Value Wines From All Over The World

Value Wines From All Over The World – Episode #481

June 9, 2008

Gary comes back from his trip to explore different wines that are priced right and value driven.

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Wines tasted in this episode:

2006 Fado RedOther Portuguese Red Wine
2003 Pellegrini East End MerlotNew York Merlot
2004 Dancing Coyote TangoOther California Red Meritage
2005 Bangin’ Napa Valley RedNapa Red Meritage

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June 10, 2008

Nico
GV,

Always tough to balance our passion and our businesses. Time will tell if you have crossed the line.

BUT does anybody cares that Robert parker is part owner of Beaux Freres in OR? Does that stop him from reviewing the wines? There are plenty of precedents like Armin Diel in Germany (the most important wine writer in Germany and also owner of Weingut Diel).
BUT Mr Parker and Mr Diel have invested in land and winery and they are walking the talk on quality and commitment. I can’t say the same about a private label – I think that might go agaisnt some of your principles.

I have no problem with your gig and will keep enjoying the show. I just wanted to toss my two cents.

Take care,

Nico
June 10, 2008

Smahlatz
Damn right it’s not fair to pick on Australia!! Not fair on you that is – you will pay if you keep it up

QOTD : Some code I saw at work today. It was so poor, I just had to smile. That and the thought of how much better I was going to make it
June 10, 2008

GeneV
Honestly, I don’t even see the problem with the episode. Whether it is Gary’s house brand or not, he is tasting something he sells. Either he is doing an honest tasting or he isn’t. I am fine with a blind tasting that the house brand won.
June 10, 2008

Zune76
Last thing that made me smile, was you protecting yourself from the oakmonster with a WLTV wristband haha.. that was a good one

/all.. Well…. trust your own palate, then itÂ´s no problemo even if it was a marketing episode going on.. ! Btw, you did not get any scores on the wines, so even if the WL wine won, it could have got just 71 points
June 10, 2008

Jake B
Gary,
Solid lurker here who’s only been into the show for a couple of weeks. Like everyone else here, I was thoroughly captivated by the blind tasting affair.
Here’s how I see it: it’s been one of those unfortunate things where a couple of innocent but unfortunate mistakes start the ball rolling, then you get a cascade of totally unlucky miscommunications and coincidences that result in the whole shebang. Conclusion: it happens, get over it people! I have no doubt that Gary and the boys learnt a lesson or two from it (ie, make sure SOMEONE knows what’s in the paper bags…..after all, don’t want Gary giving a SNIFFY SNIFF to turps with purple food dye). You’re treading a thin line between offering impartial reviews of vino then selling the stuff round the corner, which isn’t always going to be easy and will occasionally result in these conspiracy theories, but don’t sweat it; you’ve obviously got principles backing what it is you do.
QOTD: the beautifully marbled and spot-on rare scotch fillet steak and Heathcote shiraz i whipped up for dinner to celebrate killing a massive assignment today.
June 10, 2008

Barry
Let me see if I am getting this right. You pulled the episode because you thought there might be a conflict of interest if it was revealed your house wine was the top scoring wine. You then proceed to tell everyone your house wine was the top scoring wine. What am I missing?
June 10, 2008

Kristen
Wow, I had no idea that this would cause the hullabaloo that it did. I really don’t see why people are saying GV has no integrity. I would think that if he aired the entire episode! He had enough common sense to not show the final results precisely because he wanted to maintain it.

And as for why GV said the WL private label won, people would have gone berserk if they didn’t know what happened and why we can’t see it. Can you imagine the theories that’d be on this forum if he didn’t explain himself? And who among us have traveled that much in 12 days whilst taping a daily wine show, doing books signings, and attending various conferences around this large country of ours? Not many, I feel. So please, was it really that big of a deal?

QOTD: Other than seeing a new episode of WLTV, my signed copy of David Sedaris’ “When You Are Engulfed in Flames.” Can’t wait to put that alongside my to-be-signed copy of 101 Wines.
June 10, 2008

Harry
Ok, I do think the way you explained the issue was sketch – and you’re too good a marketer to assume your plug for your house wine as the winner was inadvertent. But let’s move on – its really not such a big deal, and it should serve as a lesson that we need to trust ourselves more and care far less about what you think. That’s the point, no?

Last thing that made me smile was a cold beer in a bar last night and striking up a conversation with a beautiful Israeli girl (I lived in Israel for a few years). There’s an upside to everything, even this heat wave…
June 10, 2008

Pardus
While I am a little disappointed that we didn’t get to see the lineup I completely understand why.
June 10, 2008

Ben
Gary,

Here is the deal, you made a judgement call. Lets say for sake of discussion, you aired the episode. Can you imagine all the douche bags ( probably the same people bashing in here ) who would have come out and said , blah blah blah, he just wants to sell his own wine, blah, blah , blah.

In this case, you were screwed if you did and screwed if you didnt.

Either way, people who are bashing you are going to bash you regardless, they just want to find something to get their granny panties in a bunch over.

Keep up the FREE informative, passionate, educating and entertaining show and forget this crap, because it’s seriously a waste of energy.
June 10, 2008

Wednesday
Good show, Gary.

My better half is probably the last thing that made me smile.
June 10, 2008

Oakmon's BF
Very nice Gary, Iâ€™m completely satisfied with your explanation and I apologize for suggesting you were just pulling our strings to inspire passionate comments. Perhaps you can display the other cabs (unopened), briefly repeat the comments you made and the scores you gave them.

