An Aussie wine tasting with a visiting Aussie Chef

An Aussie wine tasting with a visiting Aussie Chef – Episode #616

February 2, 2009

Chef Benjamin Christie and Gary Vaynerchuk taste 3 Australian wines that are widely available.

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Wines tasted in this episode:

2007 D’arenberg The Hermit CrabAustralian White Meritage
2006 Kooyong Massale Pinot NoirAustralian Pinot Noir
2005 Penfolds Cab/shiraz Bin 389Australian Red Meritage

Links mentioned in today’s episode.

Benjamin Christie . com

207 Responses

February 2, 2009

ozzybeef
love the aussie juice
February 2, 2009

Trevor G
top 5
February 2, 2009

Ozzy
Oh yeah! Love some Aussie wine. Good stuff, good price points!
February 2, 2009

ChrisR
Top 5. Wasn’t this supposed to be a viewer’s choice episode?
February 2, 2009

crank
I’m in.
February 2, 2009

Eli2Tyree
Cant get into to much aussie wine… to over the top, although I liked the last release of the darrys orginal alot as it seemed more “rhone like”.

Gary, tounge tied today? never heard you stumble like that in 600 episodes!
February 2, 2009

ozzybeef
QOTD: Kilikanoon Killermans Run Shiraz
February 2, 2009

MR. V
Top 5!!! Can’t wait tho get some Hermit Crab
February 2, 2009

David Dickinson
Love the Australian wines! Oh, and, Top 10!
February 2, 2009

Dr T in NC
Nice ‘classic’ episode. QOTD =Wandin
February 2, 2009

Tilley
QOTD: 2006 Hope Estate Verdelho, Hunter Valley
I’ve recently gone back to drinking Australian wines after a bit of a break following some big disappointments. Think this is a great wine, with some very interesting (tropical) flavors that I don’t find in other Verdelhos. A GREAT buy at about $12.
February 2, 2009

Micha
QOTD: As a big Fan of D’Arenberg the answer is DEAD ARM SHIRAZ. On the day-scale def. a Sunday-wine
February 2, 2009

Bobby Bo
Great episode. I like the day of the week rating system. Whats a Monday though, Whiskey?

QOTD: Ball Buster Shiraz. Big fruit and spice, with the kind of humor I like in Aussie wine. I am mostly an old world fan, so when I hit up the down under wine, I am looking for rip your face off, turn you teeth blue stuff.
February 2, 2009

Beverly Kimbrough
Hazyblur Shiraz…yum. Eucaliptis-y! Loved it! Great guest! Hugs and kisses from Kentucky
February 2, 2009

darren
love thw chefs
February 2, 2009

Smahlatz
QOTD : Not sure, I used to drink a lot of small hunter valley winery stuff which was great. Now I live inthe UK, so can’t get that smaller winery stuff anymore. Like D’Arenberg The Footbolt – great wine for the price, as is Killikanoon The Lackey.

Good to see an Aussie on the show, even if he is a cockroach He needs a maroon jumper
February 2, 2009

Johnnyutah
QOTD: Grenache! I had a Grenache from down under that ripped my tongue out although I cannot remember the producer or the viticultural area…it had the most mint I have ever smelled…exactly like mint chocolate chip.
February 2, 2009

Jay
Aussie wines seem to be hit or miss for me, but in terms of actual favorites, no names are coming to mind. Good show, though.
February 2, 2009

NC Carl
woodcutter’s shiraz
February 2, 2009

Lurker
Love love love Samuels Gorge Grenache and JP Belle Terroir Shiraz.
February 2, 2009

shawnandlu
QOTD: The Dead Arm. Great wine and with out a doubt, the coolest name in the wine biz.
February 2, 2009

tony v
QOTD: Lately the 2 Hands Bella’s Garden ‘06
February 2, 2009

Brian YYC
QOTD: Katnook Estate Coonawarra Cabernet or Merlot. Pick one… they are both awesome.
February 2, 2009

DrEdwardo
QOTD: Red: Henschke Mount Edelstone Shiraz; White: Tahbilk Marsanne
February 2, 2009

Glenn P
QOTD: Kaesler Old Bastard.
February 2, 2009

Brad
QOTD: Favorite Aussie white is the Hermit Crab, fave Aussie red is the Torbreck Woodcutter’s Shiraz. Great Episode!
February 2, 2009

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qotd: james creek shiraz, bc it was the first wine i ever bought and it helped turn me from a beer snob into a novice wine geek.
February 2, 2009

Flying Scot
QOTD: I hate to go with the big winerys but Rosemount Balmoral Syrah 2000 is the best Aussie wine I’ve had for a long time. On the white I’d go for Yalumba Eden Valley Viognier.
February 2, 2009

Dan Manu
HAHA Awesome episode Gary! Made my day! I’ve been trying to get you to taste the Bin389 for years… and who would have thought that Gary V would ever utter the words Cricket Bat on the Thunder Show?!!

QOTD: At the moment the white has to be a Hunter Semillon… let’s say the Hope Estate 2008 Semillon (Someone already mentioned their Verdelho but the Semillon is spectacular too). Fave red, probably have to go for a Coonawarra Cabernet from Wynns!

Keep up the good work Gary!
February 2, 2009

Vanguy
I’ll have to try The Hermit Crab.
Nice rose the guest had at the end!
February 2, 2009

Brent
QOTD: Flinders Run Shiraz 2005. Elderton Barossa Cabernet 2005 is a close second.
February 2, 2009

Brú
One of my favorites from Australia is a CHATTO CLOUD SWING CHARDONNAY.
Its a great Chardonnay at a good price goes fabulous with Garlic Pasta dishes.
Love it… a bit of a warning though… the Oak monster peaks his head around the corner… just a touch.
February 2, 2009

flynbrian
Have had the Hermit Crab and liked it, but for my favorite(at the moment)I’d have to say Molly Dooker Two Left Feet. I also like the Ball Buster that someone else mentioned.
February 2, 2009

CBone
Nice show, Gary. But, I thought today was going to be the show picked from Facebook suggestions? Maybe tomorrow. Either way, I’ll check out that white Meritage.

