Grange And Sassicaia 24 Hours Of Decanting Later

Grange And Sassicaia 24 Hours Of Decanting Later – Episode #507

July 23, 2008

Gary explores whether the wines from yesterday’s episode have changed after 24 hours of decanting!

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Wines tasted in this episode:

2005 SassicaiaTOSCANA IGT
2003 Penfolds GrangeAustralian Shiraz/Syrah

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July 23, 2008

Eduardo (ED)
IÂ´m from Argentina, and IÂ´ve been follow your work for a few weeks just to assure myself that you are not just one more crazy men trying to make his move, and I got to tell you, you are just what the wine bussines needs. Here we take good wines as you know, but not only from Luigi Bosca, there are hundreds of better brands in the market, so the question is…when do you come to visit us here in Argentina? Come soon weÂ´re waiting for you, specially they in Mendoza State…men…youÂ´re great…carry on!
July 23, 2008

Jimmy T
No chance to win at this point.

QOTD: not sure that i remember.

Thanks for the show.
July 23, 2008

ChrisFS
Nooo!!
Don’t change the beginning!
Keep doing “Hello everybody”
It’s a trademark. It’s big and welcoming and makes it clearly that this is not a stuffy, snooty wine show.
Leave the beginning alone!
July 23, 2008

EricB
QOTD: This summer I had a 2001 Truchard Zin. On Day One it was fruity but in an aged, oxidized, “brown” frame. Day 2, the oxidized flavor was gone, it was thick, dense, raspberry syrupy without the sweetness. Amazing difference.
July 23, 2008

Stapy1
I like your thinking for today’s episode – the 24 hours later game is fun.
July 23, 2008

MattUD
Good show, a different view from the UStream, where you see how many people actually walk by. Excited to watch tomorrows show from the front view.
July 23, 2008

Tom Lloyd
99 Molettiere Taurasi
This is pretty amazing, and a learning experience, I guess. This was misbehaving last night–not performing at all well. I popped the cork for a friend who thinks that all southern Italian wines are “burnt.” And this one lived up to his negative expectations, believe me! Well, overnight has wrought marvelous changes in this wine. First pour, the “burnt” quality had already backed off to a graphite-prune quality reminding me a little of Amarone. As we nursed it over the next hour or so, the changes just kept coming, until the nose had a bevy of high florals, like violets and citrus zest, over a core of concentrated blackberry, and a haunting background earthiness. The mid palate became almost explosive of super-ripe dark fruit, with an autumn-leaf overlay, and, although the tannins are pretty much shutting down the finish now, I expect great things. The color, after all, is almost purple. This is a baby giant. By the second day, in other words, this became a wine deserving real contemplation. With more time, it may become truly great.
July 23, 2008

Bill
I’ve had a number of stinky cab francs from the Loire that benefited from a day of air. Too many to mention.
July 23, 2008

Phil G
The cherry juice is grenadine, I think. Please don’t change the into too much, I fell like it set’s the mood for the show.

QOTD – can’t think of any specific instances, but I feel like there are too many wines that fall apart a day or two after opening them…
July 23, 2008

Leif erik Sundstrom
QOTD::
A 1996 Clos la Coutale Cahors – first day uniteresting and flacid…decanted let sit a couple hours, showed some fruit — forgot about it went to work next day came back home (26hrs from first opening) found the decater uncovered on the counter, tried it and BAM! Awesome expression of roasted coffee, cocoa powder, lavendar, rosemary, thyme, black currant, dark blackberry, bright cherry, little wooden wagon with overused rubber tires… on and on and on….drank like cahors can and often does.

ALSO I believe it’s STINKOR not skunkor Gary! Looked it up and i’m bidding on an original in box now. you can get second series in box ‘buy it now’ for about $30 + shipping….but i’m going for the OG
July 23, 2008

Zinfreak
Gary, thanks for not looking to the side every 30 seconds. Much more enjoyable to watch!

Almost EVERY bottle of red wine in my opinion tastes better the next day. But you have to keep it in the fridge. Just pull it out an hour or two before drinking.

Quite often I plan ahead and open a bottle of what I want to drink the next day, drink a glass to allow some room for air in the bottle, then put it in the fridge for 24 hours to blossom into a much better wine. Its like decanting times 10.
July 23, 2008

Pete G
Still think that Pefolds is missing John Duvall. Wines aren’t the same.

