89 Point Wines, What Is The Deal! – Episode #482

June 10, 2008

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So many people stay away from the 89 point scored wines like it has the black plague, WHY? Gary Vaynerchuk explores these wines!

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Wines tasted in this episode:

2006 Travis ChardonnayOther California Chardonnay play review at cork'd
2006 Denner TheresaOther California White Rhone V play review at cork'd
2004 Mas Carlot Cab/syrahSouthwest France play review at cork'd
2005 Core RedOther California Rhone Blends play review at cork'd

Links mentioned in todays episode.

188 Responses

  1. June 10, 2008

    dennis

    i kiss my fam all the time! its in my culture! =)

  2. June 10, 2008

    Karl Laczko

    What, seriously – First?

  3. June 10, 2008

    Sean

    I’m in the top 10?

  4. June 10, 2008

    portland guy

    GV — we all know you are a wonderful human, honest and truthful. Just that you made a biggie slip that you have now corrected — now, that’s very good form. Well done. But you can still throw Mott under the bus.

  5. June 10, 2008

    waibeans

    top 5 how can this be?

  6. June 10, 2008

    Kurt M

    I will be watching episode # 477 soon !

    Thanks Gary !

  7. June 10, 2008

    Hinrgman

    Another great episode

  8. June 10, 2008

    Hinrgman

    everyone is waiting

  9. June 10, 2008

    Sean

    I have to agree with Portland Guy. Good form, GV. A great response that should make almost everyone happy.

  10. June 10, 2008

    Karl Laczko

    Liked the espisode, think you’ve done the right thing in the way you’ve finished off the whole #477 thing, please don’t throw Mott under a bus, but warn him HIS e-mail box is about to become seriously overloaded!!

    QOTD – Australian Riesling (Clare or Eden Valley). Can’t tell what you’ve got in stock, you figure!

    Keep well Gary….

  11. June 10, 2008

    Wine ratings: Just to clear something up: 85 pts is a very good wine | Food, Wine, Culture and Baltimore Living

    [...] A few hours after putting this post up, WineLibraryTV addressed this very issue.  For Gary Vaynerchuk’s perspective on this issue and his evaluation of some “89″ point wines, check out “89 Point Wines, What Is The Deal?” [...]

  12. June 10, 2008

    Withnail

    Ha – great idea for a topic. I’ve been enjoying a $12.99 “89-point”
    wine off and on for the last several months and it is great.

  13. June 10, 2008

    bitpakkit

  14. June 10, 2008

    Robert

    Thanks for giving us the rest of Episode 477. Very interesting.

  15. June 10, 2008

    Brian

    Hmm……What to say? Gary, thanks. Thanks for bringing wine into my world, and taking the intimidation away from wine. I cant wait to see episode 477 because im curious…and with a lil bit of you im looking for a red anyway. But another great show..thanks for being honest about everything

    QTOD: Dont have links, Dont have a Title, but I would love to see you review some Rieslings, I found they are very good. Just surprise us with some.

    OR

    Show me something that I may not of heard of or seen EVER…I love to see something new that i havent seen and should keep an eye out for.

    Thanks

  16. June 10, 2008

    thecobalt9

    QOTD:

    Title: The Parkerization of ROOT Bombs

    1. A&W Root Beer (NV)
    2. Barqs Root Beer (NV)
    3. A&P Store Brand Root Beer (NV)
    4. Doc’s Root Beer (NV)

    big ups to the REAL sparkling american legacy….

  17. June 10, 2008

    ev

    QOD-Ribera del Duero!
    3,21.Condado de Haza OR Pesquera
    8.Emilio Moro 2005 Ribera del Duero
    12.Alonso del Yerro Maria ribera del Duero

  18. June 10, 2008

    Claes

    Wow.. never guessed a 89 point rating could put that many people off buying it?

    QOTD: I’d like to see another champagne episode! We both know you love the stuff :)

    1) R.H. Coutier Brut Tradition
    2) Legras Brut Blanc De Blancs
    3) Veuve Clicquot Rare 1988

  19. June 10, 2008

    Neil

    QOTD: Tempranillo EP
    Marques De Vargas Reserva 2003 Type: Rioja CODE 35419
    Finca Allende Calvario Rioja 2002 Type: Rioja Library Code 2891
    Villacreces Nebro 2005 Type: Ribera Del Duero Code 39240

  20. June 10, 2008

    Loweeel

    top 20!

  21. June 10, 2008

    chalz

    QOTD:
    I love vertical flight shows. Pick something (5) WL has in stock, maybe a white since it is never vertically shown, and that would be great!

    Call it “White wines CAN jump” ha ha
    Charlie

  22. June 10, 2008

    Dr T from N. Carolina

    Couples’ Wines, for those celebrating their anniversaries

    Domaine Hetszolo Tokaji Late Harvest 38559

    Lustau Palo Cortado Sherry 24929

    Rare Wine Co Charleston Sercial 2809

    ’cause bubbles ain’t the only way to be romantic!

  23. June 10, 2008

    Michael Mohammadi

    Great show, GV, way to step it up.

    QOTD: Tomorrow is Wineblogging Wednesday so why not join in on the theme of “White Rhone Varietals” – I’m suggesting:
    2006 Guigal St. Joseph Lieu-dit White
    2005 Robert Niero Ravines Condrieu
    2004 Arnoux Jean Marie Vacqueras

  24. June 10, 2008

    JudeMurphy

    I wanna see some huge, expensive French wines tomorrow, Gary!
    ; )
    I also wanna know what sort of music you like..!

    (As do all the artistic vayniacs like myself who aren’t interested in football!)
    (You’ve got to have some interest in the arts with a palate like that!)

  25. June 10, 2008

    Rick D

    QOTD:
    Gary,

    Suggestion for the next Thunder Show:

    Southern Rhone – on the Cheap with Cotes Du Rhone

    2005 La-romaine Cotes Du Rhone

    2005 Grand Veneur Cotes Du Rhone

    2005 Patrick Lesec Bouquet Cotes Du Rhone

    All 12 bones

  26. June 10, 2008

    hugh

    Here’s tomorrow’s show!!!!(with Father’s Day in mind):

    “Who’s your daddy? Big wines for the big man of the house-Petite Sirah for your Father’s Day BBQ:

    http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=33843
    http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=40041
    http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=37186

    3 P.S.’s in different price ranges….and on a personal note…I have loved the Elyse PS in the past (not just cause it’s my Daughter’s name!!)so i’d love to see how it rocks…..and if u decide not to pick my choices….that’s cool…i’ll just find a corner and cry…..

  27. June 10, 2008

    rvensel

    Qotd: Just checked the website and wine library doesn’t carry them. But I’d recommend an all “Breitenbach” show featuring the later harvest riesling and others. but thats a homer pick since they’re from ohio and so I am.

  28. June 10, 2008

    Bill Gaertner

    This will prove to be the end of my Lurking. Great show. Here’s my suggestion:

    Carignan from All Over the World:
    Capichera Assaje 2005
    Matassa Rouge 2004
    Closa Batllet Priorat 2004

  29. June 10, 2008

    hugh

    Here’s tomorrow’s show!!!!(with Father’s Day in mind):

    “Who’s your daddy? Big wines for the big man of the house-Petite Sirah for your Father’s Day BBQ:

    http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=33843
    http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=40041
    http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=37186

    3 P.S.’s in different price ranges….and on a personal note…I have loved the Elyse PS in the past (not just cause it’s my Daughter’s name!!)so i’d love to see how it rocks…..and if u decide not to pick my choices….that’s cool…i’ll just find a corner and cry…..

  30. June 10, 2008

    Susan

    Gary- QOTD: Would love to see more affordable grower champagnes!!! Thanks!!! :)

  31. June 10, 2008

    hugh

    oops-sorry for the duplicate post!!

  32. June 10, 2008

    bronsont

    Bring the Thunder, Feel the Love… Doesn’t matter that you sell the wine, I trust you to be objective. I’ll bet most of your customers don’t watch Wine Library TV, and I bet most watchers never buy anything from you. Keep it up!

  33. June 10, 2008

    Omallley

    Great show, and thanks for the opportunity to see what the other wines were from 477.

    QOTD: A great way to continue expanding our palates and bringing some excellent QPR to the masses – “Madeira: The other fortified wine from Portugal”

    Lineup of 4 wines:
    http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=2808
    http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=2809
    http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=16213
    http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=14533

    And you have the added bonus of having some great Americana to tie in (used to toast the Declaration of Independence, etc, etc.)

