89 Point Wines, What Is The Deal!

89 Point Wines, What Is The Deal! – Episode #482

June 10, 2008

So many people stay away from the 89 point scored wines like it has the black plague, WHY? Gary Vaynerchuk explores these wines!

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“Just opened the 2006 Denner Theresa after sitting on it for about 2 ye…” by LEAH
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Wines tasted in this episode:

2006 Travis ChardonnayOther California Chardonnay
2006 Denner TheresaOther California White Rhone V
2004 Mas Carlot Cab/syrahSouthwest France
2005 Core RedOther California Rhone Blends

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June 11, 2008

Smahlatz
QOTD : Cab Sav under 10 Bones? I live in the UK – that’s like 5 Pounds – good luck!
June 11, 2008

YoungDave
QOTD: “The OTHER French Sparklers, ALL UNDER 20 BONES!”
>>>Like you, I love sparkling wine almost as much as I love finding a value, and with Champagne being so branded and often pricey (sometimes regardless of quality), this ep. showcases French sparklers at reasonable prices, with no Champagnes.

1) Baumard Carte Turquoise Cremant De Loire – library # 33035
2) Lucien Albrecht Cremant D’Alsace Brut Rose – library # 8349
3) Merieau Touraine Brut – library # 33291
4) Paul Chollet Cremant De Bourgogne Blanc De Blancs Brut – library # 38172
5) Veuve Ambal Cremant De Bourgogne Carte Tastevin Brut – library # 38614
June 11, 2008

Chrisfs
Great wines and Cheap Skates
Picking the most economical of your “this just in” list

Valdesil Montenovo Godello 2007
Salneval Albarino 2007
Chateau D’oupia Les Heretiques L’herault 2007
Three impressive sounding wines that would break your budget.
June 11, 2008

Chris Stone
Gary, I have a great idea for a show or shows. How about have a random employee of Winelibrary do a duo with you. Intro them a little, where they are from, what they do, how long they have been there, and then ask them to taste wines with you and be honest about what they sniffy sniff and taste. What they like and don’t like.

I would love to see more of Winelibrary peeps as well as get a view point from younger palettes. They could even give it an amateur score of like 89+ or whatever.

Good luck Gary and congrats on joining Revision 3. I love those guys and watch their shows all the time.
June 11, 2008

John Hanna
QOTD:

Woody Wednesday

Woodward Canyon Old Vine Cabernet Sauvignon 2004

That is the only woody wine you have in stock. bummer.

Too bad you don’t have the 2004 Leonetti Reserve and Quilceda in stock.

That would be insane with a big thick juicy rib-eye and some flourless chocolate cake.
June 11, 2008

MattyO
gary,

ok, maybe i’m the only one who feels this way, but…i think the whole ordeal with the missing ending wasn’t that big of a deal. in fact it was kind of fun. i like a little spice.

my advice, don’t worry about that one…come out swingin tomorrow!
June 11, 2008

victor
“To air is human – to forgive the wine….”
How about evaluating 1 wine (your choice), pop and pour, breathing in bottle 1,4, 8 hrs and overnight. Decanting? How does breathing & decanting change a wine?
June 11, 2008

medo
PLEASE bring some German wines back in!

EP #483: Fresh & crisp – Rieslings from Germany

Eifel Alte Reben Von Roten Schiefer 2005 #30771
Dr Karl Christoffel Riesling Trocken 2006 #35985
Kuhn Riesling Graziosa 2006 #34281

+ A Riesling sprakler:

Stefan Reuter Riesling Sekt 2002 #28171
June 11, 2008

Dan Manu
QOTD: Dan’s Aussie (Non-Barossa) wines that bring the thunder!

Gary, you promised me in an email a few months ago that you’d do a show on lesser known Aussie wines. Something other than Barossa Shiraz, so here it is… ok The last wine has some Barossa shiraz in it but is a multi regional blend… and it’s my fave big big red so lay off me!

Pewsey Vale Riesling 2006
http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=39654
Never had this before but… 91points WS for 12 bones. I’ll let you be the judge.

Tyrrell’s Semillon Vat 1 2000
http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=37957
Not exactly rocking the QPR but this would be a good example of what Aussie Hunter Valley Semillon has to offer. This is the only one i can find in your stock.

Paringa Sparkling Shiraz
http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=29960
This one’s for you Gary… I know you love the bubbles and we down here like to think sparkling shiraz is a bit of an Aussie classic! Also from one of my fave regions… the Mornington Peninsula in Victoria, this wine is all about the QPR!

Penfolds Cab/shiraz Bin 389 2005
http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=37276
My favourite BIG Aussie red, the “Poor Man’s Grange” comes in at a crazy 25bones in the US! We pay double that over here!
June 11, 2008

Mango
Other Italian Wines

Cavallotto Freisa Bricco Boschis 2005, Library Code: 35158
Librandi Ciro Duca San Felice 2004, Library Code: 37438
Icardi Moscato D’asti, Library Code: 19407

Man up GV and put a Freisa or a Ciro on WLTV!
June 11, 2008

Yargh!
QOTD: Wines from Sicily you’ve never heard of or tried:

http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=37606
http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=37758
http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=39416

These would be interesting; although I would be more interested in a tasting of wines from Planeta but you don’t carry them.
June 11, 2008

Andrew D
Hi Gary

Great show; thanks.

QOTD: What wines would I like to see presented on tomorrow’s show?

