Remirez De Ganuza Mini-Vertical

Remirez De Ganuza Mini-Vertical – Episode #525

August 22, 2008

Gary Vaynerchuk tastes two vintages of this high end Rioja and observes how big a difference a year can make!

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Wines tasted in this episode:

Remirez De Ganuza Rioja 2002
2003 Remirez De Ganuza RiojaRioja

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August 25, 2008

Jason S.
QOTD: I would have to say a few of the pinots from Papapietro.

GV – I must respectfully disagree with your assessment of Scotch and once you’ve tasted it, you’ve tasted it. Each barrel tastes completely different from the next, so to get a consistent flavor from year to year different barrels must be selected for blending to get the “same” flavor every year. That said, it’s becoming more and more common to find single barrel bottlings. Depending on the size of the barrel there may be 150-400 bottles that taste alike, but otherwise, there is no other scotch in the world that tastes exactly like that barrel, even if the scotch was aged the same amount of time in the same warehouse, etc. So, you can taste differnt Laphroaig 10 yr old. or different Macallan 18 yr old., etc. or even find bottlings of different ages, different finishes.
August 25, 2008

mark b
QOTD – Pesenti Vineyards Zin – I think it was in 2001 when Turley took over. Tasting the wine between 2000 and 2002 it was amazing to see what could be done with the exact same vines with Ehren Jordan’s viticulture practices implemented. Not that Pesenti’s 3 generations of winegrowing had been bad, but it was an amazing transformation – even in the first couple years after Turley took over.
August 25, 2008

Ken F
Compared the 2001 Don Melchor against the 2004 Don Melchor. The 2001 was bland, nothing to it. In fact, I believe it has had heat problems somewhere in it past. The 2004 was a very nice wine. I would recommend it to everyone.
August 25, 2008

Rick W
One of the best wines I ever had was the 97 BV Tapestry & one of the worst wines is the 98 BV Tapestry! What a difference a year makes, it just goes to show you that mother nature is the maker of all wines!!
August 25, 2008

Jayhitek
QOTD: Tried like 15 different years of the Foppiano Petit Syrah.. Some of them were terrible and tasted nothing like the year before or after.
August 25, 2008

Alfredhayes
Question OTD: Chilean Cabernet Sauvignon from Santa Carolina 2003 to 2004.
Quote OTD: “Giants are ahead of the Jets”
August 25, 2008

Smahlatz
QOTD : Had two vintage dark ales, one bottled 3 months after the other – the older one was so much better – rounder fuller darker, the younger one almost had pilsener type harsh edges to it.
August 25, 2008

Oscar Falcon Lara
A wine that I always buy and have seen tremendous differences throughout is “Marqués De Riscal”, 1995 being my absolute favorite followed by the 2001 vintage. There is a bit of a flaky shake on th flavors going from 1999 to the 2005, with the occasional OakMonster popping his head from time to time. Having said all that, I still buy any vintage of Riscal I can find, I like it.
Cuné is also another wine that has a very distinct body from year to year, maybe it’s a Spanish thing.

I have not seen the movie yet.
August 25, 2008

Paul V
QOTD: The biggest difference between different vintages for me is the 2004 RH Phillips EXP Syrah and it’s 2004 counterpart. The 2003 was incredible (for the price point) and really turned me on to drinking wine.

The 2004 on the other hand just wasn’t as good. My palate wasn’t like it is today (not saying it’s refined yet at all), I just didn’t like it as much and was really disappointed.

Great Show Gary.
August 24, 2008

Oklahoma Michael
QOTD= funny you would ask that question. I am drinking 2007 Casa Marin SB at this moment and am STUNNED by how much better the 2006 was that I had a few days ago. 2007 still good. 2006 massive thunder soooo much better
August 24, 2008

Bobo36
Have not seen Bottle Shock yet.

QOTD: Schlid Barossa Shiraz 2006 vs. 2005. 2005 better, 2006 is flat, harder tannins, a bit hot. Probably pass on the ‘06 ‘in toto’ this year. Drank a case of the ‘05.
August 24, 2008

espressokev
from personal experience, i’ve had super radool bottles of Jack Daniel’s, then had “meh” bottles the next time i’ve bought it.
August 24, 2008

Dannypo
Interesting show. I love doing vertical tastings. But if you think beer is the same from year to year either you haven’t done a side by side tasting or you seriously need to improve your palate. There are about a dozen beers that I buy 12 of every year to age and to verticals.