  34. June 10, 2008

    randy d

    QOTD: gary here are my three wine all Spaniards.
    http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=39741
    http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=37214
    http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=2881

    ok gary i picked these three wines because of a few reasons. I think you could have dinner with them start to finish and also the txacoli i belive you have never reviewed a wine made of this grape and it is one of my faves. the muga is literally my favorite wine I have ever had the pleasure of drinking, and the pedro 1927 because i just couldnt believe RP gave this wine a 96. Thanks so much and please please DO THIS SHOW.

  35. June 10, 2008

    George Fornadley

    I have tried to listen to your last two shows to learn what happened with the cab blind test. Well you babble so much I couldn’t take it and turned you off both times. So I don’t know what happened. I watch less and less of your shows. Twenty minutes out of my life for school yard games is too much for me ie a waste of my time. Put the dolls away and grow up. The only reason your on national TV is because they cater to buffoons of the world. Get some class man.

  36. June 10, 2008

    randy d

    by the way when i said txacoli is one of my faves i meant as a whole not that particular wine.

  37. June 10, 2008

    Omallley

    Great show, and thanks for the opportunity to see what the other wines were from 477.

    QOTD: A great way to continue expanding our palates and bringing some excellent QPR to the masses – “Madeira: The other fortified wine from Portugal”

    Lineup of 4 wines: (Winelibrary only carries 4 Madeiras…so including Leacocks Rainwater Madiera, Rare Wine Co Charleston Sercial, Rare Wine Co New York Malmsey, and Blandy’s 15 Year Malmsey might be an easy sell :)

    And you have the added bonus of having some great Americana to tie in (used to toast the Declaration of Independence, etc, etc.)

  38. June 10, 2008

    purplejuicebruce

    Petite Sirah the greatest grape ever fermented!
    Eos Petite Sirah
    McManis Petite Sirah
    Victor Hugo Petite Sirah
    Guenoc Petite Sirah
    Petite Petite Michael David Petite Sirah

  39. June 10, 2008

    laurie in VT

    QOTD:
    Some random thoughts between severe thunderstorms-
    Lebanese wines:
    Chat Musar Cuvee White 2004
    Ksara Chardonnay 2005
    Chat Musar 1999
    Massaya Gold Reserve 2004

    I also like Dr T from N. Carolina’s idea….

  40. June 10, 2008

    Kev and Ams

    QOTD: Three sparklers under 14 bones.

    Freixenet Cordon Negro Brut – http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=17450

    Althea Prosecco – http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=39251

    Raventos I Blanc Cava – http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=27133

  41. June 10, 2008

    Loweeel

    GV, here we go. It’s summer; it’s past memorial day. You haven’t done *any* PS since my Birthday shoutout in Feb.

    So… tomorrow is BIG ASS BBQ WINES! Have a cheeseburger and some hotdogs and chow down as you sample these wines.

    1. Summers Estate Charbono 2006 (40091)
    You carry one Charbono. You reviewed just one Charbono in the past, but that was Dick Vermeil’s — why not tell us about the one you carry. I’ve had the Tofanelli, and thought it was like a mid-range zin, only more complex. Interesting stuff. (Grilled duck breast or gourmet sausage)

    2. Laurona Montsant 2003 (27994) — Your only Montsant at the moment (and I think it’s cool that Montsant is the doughnut around Priorat). Well rated (92 JM), $22, and the notes make it sound like a good wine for BBQ. (Alternatively, a Priorat would work well too).

    3. My current PS QPR Champion: 2005 Concannon Petite Sirah Limited Release (38487)
    Widely available, the supermarket across the street for me has it for TEN BONES. Not only that, but you favorably reviewed the ‘04 at 89 last year, so it’s a nice segue from today’s show to tomorrow’s. (Let this breathe for more than the usual 2 hours). (Cheeseburger with BBQ sauce))

  42. June 10, 2008

    Loweeel

    purplejuicebruce — click on my name :) And feel free to send me an email from my site.

  43. June 10, 2008

    DaveyDonut

    Gary,

    Yes, I got an email at 3am saying, “I am not a bad guy.” First I thought, “Why the hell is Gary up at 3am?!?” but then I was sad that you somehow thought I was being negative, because I wasn’t at all! In your comments today you seem to be saying that those who commented questioning your reason for not airing the episode are in someway negatively judging your character, and I think that’s completely off, at least in my case! I haven’t missed a single episode (live, I don’t mean I went back in the archives) in nearly two years, and I love this movement and what you’re doing. My point was kind of the OPPOSITE of how you took it. I KNOW you’re a good guy and not trying to just sell the wine. I KNOW the episode was filmed blind, and you didn’t know what the wines were. Therefore, I wouldn’t have thought it was setup when I saw that your wine won. I would have thought, “That’s cool! He really IS trusting his own palate, since he didn’t know what the wines were yet the wine produced for his company wound up being the best value.” I’m sure you didn’t just go to a bar in California and say, “Anyone have any left over juice they want to bottle for me?” I’m sure you chose the producer carefully, etc.

    I really wouldn’t have had a problem with not seeing the ending due to your explanation IF you hadn’t said at the end that your wine won! After you said that, the whole reason for not airing it went right out the window. :-)

    Perhaps there’s so many Vayniacs that you don’t recognize my name in the comments, or recall the emails we’ve exchanged… but I’ve been here pretty darn early and wouldn’t be questioning your character with the move. However, that doesn’t mean that I think every choice you may make is correct, and I think everyone should be able to hear constructive criticism from those who are around them without assuming the person is somehow judging them negatively. And likewise, when you meet ME in real life, you’ll see that while I may come across very straight forward and direct in type (read: asshole), I’m actually quite loving! Hopefully I’ll make it to the Portland book signing (though I already have two signed copies from Woot??), but remember when I invited you to my house in email last year after the my malt liquor spoof didn’t win the Vayniac contest, but the winner was in Portland? You said you’d come a day early for a drink. :-) Anyway, I still love you Gary, don’t worry! And thanks for allowing us to see the episode… Already got the email from Mott!

    QOTD: Oh… I don’t know… 2005 Burgundy that you promised in several episodes and I wrote you a big long email about (though I’ve mostly figured out those answers by now)? ;-) Or are those already sold out? Actually, I already have my 6 cases of 2005 Burgundy, and now I’m on to 2004 Piedmonte and Veneto, which is suppose to rule. I just got half a case of each of the following from you, but haven’t popped any yet:

    39345 – Manzone Barolo Bricat Gramolere 2004 (93 points Tanzer AND Galloni)
    38085 – Bussola Amarone Bg 2004

    I’d love to hear your thoughts on those. But you said three… so…

    38225 – Zenato Amarone 2004

    David

  44. June 10, 2008

    Richard N

    QOTD: Here is what I came up with!

    West Coast and New Zealand:

    New Zealand: Whitehaven Sauvignon Blanc 2007
    California: St Francis Pagani Zinfandel 2004
    Oregon: Adelsheim Pinot Noir 2006
    Washington: Andrew Will Sorella 2004

  45. June 10, 2008

    kallardnyc

    WL Staffers and their Wine

    Brandon’s pick – Guillon Gevrey Chambertin Pere Galland 2006 (One of my favs)

    Ian’s pick – Boedecker Athena Pinot Noir 2005

    Matt’s pick – Dr Karl Christoffel Wehlener Sonnenuhr Riesling Spatlese 2006

    And if you have time…

    Dennis’ pick – Vinedos Dos Victorias Elias Mora Toro 2006

    Bo Carlson
    kallardnyc
    The Shadow

  46. June 10, 2008

    Robin C

    QOTD: Any of the below:
    Arietta On The White Keys 2005 Library Code|34091
    Hoage Syrah/ Grenache Forty Six 2004 Library Code|299
    Mcprice Myers Cuvee Kristina 2005 Library Code|39429
    St. Cosme Lex Deux Albions Cotes Du Rhone Rouge 2006 Library Code|38247

  47. June 10, 2008

    Susan

    Gary-Can you scream/yell again for us??????????????!!! wink :) wink :)

  48. June 10, 2008

    grace

    I think I have to go with Dr. T on this one. Dessert wines! I’d throw a port in there.

  49. June 10, 2008

    Kdawg

    QOTD: Title: Finally it’s here, a Red Burgundy Show: Nuits St Georges

    Bust out Library Codes: 34851, 38259, 9549

    c’mon you know you want to do it

  50. June 10, 2008

    maggiej

    QOTD: A show of Wannabe’s, i.e. new world (American) wines that wannabe old world.