QOTD: I had some heavy duty Shiraz that had a bird on the label…maybe a grouse or something. It was good.
February 2, 2009

Greg Z
great show gary. fantastic host. you both held to your guns. fun,honest with no apologies.
February 2, 2009

purplejuicebruce
QOTD… so far Layer Cake Shiraz is my favorite.
February 2, 2009

Little Jonny H
Solid show, and a great guest. Enjoyed the knowledge he brought about buying trends from “Down Under”. As for the wines, what kind of plums do you eat, GV? Clearly the chef would have more experience with them than you

QOTD: Holly’s Garden Pinot Gris
February 2, 2009

Danny @wineweek
Hey Gary,

Shame to open the Kooyong now… it’s a wine that really won’t show it’s best for another 5-10 years. So many other great Aussie Pinots that Ben could have brought up that would have jumped; Savaterre, Epis, Main Ridge, by Farr, William Downie and heaps of others.

Also, the 389 might have too much oak for you right now, but you’d be a bit remiss to suggest it’s a brand issue as you do at 20:05. Have a look at the current St. Henri (which is a bit more expensive) to see that Penfolds is well and truly capable of letting the terrior and varietal speak through.

QTOD: so tough, so many brilliant wines. Perhaps Torbreck Run-Rig, Kalleske Greenock Shiraz or Morris Old Premium Liqueur Muscat… but so many other brilliant wines.
February 2, 2009

Gobi
QOTD: Mollydooker the Boxer
February 2, 2009

David
QOTD – Been a while since I was on line but glad I came back for this ep. Bin 389 and the reason is it was my first big purhcase too. In 1999 or 2000 I tried it and loved it. Ended up purchasing a few bottles and then a few more when those ran out, eventually buying about 2 cases before I could no longer find it around town. I have been attempting to get that same kick from it ever since, but most vintages have not had the same punch.
February 2, 2009

billyg
Massena Shiraz Eleventh Hour
February 2, 2009

jonomck
QOTD: Amon Ra!
February 2, 2009

Laurie in VT
We like Benjamin! Have him back again, maybe for a show on what Aussie wines go well with food on the grill (sorry, ‘barbie’)? Maybe from the parking lot at a Jets game? Just a thought…

QOTD: Sentimental favorite is McLaren Valley Wallace Shiraz, can’t think of the maker just now.
February 2, 2009

Edog
Hey Gary !

Your guest today seems like a really good guy. Looks like he was having fun !

QOTD: My fave Australian wine would be a Barossa Sauvignon Blanc.
February 2, 2009

Chris Hansen
Love the chef “play.” QOTD: This is probably rube central, but I like the Penfolds Coonawarra.

Good episode, but I wonder if blue sweater wasn’t there if the Oak Monster would have been on full display in all its glory?
February 2, 2009

Alan and Gayle
QOTD: Definitely Pensfold Bin 407 2004 Cab

Dam, it was great when he said “Barby”
through some thick dirty steaks on the barby
February 2, 2009

Andy
Great ep G ……. always forget about good Aussie wine.
Qotd…. Right now its the Innocent Bystander …. Shiraz-viognier
February 2, 2009

brorjace
Penfolds Thomas Hyland was one of my first “serious” wines, but I will pretty much drink any Aussie Shiraz, Cab, Riesling, etc.
February 2, 2009

Neener
Great show…can’t wait to try the Hermit Crab. Admission: I’ve been spending way too much time tasting the Kiwi concoctions and not enough back in Australia. That said, the Grange is probably my favorite (though rarely shell out for it). I’m also a fan of some of the more common Penfolds…usually staying in the $12-$17 range. I have not had the 389, but will try a bottle the next time I cook up some steaks. Some of the other wineries I’ll frequently taste: Chapel Hill, Barton Vale, Hare’s Chase, and Cullen.
February 2, 2009

Redbanker
QOTD: Kaesler Stonehorse Grenache/Shiraz/Mourvedre Barossa Valley.

Another great show. I love the shows where the guests are so accessible. A strong blow for the demystification of wine.
February 2, 2009

SpoiledinCalbyPinot
QOTD

Best Australian Wine is 2005 Cab by Bleasdale. Great mid palate with excellent nose. Love the show
February 2, 2009

Ray Barnes
Very good show – this guest was 10 times more engaging than both of the guests from the last show.

QOTD – I don’t have a favourite Aussie wine, yet.
February 2, 2009

RJurman
So far, the Mitolo GAM takes it for me.
February 2, 2009

Dominick Mack
Good episode!

Gary – I think you were actually somewhat reserved on your usual over-the-top, over oaked, fruit bomb, Aussie bashing!
February 2, 2009

cgatesman
2006 Two Hands Brave Faces
February 2, 2009

F Jackie Martling
Bravo Gary. When you show restraint and let your guest join in the show is great.
qotd: Two Hands Shiraz
February 2, 2009

Tenacious E
‘98 Elderton Command, although I still have an ‘01 Wynns Coonawarra cab left that I should have bought half a case of at a fraction of the price.

And for the sake of perspective, I think I paid $14-15 for the ‘01 Bin 389 I have sleeping in the other room.

Loved the Hermit Crab, though; the viognier and alcohol content worried me, but it was a really nice wine at an agreeable price.
February 2, 2009

Michael McGovern
Benjamin Christie was a terrific, informative,and charismatic guest! Have him back again sometime. To answer the question of the day; my favorite Austrailian wine would have to be Houghton blend: Cabernet Merlot Shiraz.
February 2, 2009

Robert Howells
Katnook Founders Block Cabernet Sauvignon.
February 2, 2009

Pete G
Kick ass guest. The chefs really bring it.

QOTD: Tapestry “The Vincent” Barossa shiraz
February 2, 2009

Blake
QOTD: Greenock Creek Cab Sav (I believe it was 2002)…really just blew my socks off. And sorry GV but I gotta say it. HERE WE GO STEELERS! HERE WE GO!!! SIX TIME SUPER BOWL CHAMPS!!!
February 2, 2009

Michael
I don’t like to call Muscat and Tawny… wines. But, Australia is home to Yalumba which hands down undeniably is amazing in this area. All I can ever say whenever I am soooo fortunate to have one is… OMG.

http://www.yalumba.com

Aside from that… I am way too much of an old world wine guy to have found anything from that part of the world that excites me.
February 2, 2009

Dennis Ray Nestor Jr.
Great Show. Ben seams like a good guy. Thanks for turning me on to The Hermit Crab!
February 2, 2009

M
fun show

QOTD: don’t have a fav….yet

I’d like to try the Hermit Crab.
February 2, 2009

Marc-China Wine Tours
I was introduced to Marsanne at a cooking class at the fish market in Sydney about 10 years ago. It was awesome!!! I highly recommend it.
February 2, 2009

guymandude
Colonial Estate Expatrie Semillon 05 from Barossa that Gary recommended it
was very good.
February 2, 2009

gotsha
QOTD….Thorn Clark – Shotfire Shiraz is my fav aussie
February 2, 2009

sam
Good show. Fun guest!

