A Master of Wine Visits WLTV

A Master of Wine Visits WLTV – Episode #558

October 15, 2008

Tim Hanni stops by and talks about spices, Master of Wine program, and rock bands.

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“This was a good episode. Liked the vignon bringing back the wine afte…” by looper
“Fun show. According to the budometer web site, I am a hyper-sensitive …” by A dumb Rhine king
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Wines tasted in this episode:

2005 Chateau Gazin RocquencourtGraves/Pessac-Leognan

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October 19, 2008

Tim Hanni
Yo Vinosseur – the Taste Budometer is for people looking for a rough guide to the primary taste attributes they will enjoy the most. It is also an amazing information gathering and research tool. The less involved you are in the wine community the greater the accuracy. As wine professionals we get very emotionally involved and the psychological factors of numverous tastings, travel, learning, exploring, etc. rewire us neurologically. This is how humans ‘acquire’ tastes over time. You know what wines you love, like and hate and thus really do not need the Taste Budometer. Also, your preferences for salt and the way you take your coffee could have changed over time and skewed your results. A huge number of people find that it is a great way to wade throught the immense number of wines and zero in the the main factors so that they can consistently find wines they will like. As we say on the home page the more ‘into’ wine you are the less you need the Taste Budometer – you already have your system to find wines you like. Thanks for being game and playing and if you are ever out in Napa look me up!
October 18, 2008

Grapedigger
Cool show! The science of the taste buds is fascinating!! By the way GV, is any of your parents is also a hypersensitive taster?! It’s genetics after all that makes us what we are.. Cheers
October 18, 2008

ChiroGuyDC
QOtD: watched this ep on ustream, a little boring, but quite interesting.
October 18, 2008

Vinacull
Excellent EP owed to a very interesting guest – thanks. QOTD: Judy. She very rarely drinks red wine.
October 18, 2008

vinosseur
I thought that this was a very interesting episode. I enjoyed it and learned a few things even!

After I watched the video, I went immediately to budometer.com and took the test. I answered the questions as honestly as I could. I also have to mention that I am a wine professional (work in the business).

My results were totally totally off! The type of wines they said that I preferred, were the exact opposite of what I drink, enjoy and prefer! “Big is better” – hell no!
“prefer plenty of oak and power” – not a fan of oak at all; I prefer “naked” wines.
“I’d just rather have red wine” – no way. I drink mostly white, in fact my cellar is 50% German Riesling!!

What gives?! Did anybody else out there take the test and come up with results that were untrue??

Hummm…..I would love an answer to this just to see if I did something wrong and to learn from these results

Thanks!
October 18, 2008

cheech
This man deserves respect.
October 17, 2008

Jayhitek
QOTD: Myrna (goes by Mikki though)
October 17, 2008

Wednesday
I loved the WSJ article on Tim printed some months ago. His personality is better suited for TV and the web. I see this as a classic palate show to be linked heavily in the future.
October 17, 2008

Stu Scrace
Wow, Tim was really inspiring, you are too Gary but Tim was awesome if being a bit of a salesman.
October 17, 2008

BW
Fascinating episode; Very educational; Love the budometer website
October 17, 2008

M
I’m going to lick salt and lemon, eat asparagus, and drink some wine this weekend. And I will watch Penn State vs Michigan.
October 17, 2008

Tim Hanni
Hi all and thanks for the comments. To answer some of the more prevalent questions and concerns: the reason I was not drinking is that I am a recovering alcoholic with 15 years sobriety. My contribution to the wine community is helping people understand why they like what they like, not trying to convince anyone you will or won’t like what I like. This being said I am on Council at the Institute of Masters of Wine (kinda like the board of directors) and formally mentor many people around the world trying to pass the exam. If you already have a way to go about ‘matching’ wine and food, you do not need Vignon – that being said it’s PRIMARY function is to make you food taste great. And it does. For the skeptics you should be but the science and more importantly the effectiveness is real. Gary did not flush anything out on the BS call – try a big red wine and then a little bit of salt and lemon or lime (like a tequila shot) and try your wine. Bitter suppression from the salt and sensory adaptation to the acidity in the lemon juice will render the wine smooth and delicious. The more bitter sensitive you are the more profound the effect. Easy to do. For more info on the sensory bit you can go to http://www.northbaybiz.com/General_Articles/General_Articles/If_the_Shoe_Fits.php Thanks all and thanks for the e-mails!
October 17, 2008

Susan
Gary & Chris & Tim – LOVE the budometer and the napa seasoning sites!!!
October 17, 2008

J Crazy
Maureen, I love you mom.