    (in no particular order but note different regions and prices)
    Beringer Alluvium Red 2004
    Ramey Claret 2005
    Waterbrook Melange 2005

  51. June 10, 2008

    Susan

    Gary- QOTD: Staff day at WLTV: Let any/ all staff members pick one wine that is a good QPR!!!
    OR
    Do all Spanish Tempranillos that are good QPR’s
    (maybe you could save staff day for a day you are gone?)
    :)

  52. June 10, 2008

    Dale Cruse

    GV, I’ve searched and you’ve never tasted Tavel on The Thunder Show. We all need to expand our palates and taste a great summer rose from France!

    You’ve got two:

    Trinquevedel Tavel Rose: http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=11884
    Domaine Lafond Tavel Rose 2007: http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=39946

    Nice, quick show. Question of the day: Have you ever had a Tavel? If not, make that your goal this weekend!

  53. June 10, 2008

    RieslingRon

    QOTD: Call the show the “Three Amigos from Spain”………..
    Martin Codax Albarino 06………#33148
    Marques de Murrietta Reserva…..#38952
    Protocolo Red NV……………..#17837

    OR

    Your advanced Sherry episode

  54. June 10, 2008

    Lawrence Leichtman

    I would like to see some American Gewürtztraminers reviewed. Maybe some Rose’s from other than US, Australia or France as well. I haven’t watched yesterdays’s show so I don’t know what was the finish with the blind tasting.

  55. June 10, 2008

    KVolk

    QOTD: blind tasting of cab….version 2

  56. June 10, 2008

    John Farrin

    QOTD:I’d like to see a comparison of, at least on paper, seem to be great QPR’s. They are two Oregon pinots from the same winery and the same price.
    Boedecker Athena Pinot Noir 2005 #38080 $29.98
    Boedecker Stewart Pinot Noir 2005 #39933 $29.98

  57. June 10, 2008

    Jimmy T

    QOTD: I only saw a couple of episodes where you have done port. The only real focus I saw was episode 102 on Vintage Ports that run some serious bones out of the wallet and require a lot of time investment. I think I may get one for my newborn to share when she turns 21. Anyway, I think an episode showcasing the LBV Ports and some explanation of the different choices Ports offer in Ruby, Tawny, LBV and Vinatage would help with bringing great value today to those interested expanding the pal outside of the RED/WHITE wine drinking.

    Show Title: Poor man’s Port: Late Bottled Vintage Port

    http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=36030
    http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=36030
    http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=36339

    Alright homey. Hope to meet you some day.

  58. June 10, 2008

    Tom Jones

    Gary do not worry about what people say just keep fighting the good fight. I know everyone you met in Houston town would agree when I say that we Vayniacs trust your intentions. :-)

  59. June 10, 2008

    Brian Tannebaum

    idea for show – tribute to criminals

    The Guilty 04 or 05 – aussie shiraz (winemaker is George Shinas – criminal judge in Aus.)

    The Prisoner – Zin – Orin Swift 92 or 93 parker I think

    Innocent Bystander – Shiraz/Viogner I think

  60. June 10, 2008

    PaVo

    QOTD: I debated and debated this but I really would love for you to do a show on Canadian Reds, specifically from BC. I know you highlighted the Osoyoos a number of episodes back, but MAN Canada has some great ones. I am lucky enough to have a wonderful girlfriend who lives in the Vancouver area, who has encouraged my tasting and totally embraced trying anything and everything in the win world. And whenever I go up there I get to try these amazing wines. I know WL doesn’t have any reds from BC( just some ice wines) so maybe it’s a later show sometime. But there are some really great things. The 2nd label from Osoyoos is amazing, had it on my last trip up there. Along with some really interesting varietals that I’d never heard of; Baco Noir for instance. Gosh this is getting long winded. ANYWAYS, I’d call it “Not just America’s Hat: Great reds from Canada”

    Maybe if it’s not tomorrow for lack of BC reds maybe some other time.

  61. June 10, 2008

    Jimmy T

    Sorry to waste the space but I wanted to see if this comment “awaits moderation”. I don’t understand why it does that when it’s not my first time.

  62. June 10, 2008

    manonthemoon

    Great show today.

    QOTD: Love the idea of a trio of 05 spanish wines with an oddball thrown in.

    40101 Pintia Toro Tinto 2005

    38889 Pesquera Crianza 2005

    40014 Felix Callejo Crianza 2005

    40091 Summers Estate Charbono 2006

  63. June 10, 2008

    Jimmy T

    QOTD: I only saw a couple of episodes where you have done port. The only real focus I saw was episode 102 on Vintage Ports that run some serious bones out of the wallet and require a lot of time investment. I think I may get one for my newborn to share when she turns 21. Anyway, I think an episode showcasing the LBV Ports and some explanation of the different choices Ports offer in Ruby, Tawny, LBV and Vintage would help with bringing great value today to those interested expanding the pal outside of the RED/WHITE wine drinking.

    Show Title: Poor man’s Port: Late Bottled Vintage Port

    http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=36030
    http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=36030
    http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=36339

    Alright homey. Hope to meet you some day.

  64. June 10, 2008

    JonE

    Can’t say I didn’t have high hopes for the CORE. But there’s nothing worse than a hollow mid palate, nothing to hold onto.

    QOTD:As Paula Abdul once said “opposites attract”

    http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=36486

    http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=5352

    http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=33921

  65. June 10, 2008

    Len

    QOTD: Anything will do…just bring the thunder Gary…and do your thing! Love your show…keep it up. Maybe do the staff’s picks or any wine on your top 10 list.

  66. June 10, 2008

    amgryger

    QOTD: How about a proper “Vacqueyras Taste-Off.” WLTV search suggests you’ve only done 2 bottles of Vacqueyras and both were back in 2006. Here are 3 covering low, middle, and high price points.

    http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=39064
    http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=9689
    http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=39032

  67. June 10, 2008

    Dominus

    I need to see the episode that is causing all the ruckus. I can’t believe I missed but I know one thing, you are always on the up-and-up.

    QOTD:

    Alpha Omega Prop Red
    http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=37339

    Bucklin Zin
    http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=39385

    and of course

    Dominus 2004
    http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=32987

    Be cool.

    Cheers

  68. June 10, 2008

    Scott

    Gary, thanks for emailing me at 1:30 a.m.. Your a good man.

  69. June 10, 2008

    Tommy Vernieri

    Great show Gary, it’s good to have you back doing them “live”. You bring crazy energy everyday. Don’t let people get you down.

    QOTD: That’s a tough one, how do you manage to pick wines for each show?
    I’ve been filling out my wishlist with cheap wines, lets see you take them on. Do you think anything will bring it?

    Cheap, Cheap Pink Wines, Any Thunder To Be Found?

    Moncao Danaide Vinho Verde Red 2007, $5 – 34026
    Vinho Verde. Pink? What?

    Jean Luc Colombo Cote Bleue Rose 2006, $6 – 33924
    The importer says “intriguing notes of raspberry, cherry and black olive.” I’m intrigued.

    Montaud Rose Cotes De Provence 2007, $7 – 39547
    What do you have to say about Provonce rose? I don’t know anything about it, but I feel like I should.

  70. June 10, 2008

    SteveW

    QOTD:
    Three Merlots from around the World:
    1) http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=39219
    2) http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=39488
    3) http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=38715

  71. June 10, 2008

    Little Jonny H

    GV, I think the peeps are blew things up way too much regarding last weeks 10 dollar cab episode…. they just need to lighten up a bit. It’s not like this is the 6 o’clock news or something and the episode caused a riot! We’re talking about wine, people!

    QOTD: Too many choices for me to decide… maybe a mooch money muscat show (cheap muscats)! There are many variations on this grape, and I’d love to learn about the the versatility of this varietal. Some do dry wines, some do super-concentrated dessert wines (also old and new world)! 39817, 39817, & 17360 would fit the bill!

  72. June 10, 2008

    torquey

    QOTD:

    Go Big or Stay Home – Library Codes 29475, 15117, 15571

    or

    Garagiste-palooza: – Library Codes 13101, 12067, 39083

  73. June 10, 2008

    Aaron S.

    GREAT Question of the Day!!!! P.S. 13 is my lucky number!

    QOTD:

    Title: Kosher Thunder, or The Episode To End All Doubts About Kosher Wine!

    Wines:

    1. Kadesh Barnea Gilad 2005 – http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=31161
    Petit Verdot, Merlot, and Shiraz/Syrah… and we all know how much you love P.V.!
    2. Domaine Du Castel 2005 – http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=37867
    I’m pretty sure this is Cab (Sauvignon), Merlot, and Petit Verdot. I think you did the ‘03 vintage a while back?
    3. Jonathan Tishbi Sde Boker Special Reserve 2004 – http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=39916
    Obviously from page 196 of “101 Wines”; can I get a “link it up”? Cab, Merlot, and Cabernet Franc.