QOTD: In the past I have enjoyed Wyndham Estate wines from Australia, but I find my palate to have changed. A little too fruit-bomby for me. Same with the Penfolds. A little too two dimensional. Maybe I should seek other brands. I picked up a bottle of Windy Peaks Pinot that I am looking forward to trying. I haven’t had any Australian Pinot Noirs as of yet.

Keep bringin’ it Gary V. and the crew!
February 2, 2009

Jay
Great guest, great show!! Thanks!!
February 2, 2009

NC Bill
QOTD: 1998 Penfolds Grange!!!

Love your guest.
February 2, 2009

David Dadekian
QOTD: I don’t know that I can pick just one. Probably one of d’Arenbergs if I had to narrow a bit, don’t know that I can get much more narrow.
February 2, 2009

john m
Great episode!

QOTD – Even though I had an ‘86 Penfolds Grange Saturday, the ‘05 Mollydooker Carnival of Love is my favorite
February 2, 2009

stephen
I think a chard from devils lair in Western Australia, to be completely different.
Nice show, got to love the aussies
February 2, 2009

malliemcg
I find the 389’s need some time before even being looked at 5+ years – fairly consistent year to year. I’d love to see/hear your thoughts of the same 389 in a few years… I used to grab a few 389’s year on year, until they started coming out on release at 35AUD.

Favourite Aussie Wine:
This is so hard.
- D’Arenburg 2003 Galvo Garage would be up there, as would be the Richard – Hamilton Centurion Shiraz 2001 ($30AUD 3 years ago – much better than the $60 they’re asking on release).
- Wirra Wirra Sparrow’s Lodge Cab Sauvignon (any year over the last 5).
- Coriole Cabernet Barberra 2003
February 2, 2009

Andy Price
Benjamin port. It is good and cheap and shows the Portuguese there not the only ones who can make desert wine.
February 2, 2009

Scott EJ
QOTD: Amon-Ra, Branson Coach, D’Arenberg The Derelict, and bunches more.
February 2, 2009

Bill
Good guest. Best show in a while.

qotd: haven’t had an Aussie wine in years, but I used to enjoy Ponfolds Mourvèdre blends.
February 2, 2009

CindyW
QOTD: Glaetzer’s Amon Ra is probably my favorite Aussie wine. For more affordable shiraz, though, we often turn to Flinder’s Run and Glen Eldon Dry Bore.
February 2, 2009

Adam J
QOTD: I havent had too many Australian wines..last night I had the Lindemans Bin65 chard 2007, it had some nice fruit without too much butter and oak. Not bad at all for the price. Nice show, Thanks!!
February 2, 2009

BobbyTiger
We enjoy different Ausie wines.
No real favorite.
February 2, 2009

JonE
Your guest has some great episodes on hulu.com. He is highly recommended for the food and wine crowd in my opinion.

QOTD: Mitolo G.A.M. faboo dark brooding stuff
February 2, 2009

Chris
Clare Valley Rieslings. You gotta do a show on Australian Rieslings, they are bringing serious thunder. Great QPRs too.
February 2, 2009

Tom Mok
Yeah, it was the ‘92 Penfolds 389 that got me into Australian wines in the first place. So you were the guy that bought up all the stock. No wonder it was so hard to find. Sorry to hear about the 2005, although I am probably not as much bothered by the oak as you. I’ve had the 407 once. I still think the 389 is a better value play. I have never tried the 707 or the Grange, although I would love to some day.

QOTD: My all-time favorite Aussie wine is still the Coldstream Hills Reserve Chardonnay. I think it was 1994 or 1995 the last time I had it. It was by far the best Chardonnay that I have ever had (before and since), and believe me, I’ve had many. I haven’t been able to find this wine in New Jersey. What’s with that?

Thanks for doing the show. Because of you, I am more appreciative of different grape varietals and wine regions. I am learning a lot.
February 2, 2009

manonthemoon
Nice opening for the week.

QOTD: 2001 D’Arenberg Dead Arm, was my fav aussie so far and I think it offers something different from most of the others from the area
February 2, 2009

Dominus
Very nice show with a fine bloke!

QOTD: Devil’s Lair Chardonnay with the Cape Mentelle Chard/Semillon blend a close second and The Dead Arm Shiraz rounding out the trifecta.

Cheers!
February 2, 2009

John Farrin
QOTD: Probably the 2005 Hewitson’s Private Cellar Shiraz/Mouvedre for the red and the 2005 Nugan “Frasca’s Lane” Chardonnay for the white.
February 2, 2009

damon aka unknownwine
I think that was the first time a guest poured wine for you!

qotd
1999 Penfolds St. Henri Shiraz
February 2, 2009

Jade
Far too little experience with them to have a favorite at this point. Only tasted Yellow Tail and a few others. Gonna search out the Hermit Crab. Good show.
February 2, 2009

mrfroopy
I love Grosset Polish hill
and The Dead Arm
And 2003 Vasse Felix CAb
February 2, 2009

AaronB
QOTD: Yellow Tail! Sadly, that pretty much encompasses my experience with Aussie wines.
February 2, 2009

J Crazy
Awesome episode!!!
Great guest!

QOTD: Two Hands Angel’s Share or Bowen Estate Coonawara ‘05 Cab.
I had a ‘94 Bin 389 that was awesome! And I picked it up for about $17 bones at this littttle old liquor shop in the middle of BFN Ibaraki, Japan.
February 2, 2009

Dr. Mike
QOTD: Number 1) Henschke Hill of Grace. Close Behind with better QPR: Jasper Hill Georgia and Emily’s Paddock, Hanging Rock and Craig Lee
February 2, 2009

Justin L. Ove
2004 Killakanoon Kellermens Run Shiraz. 20 bones, to me a 92+ fruit bomb that is straight delicious.

