89 Point Wines, What Is The Deal! – Episode #482

June 10, 2008

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So many people stay away from the 89 point scored wines like it has the black plague, WHY? Gary Vaynerchuk explores these wines!

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Wines tasted in this episode:

2006 Travis ChardonnayOther California Chardonnay play review at cork'd
2006 Denner TheresaOther California White Rhone V play review at cork'd
2004 Mas Carlot Cab/syrahSouthwest France play review at cork'd
2005 Core RedOther California Rhone Blends play review at cork'd

Links mentioned in todays episode.

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  1. June 10, 2008

    Jimmy T

    QOTD: I only saw a couple of episodes where you have done port. The only real focus I saw was episode 102 on Vintage Ports that run some serious bones out of the wallet and require a lot of time investment. I think I may get one for my newborn to share when she turns 21. Anyway, I think an episode showcasing the LBV Ports and some explanation of the different choices Ports offer in Ruby, Tawny, LBV and Vintage would help with bringing great value today to those interested expanding the pal outside of the RED/WHITE wine drinking.

    Show Title: Poor man’s Port: Late Bottled Vintage Port

    http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=36030
    http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=36030
    http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=36339

    Alright homey. Hope to meet you some day.

  2. June 10, 2008

    manonthemoon

    Great show today.

    QOTD: Love the idea of a trio of 05 spanish wines with an oddball thrown in.

    40101 Pintia Toro Tinto 2005

    38889 Pesquera Crianza 2005

    40014 Felix Callejo Crianza 2005

    40091 Summers Estate Charbono 2006

  3. June 10, 2008

    Jimmy T

    Sorry to waste the space but I wanted to see if this comment “awaits moderation”. I don’t understand why it does that when it’s not my first time.

  4. June 10, 2008

    PaVo

    QOTD: I debated and debated this but I really would love for you to do a show on Canadian Reds, specifically from BC. I know you highlighted the Osoyoos a number of episodes back, but MAN Canada has some great ones. I am lucky enough to have a wonderful girlfriend who lives in the Vancouver area, who has encouraged my tasting and totally embraced trying anything and everything in the win world. And whenever I go up there I get to try these amazing wines. I know WL doesn’t have any reds from BC( just some ice wines) so maybe it’s a later show sometime. But there are some really great things. The 2nd label from Osoyoos is amazing, had it on my last trip up there. Along with some really interesting varietals that I’d never heard of; Baco Noir for instance. Gosh this is getting long winded. ANYWAYS, I’d call it “Not just America’s Hat: Great reds from Canada”

    Maybe if it’s not tomorrow for lack of BC reds maybe some other time.

  5. June 10, 2008

    Brian Tannebaum

    idea for show – tribute to criminals

    The Guilty 04 or 05 – aussie shiraz (winemaker is George Shinas – criminal judge in Aus.)

    The Prisoner – Zin – Orin Swift 92 or 93 parker I think

    Innocent Bystander – Shiraz/Viogner I think

  6. June 10, 2008

    Tom Jones

    Gary do not worry about what people say just keep fighting the good fight. I know everyone you met in Houston town would agree when I say that we Vayniacs trust your intentions. :-)

  7. June 10, 2008

    Jimmy T

    QOTD: I only saw a couple of episodes where you have done port. The only real focus I saw was episode 102 on Vintage Ports that run some serious bones out of the wallet and require a lot of time investment. I think I may get one for my newborn to share when she turns 21. Anyway, I think an episode showcasing the LBV Ports and some explanation of the different choices Ports offer in Ruby, Tawny, LBV and Vinatage would help with bringing great value today to those interested expanding the pal outside of the RED/WHITE wine drinking.

    Show Title: Poor man’s Port: Late Bottled Vintage Port

    http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=36030
    http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=36030
    http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=36339

    Alright homey. Hope to meet you some day.