    Presumably this would go along with a little diatribe a la GV about the history of kosher wine, why it gets a bad rap (cough cough Manischewitz cough cough; not that I don’t appreciate the tradition it represents, but let’s be honest… use of the Concord grape has given kosher wine horrible street cred), and why kosher wine coming out of Israel (and Napa; I did see Friday’s Covenant episode) is turning out to be so good (e.g. winemakers trained at places like UC Davis (Yair Margalit) and with experience from quality California, Australian, etc. wineries (such as Golan Tishbi and Victor Schoenfeld). Maybe a little something about Daniel Rogov? A Gary V. trip to Israeli boutique wineries? Who knows?

    Anyways, that is my show idea for tomorrow. Thanks! Oh, and by the way, I think what you did with yesterday’s show (giving the full and clear explanation of what happened in episode 477) was definitely the right thing to do. That said, I’m going to go watch “The Lost Episode” now! :-) All the best!

  74. June 10, 2008

    David Harris

    I like Omallley’s Madeira show idea.

    I wanted to see a show on Vin Jaune, but you only have two in stock.

  75. June 10, 2008

    BW

    QOTD : My wife & I just got back from a trip to Spain, including several days in Rioja. Tasted / drank a bunch of wines. Here is a list of what I would say are good QPR’s – we tasted / drank all of these & have our notes . Would love to hear your take on them & I think the QPR driven Vayner nation would also enjoy your take :

    1) Predicador – library # 37927
    2) El Puntido – library # 30676
    3) San Vicente – library # 38752
    4) Finca Allende – library # 34015
    5) Muga Reserva Seleccion Especial – library # 32639

  76. June 10, 2008

    Adam J

    Gotta love the thunder!
    Qotd: I am expecting my first little one around Newyears so I am curious about some bubbly!!

    1)Jacquart Brut Mosaique 1998- 3072
    2)Pierre Peters Cuvee Speciale Blanc de Blanc 1999- 9709
    3)Legras Brut Champagne Blanc de Blanc- 36865

    Thanks for the show!

  77. June 10, 2008

    BW

    Ooops … only 3 wines …. listed 5 above – pick 3 of the 5

  78. June 10, 2008

    Aaron S.

    GREAT Question of the Day!!!! P.S. 13 is my lucky number!

    QOTD:

    Title: Kosher Thunder, or The Episode To End All Doubts About Kosher Wine!

    Wines:

    1. Kadesh Barnea Gilad 2005 – Library Code 31161
    Petit Verdot, Merlot, and Shiraz/Syrah… and we all know how much you love P.V.!
    2. Domaine Du Castel 2005 – Library Code 37867
    I’m pretty sure this is Cab (Sauvignon), Merlot, and Petit Verdot. I think you did the ‘03 vintage a while back?
    3. Jonathan Tishbi Sde Boker Special Reserve 2004 – Library Code 39916
    Obviously from page 196 of “101 Wines”; can I get a “link it up”? Cab, Merlot, and Cabernet Franc.

    Presumably this would go along with a little diatribe a la GV about the history of kosher wine, why it gets a bad rap (cough cough Manischewitz cough cough; not that I don’t appreciate the tradition it represents, but let’s be honest… use of the Concord grape has given kosher wine horrible street cred), and why kosher wine coming out of Israel (and Napa; I did see Friday’s Covenant episode) is turning out to be so good (e.g. winemakers trained at places like UC Davis (Yair Margalit) and with experience from quality California, Australian, etc. wineries (such as Golan Tishbi and Victor Schoenfeld). Maybe a little something about Daniel Rogov? A Gary V. trip to Israeli boutique wineries? Who knows?

    Anyways, that is my show idea for tomorrow. Thanks! Oh, and by the way, I think what you did with yesterday’s show (giving the full and clear explanation of what happened in episode 477) was definitely the right thing to do. That said, I’m going to go watch “The Lost Episode” now! All the best!

    P.S. Sorry if this comes across as a double post; I think the links made me go to moderation… so I just went with the Library Codes.

  79. June 10, 2008

    Mike F

    Gary, I am a HUGEEEEE Lurker, first time posting. I would love to see an Amarone Tasting. Library Codes 36357, 35691, and maybe even a surprise curveball 39237. Just a thought…. Keep up the great work!!!!

  80. June 10, 2008

    Moselman

    Aw, shucks, we’re really going to be missing George F. He really had you nailed ;>)

    Got any ehrenfelser in stock? How about some grillo? Round it out with a soave.

    Happy quaffing!

  81. June 10, 2008

    Roberto

    Gary you really rocked today… wow were you on… and yes I did get the 3.00 am email (and immediately replied!! I was up too… 2 hrs less in C Rica) but still. great show…

    QOTD: how about a blind tasting to emulate the Paris tasting of 76? calif. chard vs burgundy… waddaya say?

  82. June 11, 2008

    JR

    Port. We need to see more port. Desperately so. How about 2003 Vintage?
    Graham 2003 2327
    Niepoort 2003 28259
    Quinta Do Noval 2003 3271

    Get people over the idea that its just an old man’s drink. Also us younger viewers need to get into this stuff now so that when its ready to be drunk were still alive.

  83. June 11, 2008

    John D.

    Just wanted to say I appreciate the email Gary. I know you’re a busy guy. Big ups to you. Seriously, I think folks need to spend some time going through the archives to see where all this started and get to know you a little better. Great show and nice to see you rockin’ the hizzy in the thunder saddle!

    QOTD: “Old world wines that bring the thunder and don’t break the bank”. I have no idea what wines that would be, but I’m really curious and would like to try some someday soon!

  84. June 11, 2008

    Arthur

    Gary, as someone who writes about California’s Central coast, I have to take exception to the categorizing (on your store web site) of Monterey and Santa Barbara County wines as “Other California”. That suggests some sort of marginalization of these prominent and important wine regions as if there were only a few scant vines south of San Francisco.

    The Central Coast has as many acres of vines as Napa and Sonoma put together. Furthermore, the regions making up the Cnetral Coast have distinct climates and give very unique wines of high quality.

    With respect,

    Arthur

  85. June 11, 2008

    Chris in Tulsa

    GO OFF THE RADAR WITH SOME WEIRD ANCIENT GREEK WHITE VARIETALS PLUS A RETSINA!!!!!!!!!!!
    QOTD:Dionysus Thunder Wines!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Vatsistas Petroulianaos Peleponnese White 2006 WL code 39934

    Emery Rhodes Athiri 2006 WL code 33738

    Gaia Ritinitis Nobilis Retsina NV WL code 35368

  86. June 11, 2008

    Ryan Graves

    Whenever you say “link it up” I never get a link…? Whats the deal Mott…

    Thanks guys. Love the show!

  87. June 11, 2008

    Mike S,

    Not quite sure why people were so up in arms about last weeks show. It really wasn’t a big deal at all. I couldn’t come up with three, but would love to see 39281 reviewed sometime.

  88. June 11, 2008

    sgevurtz

    Gary, I keep asking for a double blind tasting where you try to geuss the varietal, price-point, geography, etc. Are you afraid or something?

  89. June 11, 2008

    MarkinTokyo

    Hi Gary. QOTD – 1. How about a show on old wines – literally the oldest vintages that you can find, well outside their drinking windows?
    2. Also not sure if you’ve done it but Sardinian Wines? 3. Also wine packaging – a show on wines out of the heaviest bottles in the store in terms of weight and asking why wineries need to use unnecessary amounts of packaging to stand out (environmental angle/wines supposed to be big and powerful but actually aren’t) etc. etc.

    Thanks for the link to the blind tasting episode. Was interesting to see the other 5 and how they ranked.

    Congratulations on doing a tough job well.

  90. June 11, 2008

    Kristen

    Excellent episode today GV- lots of energy! Btw, I share your sister’s birthday!

    QOTD: “Pink Thunder”
    http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=39977
    http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=11884
    http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=39538

  91. June 11, 2008

    WineWoman

    Thanks for the complete version of episode 477. Was just curious. We know what you’re all about and love you for it.

    QOTD: Red, White, and Blue Patriotism.

    Code Red 34079
    Code Blue 38836
    Code White 37555

    Not barbecue wines, but reason to celebrate on the 4th of July. Maybe a necessary 4th wine for the 4th. Undoubtedly a sparkling Rose by J. Think you only carry the white. Should stock the Rose, if you don’t already.