I always have a big smile when I walk out of the Doctorâ€™s office on my way to my first good meal in over a month. Iâ€™ll see you this Thursday. I wonâ€™t be participating in the wine/food pairing because Iâ€™ll still be on a diet until next Thursday when Iâ€™ll walk out of the doctorâ€™s office with a big smile.
June 10, 2008

Arjen Blom
I agree with the many who are disappointed, you do these show very professional and on such a regular basis, that you have created a responsibility for the program!
I understand that the program should remain a neutral feel but it is still related to the Wine Library and thus a commercial outing. Please be a bit more careful next time as the Vayniacs do like to be taken serious.

Would it be a suggestion to expose all the cabs and there ratings without showing the â€˜house labelâ€™, as you have 4 of them, it would be difficult to guess?

By the way, where can I get the T-Shirt!!
Arjen – Singapore!
June 10, 2008

italianwinelover
Wow I’m exhausted reading all of these bashing statements! People in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones….give the guy a break. Gary stayed true to what he wants WLTV to be and the least we can do is respect him enough to forgive the oops that happens in life. Jzzz I don’t think you people understand life too much if you can’t even forgive a simple boo-boo!!

Nice show Gary – loyal to the end! Who cares about the lurkers they only seem to come out when there is something bad to say and that is so easy in life why not try a little challenge and find nice things to say. What you put out in the world is what you get back and obviously these lurkers put negativity out instead of good! A shame that the “Bangin” didn’t work out the blend peaked my interest as well as the name -love the PV!!!!

QOTD: Yesterday when my son and I were painting our bathroom. I always laugh with him!

Good show GV-keep up the good work-you ARE changing the wine world for sure!!!
June 10, 2008

SaraMHCRU
I suppose it’s a reasonable explanation, even though I’m disappointed to not know what the other good cheap cabs were. Maybe you could do another blind cheap cab tasting soon?

qotd: my dog lying on her back in the direct path of the AC. she just looked so goofy.
June 10, 2008

SoCal
…..Nice attempt with the ad hominem attacks though. â€œMaybe some day you will get a lifeâ€ ? Does having a life consist of making ad hominem attacks on an internet blog?….

No but apparently it does include throwing around “ad hominem” twice to make ones point….

My point is…… you are stirring up a hole bunch of BS over a $10 tasting….for what?…..

BTW your the one making the connection between my comment of angry people in their parents basement and lurkers….
June 10, 2008

Len
Good episode …glad you’re back. Not-sure why people are so upset — disappointed is one thing, that you didn’t reveal the results but I understand. No excuses necessary…things happen– for whatever reason. No one else knows how much time this takes and when you’re trying to do all that you do…mistakes happen. You do a great job, continue what you do best and leave at that.

QOTD: The last thing that me smile — my daughter.

Lurker-Len
June 10, 2008

Kurt M
Brian said:

“Itâ€™s sadâ€¦its VERY VERY SAD..Lurkers need to go back to being lurkers and shut up because they only wanna prety on the negative … Just remember gary, your true fans will support you, the lurkers are the ones looking for a reason to bash you.”

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Brian,

Gary is the one who keeps saying the lurkers should come out ! Is it your view that the lurkers should only come out when they agree with Gary 100% ?

Also, you have a no true Scotsman logical fallacy in your argument. “[Y]our true fans will support you” – so no TRUE fan could disagree with Gary? I will make a note of that the next time Gary tells me to trust my own palate. I assumed that meant I should also trust my own brain and own opinions as well.

Calling people “lurkers” and “not true fans” does not make your points any stronger.

Air episode # 477 !
June 10, 2008

The Aesthetic Elevator
Whoa, didn’t see everyone else was making such a fuss until after I posted. Simply don’t have time to read SO many comments Anyway, still want to see those results . . .
June 10, 2008

Kurt M
SoCal :

What you call the “angry looser in their parents basement guy” is what someone else might call a “lurker”. Gary always wants to get the lurkers out – I guess he got his wish.

Nice attempt with the ad hominem attacks though. “Maybe some day you will get a life” ? Does having a life consist of making ad hominem attacks on an internet blog?

Air Episode # 477 !
June 10, 2008

The Aesthetic Elevator
Um, OK, still waiting for the results from the last blind tasting . . .
June 10, 2008

Mark
The last thing that made me smile was the smell of the slow cooked pot roast along with a refreshing and relaxing glass of Zinfandel after a long day of work.
June 10, 2008

Karl Laczko
Sorry Gary, you know I’m a fan, and the explanation was at least that – an explanation, but it still does not justify not showing the ending – now that you’ve given us the story as you wanted to, when you’re back in the office and not on the road, then show the ending and let us see it in the correct context is now essential.

I’m not going to stop watching, that would be STUPID, and even threatening so is immature and unreasonable, it’s not where I’m at – but I NEED you to show that ending, not doing so now would really cast doubt on your motives, and I don’t want even the hint of a conspiracy that others seem so desparate to find.

I have to say it as I see it…..The rest of today’s show got lost in the mix…..
June 10, 2008

SoCal
Wow from the wood work comes…..angry looser in their parents basement guy…..relax people so what if you don’t see the end of the episode….it is his show and if he thinks it is a conflict on interest to show a WL private label winning a blind tasting on WLTV then that is his call…..this notion that GV credibility is in question is laughable….and I love all the…….”you just lost a viewer” crap….if you really care that much about a $10 cab tasting then crawl back into you hole and continue playing GTA 4 and smoking too much….maybe some day you will get a life…..
June 10, 2008

Wine Bloke
If the whole Episode #477 fiasco has done one thing, it shows us all what passion and “feeling” everybody has toward not only wine in general, but toward the show and Gary V.

Gary has admitted it was a big stuff up and has apologised for it. People, “Shit Happens”.

I just love how much passion is out there. I’m here for the long haul.