German Pinot Noirs – Episode #566

October 28, 2008

Who talks about Pinot Noir from Germany? Gary V does!

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“Gary – I have always found wines to change as they develop in the glas…” by Steve
“My mother is from the Baden region! Everything tastes good there….” by Tobias
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Wines tasted in this episode:

2005 Oberrotweil Pinot Noir Estate
2005 Oberbergen Pinot Noir Select
2005 Karl H. Johner Pinot Noir

Links mentioned in todays episode.

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October 29, 2008

Shaun
Gary ~ Indeed, I am a lurker – you caught me in the midst of a yoga workout(when I generally watch your latest episode – listening to you talk about is about as meditative a state I want to be in). My partner loves rieslings, and I’m partial to muller-thurgau; thank you for opening our eyes to today’s offerings, particularly the Oberottweil pinot noir. I try not to wave the national flag too often, but the best non-American and non-French pinot noir I’ve tasted is recently is the 2006 Carrick Pinot Noir from Central Otago (cherry and licorice presence with savoury notes).
October 29, 2008

T. Bone
Not sure I’ve ever had a Pinot from Baden. Had a few from the Nahe and was not impressed. Same experience with New Zealand and Tasmania pinots. Just too tart and unexpressive, or maybe just underripe? Looking forward to giving these guys a try, thanks for the tip.
October 29, 2008

ev
Sorry, so sick of the imbeciles’ “pinottrain”, I got off on the first stop.
October 29, 2008

RonC
Very good episode.

QOTD:
2005 Staete Landt Pinot Noir Marlborough
October 29, 2008

Brad G
Once again, another great show. WLTV always brightens up my day, and my night too, Gary you’re awesome. I ordered the secret pack when you first announced it. When are the new wristbands coming?
October 29, 2008

sam
As always Gary, you crack me up. I find myself laughing out loud almost every show. Keep smiling and bringing the thunder.

A quick Deutsch 101:
First, the “w” in German is called “vay” and is pronounced like a “v” in English.

ex: Oberrotweil=Oberrot-VEEL

Second, the “j” is called “yot” in German and it sounds like a “y”.

ex:Johner=Yoner.

Just trying to make you sound smart, or I should say, SMARTER.

Cheers! or prost! in Deutsch.

Tschüss!
October 29, 2008

ChrisV
QOTD: Paringa Estate Reserve Pinot Noir from Mornington Peninsula in Victoria, Australia. Not sure which vintage, maybe 2004. By coincidence, toured Mornington today, including Paringa (they don’t taste the Reserve though).
October 29, 2008

Nic
Bon, pour une fois, je laisse un petit commentaire (en français, sorry). Juste pour dire, depuis ma petite ville au nord du Québec, que le show (aujourd’hui et en général) est génial, qu’il a changé mon rapport au vin, qu’il me donne envie d’essayer plein de nouveaux vins (que je ne trouve pas ici, évidemment) – et que le meilleur Pinot noir hors US et Bourgogne que j’ai essayé doit être le Clos Jordanne Claystone Terrace Niagara 2005 ! Voilà.
October 29, 2008

bangkokchas
Treadmill lurker here:

I just noticed on my itunes that show #566 and show #565 (back-to-back) were exactly 16 minutes and 16 seconds long. In honor of that number (16:16) maybe there should be some fantastic $30 bottle of “whatever” offered for $16.16—oh ya—and free shipping too!! What do you think? Who cares if the same show was posted twice?
October 29, 2008

TenaciousE
The Hammond PN from New Zealand. Hard to find a good German pinot out here in the stix, and I gave away my Amisfield as a gift before I had a chance to crack it.
October 29, 2008

Courtney
qotd: you called it, central otago pinots. I was recently living in NZ and got into the habit of Rabbit Ranch pinot noir, which can’t be the best of the bunch, but good for the price. Also, well-priced and easy to get a hold of – Wild Rock pinot noir. The exchange rate in NZ just plummeted. If I was in the wine biz, I’d be buying it up right now…. wish I had a few on hand. another poster mentioned Amisfield; I haven’t tried it myself, but used to serve it at my nz workplace, heard good things.
October 29, 2008

Marc
Great show Gary….I will definatey have to look out for some German Pinot and compare it with some old favourites.
My favourite Pinot at the moment is Spy Vally 07 from Marlborough, NZ.
October 29, 2008

Ray-Ray
Qotd: Best non American/French Pinot = Tantalus Vineyards from the Okanagan Valley, BC Canada
October 29, 2008

HuskerJamie
GV, just got home from a Stone Temple Pilots concert in Lincoln and it was AWESOME. No wine before hand tonight, but I missed the election pack delivery today at home. HUGE Jets 56 pack tasting on Halloween night. It could get wild. Skol Vikings, what’s GV going to be for Halloween?
October 29, 2008

RED WINE GUY
Good show as always.Have had nothing from outside the states,but the Highliner Pinot Noir from the Hitching Post in California is awesome.
October 29, 2008

ecola
Too bad you lost out on the bidding for the best seats in the house. Maybe instead of saying “if you roll deep like P. Diddy” you can say “if you roll deep like GV”
October 29, 2008

Drew Hillard
QOTD: Now that I think of it I don’t think I’ve ever had a non-American or French Pinot Noir. Looks like I’ll have to seek one out.
October 29, 2008

Mighty Oregon
QOTD: Jermann “Red Angel on the Moonlight” from Italy. Not the greatest Pinot, but coming from Oregon I’ve been spoiled by our riches.
October 29, 2008

James H.
QOTD: I’ve never had one. I’m planing a trip to Germany this coming spring, so I’ll be giving some German Pinot Noir for sure.
October 29, 2008

Russell
Central Otago Pinot Noirs – from Valli, Mt Difficulty, Mt Edward, Felton Road, Rippon, Blackridge, Pisa Moorings, Gibbston Valley, Amisfield, Bald Hills, Carrick, Rockburn, Prophets Rock, Red Tractor, Brennan, Chard Farm to name a few!.
October 29, 2008

neutron212
QOTD: Cant say ive had any pino from out side of the US or France, but i will try to give them ago.
PS: Read the a story on NY Post on line how you you were out bid on 50yd line seats at the new Jets Stadium come on you could not beat 400K cheap-o
October 29, 2008

Laurie in VT
QOTD: Not that I can remember. Something to keep an eye out for.

The site has been slow recently. Not tonight, but I thought that was because I’m online fairly late- presuming the bulk of your viewers are North American, that is…
October 29, 2008

Dylan
Thanks for the episode on Baden Pinot Noir, much appreciated!
October 28, 2008

Zach
Weird mood today Gary. We enjoyed it.

QOTD: Went to 20+ wineries in New Zealand in March and enjoyed a bunch of fine Pinots. Top honors… Fromm (Marlborough), Bannock Brae (C. Otago), Mahi (Marlborough), Wooing Tree (C. Otago), Amisfield (C. Otago)… so good.
October 28, 2008

Ponuppy
qotd: JOHANNESHOF REINISCH ST LAURENT. Not quite Pinot… but it’s related. Also, stop hoarding all the new wristbands… share the wealth.