Now one thing that gets me at times is the constant slagging of Australian wines as big, but simple fruit bombs. Now I can’t deny that this isn’t true at times (and you could perhaps argue that the American export market is at times driving the production of this style), BUT generalising about Australian wine like this is a great miss-justice. I live in Hong Kong and don’t drink that much Australian wine here, but most of the wines I buy for my ‘cellar’ back home in Australian are not Fruit bombs and are not South Australian Shiraz. Australia has a diverse range of different wine regions producing unique and distinctly different wines.

So I was going to suggest a show on one of Australia’s lesser know regions – perhaps Tasmanian Sparkling, Yarra Valley Pinot or Hunter Shiraz (med bodied, dry and earthy; just like I assume you’d like!). I looked through the Wine Library catalogue for the first time and was pretty disturbed to find that so many wine styles and regions were represented.
No Coonawarra Cabernet!
No Mornington or Yarra Valley Pinot Noir!
No Tasmanian Sparkling!
No high quality Hunter Shiraz!
No Grampians Shiraz!
No Marsanne (oldest plantings in the World)!
Only one Rose (why no Turkey Flat when you stock their other wines?)!
Only one Rutherglen Fortified (some of the best value fortifieds in the world)!

So my suggestions highlight some of Australia’s contributions to the World’s fine wine that aren’t bold South Australian Shiraz (A STYLE WE DO WELL BUT IT”S NOT ALL WE DO!!!!)
Here goes:
1) Morris – decent Rutherglen fortified – http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=17338
2) Tyrrellâ€™s Vat 1 – a decent Hunter Semillon – http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=37957
3) Mt Mary – a decent Yarra Valley Cabernet – http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=33259
4) Cullen – a decent Margaret River Cabernet – http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=35241

5) A sentimental favourite; Pikes Riesling – http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=9685

Cheers
I hope the above wasn’t too much of a rant
Andrew
June 11, 2008

Michael M
QOTD: “A 10, 100, and 1000 Dollar Rioja”

http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=39084

http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=37748

http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=21510
June 11, 2008

jennieB!
http://winelibrary.com/search.asp?search=verde&x=0&y=0

I was going to say – the 3 best lo-alcohol ’school-night’ wines…

but then I saw such a thing as ‘vinho verde’ red and I’m fascinated.

any 2 of the whites + the red would be great…
June 11, 2008

tnfdude
QOTD: How about a show on Gattinara? I’m surprised there hasn’t been one yet…

Antoniolo Gattinara Osso San Grato 2003
Library Code: 30782

Travaglini Gattinara 2003
Library Code: 39665

And maybe a Barolo or Barbaresco thrown in, just for comparison?
June 11, 2008

JonBLodi
Try three Petite Sirahs:

38807 – 2005 Earthquake Lodi $20.98
60570 – 200X Bogle California $8.99
36877 – 2006 Rosenblum Heritage Clones Contra Costa $13.99
June 11, 2008

J Crazy
Don’t have time to search the wines of winelib right now but thought tasting wines “The oldest and newest from the oldest.”
Have some super old school producer/wines/grapes from Greece go head to head with some of the newest kids on the block.
June 11, 2008

Paulie D
Please review blind: Groth Cabernet Sauvignon 2005,Relativity Cabernet Sauvignon 2005, and Realm Cabernet Sauvignon Dr Crane 2005
June 11, 2008

Eli
I see that a bunch of other people asked for wines from Sardinia, from Greece, from Lebanon and from Israel. Although I like my original idea of choosing one from each country, I would be happy to see a whole episode on each country separately (although you recently did an Israeli show).
June 11, 2008

Saftig
Never a dull moment on the show. Don’t get your knickers in a twist over what some have to say. Keep your eyes on the prize-changing the wine world.
QOTD: A salute to Canucks-Okanagan wines, Canadian Icewine, Riesling etc. A Great White North show would be appreciated.
June 11, 2008

Eli
Wines of the Mediterranean.

http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=39581 (Lebanon)
http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=8828 (Greece)
http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=38717 (Israel)
http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=36151 (Sardinia)

I wish you had a Turkish wine too. There are a whole bunch of fancy new Turkish, Greek and Lebanese restaurants opening in NYC (Pera, Kellari, ilili), and they seem to be proud of each others’ wines. Even even the Turkish restaurants have Greek wines, and the Lebanese restaurants have Israeli wines.
June 11, 2008

willrun4wine
QOTD: I also would enjoy a port tasting. Just the smell of port usually scares me, so I would like to learn more about it.
June 11, 2008

WineWoman
Thanks for the complete version of episode 477. Was just curious. We know what you’re all about and love you for it.

QOTD: Red, White, and Blue Patriotism.

Code Red 34079
Code Blue 38836
Code White 37555

Not barbecue wines, but reason to celebrate on the 4th of July. Maybe a necessary 4th wine for the 4th. Undoubtedly a sparkling Rose by J. Think you only carry the white. Should stock the Rose, if you don’t already.
June 11, 2008

Kristen
Excellent episode today GV- lots of energy! Btw, I share your sister’s birthday!

QOTD: “Pink Thunder”
http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=39977
http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=11884
http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=39538
June 11, 2008

MarkinTokyo
Hi Gary. QOTD – 1. How about a show on old wines – literally the oldest vintages that you can find, well outside their drinking windows?
2. Also not sure if you’ve done it but Sardinian Wines? 3. Also wine packaging – a show on wines out of the heaviest bottles in the store in terms of weight and asking why wineries need to use unnecessary amounts of packaging to stand out (environmental angle/wines supposed to be big and powerful but actually aren’t) etc. etc.

Thanks for the link to the blind tasting episode. Was interesting to see the other 5 and how they ranked.

Congratulations on doing a tough job well.