Benjamin poured your wine for you. Was that the first time a guest has done that? What a nice guy.
February 2, 2009

Drew
Two Hands garden series.
I have been watching for a couple years now and for whatever reason Gary,It finally hit me about the OAK MONSTER and what you mean by the balance w/ fruit. Thank you so much for everything you do. ADHD is a big part, but thats what keeps the thoughts flowing and really imparted to me your passion and understanding of the complexities of wine.
February 2, 2009

Zigmy
I am very value driven….Banrock Station – most all are “Wednesday” wines, in my opinion, but good everyday for great prices! Penfolds do a great job and I go there for the “Saturdays”…Great episode!
February 2, 2009

Jim in Atlanta
QOTD – I like anything from D’arenberg. I met Chester about 12 years ago at a tasting in Illinois and was taken by his wines and him. They don’t make a bad wine. I am glad that you enjoyed his wine today.
February 2, 2009

urbwes
QOTD: I don’t roll deep, but my favorite thus far has been the Archetype Shiraz.

Gary, why no viewer’s choice episode? I loved this guest and subsequent episode, but we do need to see you idea happen.
February 2, 2009

SteveW
Great guest, much better than the 2 from College Humor who lacked both humor and any knowledge of wine, they also looked to old to be in college.
QOTD: Amon Ra
February 2, 2009

Mari
QOTD: Gary, you’ve knocked on Mollydooker in the past, but I don’t think you’ve ever reviewed The Boxer 2005 — one of the best value wines ever. Really phenomenal, at least in my opinion.

Also really love The Violinist (unique and charming Verdelho)
and Carnival of Love 2005.

Also have an 05 Velvet Glove put away!! Hopefully it doesn’t disappoint. What does everyone else think about these folks?
February 2, 2009

Mike in Wisconsin
Ball Buster Is WEAK! Go for the Two Hands “Gnarly Dudes” or “Angels Share”!
Kilakanoon Killerman’s Run great also!
February 2, 2009

laposte
QOTD:
Oh, I would have to say Leeuwin Estate Chardonnay Artist Series
February 2, 2009

SCOTTYL
QOTD:2003 Clarendon Hills Brookman Shiraz
February 2, 2009

Melissa
GREAT show! I don’t have a lot of experience with Australian wines yet, but am headed there next month and can’t wait! I do have a Mollydooker in my cellar. I may crack that open tomorrow night!
February 2, 2009

OSCAR FALCON LARA
I like Aussie Wines…

QOTD: Penfold’s Koonunga Hill is my favorite Australian wine.

Had a Greg Norman Once, didn’t think it was all that much but a good one nonetheless.

Good Show.
February 2, 2009

JS
Much better stuff, Gary…glad you bounced back from ep 615 (”the stoner episode” as it will be hereinafter referred to) with some good content. Solid guest, knowledgeable and enjoyable. Really like Australian reds too..
February 3, 2009

RonD
QOTD: Penfolds RWT
February 3, 2009

Andy
QOTD – 2005 Peter Lehmann Barossa Shiraz: 89 points: Aroma: cherry vanilla; Taste: some pepper & chocolate, full mouthfeel and pleasant silky finish; medium tannins; tastes not overly alcoholic; some complexity; highly agreeable by itself. Good value for money ($13.50 at Costco) and worth buying again.
February 3, 2009

PhilCT (marty6001)
QOTD: I love Rosemount Estate Shiraz.. I know its sort of the K-Mart blue light special of wines, but something about the taste really excites me. I could plow through a bottle of that right now if I didn’t have 12 patients to care for and was home!!

Gary: strong show. I really anjoyed this episode, but would have loved to hear of his pairing ideas with food… The more you can intertwine food and wine, the better off I for one would be as I would know what to cook for the misses!! Thanks!!
February 3, 2009

Phil G
qotd – don’t have a specific favorite, but i recently enjoyed a bottle of two hands angels share shiraz. i have also really liked some torbreck offerings
February 3, 2009

Robin C
Thanks Benjamin Christie.
I have that exact Penfolds Bin 389 but haven’t tried it yet.
QOTD: so far: Wolf Blass Black Label Cabernet Shiraz 2001.
February 3, 2009

David T
QOTD: Haven’t had enough wines from Down Under recently to pick a favorite, but the last pretty good one I had was the R.L. Buller & Son Victoria Tawny
February 3, 2009

Hugh McCabe
Mitolo Jester Shiraz is delish.

Re Bin 389-I think this wine was unfairly dissed. It is designed for the long haul and would be drinking very nicely at 10-15 years whilst the $15 wines will have long since given up the ghost.

just my 10c worth.
February 3, 2009

Nathan
2004 Obsidian Shiraz…one of my favorite wines from around the world not just aulstrailia
February 3, 2009

Richie Newell
Been watching for a while and finely decided it was time to make my first post. Good call on the penfolds I think all of there wines are getting over priced and over oaked. Current vintage of grange in our market is like $265 bones, CRAZY!!!

QQTD: Best wine I’ve had for the money is Elderton Command Shiraz.You can’t count out the Torbreck Runrig but who can afford it.
February 3, 2009

Shemp
QOTD : Back when I was a struggling line cook making peanuts/hr. (around nine to seven years or so ago,) I would find a lot of value plays in Oz. I used to love the Penfold’s Bin 2 Shiraz/Mourvedre as my $9 splurge/open the wallet wine.

I think my palate has changed a since those days, because I am now finding much of Australia’s wines to be too overloaded – or something I don’t really like anymore.

As far as “best” ones that I’ve had or “favorite” – I loved and was blown away by the Marquis Phillips S9 when I had it about 5 years ago – so it was probably an ‘99 – ‘02 vintage.

Oddly enough, that Marquis Phillips replaced the Penfold’s Bin 389 (which was a reward for winning a staff contest in the restaurant) which had before that been the best and priciest Australian wine I had ever had to that point.
February 3, 2009

Beardo
Great show.

QOTD: Right now I’d have to say either Torzi Matthews “Frost Dodger,” or the “Poor Thing” Grenache by R Wines (which you absolutely need to do a show on because it’s insane).
February 3, 2009

KenP
Not sure about this ep. Odd discordance between GV and his guest. Poor effort. Sorry, GV. You didn’t seem to be listening to the Aussie alc.
February 3, 2009

rimarfish
QOTD: No doubt…Mollydooker Carnival of Love 2006
February 3, 2009

Ditch
Totally disagree with Ken P. Thought the synergy between guest and Gary was great.

Strange coincidence as I had someone come into my wine shop today and ask for some D’Ar Hermit Crab…and I managed to hunt down some 06 from the cellar. I may have to hunt it down myself tomorrow as well as some ‘Money Spider’ and ‘The Last Ditch’ which are also Rhone Valley white varietals.