  92. June 11, 2008

    willrun4wine

    QOTD: I also would enjoy a port tasting. Just the smell of port usually scares me, so I would like to learn more about it.

  93. June 11, 2008

    Eli

    Wines of the Mediterranean.

    http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=39581 (Lebanon)
    http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=8828 (Greece)
    http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=38717 (Israel)
    http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=36151 (Sardinia)

    I wish you had a Turkish wine too. There are a whole bunch of fancy new Turkish, Greek and Lebanese restaurants opening in NYC (Pera, Kellari, ilili), and they seem to be proud of each others’ wines. Even even the Turkish restaurants have Greek wines, and the Lebanese restaurants have Israeli wines.

  94. June 11, 2008

    Saftig

    Never a dull moment on the show. Don’t get your knickers in a twist over what some have to say. Keep your eyes on the prize-changing the wine world.
    QOTD: A salute to Canucks-Okanagan wines, Canadian Icewine, Riesling etc. A Great White North show would be appreciated.

  95. June 11, 2008

    Eli

    I see that a bunch of other people asked for wines from Sardinia, from Greece, from Lebanon and from Israel. Although I like my original idea of choosing one from each country, I would be happy to see a whole episode on each country separately (although you recently did an Israeli show).

  96. June 11, 2008

    Paulie D

    Please review blind: Groth Cabernet Sauvignon 2005,Relativity Cabernet Sauvignon 2005, and Realm Cabernet Sauvignon Dr Crane 2005

  97. June 11, 2008

    J Crazy

    Don’t have time to search the wines of winelib right now but thought tasting wines “The oldest and newest from the oldest.”
    Have some super old school producer/wines/grapes from Greece go head to head with some of the newest kids on the block.

  98. June 11, 2008

    JonBLodi

    Try three Petite Sirahs:

    38807 – 2005 Earthquake Lodi $20.98
    60570 – 200X Bogle California $8.99
    36877 – 2006 Rosenblum Heritage Clones Contra Costa $13.99

  99. June 11, 2008

    tnfdude

    QOTD: How about a show on Gattinara? I’m surprised there hasn’t been one yet…

    Antoniolo Gattinara Osso San Grato 2003
    Library Code: 30782

    Travaglini Gattinara 2003
    Library Code: 39665

    And maybe a Barolo or Barbaresco thrown in, just for comparison?

  100. June 11, 2008

    jennieB!

    http://winelibrary.com/search.asp?search=verde&x=0&y=0

    I was going to say – the 3 best lo-alcohol ’school-night’ wines…

    but then I saw such a thing as ‘vinho verde’ red and I’m fascinated.

    any 2 of the whites + the red would be great…

  101. June 11, 2008

    Michael M

    QOTD: “A 10, 100, and 1000 Dollar Rioja”

    http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=39084

    http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=37748

    http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=21510

  102. June 11, 2008

    Andrew D

    Hi Gary

    Great show; thanks.

    QOTD: What wines would I like to see presented on tomorrow’s show?

    Now one thing that gets me at times is the constant slagging of Australian wines as big, but simple fruit bombs. Now I can’t deny that this isn’t true at times (and you could perhaps argue that the American export market is at times driving the production of this style), BUT generalising about Australian wine like this is a great miss-justice. I live in Hong Kong and don’t drink that much Australian wine here, but most of the wines I buy for my ‘cellar’ back home in Australian are not Fruit bombs and are not South Australian Shiraz. Australia has a diverse range of different wine regions producing unique and distinctly different wines.

    So I was going to suggest a show on one of Australia’s lesser know regions – perhaps Tasmanian Sparkling, Yarra Valley Pinot or Hunter Shiraz (med bodied, dry and earthy; just like I assume you’d like!). I looked through the Wine Library catalogue for the first time and was pretty disturbed to find that so many wine styles and regions were represented.
    No Coonawarra Cabernet!
    No Mornington or Yarra Valley Pinot Noir!
    No Tasmanian Sparkling!
    No high quality Hunter Shiraz!
    No Grampians Shiraz!
    No Marsanne (oldest plantings in the World)!
    Only one Rose (why no Turkey Flat when you stock their other wines?)!
    Only one Rutherglen Fortified (some of the best value fortifieds in the world)!

    So my suggestions highlight some of Australia’s contributions to the World’s fine wine that aren’t bold South Australian Shiraz (A STYLE WE DO WELL BUT IT”S NOT ALL WE DO!!!!)
    Here goes:
    1) Morris – decent Rutherglen fortified – http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=17338
    2) Tyrrell’s Vat 1 – a decent Hunter Semillon – http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=37957
    3) Mt Mary – a decent Yarra Valley Cabernet – http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=33259
    4) Cullen – a decent Margaret River Cabernet – http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=35241

    5) A sentimental favourite; Pikes Riesling – http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=9685

    Cheers
    I hope the above wasn’t too much of a rant :)
    Andrew

  103. June 11, 2008

    Yargh!

    QOTD: Wines from Sicily you’ve never heard of or tried:

    http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=37606
    http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=37758
    http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=39416

    These would be interesting; although I would be more interested in a tasting of wines from Planeta but you don’t carry them.

  104. June 11, 2008

    Mango

    Other Italian Wines

    Cavallotto Freisa Bricco Boschis 2005, Library Code: 35158
    Librandi Ciro Duca San Felice 2004, Library Code: 37438
    Icardi Moscato D’asti, Library Code: 19407

    Man up GV and put a Freisa or a Ciro on WLTV!

  105. June 11, 2008

    Dan Manu

    QOTD: Dan’s Aussie (Non-Barossa) wines that bring the thunder!

    Gary, you promised me in an email a few months ago that you’d do a show on lesser known Aussie wines. Something other than Barossa Shiraz, so here it is… ok The last wine has some Barossa shiraz in it but is a multi regional blend… and it’s my fave big big red so lay off me! :)

    Pewsey Vale Riesling 2006
    http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=39654
    Never had this before but… 91points WS for 12 bones. I’ll let you be the judge.

    Tyrrell’s Semillon Vat 1 2000
    http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=37957
    Not exactly rocking the QPR but this would be a good example of what Aussie Hunter Valley Semillon has to offer. This is the only one i can find in your stock.

    Paringa Sparkling Shiraz
    http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=29960
    This one’s for you Gary… I know you love the bubbles and we down here like to think sparkling shiraz is a bit of an Aussie classic! Also from one of my fave regions… the Mornington Peninsula in Victoria, this wine is all about the QPR!

    Penfolds Cab/shiraz Bin 389 2005
    http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=37276
    My favourite BIG Aussie red, the “Poor Man’s Grange” comes in at a crazy 25bones in the US! We pay double that over here!

  106. June 11, 2008

    medo

    PLEASE bring some German wines back in!

    EP #483: Fresh & crisp – Rieslings from Germany

    Eifel Alte Reben Von Roten Schiefer 2005 #30771
    Dr Karl Christoffel Riesling Trocken 2006 #35985
    Kuhn Riesling Graziosa 2006 #34281

    + A Riesling sprakler:

    Stefan Reuter Riesling Sekt 2002 #28171

  107. June 11, 2008

    victor

    “To air is human – to forgive the wine….”
    How about evaluating 1 wine (your choice), pop and pour, breathing in bottle 1,4, 8 hrs and overnight. Decanting? How does breathing & decanting change a wine?

  108. June 11, 2008

    MattyO

    gary,

    ok, maybe i’m the only one who feels this way, but…i think the whole ordeal with the missing ending wasn’t that big of a deal. in fact it was kind of fun. i like a little spice.

    my advice, don’t worry about that one…come out swingin tomorrow!

  109. June 11, 2008

    John Hanna

    QOTD:

    Woody Wednesday

    Woodward Canyon Old Vine Cabernet Sauvignon 2004

    :( That is the only woody wine you have in stock. bummer.

    Too bad you don’t have the 2004 Leonetti Reserve and Quilceda in stock.

    That would be insane with a big thick juicy rib-eye and some flourless chocolate cake.

  110. June 11, 2008

    Chris Stone

    Gary, I have a great idea for a show or shows. How about have a random employee of Winelibrary do a duo with you. Intro them a little, where they are from, what they do, how long they have been there, and then ask them to taste wines with you and be honest about what they sniffy sniff and taste. What they like and don’t like.

    I would love to see more of Winelibrary peeps as well as get a view point from younger palettes. They could even give it an amateur score of like 89+ or whatever.

    Good luck Gary and congrats on joining Revision 3. I love those guys and watch their shows all the time.

