German Pinot Noirs – Episode #566

October 28, 2008

Who talks about Pinot Noir from Germany? Gary V does!

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“Gary – I have always found wines to change as they develop in the glas…” by Steve
“My mother is from the Baden region! Everything tastes good there….” by Tobias
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Wines tasted in this episode:

2005 Oberrotweil Pinot Noir Estate
2005 Oberbergen Pinot Noir Select
2005 Karl H. Johner Pinot Noir

Links mentioned in todays episode.

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October 28, 2008

Susan
Gary – Cool bag!!!!!!!!!!!! I want a WL bag!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 28, 2008

Palmer
QOTD: just got back from Central Otago New Zealand and had DOZENS of great pinot noirs! My favorite producers were Akarua and Felton Road.
October 28, 2008

John Farrin
Wow, what a coincidence. I had my first German Pinot Noir last weekend. It was a 2007 Undone Pinot Noir. Screwcap, unoaked and $10.99. Because of my continuing smell & taste difficulties I can’t give you any qualitative assessment but it was tasty to the point that I would buy more.

QOTD: The Undone and an Innocent Bystander from Australia are the only non-French/American pinots I’ve had. I definitely preferred the Undone.
October 28, 2008

cma82
Stop telling people about my secret value wine regions. Jeez..I love a lot of German PN’s, and they’re also better value than US/Burg.

QOTD: Easy. 2006 Pyramid Valley “Earth Smoke” Pinot Noir from Canterbury, New Zealand. Blew away a Clos Vougeot; and for only 65 bones.
October 28, 2008

jason
great show, i have been slacking on comments. sorry.
1st – your new server is SLOWWWWWW
2nd – i was in berlin a few months ago and ordered everything i have never heard of. i had lots of surprises … good ones in fact
QOTD. it would be from germany. i had some weird ass shit. i have never come across a nose like that. the palate too. you were right on the 1st wine – very german. i want more
October 28, 2008

MattUD
Thanks for the info on the servers, I was wondering what was going on. I think I have only had Pinots from the US at this point.
October 28, 2008

catherine
gary, i’m a first time commenter! i’ve been lurking for a couple weeks, i’ll admit it. i don’t really know anything about wine, and i just started watching your show, but you get me excited to learn about wine! i love your enthusiasm, keep up the good work.
October 28, 2008

Griz4life
QOTD: I don’t think I’ve had a Pinot Noir outside of the US or France…must change that…
October 28, 2008

Bill
Gesundheit

qotd: no favorite, bc they all have been pretty poor.
October 28, 2008

Daniel Kemp 4 Earth Emperor
Alyssa Milano is a very hot lady.
October 28, 2008

Phil G
Haven’t had a German Pinot… yet!
October 28, 2008

Rossodio
Outside of US/France? From Italy, in Alto Adige… I actually had this wine about a week or two after it came off the boat here to the US. 2006 Schreckbichl Colterenzio Pinot Nero (Nero = Noir in Italy, but of course you know that) was an interesting Pinot, though nothing to write home about. I wish I’d had more non US/France Pinots in the past, then I might have a more exciting one to talk about (I’ve only had 3 different ones…).
October 28, 2008

Tom Langan
Looks like I may be in the top ten tonight. So what.

Was anybody else a little pissed at the election night secret pack? For some reason, I paid more than WL retail for these three bottles of wine, only one of which had any real value or appeal. I’m not sure if it was a hidden shipping cost or an added charge for the worthless little trinket that was included with the secret pack, but it was definitely a surprise cost for the package received.

Need to reevaluate WLTV.
October 28, 2008

Withnail
QOTD: some British Columbia Pinot Noirs have been good last 1-2 vintages:
Church Mouse (last year was great), Golden Mile (now Road 13).
Definitely on the Central Otago, I was at a NZ tasting in the spring, had a bunch of them, very nice overall.
October 28, 2008

Hinrgman
Cool german Pinot Noir

How about some Italian Pinot Noir
October 28, 2008

Mark
My favourite non-US or French Pinot Noir is from New Zealand, but nor from Central Otago. It’s the 2002 Black Estate from Waipara.

I haven’t been able to find any more recent vintages in the USA…
October 28, 2008

Kevin K
“Let off some steam, Bennett!”
October 28, 2008

Dr T from N. Carolina
It’s been some 11 years since I’ve had a real German Pinot Noir (and it wasn’t that great) (well, there was the el cheapo non-vintage German Pinot in the decorator bottle we got for Christmas 3 years ago, but we won’t judge a region on that)

QOTD Have to say I haven’t had a really good non-US non-French PN
October 28, 2008

DaveyDonut
Cool episode… I’ll certainly check out a German Pinot Noir if I get the chance. Though… you said twice that this region is 5.8 hectares, which is nearly the same size as the Côte d’Or… 5.8 hectares is barely 14 acres! The Côte d’Or is nearly 10,000 hectares… Oh, maybe you were reading some german website, and they said “5.800 hectares”, but the silly Euros reverse commas and periods, and you truncated the insignificant zeros? Who knows.. but 5.8 hectares is pretty small. The average vineyard in the Côte d’Or is bigger than that, and they are always referred to as small!

QOTD: Hmmm… Can I give a trick answer? You didn’t say still wine, so the best Pinot Noir outside of Burgundy or Oregon I’ve had has been a Champagne! But if we’re talking still red, it’d probably be that 2005 Attilio Ghisolfi Langhe Pinay from Piedmont that you reviewed on wltv. It’s tasty stuff.

David
October 28, 2008

Paul Stonier
I’ve had about 5 or 6 pinot noirs, but I believe they’ve all been American…some New Yorks, a few California and a Washington state I think. More ones that I liked than didn’t.
October 28, 2008

AbsolutLahmi
Great, great episode Gary! I actually have been ‘eyeing’ a few German red bottles, but haven’t been sure what to grab. Oberrotweil is on my list.

No QOTD?
October 28, 2008

Palmer
I’m here Gary.
October 28, 2008

Michael West
Great show today! Stick with the opening, it makes me smile everyday. If people haven’t checked out the clips of Gary’s tv appearances you really should!