  8. June 10, 2008

    John Farrin

    QOTD:I’d like to see a comparison of, at least on paper, seem to be great QPR’s. They are two Oregon pinots from the same winery and the same price.
    Boedecker Athena Pinot Noir 2005 #38080 $29.98
    Boedecker Stewart Pinot Noir 2005 #39933 $29.98

  9. June 10, 2008

    KVolk

    QOTD: blind tasting of cab….version 2

  10. June 10, 2008

    Lawrence Leichtman

    I would like to see some American Gewürtztraminers reviewed. Maybe some Rose’s from other than US, Australia or France as well. I haven’t watched yesterdays’s show so I don’t know what was the finish with the blind tasting.

  11. June 10, 2008

    RieslingRon

    QOTD: Call the show the “Three Amigos from Spain”………..
    Martin Codax Albarino 06………#33148
    Marques de Murrietta Reserva…..#38952
    Protocolo Red NV……………..#17837

    OR

    Your advanced Sherry episode

  12. June 10, 2008

    Dale Cruse

    GV, I’ve searched and you’ve never tasted Tavel on The Thunder Show. We all need to expand our palates and taste a great summer rose from France!

    You’ve got two:

    Trinquevedel Tavel Rose: http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=11884
    Domaine Lafond Tavel Rose 2007: http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=39946

    Nice, quick show. Question of the day: Have you ever had a Tavel? If not, make that your goal this weekend!

  13. June 10, 2008

    Susan

    Gary- QOTD: Staff day at WLTV: Let any/ all staff members pick one wine that is a good QPR!!!
    OR
    Do all Spanish Tempranillos that are good QPR’s
    (maybe you could save staff day for a day you are gone?)
    :)

  14. June 10, 2008

    maggiej

    QOTD: A show of Wannabe’s, i.e. new world (American) wines that wannabe old world.

    (in no particular order but note different regions and prices)
    Beringer Alluvium Red 2004
    Ramey Claret 2005
    Waterbrook Melange 2005

  15. June 10, 2008

    Kdawg

    QOTD: Title: Finally it’s here, a Red Burgundy Show: Nuits St Georges

    Bust out Library Codes: 34851, 38259, 9549

    c’mon you know you want to do it

  16. June 10, 2008

    grace

    I think I have to go with Dr. T on this one. Dessert wines! I’d throw a port in there.

  17. June 10, 2008

    Susan

    Gary-Can you scream/yell again for us??????????????!!! wink :) wink :)

  18. June 10, 2008

    Robin C

    QOTD: Any of the below:
    Arietta On The White Keys 2005 Library Code|34091
    Hoage Syrah/ Grenache Forty Six 2004 Library Code|299
    Mcprice Myers Cuvee Kristina 2005 Library Code|39429
    St. Cosme Lex Deux Albions Cotes Du Rhone Rouge 2006 Library Code|38247

  19. June 10, 2008

    kallardnyc

    WL Staffers and their Wine

    Brandon’s pick – Guillon Gevrey Chambertin Pere Galland 2006 (One of my favs)

    Ian’s pick – Boedecker Athena Pinot Noir 2005

    Matt’s pick – Dr Karl Christoffel Wehlener Sonnenuhr Riesling Spatlese 2006

    And if you have time…

    Dennis’ pick – Vinedos Dos Victorias Elias Mora Toro 2006

    Bo Carlson
    kallardnyc
    The Shadow

  20. June 10, 2008

    Richard N

    QOTD: Here is what I came up with!

    West Coast and New Zealand:

    New Zealand: Whitehaven Sauvignon Blanc 2007
    California: St Francis Pagani Zinfandel 2004
    Oregon: Adelsheim Pinot Noir 2006
    Washington: Andrew Will Sorella 2004

  21. June 10, 2008

    DaveyDonut

    Gary,

    Yes, I got an email at 3am saying, “I am not a bad guy.” First I thought, “Why the hell is Gary up at 3am?!?” but then I was sad that you somehow thought I was being negative, because I wasn’t at all! In your comments today you seem to be saying that those who commented questioning your reason for not airing the episode are in someway negatively judging your character, and I think that’s completely off, at least in my case! I haven’t missed a single episode (live, I don’t mean I went back in the archives) in nearly two years, and I love this movement and what you’re doing. My point was kind of the OPPOSITE of how you took it. I KNOW you’re a good guy and not trying to just sell the wine. I KNOW the episode was filmed blind, and you didn’t know what the wines were. Therefore, I wouldn’t have thought it was setup when I saw that your wine won. I would have thought, “That’s cool! He really IS trusting his own palate, since he didn’t know what the wines were yet the wine produced for his company wound up being the best value.” I’m sure you didn’t just go to a bar in California and say, “Anyone have any left over juice they want to bottle for me?” I’m sure you chose the producer carefully, etc.

