German Pinot Noirs – Episode #566

October 28, 2008

Who talks about Pinot Noir from Germany? Gary V does!

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“Gary – I have always found wines to change as they develop in the glas…” by Steve
“My mother is from the Baden region! Everything tastes good there….” by Tobias
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Wines tasted in this episode:

2005 Oberrotweil Pinot Noir Estate
2005 Oberbergen Pinot Noir Select
2005 Karl H. Johner Pinot Noir

Links mentioned in todays episode.

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October 29, 2008

Doug
Good show Gary…I’m pumped for Thursday! QOTD: None…
October 29, 2008

Eugene
Peter Brum Vino Noire. German. Excellent pinot noir. nice and light can even drink it chilled. Great conversion wine from white to red. Great beginners red.
October 29, 2008

JudeMurphy
Tarras Pinot Noir from New Zealand, it’s amazing! Seems a bit “fruit-bomby” to me but I just can’t help loving it! That’s the only pinot outside france I’ve had, apart from one pinot nero which I didn’t really like. I never like Italian wines though.
October 29, 2008

Murso
As noted by another, Italian Pinot Nero is difficult too, and best applied to methode champenoise in Franciacorta. The Tuscan Pomino had virtually no ageability and went to highly astringent sourness w/ no fruit in a couple of years.
New Zealand’s Seifert and Felton Road make some good stuff, worthy of their low/mid prices.
October 29, 2008

Murso
If any of you have the Parker Guide to Wine Buying, look up what he says about German Spatburgunder. I no longer have a copy, but I remember laughing my ass off. He slammed it HARD, calling it a wretched abomination, and on and on. Of course, I (nor should you) live by HIS word alone, my requirement was to produce some good German P.N. for a customer’s request (demand). I only came up with the Affenthaler monkey bottle, which was way light in color, and body, and too fruity for classic PN characteristics. I found it somewhat insipid, but the woman loved it. My girlfriend loves monkeys, so I got her a bottle for the hell of it- it was under $15. She’s no chief wino like me, and she loved it! I wrote it all off as ‘like really (over)jammy beaujolais’ and let it go at that.
October 29, 2008

Sarah
Great show. I may be repeating something you already said, but Germany produces 1/3rd of the worlds Pinot Noir.

QOTD: I’ve had several German spatburgunders. My favorite was probably from Weingut Huber. I can’t remember the vintage though.

Another great non-Cali or French Pinot producer is J. Hofstatter in the Alto Adige region of Italy.
October 29, 2008

KVolk
QOTD: None…..
October 29, 2008

wineknow
QOTD: Hamilton Russell.
October 29, 2008

cgatesman
QOTD: 2006 Peregrine Pinot Noir Wentworth Single Vineyard from Central Otago

Gary, get more Central Otagos at Wine Library!
October 29, 2008

Neil
QOTD: I haven’t tried pinot outside of USA and France. Quite frankly ever since Sideways came out I haven’t sought out pinot noir as much in general.
October 29, 2008

Rex
Tried Baden pinot noir for the first time two years ago at a Weingut Heitlinger tasting. I tought I was getting into a sugar incremental kabinett trocken to beerenauslese riesling comparative tasting…that turned out to be 5 reds and two whites. The reds where actually good, on the simple side but well made.

QOTD Best non french or USA pinot noir so far where two Niagara (Ontario, Canada) 2007 barrel samples from “Foreign Affair Winery” and “Organized Crime Winery”. Both are made by the same consulting winemaker and are just textbook pinots from a great vintage.

Olivier from Montreal
October 29, 2008

HuskerJamie
Great show Gary. Got the Election Pack today, us in Red State Nebraska are going to be celebrating an Obama victory with some good wine. Please more Arnold impressions.
October 29, 2008

OzJeff
I have to leave a comment today, coming to you from Baden, Germany

Just in the last few months I have cast off my prejudice and been trying a few Spätburgunder. One that was OK was a “2006 Philipp Kuhn • Tradition Spätburgunder”. I wouldn’t call it earth shattering though.

OzJeff
October 29, 2008

Jens
QOTD: Brigante in Fuga 1998, Pinot nero, Cascina Barrichi, Piemonte.

Jens from Copenhagen
October 29, 2008

irvus
GV:
Howya sposed to friend-up with you via Linked-In when we have no prior business dealings and it requires your email to Link In as a friend? Oh, and the show was, of course, gouda.
thanks,
irv
October 29, 2008

Franish
QOTD: Wines from Chile Cono Sur, Reserva, Pinot Noir 2005.
October 29, 2008

manonthemoon
Nice show.

QOTD: The best would be either the Sineann 2007 McGinlay’s Vineyard Marlborough, NZ Pinot Noir or the a Leo Hillenger Austrian Pinot Noir bottle at a tasting.

Must have green wristband…..
October 29, 2008

IPBrian
Leaving a comment, but I have nothing for the QOTD…I have started using Evernote for tasting notes so I should actually be able to answer some of Gary’s questions some day soon.
October 29, 2008

Derek F.
German Pinot…very interesting, not even sure I can find that stuff???

QOTD: not sure if I have had any??
October 29, 2008

Classico
Hi there.
Indeed a non familiar kind of Pinot.
Will try some soon since we’re neihgbours i feel obliged
Answer to the question:
A very interesting Pinot is coming from the Mooi Bly vineyards in South Africa.

Cheerio….

Classico
October 29, 2008

Brandon Snell
QOTD: Only ever had California Pinot Noir
October 29, 2008

Peter Schelde
I’ve had a lot of german red wines. Saturday I had a Temprenillo from Pfalz (german region)…

Top pinot producers i Germany are: Bernhard Huber, Ziereisen, Johner, Knipser, Salwey, Bercher, duijn and others.

My favorite is Huber – beat most burgundy, american and new zealand Pinot’s- try it.

Peter from Denmark
October 29, 2008

Pete
Really enjoy Italian Pinot Noirs. Can’t recall the vineyards off hand but have had a number that I really liked. Some of the NZ Pinots will rock it but so many just feel too fruity for my palette.
October 29, 2008

CBG
“Sully, remmember when I told you i’d kill you last…I lied”….man I loved that movie, but every time I watch it now it seems to get worse. Maybe its the cable that can be seen holding Sully upside down or Arnold taking cover being a rose bush and never getting hit, I don’t know but I find myself watching it any time its on.
October 29, 2008

CaseyLee
cant wait to see who the guest is