  111. June 11, 2008

    Chrisfs

    Great wines and Cheap Skates
    Picking the most economical of your “this just in” list

    Valdesil Montenovo Godello 2007
    Salneval Albarino 2007
    Chateau D’oupia Les Heretiques L’herault 2007
    Three impressive sounding wines that would break your budget.

  112. June 11, 2008

    YoungDave

    QOTD: “The OTHER French Sparklers, ALL UNDER 20 BONES!”
    >>>Like you, I love sparkling wine almost as much as I love finding a value, and with Champagne being so branded and often pricey (sometimes regardless of quality), this ep. showcases French sparklers at reasonable prices, with no Champagnes.

    1) Baumard Carte Turquoise Cremant De Loire – library # 33035
    2) Lucien Albrecht Cremant D’Alsace Brut Rose – library # 8349
    3) Merieau Touraine Brut – library # 33291
    4) Paul Chollet Cremant De Bourgogne Blanc De Blancs Brut – library # 38172
    5) Veuve Ambal Cremant De Bourgogne Carte Tastevin Brut – library # 38614

  113. June 11, 2008

    Smahlatz

    QOTD : Cab Sav under 10 Bones? I live in the UK – that’s like 5 Pounds – good luck!

  114. June 11, 2008

    Fatboy

    Theme – Battle of Napa Mountain Cabs
    I love a lot of the mountain cabs out of Napa, especially places like Togni and Viader. Here are a few wines you carry that I think would be a good comparison in a similar price range.

    1. Von Strasser – Diamond Mtn
    http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=33965

    2. Juslyn – Spring Mtn
    http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=37413

    3. Ladera – Howell Mtn
    http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=32386

  115. June 11, 2008

    bendid

    QOTD: Thou shalt not dump on Australian wine!

    2006 Petaluma Hanlin Hill Riesling
    http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=33282

    2004 Cape Mentelle Shiraz
    http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=35684

    2005 Turkey Flat Shiraz
    http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=36107

    But really tho, continue to dump.. we can take it

    Ben

  116. June 11, 2008

    Jens

    QOTD: Gary we need more Rosé wine on the thunder show, special in this kind of weather….:

    1. 2006 E Guigal Tavel Rosé (France)
    2. 2007 Tegernseerhof Zweigelt (Austria)
    3. 2007 Slowine, Rosé (SA), from your book:-)
    4. Moët&Chandon, Rosé Imperial (France)

    Keep up the good spirit !
    Jens

  117. June 11, 2008

    M

    89 points doesn’t scare me. I’m a little hesitant under 87 but since I can afford under 87, I buy under 87. I usually don’t know scores of wines I’m buying. More word of mouth recommendations.

  118. June 11, 2008

    Snarf

    QOTD: South of France Tasting

    2006 Virgile Costieres du Nimes Blanc $8.98
    http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=39816

    2005 St. Jean du Barroux Le Blanc $23.98
    http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=37846

    2005 Chateau Pesquie Quintessence $18.98
    http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=39911

    2004 Fondreche Cuvee Nadal $22.98
    http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=39359

  119. June 11, 2008

    Smith MBA

    Whoa,

    I am out of the country for two weeks and looks like I have missed some massive controversy.

    I have no doubts about Gary’s authenticity (may e-mail a little later).

    QOTD:

    Since I just got back from France a Rhone show. The wines are really strong in the Cotes du Rhone Villages and provide great value. Also, the boundaries are so arbitrary for the A.O.C. you get great QPR on some of the lesser CRUs

    Montirius Gigondas 2004 Code # 33595

    Domaine De La Mordoree Lirac La Dame Rousse 2005 Code # 37542

    Domaine Le Couroulu Vacqueyras Vieille Vignes 2003 Code # # 9126

  120. June 11, 2008

    Keith

    Gary, thanks for posting the full 477 on Viddler.

    I’d like to see a Beaujolais episode

    Christophe Pacalet Chiroubles 2006
    Duboeuf Beaujolais Villages
    Cedric Vincent Beaujolais 2006
    Louis Jadot Beaujolais Villages

  121. June 11, 2008

    wannaBconnoisseur

    HOLY SHIT!!!!! To those of you still deeply troubled by the blind cab episode…I say to you, GET A F-ING LIFE!!! Come on people, GV does this great wine show for free and you beat him up over one little slip up. He gave us a perfectly good explanation for what happened….MOVE ON! Go pop a bottle and RELAX, give your keyboard a rest!!

    Great show as always GV!!!

    Q-Italian Reds.

  122. June 11, 2008

    Alfredhayes

    ~!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*~!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*~!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*~!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*~!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%

    QOTD: I watch the day after the night before so I am a little bit behind, but hopefully you don’t tape until noon! :)

    Title: 2005 Cabernet Sauvignon

    1. 33647 Concha y toro Marquis De Casa 2005
    2. 31102 Twenty Bench 2005
    3. 33922 Penley estates Phoniex 2005

    I was debating putting in the 2005 Groth, but the price may skew the show.
    4. 38218 Groth 2005

    ~!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*~!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*~!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*~!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*~!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%

  123. June 11, 2008

    italianwinelover

    QOTD: I’m with YoungDave “other French Sparklers”. ALSO – You talk about “growers champagne” too – how about diving into those. When it comes to popular champagnes every one has tasted it, knows it and doesn’t want to invest 30 or 40 bones into something they don’t like so ya get stuck in that rut (white zin box if you will) because you don’t drink these very often. I enjoy a bottle with friends every week…but I would love to bring to the table something different which I usually do cause of what I’ve learned from you GV!

    1722 – Varnier-fanniere Champagne Brut ‘grand Cru’ 34.99
    27896 Pierre Morlet Grand Reserve 29.98
    9709 – Pierre Peters Cuvee Speciale Blanc De Blancs 1999
    (I know you already did this but it would be nice to revisit)

    People get over the episode – life goes on in a much bigger place!!

  124. June 11, 2008

    Andrew D

    bendid and Dan Manu

    Good call on the Aussie wines lads. It’s about time that some real Australian Thunder was seen on the Thunder Show.

    Cheers
    Andrew

  125. June 11, 2008

    LennyR

    Great show as always, Gary!

    QOTD:
    Theme: Wine is our religion!

    1. Chateau D’oupia LES HERETIQUES L’herault 2007
    http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=40017

    2. Two Hands ANGEL’s Share Shiraz 2006
    http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=34313

    3.Three SAINTS Cabernet Sauvignon 2004
    http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=38363

    What do you think?

  126. June 11, 2008

    BB

    Hey wannaBconnoisseur, watch your language. If you must spew this tyoe of garbage go over to the Huffington Post or DailyKos, you’ll feel right at home.

  127. June 11, 2008

    CBone

    Can’t we all just get along?

  128. June 11, 2008

    Phil G

    QOTD – Summer is here, so I would say it is time for some pink wines. I don’t have any specific suggestions, sorry…

  129. June 11, 2008

    Mark

    Wine Wizard!!

    I was watching some of your older shows, and I saw you take the bottle cover off by just grabing it and pulling. I tried it myself last night, it worked, and to be honest, I felt like a wine badass. Thanks for the new trick!

    QOTD:

    Caves Des Papes Clos L’oratoire Chateauneuf Du Pape 2005

    Agustinos Pinot Noir Reserve 2007

    Smoking Loon Viognier

  130. June 11, 2008

    Wednesday

    Good show, Gary. Good area to explore.

    I figured that the blind tasting ending was some sort of trust your pal lesson. I appreciate your efforts to be impartial. I was impressed.

    And for those too invested in that particular show: one wine won out. It may not have won out for you, so why not go out and try some cabs?

  131. June 11, 2008

    Paulo P.

    QOTD:

    Breaking preconceptions; expanding wine horizons:
    Kourtakis Patras Kouros White 2006 – 33793

    Quaffable and refreshing:
    Pepiere Muscadet Sur Lie 2007 – 39465

    Breaking preconceptions; Oxidized monster is good:
    YOU MUST TRY TIS ONE
    Lopez De Heredia Tondonia Blanco Rioja Gran Reserva 1981 – 31093
    (THE 88 would be perfect, though)

  132. June 11, 2008

    The Aesthetic Elevator

    89 = psychological threshold ;-}

  133. June 11, 2008

    Phillip

    My show idea: Out of place wines…wines made from grapes not typical for their region. Just a way to think a little differently about some varietals.
    Possible Wines:
    Kanu Sauvignon Blanc (S. Africa)
    Shaw and Smith Sauvignon Blanc (Australia)
    Catena Chardonnay (Argentina)
    Couer D’alene Viognier (Washington)
    Takler Szekszard Rose (Hungary)
    La Linda Tempranillo (Argentina)
    Kendermanns Pinot Noir (Germany)

    Pick a few, looks like fun to me

  134. June 11, 2008

    EmZeeGee

    Theme: Does Emily Have Refined Taste or the Palate of a Seven-Year-Old Eating Pop Rocks and Dirt? You decide!