    I really wouldn’t have had a problem with not seeing the ending due to your explanation IF you hadn’t said at the end that your wine won! After you said that, the whole reason for not airing it went right out the window. :-)

    Perhaps there’s so many Vayniacs that you don’t recognize my name in the comments, or recall the emails we’ve exchanged… but I’ve been here pretty darn early and wouldn’t be questioning your character with the move. However, that doesn’t mean that I think every choice you may make is correct, and I think everyone should be able to hear constructive criticism from those who are around them without assuming the person is somehow judging them negatively. And likewise, when you meet ME in real life, you’ll see that while I may come across very straight forward and direct in type (read: asshole), I’m actually quite loving! Hopefully I’ll make it to the Portland book signing (though I already have two signed copies from Woot??), but remember when I invited you to my house in email last year after the my malt liquor spoof didn’t win the Vayniac contest, but the winner was in Portland? You said you’d come a day early for a drink. :-) Anyway, I still love you Gary, don’t worry! And thanks for allowing us to see the episode… Already got the email from Mott!

    QOTD: Oh… I don’t know… 2005 Burgundy that you promised in several episodes and I wrote you a big long email about (though I’ve mostly figured out those answers by now)? ;-) Or are those already sold out? Actually, I already have my 6 cases of 2005 Burgundy, and now I’m on to 2004 Piedmonte and Veneto, which is suppose to rule. I just got half a case of each of the following from you, but haven’t popped any yet:

    39345 – Manzone Barolo Bricat Gramolere 2004 (93 points Tanzer AND Galloni)
    38085 – Bussola Amarone Bg 2004

    I’d love to hear your thoughts on those. But you said three… so…

    38225 – Zenato Amarone 2004

    David

  22. June 10, 2008

    Loweeel

    purplejuicebruce — click on my name :) And feel free to send me an email from my site.

  23. June 10, 2008

    Loweeel

    GV, here we go. It’s summer; it’s past memorial day. You haven’t done *any* PS since my Birthday shoutout in Feb.

    So… tomorrow is BIG ASS BBQ WINES! Have a cheeseburger and some hotdogs and chow down as you sample these wines.

    1. Summers Estate Charbono 2006 (40091)
    You carry one Charbono. You reviewed just one Charbono in the past, but that was Dick Vermeil’s — why not tell us about the one you carry. I’ve had the Tofanelli, and thought it was like a mid-range zin, only more complex. Interesting stuff. (Grilled duck breast or gourmet sausage)

    2. Laurona Montsant 2003 (27994) — Your only Montsant at the moment (and I think it’s cool that Montsant is the doughnut around Priorat). Well rated (92 JM), $22, and the notes make it sound like a good wine for BBQ. (Alternatively, a Priorat would work well too).

    3. My current PS QPR Champion: 2005 Concannon Petite Sirah Limited Release (38487)
    Widely available, the supermarket across the street for me has it for TEN BONES. Not only that, but you favorably reviewed the ‘04 at 89 last year, so it’s a nice segue from today’s show to tomorrow’s. (Let this breathe for more than the usual 2 hours). (Cheeseburger with BBQ sauce))

  24. June 10, 2008

    Kev and Ams

    QOTD: Three sparklers under 14 bones.

    Freixenet Cordon Negro Brut – http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=17450

    Althea Prosecco – http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=39251

    Raventos I Blanc Cava – http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=27133

  25. June 10, 2008

    laurie in VT

    QOTD:
    Some random thoughts between severe thunderstorms-
    Lebanese wines:
    Chat Musar Cuvee White 2004
    Ksara Chardonnay 2005
    Chat Musar 1999
    Massaya Gold Reserve 2004

    I also like Dr T from N. Carolina’s idea….

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