QOTD: Being pretty new to wine I haven’t done a side by side yet.
August 24, 2008

RickM
Only wine I have tasted from subsequent years were the 1976 and 1977 Riuniti Lambrusco, I was underaged and they both sucked equally.
August 24, 2008

Jimmy T
QOTD: ‘03 Peachy Canon Zin Incredible Red v. ‘05 was drastically different. However, I wonder if the ‘05 will change a lot in the next 2 yrs to be more represenative of the ‘03 which I thought was one of the best bottles I’ve ever had.
August 24, 2008

Kevin
QOTD: 2001 and 1995 Poggio Antico Brunellos. Different enough in age that it was more of an ‘aging’ comparison more than a vintage comparison, I’d say.

Another: Domain Nalys in CDP – did verticals of about 4 vintages of both their reds and their white. VERY interesting, and taught me that I like CDP MUCH more after it’s got a few years behind it.
August 24, 2008

dpe111
QOTD: Santa Julia Malbec 2006 and Santa Julia Malbec 2007 tasted both the same week and they were worlds apart. A perfect example to show the 2006 was much better than 2007 in mendoza argentina.
August 24, 2008

Jezebel
Loved Bottle Shock. It was nice, light, summery entertainment, a nice antidote after the blockbusters. Hey, how many true wine movies get made anyways?
August 24, 2008

sam
Good show. Good idea to compare different vintages. Fom my own experience, I used to enjoy the Finca Flinchman from Argentina 2006, a very well priced Malbec with good dark fruits and a medium body. I found that the 2007 was so much lighter…maybe because it was younger. Good stuff!
August 24, 2008

Louisiana George
Couple of years ago did a staggered vertical with 7 friends: 89 Mondavi Napa Cab, followed by 93 Mondavi Reserve Cab, followed by 86 Mondavi Reserve Cab. Fun showing how age and the soft 89 growing season effected the wines, particularly since most of my friends did not have much wine experience at the time.
August 24, 2008

ColoradoRick
RE: Bottle Shock

Fun flick. Good, not great. A good date night movie.

Regarding the history? D- at best. Yes, there was a tasting in Paris in 1976. Yes, the Americans won. Yes, the Chateau Montelena’s Chard won.

Other than that – the movie is complete fiction.
August 24, 2008

David M Roberts
Caught “Bottle Shock” this weekend at Milwaukee’s historic Oriental movie palace. Sure, it was a sugar coated affair with the underdog formula (the yin to “Sideways”‘ yang), but it was a very pleasant film regardless, with some good performances, and better, a good bit of history. Talk about changing the wine world, this film highlights that notion. It was nice to see a smaller budget film sans the special effects and cartoon characters. I give this new world fruit bomb 89 points.

On a related side note, while “Sideways” put a dent in merlot and championed pinot noir, I wonder if this film will impact the now much maligned chardonnay and bring it back in fashion?….
August 24, 2008

terroirist
The E. Guigal Chateauneauf-du Pape 2001 and 2003. I did not taste that at the same time, but looking at my notes I remember enjoying the 01′ a lot more than the 03′ in a big way.

aka Mike in nebraska

I am going to try and 05 and 06 Castano Monstrell this weekend though. uh monday tuesday are my “weekend.”
August 24, 2008

Tommy Vernieri
I’ll probably wait to rent Bottle Shock, haven’t heard great things about it.

QOTD: I only have done two vintages of a wine twice. Mondavi Private Selection Central Coast Pinot Noir ‘05 and ‘06 and the Glatzer GrÃ¼ner Veltliner ‘04 and ‘06. For both pairs my notes were pretty similar to the previous time I tasted them.
August 24, 2008

Bernie Bearnaise
I don’t have a temperature controlled cellar so I rarely collect wines but age them days or weeks at most. One of my goto wines last year was the 2006 Alamos Cabernet Sauvignon (RP 88) from Mendoza, Argentina. The 2007’s arrived and I perceived a surprising 4-5 point drop in quality. The Malbecs didn’t change as radically. Alamos Seleccion is a step up from the standard label. Also added to the vast Catena Zapata stable is the very quaffable Tilia line which comes in lower in price than the Alamos. The ‘07 Malbec/Syrah was an interesting change from Cab/Syrah. These are great QPR wines and reliable. Many times when selecting a new wine I will be swayed by the shelf talker that raves about the wine and a score it received from some obscure source. Many times the vintage is incorrect and the information out of date. As you said the only constant is change. There’s always next year….

Our Braves of Washington were mauled by the Carolina Panthers last night while I downed a whole bottle of ‘07 Calina Reserva Carmenere (BB 88) from Valle Del Maule, Chile. How ironic. I will be drinking to forget this week. 10 days from now and we visit the Meadowlands against the NY football Giants. I hope my liver will be able to withstand the onslaught.