QOTD: Biggest changers for me have been with ports – 10/20 year old tawnies even som LBVs. They open up so nicely after a couple days is the wine cooler afert being popped.
July 23, 2008

Ryan W
QOTD – My bottles never last more than 1 day…lol
July 23, 2008

Michael
qotd- had a donjon pape out for 2 days and still showed quite well I suppose the oxidized flavor had to compliment the overall structure.
A shout out to Justin at Alinea here in Chicago, where we had some great wines (detailed on the blog) – the Joly savionaire especially. A request for a future show on Biodynamic wines, the ones we had at dinner were great, and I recall a Gwerz that I loved that was BD – but what do I know, let’s hear from the V!
July 23, 2008

Withnail
Re the Grange: You were smelling New Jersey’s own superhero, The Toxic Avenger!

When did you start producing “FREE MOTT” t-shirts, as you mentioned off the top?
July 23, 2008

Dominus
Oh oh. Did “ev” find the big ass glass? I think he did!!!!!!
July 23, 2008

Dominus
Love it, love it! Great show. I’m ecstatic you still hated the Grange. No wine will change that much, well, maybe.

QOTD: On the plus side, let the ‘05 Haywood Zin Los Chamizal sit overnight and it becomes not just a good bottle of wine but an amazing one. Wow.

On the negative side, ANY Champagne, degrades abruptly no matter what system you use to try and preserve it for next day consumption. I drink the entire bottle that day else chuck it.

Cheers!

P.S. I have the #1 bid on “Stinkor” brand new in the package so I’ll ship it to you soon. Also, have you ever seen the Iron Sheik live back in the day? Just curious. I have. Front row at the Cap Centre.
July 23, 2008

Montana Sage
Biggest positive change in 24 hours:

Eberle, “CÃ´tes du Robles” 2006; Syrah, Mourverdre, Grenache, Voignier, $20

After about 30 minutes of breathing, this had a nose similar to a really nice New World Pinot Noir. I found the taste to be quite dry and elegant with good tannin structure, but I felt that it needed another year or two. Still, there was very nice fruit even though it was definitely tight.

The next day, this wine transformed into a deep, lush, smooth talking powerhouse, and among the dozen various bottles of good stuff on the table, this was everyone’s favorite.
July 23, 2008

Blake W
QOTD: The Coppola 2004 Pinot Noir Diamond changed quite a bit….for the better? Not really, seemed to change flavors but lose the pop it had after the initial few hours of decanting that it seemed to have.
July 23, 2008

ev
Is this your B.A. glass?: http://www.cheftools.com/prodinfo.asp?number=03-0096%20%20%2004

About your views on the Grange, I have 27 bottles from 1998-2002. I have only had the 2002 and must say, while I can’t stand overoaked wines relative to fruit, the 2002 did NOT seem out of balance with oak. You might want to mention that better vintages might hide the oak more, just my thoughts. Also, you should try these 2 wines again the next 2+ days or until they’re dead for informative fun.
July 23, 2008

Phil M.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Masters-of-the-Universe-Stinkor-Putois-Unopened-MOTU_W0QQitemZ270256503190QQihZ017QQcategoryZ18989QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Stinkor on ebay, boxed. Stink intact? $35.57 2:33hrs left.
July 23, 2008

Jay
I almost didn’t even watch this one because I thought it was the same episode as yesterday. Good thought on this one.

QOTD: The best turnaround a wine made was actually one made by a freind of mine at her house. When I popped it in front of her, it was awful. It was sitting on my counter. The next day, it was decent.
July 23, 2008

IA SHERMAN
Great show Gary but not sure why you want the Vayniacs to watch an episode (69) that was one minute long with no information. Did you ever complete that episode?
July 23, 2008

wine-ot
pound for pound GV today and yesterday were your best show in a long time…like old times. tihink you’rejust settling into your new famos life, i like it! had to comment before i heard the QOD…sorry no skunkor for me left it all behind years ago…ebrase your inner child
July 23, 2008

BrianKC
QOTD: Castello D’albola Chianti Classico

Tasted like straight weak ass after uncorking. Decanted, let it sit overnight, the next day was 100% better. Firmed up, mid-palette seemed to fill in, fruit became more pronounced and tannic bitterness was softened quite a bit.