And I echo a previous post, why take the funky funk pairings outta your life? Me love artichoke and OZ shiraz. Although, I must say that using the salt must just add one more dimention. So, I flip flop and say this doubles your pairings. Eat the funky, taste the funk then eat and taste again with the Vignon. Awesomeness.
October 17, 2008

terroirist
OH NO – I forgot to mention my moms. I love her very much and she has developed a very serious pallet. I gave her a copy of your book and made her watch you show a few times. I gave her my sniffy sniff wrist band and busted out laughing the last time I had a few wines with her she busted it out and was wearing it and said ” lets have a sniffy sniff!..” She is a great woman. She used to old drink cabs. and now she is really in to Mourevedre. WOW! How cool is that.

anyway..
October 17, 2008

terroirist
I have not left a comment for a while. I have always in the back of my mind fantasized about being a Master of Wine. I was in the Wine business, and have always thought how great it would be to have such a credit. Not to be self-important, ( God forbid there are TOO many of those types out there.) but to just have that under your belt would be sweet. Not to mention I could probably land a sweet job. Anyway. For 6 or 7 bucks I would try this product, however I am a skeptic. It was just a bit much of a sales pitch. Hey – we all have one even if we don’t have a product.. hahaha.. Anyway good show. I need to back and watch some missed episodes. I am always keeping my eyes peeled for the free shipping wines..(I don’t have much dough.) and I did buy some of that 100% cab. Franc Italian wine and I wish I had nabbed a case. I was blown away. remarkable. I am too lazy to go the bottle. As always keep up the good work..

aka Mike in Nebraska.
October 17, 2008

T. Bone
Nancy. Love the guests, especially these outside-of-the-box types. Can you get Randall Grahm on?

Two comments on the product. First, where can I get it? Second, from a marketing standpoint, it’s a really boring design. Make it look high end and elegant but not stodgy and old school. If I saw that on a shelf, I wouldn’t even notice it. A good test – would you wear a hat if it had the logo on it?

Also (ok, a third comment), I’m sure they’ve done the market research, but it seems to me that at $5.99 you are competing with some low end garlic salt, Lawry’s sort of spices – not your market, obviously. You should be in the Williams & Sonoma crowd. Get that SRP up to $9.99 at least, maybe $12.99 and offer discounts. The people who will buy this thing are going to be willing to spend $10-15 as much as $6, especially if it is actually good.

Again, where can I get it?
October 17, 2008

Phil G
Hm… this is really interesting. Part of me doesn’t want to know that much about food and wine.

QOTD – Corina G
October 16, 2008

Fred
very educational about MW program as a professional “creidential” rather than just a fun test…

QOTD: Yingcui is my mom, and I love her.:)
October 16, 2008

coth
My momma is Vicotria. Brainy Librarian. Doesn’t drink.

Gary,
Love the transparency, love the full disclosure, Keep it real and I’ll keep watching. Good show.
-Coth
October 16, 2008

Todd
Gary,
I truly enjoyed #558 with Tim Hanni and would have liked to have heard more about him and what he does. As you know you can be a bid rude at times when it comes to interupting others, as you did with Tim, and it looked like you were doing all you could to refrain yourself at times when Tim was talking. I know it’s your show but you should try and humble yourself a little more when it comes to this. Regardless I still think you do a great job and have a very entertaining show!
October 16, 2008

TimInSpokane
Very cool show! I have found that certain foods just don’t go well with wine, and learning the science behind that is fascinating. And those “89 point” wines? I have had some killer ones! Especially when you get to know the reviewers palate. The thing that critic might knock a wine for may be something you love! Understand that will help you to figure out that what he rates as an 89 point wine, because he doesn’t like a particular component, might rate as a 93 point wine to you! I know Paul Gregutt (Wine Enthusiast), much like Gary Veeeeeee, isn’t an oak fan. I happen to like a bit of oak in certain wines. If Paul gives a wine an 89 with the reasoning that it is too oaky for him, that rating tells me that he thinks the wine is very well made and has lots of redeeming qualities. I then know, with remarkable success, that I will love that wine. So, bring on those “89’s”!!!

QOTD – Marilyn. And, she hates wine…. come to think of it, she doesn’t drink anything except for Diet Coke and the occasional ice water!
October 16, 2008

JeremyQ
Great show Gary … that was fascinating. Just went online and ordered a 4 pack of the ‘magic powder’. Eager to give it a try and let you know how it goes.

QOTD: Mum is Wynn, alas she cant take red wine. Half a glass is all it takes. Its in the genes (luckily it seem to have skipped me). Am back in London to see her since she just had a minor surgery and she is fine. Love you mum !
October 16, 2008

manonthemoon
Interesting show.

QOTD: Debbie
October 16, 2008

Rowland
kicks and giggles?

dude mulberries are like blackberries with no thunder.

qotd; i wish i knew