George Taber Talks Wine and Drinks Some Too! – Episode #591

December 5, 2008

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George Taber stops by the Thunder Show and talks wine and other things.

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Wines tasted in this episode:

2005 Chalone Chalone Vineyard ChardonnayOther California Chardonnay play review at cork'd
2004 Freemark Abbey Cabernet SauvignonNapa Cabernet play review at cork'd

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  1. December 5, 2008

    Smith MBA

    Good show man. Judgment of Paris is interesting for what a non-event it was that subsequently turned into a big deal.

  2. December 5, 2008

    ex-lurkdawg

    I can’t say I have a single favorite closure. I like the screwcap for its lack of TCA and related chemicals, but I do believe it encourages reductive problems. I like the cork for doing such a good job, but I don’t like its unreliability. I like the glass but it seems wasteful and I’m not sure how it holds up over time. I like the different boxes (with or without bag) for cheap stuff. I don’t like the synthetic corks because they are unreliable, they’re not good for ageing, and I believe they leech flavor components from the wine.
    Thanks for another great show.

  3. December 5, 2008

    Bruce B.

    Gary ruins every damn interview he does. He just can’t shut his goddamn mouth for more than 5 seconds. Wouldn’t it be nice to hear what George Taber and all the other guests have to say? The definition of an egomanic–Gary!

  4. December 5, 2008

    Sarah

    Great episode! Great guest…so fun to get Taber’s perspective.

    QOTD: Screw cap. Takes a little bit of fun out of the presentation, but you don’t have to worry about the cork. (Synthetic just too hard to get out of the bottle!)

  5. December 5, 2008

    KenP

    Strange ep. Left me thinking of all the good wineries left out of the Paris Tasting, both in France and California. Not sure France had the best representation. Dozens of quality producers in Cali were not present.

    Where was Martin Ray, for example?

    George Taber is not a historian, we’ll leave it at that.

    QOTD: cork.

  6. December 5, 2008

    hp

    I’m really enjoying the guest appearances!

    QOTD: I prefer corks or screw caps. Anything but synthetic cork! :( I don’t oppose synthetic corks in some mass-marketed wines from any technical or philosophical stand-point per se; they’re meant to be popped and poured anyway, so to speak, and I wouldn’t care what kind of closure they had. Even so, I still think even those producers should move towards screw tops. It just makes so much more sense. No one’s looking to cellar most of those wines (if some are concerned that screw caps may not keep well) and no one’s looking for the “romance” of corks, so why not just close the product with a sensible and durable screw-cap?

  7. December 5, 2008

    Mari

    Great show with Mr. Tabor. I have his book and found it very interesting.
    I finally finished my wine memoir, Mouthfeel: Confessions of a Wine Slut, and I invite you and the Vanyiacs to read the opening chapter at http://www.writingraw.com.
    Cheers!
    -Mari

  8. December 5, 2008

    Neil

    QOTD: I’m used to cork, however screw cap is probably the wave of the future.

    It’s too bad you are flying all the way across the US to see the Jets choke to perhaps one the worst teams in the NFL.

  9. December 5, 2008

    SargieAZ

    QOTD: Whichever one keeps my vino fresh. A good quality natural cork I think is ideal, but I also like the Stelvin closures (high quality screwcap). I have never tried the zork, afraid of the name. I guess I’d take a good screwcap over a bad cork…

    Hey vaniacs, there is so much back and forth about with is better for freshness and aging anyone have the “fresh” 411 on it?

  10. December 5, 2008

    Marc-China Wine Tours

    Another excellent guest GV!

    QOTD: I like the glass ones for the novelty of them, but frankly I don’t really care as long as I can get the bottle open!

  11. December 5, 2008

    John Farrin

    GOOD SHOW! I’m laughing because I have a vendeta with Freemark Abbey. While you were still in diapers they were the first Napa winery (to my knowledge) to start charging for tasting back in the 70’s. I’ve boycotted them ever since :)

    QOTD:I lean toward the screwcap. The idea that you could ruin a several hundred dollar bottle of wine with a defective cork just makes me shudder.

  12. December 5, 2008

    Steve

    Great guest, loved the show, even though I did yell at you a few times to shut up.

  13. December 5, 2008

    JonE

    The power guests keep coming. Wow, this show is putting fourth more for the wine geeks of the world than any other bar none. Congrats G-Man!

    QOTD: First I have absolutely no problem with Stelvin, I like him as a matter of fact. However I am nostalgic and will always love cork. However if one skimps on the cork all bets are off the table.

  14. December 5, 2008

    Kevin K

    QOTD: I like the zork.

  15. December 5, 2008

    BF

    QOTD: This cork stuff is overrated. I know it’s a big deal for producers and retailers, but people who drink wine (even lots of it) don’t sit around discussing closures.

    P.S. Great show. Nice to see a good guy who admits luck played a role in his success. It’s true for all of us!

  16. December 5, 2008

    late-start

    Good show.

    Prefer cork, b/c I feel “cool” opening it

  17. December 5, 2008

    Jay Campbell

    Good show. I can’t wait to read that book on closures. I love that kind of history.

    QOTD: Only because I like playing with it after it’s open, I have to say cork.

  18. December 5, 2008

    Withnail

    Great guest idea – saving this to watch LATE tonight.

  19. December 5, 2008

    purplejuicebruce

    QOTD I like corks but don’t mind the other. I don’t do much long term storage.

  20. December 5, 2008

    zac weiss

    SUCH a good episode! You two really clicked.

    QOTD: I’ve been sort of rooting for screwtops, but I’d never get caught buying one, being in France. And having a french mother. So I guess cork? Oh, and those plastic cork-things piss me off to no end, I don’t care if they work or not, they harsh my uncorking-zen.

  21. December 5, 2008

    Laurie in VT

    George is way cool. What fun!

    QOTD: a) screw top (I never thought I’d say that) and b) yes

  22. December 5, 2008

    Dr T in NC

    QOTD — still traditional corks, but Zorks are great for lower end wines!

  23. December 5, 2008

    elron

    Jets Stink! ;)

  24. December 5, 2008

    Kristen

    oh wow, this is like the autumn of wine VIPs!

  25. December 5, 2008

    John Farrin

    10

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