    * Wine One: Pine Ridge Chenin Blanc & Viongner 2007
    * Wine Two: Firelands Winery Gewurztraminer 2007
    * Wine Three: The Prisoner, Orin Swift Cellars 2003

  135. June 11, 2008

    LauraG

    QOTD: The “Other French Sparklers” idea is a great one!

    As to the blind Cab tasting – good for you! And sorry if we offended – you know we love you!!!!!!!!!

  136. June 11, 2008

    steve

    since every state produces wine, how about sharing something from Hawaii, Alaska, etc.?

  137. June 11, 2008

    Daniel Persson

    QOTD: The royals

    King Estate Pinot Noir 2006 – Library Code|36033
    Pax Castelli-knight Syrah 2005 – Library Code|28027
    Beringer Cabernet Sauvignon Knight’s Valley 2005 – Library Code|36273
    Pezzi King Pinot Noir 2005 – Library Code|38738
    Pezzi King Zinfandel 2005 – Library Code|38737

  138. June 11, 2008

    Tom T.

    OOTD – It may be too late for today but how about a Riesling ep? Call the show “Rising for a Riesling”?

  139. June 11, 2008

    Colin

    GV – 89s are all good! I’m out for a week to get married – but can’t wait to get back and catch up on all the shows (missing the Boston book signing!). Until then – keep it real man!

  140. June 11, 2008

    JeffC

    Will have to go back and check out last fiew episodes that I missed. Must have missed the “issue” you discussed. Thanks for all you have been doing Gary, keep it up.

  141. June 11, 2008

    Palmer

    probably sage, rosemary or thyme, or all 3, that go in mom’s turkey…

  142. June 11, 2008

    ZinRiki

    QOTD: I agree with Tom T. Rieslings!!

  143. June 11, 2008

    Joe McCarthy

    I was at a wine tasting of 4 Core wines (2004 vintage) last year. They did not have the Red blend, but did have several other blends. My favorite was “Hard Core” – Grenache, Syrah and Cabernet – and not just because of the name :-) .

    I posted a few notes: http://gumption.typepad.com/wine/2007/02/a_hard_core_win.html

  144. June 11, 2008

    M

    QOTD: You have featured plenty of Spanish wines on WLTV but no Bierzo.

    Descendientes De Jose Palacios Bierzo Petalos 2006, library code 37485

  145. June 11, 2008

    Goncasurus-Rex

    hey I think you should taste all wine no matter where it come from, people need to get a clue and realize you arnt doing this for capital gain.

  146. June 11, 2008

    James

    I was having myself a good ol’ throwback and watched your holiday season episodes and I remember bringing Cycles Gladiators wines. The fam was giving me high fives they liked them so much.

    I suggest you taste the Cab, Merlot and Pinot and maybe get a gladiator hat/bucket. Winelib says you got em. Doooooo it Gary!

  147. June 11, 2008

    AJ

    QOTD: Obviously you need to do a show on your favorite varietal: Petit Verdot

    “These Verdots aren’t so Petit!!!!”

    #1: 2004 Clendenen Petit Verdot
    http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=38971

    #2: 2005 Casale Del Giglio Petit Verdot
    http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=38042

    #3: Leave it up to you. I don’t if you have any other straight varietal Petite Verdot. Only could find these two.

    Peace!!!
    AJ

  148. June 11, 2008

    Raphael S

    QOTD: Pit 2 California Rhone Rangers against 1 real deal.

    1. Tablas Creek Cote de Tablas Rouge 2005

    http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=34207

    2. Bonny Doon Le Cigare Volant 2004

    http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=38922

    3. St. Cosme Lex Deux Albions Cotes Du Rhone Rouge 2006

    http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=38247

  149. June 11, 2008

    SpoiledinCalbyPinot

    Gary,

    I tried a cab you recommended that YOOOOOUUU were so accurate you scared
    me!!! I think you should travel to California. You mentioned Paso Robles,
    this was my first wine festival. There were 110 wineries with unlimited
    tastings. This was overwhelming…WOOOOOOOOOW!!! You were so accurate on
    the Casa cab I tasted I beginning to think the program is pre-scripted(NO
    WAY, JUST kIDDING> Love your show (no longer a lurker)

  150. June 11, 2008

    dz

    Show keeps getting better all the time. QOTD (Bourgogne from Burgundy or Cru Beaujolais, which wine is more interesting?) MICHEL CHIGNARD MORIERS FLEURIE 2006, THEVENET MORGON 2006, GERARD MUGNERET BOURGOGNE 2006.

  151. June 11, 2008

    Cabrilla

    Thanks very much for posting 477 in its entirety. No conspiracy fodder, lots of edutainment. AND ZOMG- my dog is named Roo! (Ironically she’s a gascon hound and not an aussie, but there you go.) So that really made me smile.

    QOTD: I like the previous suggestions for a Rhone Rangers vs. Real Rhone, but also for all petit verdot or non-Champagne French sparklers. (Je trouve le cremant de Limousin tres sympa.)

    BUT how about for the upcoming 4 July, a little all-American action with a show on Norton varietal wines? I’ve recently had a couple from Georgia and Virginia that were quite good (mirabile dictu) and not at all what I expected.

    Or, hey! How about a show about Irouleguy? Or a show about tannat-based wines from around the world (Uruguay, Argentina, California, Virginia, Georgia, ???). You’ve done similar shows for other varietals, and I think tannat would be an really interesting case study because its expression form country to country is so VERY different. Talk about terroir….

  152. June 11, 2008

    Oregon Jim

    I was going to recommend an Oregon Pinot taste off, then thought let’s get real, most of us really need recommendations on what to try in the bottom feeder market. We who have wine with meals every day can’t always roll with wines over $15 every day. Those on a beer budget need to know when they do buy wine what is good (QPR wise) in the 5 to 7 dollar range. Give it up for the CKC! Nothing over 9.99. Available everywhere.

    Bang For The Buck Cali Reds.

    Twin Fin
    Dog House
    Castle Rock
    Leaping Horse
    Crane Lake
    Forestville

  153. June 11, 2008

    Pete G

    Great concept show. Loved it.

    QOTD: Pete G is gonna back Phil G on this one. Since you talked about your love of pink (ok rose) wine in the book, let’s do an around-the-world rose show. Say a rose of malbec (Krios), a rose of sangiovese (Il Mimo) a Rhone rose (Paralell 45 maybe or something better). Really show the Vaniyacs how good rose can be.

  154. June 11, 2008

    AMM3RD

    “Value” Red Burgundy from the Great 2005

    Lebreuil Savigny Les Beaune Les Grand Liards 2005
    Maillard Pommard Chaniere 2005
    Marc Brocot Marsannay Les Echezots 2005

    and something special…Jean Chauvenet Rue De Chaux 1er Cru Nuits St Georges 2005

    **More White & Red Burg. on the show…AMM**

  155. June 11, 2008

    AMM3RD

    Links for my post…

    http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=39177
    http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=32056
    http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=39175
    http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=39176

  156. June 11, 2008

    Carey D

    Show title:
    Three German Rieslings under $10, vs. one at 3x the price

    Suggested food pairings (if you want to go there): Thai, Indian, Szechuan

    Twisted River Late-harvest Riesling Library Code|3650 $7.19
    http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=3650

    Dr. Loosen Riesling Library Code|14148 $7.99
    http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=14148

    Urbans Riesling 2006 Library Code: 34069 $9.98
    http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=34069

    Langwerth Von Simmern Erbacher Marcobrunn Riesling Spatlese 2005 $27.98
    http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=34611

  157. June 11, 2008

    espressokev

    gary should talk about the whole rev3 thing and make us feel better that we won’t HAVE to go there to watch the show. =)

  158. June 11, 2008

    Cath

    Call me clueless, and you wouldn’t be the first, but after viewing the “full” episode for the cab tasting, I still don’t understand why it had to be edited, cut and hidden under a link. I thought I heard Gary mention something about “private”, maybe private label in this episode? It still makes no sense to me.

  159. June 11, 2008

    Edwin Nunez

    Re: Episode 477

    You may be a little obnoxious sometimes ;-) BUT you have always called things as you saw them. In my book that is called honesty. I would not have thought you had something up your sleeve.