QOTD – recently….um….Pillar Box Red 05
February 3, 2009

dreamcellar
best Clare = 2004 Kilikanoon Covenant Shiraz
best Barossa = 2004 Rusden Boundaries Cab
best McLaren = 2005 Viottolo Nebbiolo
February 3, 2009

Brian Barrick
I recently tried the 2004 Clarendon Hills Hickinbotham Grenache, and it blew me away. Terrifically concentrated and focused fruit, with raspberries and strawberries for days. Perfectly balanced, with juicy acidity and a creamy texture, and enough tannin to give structure without a hint of dryness or bitterness. I also have some of the 2005 Two Hands Aerope Grenache in my cellar. Of course these wines are rather pricey, but they really show what Australian wines are capable of.

Not a fan of the Penfolds 389. Even for those who don’t mind all that oak, the fruit would be so much better served with a lighter touch. I’ve tried one of these after 10 years in the cellar, and was still unimpressed.

The Hermit Crab sounds like a real find. I’ll have to look for that one.
February 3, 2009

Speculator
QOTD = Morilla Estate ‘06 Pinot. It’s been a while though so I don’t remember it that clearly, but what I do remember was as a new wine drinker the bacon and leather on the nose just blew me away!

It’s a wine from Tasmania. I guess there’s not much from the island state in the U.S. eh?
February 3, 2009

Don Christie
The best wine I have had from Australia, would no doubt be the …

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February 3, 2009

wiljak
Was Benjamin talking Aussie dollars for the prices of the wines? I know the exchange rate was close to 1:1 for a while but I think we’re back up to one American bone being 1.5 Aussie bones or so. Just curious.

I started drinking Stump Jump some years ago basically because I’m into mountain biking and, well, it’s a mountain bike thing. I live in Spain and we don’t have a huge selection of Aussie wines but I’ve liked everything I’ve tried from D’arenberg so far.

The next time you have a snow virgin on the show you need to make them go outside and make a snow angel – some kind of initiation or something.
February 3, 2009

stephen campbell
QOTD: Heartland Dolcetto Lagrein.. for that matter most of Ben Glaetzer wines(except stickleback…not really into them) He maybe a parker darling but love his wines.
February 3, 2009

Tom G
2005 Grail of Lisa out of Marquis Philips totally ripped it. Holy hell. Easily the best Aussie “big” Shiraz I’ve had so far. Huge wine with loads of complexity and super ripe fruit. Not the typical fruit/alcohol bomb I’ve had even into the $40 price point. Awesome.

I’ve had the Hermit Crab a few times and it really never sits well with me. Way too bitter and too acidic. Complex flavors but I can’t get past that bitterness.
February 3, 2009

Louis Boutinot
Important episode guys and kudos to you Gary. I agree with you on the over-oaking that has become prevalent in too many wines. It is unfortunate that many journalists seem to judge many wines on the “make up” such as oak flavours and addition of yeasts rather than the intrinsic, terroir driven quality of the grapes. In our winery (www.huertadealbala.com) we reduced the use of new oak in our wines for the second vintage (2006) from 100% to 50%. Result- lower scores, lower U.S sales but ultimately finer wines with a stronger sense of place. This is the problem wineries have when faced with such large markets that are driven by so few people. I’m pleased to say however that sales in Europe went up and that we have continued with the same oaking policy. Trust your palate!!
QOTD- White- Leeuwin Estate Art Series Chardonnay, Polish Hill Riesling.
Red- Penfold’s Grange 1989- when it was powerful yet ELEGANT and not so grrr!
February 3, 2009

medo
@QOTD:

2005 Amon Ra by Ben Glaetzer & the 2006 Mollydooker CoL
February 3, 2009

Matthias
Thanks for again adressing the “oak monster”. That is why i like your show so much. I believe wines should be made in the vineyards, not in the the cellars. A little bit of oak is fine with me, but it should not cover the terroir. That is the reason, why i am so into german riesling. Not because it is the favourite grape of my homecountry, just because in my opinion there are not many grapes reflecting the soil they grow on, like riesling does.

Again great show and great guest from downunder.
February 3, 2009

Chris Lotz
anything from margaret river. maybe tomorrow will you do the viewer’s choice? Congac or absinthe would be awesome for topics, or i was thinkin gary could go into the city and raid a wine shop, or hunt down local vayniacs and do a show from their house. covert-ops
February 3, 2009

WineWoman
QOTD: Haven’t really been drinking many Aussie’s as of late. Too thick and syrupy. Some of the Pinots are good. The last wine I remember the name of and enjoyed was a Grenache. Tir Na Nog.
February 3, 2009

Kirk (aka: slave2thevine)
Good to see the show is getting plenty of guests.

QOTD: I’d have to say that I don’t tend to drink many Australian wines these days. While winter is here in Maine I have been staring at one bottle, but for the most part it’s just not something I drink much of on a regular basis. If I had to pick one for price/quality I’d say that Two Hands Shiraz Bella’s Garden is probably one that impressed me quite a bit. However, the ‘98 Grange was possibly the most impressive Australian wine I’ve ever had.
February 3, 2009

Chalz
Great guest, first time I’ve seen a guest pour your wine GV, liked it. You moved the bottles so far away he could not pour anymore.

QOTD Elderton “Command”
February 3, 2009

Eugene
QOTD: Cyril Henschke Cabernet Sauvignon 2005. Very much overoaked, but I didnt care. Hedonism in a bottle. I really do prefer old world wines but damn that is some tasty juice.
February 3, 2009

Harry
Great show. I’d have to go with Betts & Scholl O.G. Grenache, but I’m biased as Richard Betts rocked my wine world a few years back.
February 3, 2009

DF
QOTD: Have not had Australian for a long time.

Nice show. Educational and looked like you guys were having fun.
February 3, 2009

Brian Harris
Time to stop lurking and comment…Great guest, Gary! I’m in total agreement with the Bin 389…over the top, and wonderful with a big steak! Coats your mouth like a bite of milk choclate.

QOTD: Believe it or not, my current favorite Aussie wine is the $20 2005 Marquis Philips Sarah’s Blend. It’s one of the few wines that I specifically remember when and where I had it first.
February 3, 2009

Murso
QotD – Spinifex Esprit. Great, rich blend, moderate price.

Clarendon Hills Grenache – soft fruit, HUGE balls, as you might say.

Jim Barry Mcrae Wood. Dense shz fruit, AND earth elements.

