine drinker’s rose. Awesome. I also just had Miner Rosato – beautiful & floral. Great stuff.

Overall, I love rose’s. They are the perfect apertif & porch wine. Especially great with food.
June 3, 2008

mcj
QOTD: I am into crisp/clean/dry wines, so I love roses.
June 3, 2008

Jeff
LOVE rose wine!!
I have bought about 20 different types from all over the world for this hot florida summer–so far both the similarities and differences have both been fun and astounding.
Have had a couple of GREAT ones from USA recently—a tip from WLTV past episode, but different variety–the Breggo Rose; and also Lagier-Meredith from mt. veeder napa valley.
But…….it is impossible to go wrong with the traditional French rose; from whatever region you like.
June 3, 2008

GaryJK
My first post, so I guess I am no longer a lurker! I thoroughly enjoy your insight & enthusiasm. Your show has certainly helped me reacquaint myself with the all important FUN FACTOR.
My preference is reds but I have recently found Rose to be wonderful new addition.

One of the nicest Roses I am had is from an artisan winery, Channing Daughters. Their 2007 Cabernet Franc Rosato Croteau is just delightful while sitting on the deck with your feet up. YUM.

Gary
June 3, 2008

Flavio
RosÃ©, for me, is the quintessential summer wine. I got hooked from spending my summers in France, where from June to September everyone seems to forget that any other type of wine exists. You can walk into any supermarket during the summer and rosÃ© will be 70+% of their inventory.

While in France in July and August (and to a certain extent in the US from memorial day to labor day), it’s rosÃ© for lunch and dinner all the time. I tend to stick to basic Cotes de Provence for the day-to-day. The Bandol region makes great (better?) rosÃ©s, with Tempier being the best one for nicer meals (Domaine Ott is the most commercial and overpriced producer in Bandol, but not bad at all). Janasse (the great CdP producer in the Southern Rhone) also makes a very interesting rosÃ©.

One of the few exceptions I make while in the South of France is the very pleasant white from Cassis (a little beach town near Marseille), but I’ve never been able to find one in the US. Great body, decent (low) acidity – the best partner for a bouillabaisse (the local seafood stew).
June 3, 2008

Dana
We’ve been drinking rose’s for several years. Agree with Flavio they’re a great summer wine, but we drink them off and on all year since they work with so many foods.
June 3, 2008

Bobby Wino
up until about 6 months ago I never drank rose and I had a bad feeling about it. Cheap, sweet roses gave the pink a bad reputation, which definitely curbed me from trying them.

Then I finally tried a french rose and I’m a total convert…with thai food? Definitely rose. Pizza? Oh yes…I’m totally into roses and as summer heats up I’ll definitely be drinking a lot in the next few months
June 3, 2008

davebw
Got turned on to rose when I lived in Ontario, by Malivoire Ladybug Rose. Very nice, can’t remember the grapes, definitely not grenache. Nowdays I am a big fan of grenache, and roses based on grenache are just the thing for sitting outside in hot texas weather.

Dave.
June 3, 2008

Daniel O
There’s a time and a place for rose… and summer time on the patio is it! I love Kim Crawford Pansy! Rose. Yummy!
June 4, 2008

ev
‘06?? Wasn’t this released a year and a half ago? I would think the ‘07 would be best now.
June 4, 2008

SoCal
QOTD: I don’t mind them but I have not had very many….they are not as available in So.Texas…plus I prefer Champaign when it gets hot…..
June 4, 2008

Clark
QOTD: When I was 15-16, in 1964-65, and living in Spain, I preferred rose (called clarete-meaning clear) to red. Then in law school in the US I tried them again and found them to be sweet, cheap, and not to my liking. They were not at all as I remembered them, a little lighter than the reds and a little fruitier than the whites, which tended to be steely and sharp. I liked both the roses and the whites. Consequently I have been afraid to try what is sold here. I guess I need to try again.
June 5, 2008

lurkdawg
I was away for a couple of days, but in case you look back at this comment:
I LOVE rose wines when it’s warm out. I drink more rose in the summer than my girlfriend can stand (and she does like some of them). I am hooked on some of the roses from the south of France, but I’ve had good ones from several other places. Now that I’m thinking about it, I’m going to go get some roses today or tomorrow. Can’t wait.
June 5, 2008

Taylor
QOTD Nothing wrong with the pink wines, In spring and summer i tend to drink them as an alternative as well havent had any too great so far but i will be sure to keep trying them
June 5, 2008

GR8wine
Gary, how timely! I’m really getting into Rose’s this spring/summer, even helped make one, and have noticed my wine shops are pushing them too. I think it’s making a big comeback and shaking off that stigma of white zin, blush, and the cheap Lancers and Mateus everyone thinks of. I’ve had quite a few and they vary a lot. I like a good quality one because they are pretty darn versatile and pair with almost anything. Do you think there’s any correlation between the seeming increasing popularity of roses and the increasing popularity of Blanc de Noir Sparkling wines (which are classically roses)?
June 11, 2008

Hooplect
Gary, a few years ago my wife and I were in France and sampled a number of Rose wines. They are versatile with food pairings and I hope everyone takes an opportunity to give them a go. I think too often wine drinkers are reluctant to drop $10+ on a pink wine but they are missing some good summer sipping. Let’s hope they follow your lead.
June 17, 2008

SeaSybarite
Nice show on on RosÃ©s! Nice cheese too. I DEF dig on washed rind cheeses.

QOTD: LOVE rosÃ©s! Pink wine ROCKS! One of the most versatile, varied types of wines i’ve ever tasted. I was introduced a few years ago, and haven’t really found one i DO NOT like, tho some have been weak. One of my consistent favs is RosÃ© of Sangiovese, from Barnard Griffin. At only $10, it’s perfect lightly-chilled (50 degrees), with some red alder-bbq’d Copper River sockeye, carmelized asparagus, sauteed porcinis, and roasted fingerling potatos.
June 25, 2008

Michael H.
Love the Rose…

QOTD: The good ones that I have had combine the best qualities of white and red wine. It always reminds me of mixing a crisp chardonnay from burgundy with a pinot from CA… whatever that means?
June 26, 2008

Colin Komar
QOTD: I have not really experienced many rosÃ©s. I would talk about White Zinfandels because that is what my Mom really enjoys and I have had a ton in my lifetime, but those were outlawed. I do like White Zinfandel though. They are pretty light, do not pack much of an alcoholic punch, and pretty flavorful. Looks like I broke the rules anyway .
July 9, 2008

damon aka unknownwine
Missed ya, I’m about a month behind on episodes. When I watch late it feels like you’re just talking to me. That sounds wierd…anyway….rose. anytime anyplace. White wine crispness with sexy red fruit aromas and flav. some good us examples now. best I think from spain and aus.
July 10, 2008

kjdion
not that experienced with rose wines…
July 21, 2008

MattUD
I am not against roses, but it is not my first choice when I go to get a bottle, I will try and get them more into the rotation though.
January 13, 2009

Dessert Wine Nerd
QOTD: I havent had a lot of rose, but what ive had ive enjoyed. It isnt so much Im afraid of them or think theyre crap, I just went on a spree the last year and mostly bought wines to cellar. Its time to calm down a bit and as Ive said before to buy wines that I havent tasted ( du papes, Xarel-lo, etc) AND buy wines I can drink now. #1 wine mission in the new year.