  160. June 11, 2008

    DennerRox

    Gary,

    So glad to see you reviewing a Denner wine! I happen to love them too – hence the reason for the screenname above. Sorry I missed the cutoff for the QOTD…selfishly I’d just be requesting reviews for MORE Denner wines…or Hansen wines from the Paso area.

    Cheers!

  161. June 11, 2008

    BobbyTiger

    #477. Nuff said. QOTD…………..”Bang For The Buck” show. Three of my “go to” wines: Cooks Brute Sparkling wine, Bears’ Lair California Merlot, and the Alta Vista Premium 2005 Malbec, Mendoza, Argentina.

  162. June 11, 2008

    Rani Haykal

    Great Show!!!

    QOTD: Catamayor Tannat 2005, Domaine Brana Irouleguy Ohitza 2005, Mas De Martin Roi Patriote 2006.

    I just wanna see more Tannat based wines on the show.

    Thanks,

    RH

  163. June 11, 2008

    Tom P

    Looking forward to seeing you tomorrow in Philly.

    Ummm i hope its a book signing, I couldnt stick around for the “throw down” or whatever it is afterwards.

    Nice show – good to see so different blends.

  164. June 11, 2008

    Wana

    I would love to see a “bubbly” show – it’s been a while. I love drinking sparklers for no special reason. Hey, how about a 4th of July theme with “sparklers”??

  165. June 11, 2008

    Derek F.

    Rockin it out bro…great show as always!!!!

  166. June 11, 2008

    Antony

    Who has been doubting you? Who? WHO..? Morons.

  167. June 11, 2008

    dAve

    Mott under the bus? oh, you mean Mott under the table? Mott under the Tuscan sun? Hey, there is an idea… haha. I love your video blog, Gary. Hang in! Mott will save your butt every time!
    Good show, nice energy!
    I have found more 86-89 rated wines I like, than 90 plus wines. So I shy away from those high up, must be me. My palate. It’s ok, i’m comfortable with it.

    The Travisity Chard, I agree. Not me.
    QOTD: HOgue Reisling, Kupelwieser Alto Adige Pinot Grigio

  168. June 12, 2008

    TimCub

    QOTD: I am rather disappointed that Wine Library doesn’t carry any Becker Vineyards stuff. I would have loved to see Gary’s reaction to Becker Vineyards Viogner out of Fredericksburg, TX. I’ve also heard good things lately about Becker Vineyards Cabernet Sauvignon. I realize that the Texas Hill Country isn’t Napa or the Rhone Valley, but isn’t WLTV about expanding ones palate?

  169. June 12, 2008

    wayno da wino

    Yo GeeVee, Eeeexcellent Episode!!!! Gooorgeous Vinos!!!! I know what Ya
    mean about “89 Point Phobia”. I had a girlfriend that would totally
    freak-out if the wine she was served was not a 90 Point Wine…………
    PLEEEEEEEZ, GIMME A BREAK……………….

    QOTD: Roses, da Pink Stuff………….

  170. June 12, 2008

    Harry

    Hey Gary,
    Happy to hear you’re making everyone happy and moving on. Good move.
    QOTD: I’d like to see a Burgundy intensive show – a few regions side by side. Maybe you can get Burghound to come on with you (I’d be happy to join as well!)
    So here’s my lineup, for red (a white Burgundy regional showdown would be equally fantastic)
    Michel Gros Nuits St-George 2005
    Chapuis Languettes Corton 2005
    Domaine Af Gros Vosne Romanne Aux Reas 2005
    Esmonin Estournelles St.jacques Gevrey Chambertin 2006

  171. June 12, 2008

    niklopez98

    Great Show!! I would love to see a Muga!

    Muga Rioja Especial 2003 – “Nik, link it up” ha ha…

    http://winelibrary.com/reviewwine.asp?item=32639

  172. June 12, 2008

    Eli2Tyree

    Hey how about a blind tasting of under ten dollar cabs…wait! maybe thats a bad idea

  173. June 12, 2008

    Jeremy Cronan

    I don’t know if y’all carry any, but what about deep south wines, maybe from Louisiana and call it a Cajun Blind Taste Test.

  174. June 12, 2008

    terroirist

    Good episode as usual. As for the Question of the DAY!

    I’d like to see you review 1/ Chateau La Baume Costieres De Nimes ‘05

    2/Arnoux Jean Marie Vacqueras ‘04
    and
    #3/Domaine De La Garrigue Cotes Du Rhone Cuvee Romaine 2006

    aka Mike in Nebraska

  175. June 13, 2008

    Smahlatz

    QOTD : I thought with Bordeaux prices going through the roof, it would be great to do a Bergerac show. But you don’t have any – Say What????

  176. June 13, 2008

    kaybee

    QoTd
    How about some 90+ point Viognier. There are several on the WL site. Talk about good value! And also perfect for summer!

  177. June 14, 2008

    pawncop

    Will just say that I am proud to be a part of the Vaynernation.
    QOTD – too late so will contribute the next time you ask.

  178. June 17, 2008

    JIKvig

    QOTD; This is the problem with having a WLTV maraton, you are too late for the latest stuff….

    This would be my pick;

    “Wines from other places”

    Short and sweet about wines from contries thats not in the spotlight;
    http://winelibrary.com/search_12-18-07.asp?Vint=&size=+all+&sDept=Greece+all&search=&x=28&y=6

    http://winelibrary.com/search_12-18-07.asp?Vint=&size=+all+&sDept=Misc+Country&search=&x=34&y=14

    http://winelibrary.com/search_12-18-07.asp?Vint=&size=+all+&sDept=Canadian&search=&x=42&y=5

  179. June 18, 2008

    JayZee

    Nice show, Gary. BTW, if scores aren’t important at all, why do you guys always include the scores in the sales mailings you send to me? ;-)

    QOTD: I’m way too late to answer that one.

    BTW, Denner is a nice winery in Paso Robles. My wife and I were in Paso Robles last June and we had a fantastic time. Gary is absolutely correct about the area. It is a great place to visit wineries because it is generally not crowded and definitely not as commercial and pretentious as Napa or Sonoma have generally become over the years. I recommend going to L’Aventure, Garretson, Peachy Canyon, Turley, Justin, Tablas Creek, and Four Vines, although there are many, many more. In fact, Ian from WineLib gave me great suggestions for Paso (thanks again, Ian).

  180. June 19, 2008

    Wanginator

    Gary,

    I am just catching up on the shows. I went to Alaska on a cruise. Let me just say that their “wine cellar master” really sucked at the wine tasting. He actually said, “Don’t buy cheap wine.” They didn’t even decant their wines! No thunder; just some farts. I protested by showing up at the wine tasting in my sweats and sniffy-sniffed proudly.

    I really think it was awesome that you didn’t show the private label because I know you have been accused for advertising your own wine or something like that. Even though some people reflect it negatively even after you explained the situation, like you said, just put it behind you. I personally thought it was a great story because errors happen, and you are still bringing the thunder!

    Screw thunder! The next time you taste a great greeny wine, try saying, “Hulk Smash!!!” It would be better with an action figure of the Hulk there, too. I’ll buy you one if you want one.

    Also, thanks for pronouncing “Oregon” correctly. Hope to see you at Wine Library one of these days.

  181. June 21, 2008

    yowens

    QOTD: Too late to contibute

  182. June 25, 2008

    Luis Felipe

    It’s never to late to leave a comment…

  183. June 28, 2008

    Dan-o

    GV – I don’t get caought up in all of the crap related to the politics of the blind cab tasting. Life is short, be happy. Those that complain a lot probably do not have a lot of other things going on in their lives.
    I would refer to see the entire episode!

  184. July 10, 2008

    kjdion

    i have had awesome 89 point wines.

  185. July 10, 2008

    ChiroGuyDC

    Gary Vee is the ultimate in Thunder-Bringing.
    Unfortunately – QOTD: Too late to contribute, but certainly will next time!

  186. July 21, 2008

    MattUD

    I wouldn’t say that I have any sure fire go to wines yet, but I havn’t really found a malbec I havn’t liked as of yet.

  187. January 14, 2009

    Dessert Wine Nerd

    You hit the nail right on the head. I see an 89 point wine and go meh.I look around to see 90 pluses and the price on them. This has to change. I KNOW there are deals out there and yet Im not seeking them out. What gives? QOTD: Too late….. maybe next time. :)

  188. May 8, 2009

    LEAH

    Just opened the 2006 Denner Theresa after sitting on it for about 2 years. You hit the mark with the papaya! The Theresa isn’t my favorite of Denner’s wines, but this vintage is fantastic. Cheers!

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