In a world where I could afford them, Yalumba Octavius, and Jim Barry THE Armaugh.
February 3, 2009

Dan
1992 Henschke Mt. Edlestone is by far the very best Australian wine I have ever tasted.
February 3, 2009

SeattleGodot
QotD – I wish i remembered the name better, but I think it was called Haan, Barrossa (Bordeaux Blend, maybe ‘03)….. I’m a sommelier here in seattle and at a table of big show off wine snobs that brought in other wines like ‘01 Quilceda Creek and ‘97 Chateau Montelena this was really the star at the table, and I also thought maybe the guy who brought this in was feeling that his wine showed the least, but on a trip to the WC I let him know I thought his was the star over the others…..

Thanks Gary, great show…..
February 3, 2009

Cameron W
QOTD – Pirramimma Petit Verdot. Also really like the Penfolds 407 and 389.
February 3, 2009

BlueFrank
Really great Gary!! I’ve been watching for about a week, just discovered you on the web. – love your passion, love your energy, love your sense of discovery. I’m hooked.
My fiance fell while ice skating two years ago and lost her sense of smell/taste. I’ve been using wine to help her regain these senses (and for my enjoyment, too, of course!) She’s made great progress. She’s a huge distinguisher of flavor now. We have discovered that white wines as a group really have a greater range of flavors between the various varietals than the red.
I am looking for a dry, still wine made from or primarily with the Malvasia grape (not Madiera). Could you do a show on Italian or Spanish whites inclusive of this varietal? Your fan, the BlueFrank
February 3, 2009

Dayton
I’m addicted to the Amon Ra Shiraz. I could mainline that stuff and let it fuel my body. Yum.
February 3, 2009

ex-lurkdawg
qotd: probably John Duval’s Plexus. I’ve had two vintages now and they both have been outstanding. I also think Dead Arm is quite impressive, but I prefer Duval’s wines because I think they are priced more reasonably. I just read Harry’s comment and was reminded of that Betts and Scholl Grenache. I guess I can’t choose one favorite.

Thanks, guys, for the great show.
February 3, 2009

rowland
haha finally a guest who knows how to handle you gary! he talks over your interuptions, pours the wine, drinks when he wants lol.

yea just like grapes, their are blue plums, yellow plums, and red plums. Also there are both European and Asian varietals. Im getting ready to bottle two different varieties of plum wine, the yellow Shiro plum, and the red Elephant Heart, both Japanese varieties. Youll have to come to the Hudson Valley and eat some F*in plums bro! You need to back up all that smack talk on how important experiencing fruit and do a series of eppisodes where you go to a farm, pick some fruit, and eat it, maybe even pair it with wines where that smell is dominant so we can try it too. so you got strawberries, raspberries, blackberries, Black Raspberries (including the japanese wine berry), blueberries, black currants, red currants, gooseberries (you russian how can you not love them?), cherries, apricots, plums, nectarines, peaches, mellons, grapes (duh), pears and apples … and thats just the 10 miles around my house.
February 3, 2009

rowland
ah snap, I forgot Mullberry!
February 3, 2009

ev
Don’t like the Aussie oak? Go for St. Henri done in huge, very old oak.
February 3, 2009

Hondo
QOTD: The Dead Arm.
Others I really like include Tait’s Ball Buster, The Black Chook Shiraz/Viognier, Jip Jip Rocks Shiraz, and The Winner’s Tank Shiraz.

Liked this show and this guest a lot Gary.
February 3, 2009

Lawrence Leichtman
The Dead Arm is my all time favorite and one of my favorite wines period.
February 3, 2009

Weston
qotd: Dont have a favourite from Australian nothing has made me go wow but I guess I don’t drnik enough Aussie.
February 3, 2009

Mario
QOTD: For the price? Yellow Tail Chard. 6 bucks at the local grocer!

http://discoveryellowtail.com/#/wine/chardonnay/
February 3, 2009

Chris Braun
Not sure I have a single favorite, but lately I’ve really liked the Pillar Box Red. I also particularly like Grenaches from Australia.
February 3, 2009

Rick D
Hey Benjamin, thanks for droppin’ by the show, I enjoyed your input.

QOTD: Strong Arm Shiraz, love the different labels.
February 3, 2009

joe trdinich
Rosemount GSM
February 3, 2009

wayno da wino
Yo G & B, FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUN Episode !!!

qotd: Loooooovz Aussie Vino, One of me Favorite Shirazs was the
Kilikanoon Parable 2004….YUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUMMMMMM !!!!!
February 3, 2009

Chris M
Gary…been away for a while…way too busy for watching (shame on me!). Love the Aussie juice…..living in Singapore puts me on their doorstep, so get down there often to bring some home…lol. QOTD: Anything from Henschke rocks……my personal favourite being the Keyneton Estate Euphonium….awesome.
February 3, 2009

Dr. Dan
I like oak as an adjunct, or condiment, to the grapes, but not as a blanket that masks so much that the wine could say about its place and fruit. So, I’m with you, Gary.

QOTD: Anything by Leeuwin Estate in Margaret River.
February 3, 2009

Mike C
Can’t wait to try Hermit Crab.

I like Piedmont Shiraz.
February 3, 2009

Richard Ritter
That was a wicked googley!
February 3, 2009

JD in DC
Gary, couldn’t agree more with your points about the dangers of over-oaking. Let’s hope some winemakers were watching.
February 3, 2009

A dumb Rhine king
Awesome show Gary. Great job Benjamin

QOTD: Yellow Tail Shiraz will always hold a special place for me. When I was first starting out in the wine world, it was the first wine that I actually really liked and picked out on my own. Probably to this day, I have bought more bottles of that than anything else. Although I would have to supplement that statement by saying that I haven’t bought many of the same wines within the last year or so because I like trying different things.
February 4, 2009

apj_bobswineguy
20%-30% NEW oak (300L American oak hogshead). Not sure where you are getting the oak-monster from in the Bin 389????
That is a bigger barrel and they use 70%-80% 1-2 yr old hogshead.
I’m going to pull a btl tomorrow to see if I get what you are saying.
Loved the past couple Hermit Crab btls I’ve tasted. Another good reminder.
As for the Pinot, had to get out the World Atlas to find Mornington Peninsula.
Another educational show and good guest.
February 4, 2009

Ryan D
QotD: The best and most memorable Australian wine I’ve had was a 2004 Long Flat Cabernet-Merlot. It came from a tetra pack! But had fruit for days and was really one of the first wines that made me react and go “Whoa!”
February 4, 2009

canadapete
Great show. Awesome guest, my favorite in a long time!

QOTD – love Nugan’s Durif
February 4, 2009

Ryan Miller
Marquis Phillips 2006 Sarah’s Blend.
February 4, 2009

epistemiac
great episode. I’m a big fan of Chester Osborn’s wines!

QOTD: Red- Mitolo “G.A.M.” Shiraz 2006
White- Torbreck “Woodcutter’s” Semillon 2007
February 4, 2009

bbouche10
QOTD: 2005 Layer Cake Shiraz…would love to try 2005 Ancient Way Shiraz
February 4, 2009

Alisdair
QOTD: Tyrrells 4 Acres Shiraz – wine made from century old vines from original pre phyloxera cuttings in hermitage. It’s elegant and medium bodied Hunter Valley shiraz at its best.

Great episode! But it could be hard for a wine like 389 to show its “terroir:” (however you spell it) as it is most likely a multi regional blend – like grange. Penfolds make very few single vineyard wines.
February 4, 2009

pawncop
Good episode and great guest.

QOTD – I am a big fan of Kaesler “Stonehorse” shiraz.
February 4, 2009

DH
QOTD: I do enjoy Sauvignon Blanc from Australia/New Zealand. No favorite brand jumps to mind.

Recently I tried a JOHN DUVAL ENTITY Shiraz 2006 and didn’t like it. It was very dry and the fruit didn’t come forward at all. I wonder if anyone alse tried it and liked/disliked it. This wont keep me from trying Aussie wine again. Actually, I have a bottle of Yellowtail Shiraz 2007 in the bar and I’m curious to see how it performs.
February 4, 2009

Dessert Wine Nerd
Good episode. Fun chef and I love the Aussie lingo. QOTD: Yalumba Museum Reserve Muscat.
February 5, 2009

Alex M
Great show, good to see you back on form and to see your passion get you all tongue-tied.

Hate to pick you up on this one but it’s a cricket bat dude, not a paddle.

QOTD: So many faves, Charles Melton Nine Popes, Turkey Flat Shiraz and Penfolds St Henri to name but a few. Pretty much any Eden Valley riesling.
February 5, 2009

Adonis
A big fan of the Mollydooker wines
February 5, 2009

Mr.Ambassador
Another fun guest and a fine show.

I really enjoy sampling any new wine I can find from Australia with the goal of always expanding the pal. That being said we did go a bit crazy a few years ago and really enjoyed the Amon Ra (and Goldolphin too); I’ve enjoyed most of the Killikanoon wines I’ve tried as well.
February 5, 2009

Brian
QOTD: Betts & Scholl “Black Betty” Shiraz
February 6, 2009

Keith Brown
Good Show! QOTD: Ironically, D’arenberg Darry’s Original, fantastic wine for the price. Wish I’d bought more when I had the chance. Waiting for the next vintage. Second runner up is Mak Coonwarra Cab/Shiraz.
February 6, 2009

thecobalt9
great episode – love the aussie whites – that hermit crab is a great weeknight QPR stunner – good call – keep on rocking!
February 6, 2009

Sonia
Great guest! I used to be a Yellow tail drinker… it was the first red I ever could handle, it made me brave enough to try others, but sadly I lack experience with the Aussie wines, only had a one other Shiraz and some Sauvignon Blacs that I don’t remember…
February 6, 2009

innA
Very good show – I have had the Hermit Crab and really loved it, but I’m still yet to try an Australian pinot noir that really impressed me.. I feel they are highly overrated and way behind NZ in terms of the new world.

QOTD – heaps to chose from, but possibly the Pewsey Vale riesling.. especially in terms of value. There are so many fantastic rieslings from Eden and Clare Valley.
February 6, 2009

Jayhitek
QOTD: Dammnit! So many to choose from. I love Aussie wines.
I do like the Yalumba and Penfolds vineyards.
February 6, 2009

C-Lo
QOTD: I don’t really drink enough aussie wines to have a favorite. Just the other night i cracked open a 2004 Green Point Shiraz which was pretty complex and tasty.

I really want to get some of that Hermit Crab….
February 7, 2009

Phildo Massey
Solid episode, am off to Binny’s tomorrow to pick up the Hermit Crab.

QOTD: Definitely Glatzier’s GoDolphin, what a marvelous wine!
February 7, 2009

Andrew D
Go Australia

QOTD – can I do a few
1. Clover Hill Vintage Brut
2. Tim Adams Reserve Riesling
3. Grosset Polish Hill Riesling
4. Hoddles Creek Chardonnay
5. Domaine A Pinot (in a good year)
6. Samuals’ Gorge Tempranillo
7. Balgownie Estate Bendigo Shiraz
8. Dalwhinnie Cabernet
9. De Bortoli Noble One
10. Chambers fortifieds

Cheers
Andrew
February 7, 2009

Matthew Bellamy
QOTD:

My favourite Australian wines would have to be:

1) Yarra Yerring No.2
2) Giaconda Pinot Noir
3) D’Arenberg Dead Arm
February 7, 2009

Dan-o
GV – good show – enjoyed the guest. I think that he could take you though.

QOTD – White – Leeuwin Estate Artist Series Chardonnay Margaret River
- Red – a tie – BVE E&E Black Pepper Shiraz, Elderton Command Shiraz
February 7, 2009

Gumfrat
QOTD: Torbreck’s The Struie was great, tried at a wine tasting. Also tried their Juveniles and would rather have 2 bottles of that. Gave the Ball Buster to my son as a gift.
February 7, 2009

Lord Nouda
Good show. I wish I had the money and time to taste more wines… the time will come, though.

qotd: cannot recall any specific wine… they were all acceptable quaffing wines, though.
February 7, 2009

Fresno State Viticulture
Great episode, I’ve been watching for a while and this is my first comment.

QOTD: Had a few real good ones, but I’m gonna say to anybody reading this, you need to try Yellow Tail’s sparkling wine. Surprising good. Hate Yellow Tail, very impressed with their sparkling. Don’t know how widely available it is yet, but they have it here some local grocery stores on the west coast.
February 8, 2009

YoungDave
QOTD: For QPR maybe the Two Hands 2006 “The Angel’s Share” Shiraz. Not mind-blowing, but for the reputation of this producer, and the lack of new wood flavors, extraction of fruit balanced with good acidity and complex mineral notes, the price of this wine is right for what it delivers.
February 8, 2009

Jimmy T
Very good show!
February 8, 2009

Bill
Gary – WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO LEARN!!
Penfolds is one of the last makers, probably in the WORLD, who consistently make wine that is NOT designed for early consumption (within 8-10 years). That 389 should not even be thought about untill 2015 at the EARLIEST!! Even the cheapo Penfolds like Koonunga Hill needs at least 5 years (forget Rawson’s – that is not worthy of anything much). Its so unfair to rail against the oak – SO BOREINGLY – every time when you NEVER taste one of these wines that has the age the maker WANTS it to have on it. I have been asking you to tast some of these with 10 – 15 years on them consistently ever since WLTV started and you NEVER HAVE! I have even given you specific suggestions. Never, and yet EVERY time, the same old tired “oak monster”! Jesus, people have been making wines utilising oak for thousands of years now, is everyone else other than you just wrong?
PLEASE, for God’s sake, put it in perspective!! Taste some OLDER Aussie fruit/oak-bombs!! Only then will you get it! Until then all you are doing is helping eradicate these last bastions of how wine USED to be made in Oz. Don’t be partially responsible for that demise!
February 8, 2009

yowens
Great guest, really nice guy to put up with you GV! QOTD: I have always dreamed it would be Grange.
February 8, 2009

KMurph
Great guest GV! And I really appreciated your passion about not over-oaking wines: I hope people were listening. Let the fruit speak for itself!

QOTD: Alas, I have had some Australian wines, but I haven’t had many that stand out to me. I’ve had some good Rieslings and a few Chards though, just can’t remember the names.
February 9, 2009

Keith
I like the value wines from Oz, they tend to have less oak. Terra Barossa Shiraz, even Yellowtail Reserve is good.
February 15, 2009

Brian
QOTD Pewsey vale riesling rox my sox
February 15, 2009

JayZee
Great show – nice job, Benjamin! I love Australia and a lot of their wines, although I tend to side with Gary that there is an awful lot of over-the-top Aussie wines on the market. But, to be fair, they are darn delicious for the most part.

QOTD: My favorite Australian wine is Aman-Ra Godolphin Shiraz-Cab blend.
March 4, 2009

JudeMurphy
I can’t have favorites because I never drink the same wine more than once- how could I possibly when there’s so much out there to try?! ; )
March 4, 2009

Yopee
Great Show!
I Wish I’d bought more when I had the chance.
Thanks anyway
April 16, 2009

Heather
QOTD: Langmeil 5th Wave, Charles Melton Nine Popes
April 23, 2009

Miles
G’day Gary-

As an aussie i feel our wines have been typecast as over-oaked fruit bombs!
Of the wines you’ve tasted I most certainly agree, but you mainly focus on the hudge brands that make wine in this style for the U.S. export market, usually from Barossa/Mclaren Vale etc, some of which we never see here (thankfully)!

See if you can get your hands on good vintages of the following (although they are usually quite consistent)

Bass Phillip, pinot noir (Reserve or premium),(Gippsland, Vic)
Savaterre, Chardonnay (Beechworth,Vic)
Wendouree, Shiraz (Clare Valley, S.A.)
Mount Mary, Quintet Cabernets (Yarra Valley,Vic)
Bindi, Quartz Chardonnay (Macedon Ranges,Vic)
Yeringberg, Cabernets
Craiglee, Shiraz (Sunbury,Vic)
Moss Wood, Cabernet (margaret River,W.A)

Thanks for WLTV, very entertaining

Cheers,
Miles Fraser
April 25, 2009

ian
Bream Creak Pinot 2007 (Tasmanian winery, hard to find outside Tasmania)
May 1, 2009

Jon
Favorite Australian wine would have to be the Petaluma Coonawarra Cabernet Merlot.

I have to say I agree with you on the Kooyong Massale Pinot Noir, there really is not anything compelling on the pallet of this wine. It’s inoffensive at best.

In regards to the Penfolds Cab/shiraz Bin 389 I think you have to realize it’s not really a wine made to be drunk so young. I personally don’t enjoy drinking these wines when they are young, as you say the oak is overpowering. After they have aged a few years it is a very different matter. The oak that was overpowering as a young wine will mellow to create a beautifully balanced older wine with everything in harmony.
June 8, 2009

nnothing
qotd: jim barry lodge hill shiraz
July 30, 2009

Monica
QOTD:

A Wednesday – Hope Estate 2007 Hunter Valley Shiraz

A birthday dinner – McGuigans 2005 Personal Reserve Shiraz
August 31, 2009

DRJ
I enjoy WLTV but would love to see Garry try some of the wines listed by Miles to dispel any generic myths he may have about Australian wines. As with all wines around the world try and source out good vintages. But as with most great Aussie wines they will need time in a dark cool place. Garry might want to follow this link http://www.langtons.com.au/Wine/ClassificationView.aspx for some ideas on Australian wines and vintages to try. However this is just the tip of the iceberg for great Australian wines.

I can fully understand Bill’s frustration when Garry drinks a very young wine especially a Bin 389. Never drink these wines young! I personally do not like them at all when they are young. Wines in this style are made for the long haul. I drank a 96 & 98 Bin 389 in the past month and both these wines are still another 10-20+ years from their peak. I have also seen Garry drinking young Grange from a poor vintage. Why bother? A. Go for a top Vintage and B. Drink it in 30-50 years time when it is designed to peak. I recently drank a 71 & 76 Grange (both awesome wines!) and both still have a few years left in them yet. Even at 38 & 33 years old I don’t doubt these wines will still be drinking well at their 50th birthdays.

QOTD:
WHITE
2008 macforbes RS37 Riesling (Strathbogie Ranges) – (Cellar Door in Yarra Valley)
2008 Galli Estate Artigiano Chardonnay (Sunbury)

RED
2005 Curley Flat Pinot Noir (Macedon Ranges)
2003 Domaine A Cabernet Sauvignon (Coal River Valley in Southern Tasmania)
September 13, 2009

ulu ulu ulu ulu
I think you’re right on point, Gary. The bin 407 is also ridiculously oaked. It smells like my face is coated in butter. That being said, my favorite Australian wine could be Penfolds’ Grange
October 12, 2009

Gavin
If you like the D’arenberg Hermit Crab, you should try their “Dry Dam Riesling”. I loved it when I had it earlier this year. Also, if you get a chance, having a meal at their Cellar Door restaurant is amazing.

My favourite Australian wines seem to change quite a lot, but at the moment:
WHITE
Pewsey Vale – Riesling (Eden Valley)
RED
Kay Brothers Amery – Block 6 Shiraz (Mcarenvale)
Penley Estate- Reserve Cabernet Sauvignon (Coonawarra)