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	<title>Comments on: Discussing Cork vs. Screwcaps during a Grab Bag Wine Tasting &#8211; Episode #654</title>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Feb 2011 19:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not tried these, Greek wines hit or miss,mostly miss. She looks like Bette Midler..  QOTD-who gives a sh*t      www.winelx.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not tried these, Greek wines hit or miss,mostly miss. She looks like Bette Midler..  QOTD-who gives a sh*t      <a href="http://www.winelx.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.winelx.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: John__J</title>
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		<dc:creator>John__J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jan 2011 02:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>qotd: I&#039;m not googling that. I&#039;m sure someone already posted the answer on here anyway</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>qotd: I&#8217;m not googling that. I&#8217;m sure someone already posted the answer on here anyway</p>
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		<title>By: ironmics</title>
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		<dc:creator>ironmics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 01:37:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a quick note on your cork&#039;d ratio, at work, we had to open and smell 32 pallets of wine. I can tell you that your guest is probably right. We usually got about 7-8 bottles that we dumped because they were corked, because we really didn&#039;t want to mix any of it into the tank. Probably half of them were fine to drink, but 3-4 per pallet were without a doubt, over the top, corked. Which still translates to .5%. These corks came from Scott I believe, so they are from a pretty reputable supplier. There was also a pretty good percentage of oxidized bottles too, about .25% probably, which would be another cork problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a quick note on your cork&#39;d ratio, at work, we had to open and smell 32 pallets of wine. I can tell you that your guest is probably right. We usually got about 7-8 bottles that we dumped because they were corked, because we really didn&#39;t want to mix any of it into the tank. Probably half of them were fine to drink, but 3-4 per pallet were without a doubt, over the top, corked. Which still translates to .5%. These corks came from Scott I believe, so they are from a pretty reputable supplier. There was also a pretty good percentage of oxidized bottles too, about .25% probably, which would be another cork problem.</p>
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		<title>By: richardvinifera</title>
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		<dc:creator>richardvinifera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 19:54:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obviously I don&#039;t know what is happening in the current 2010 episodes as i&#039;m still working through, but it might be best to say a guest should ask a preference or general opinion of the Vayner Nation for the QOTD.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think the jury is still out on corked %ages and screwcaps, as corks are getting cleaner, and screwcaps better. I think &quot;corked&quot; bottles are often misdiagnosed, I had someone telling me a young very TANNIC wine was corked! I can believe 0.5% to 4%.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obviously I don&#39;t know what is happening in the current 2010 episodes as i&#39;m still working through, but it might be best to say a guest should ask a preference or general opinion of the Vayner Nation for the QOTD.</p>
<p>I think the jury is still out on corked %ages and screwcaps, as corks are getting cleaner, and screwcaps better. I think &#8220;corked&#8221; bottles are often misdiagnosed, I had someone telling me a young very TANNIC wine was corked! I can believe 0.5% to 4%.</p>
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		<title>By: eharms</title>
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		<dc:creator>eharms</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 06:14:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GV, I really find it hard to believe that screwtop wines flavors are going into reduction within the first year or even two of being bottled. Wines at around $30 are going under screwcap these days - do you really think the winemakers bottling this stuff are not keeping track of their wine one to two years out? If they were to believe that srewcaps were determental why would they continue to use them? Winemakers view screwtop as a way to consistantly deliver the best product without cork taint. They use this closure on reds that are not inteded to age and for whites.  There definatly is a place for cork but when wines are consumed so fast why not. The cost savings is minimal vs cork.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GV, I really find it hard to believe that screwtop wines flavors are going into reduction within the first year or even two of being bottled. Wines at around $30 are going under screwcap these days &#8211; do you really think the winemakers bottling this stuff are not keeping track of their wine one to two years out? If they were to believe that srewcaps were determental why would they continue to use them? Winemakers view screwtop as a way to consistantly deliver the best product without cork taint. They use this closure on reds that are not inteded to age and for whites.  There definatly is a place for cork but when wines are consumed so fast why not. The cost savings is minimal vs cork.</p>
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		<title>By: eharms</title>
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		<dc:creator>eharms</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 06:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GV, I really find it hard to believe that screwtop wines flavors are going into reduction within the first year or even two of being bottled. Wines at around $30 are going under screwcap these days - do you really think the winemakers bottling this stuff are not keeping track of their wine one to two years out? If they were to believe that srewcaps were determental why would they continue to use them? Winemakers view screwtop as a way to consistantly deliver the best product without cork taint. They use this closure on reds that are not inteded to age and for whites.  There definatly is a place for cork but when wines are consumed so fast why not. The cost savings is minimal vs cork.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GV, I really find it hard to believe that screwtop wines flavors are going into reduction within the first year or even two of being bottled. Wines at around $30 are going under screwcap these days &#8211; do you really think the winemakers bottling this stuff are not keeping track of their wine one to two years out? If they were to believe that srewcaps were determental why would they continue to use them? Winemakers view screwtop as a way to consistantly deliver the best product without cork taint. They use this closure on reds that are not inteded to age and for whites.  There definatly is a place for cork but when wines are consumed so fast why not. The cost savings is minimal vs cork.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 16:16:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I enjoy the show, and Gary&#039;s always very entertaining.  I love the Petalos, and agree it has a lot of interesting things going on.  It&#039;s a wine that improves with air, and it&#039;s a masculine wine, very dark and earthy and brooding, but complex and full of vigor and life.  It&#039;s terrific--perhaps ideal--with roasted pork.  It&#039;s really a wine that takes time to evolve after you open it--another reason I&#039;m a fan of traditional corks. I think this would be a different wine in a screwcap.  And that&#039;s from someone who experiences, on average, a corked bottle in every &quot;several dozen&quot; that I open.  I would say, over time, over thousands of bottles, I get wine affected by TCA at a rate of at least 3-5 bottles in very hundred. I might go 100 bottles without seeing--though rarely--but then might get 3 out of the next 20.  So it&#039;s there, Gary, far more often than you are appreciating.  Put aside &quot;my dog&#039;s bigger than yours&quot; mentality, I like corks, like you, for wines I want to evolve, but you are missing some corked bottles if you think it&#039;s only 1 in 2,500 or fewer.  You&#039;re way, way, way, off on that my friend.  But I like your show.

BEN</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I enjoy the show, and Gary&#8217;s always very entertaining.  I love the Petalos, and agree it has a lot of interesting things going on.  It&#8217;s a wine that improves with air, and it&#8217;s a masculine wine, very dark and earthy and brooding, but complex and full of vigor and life.  It&#8217;s terrific&#8211;perhaps ideal&#8211;with roasted pork.  It&#8217;s really a wine that takes time to evolve after you open it&#8211;another reason I&#8217;m a fan of traditional corks. I think this would be a different wine in a screwcap.  And that&#8217;s from someone who experiences, on average, a corked bottle in every &#8220;several dozen&#8221; that I open.  I would say, over time, over thousands of bottles, I get wine affected by TCA at a rate of at least 3-5 bottles in very hundred. I might go 100 bottles without seeing&#8211;though rarely&#8211;but then might get 3 out of the next 20.  So it&#8217;s there, Gary, far more often than you are appreciating.  Put aside &#8220;my dog&#8217;s bigger than yours&#8221; mentality, I like corks, like you, for wines I want to evolve, but you are missing some corked bottles if you think it&#8217;s only 1 in 2,500 or fewer.  You&#8217;re way, way, way, off on that my friend.  But I like your show.</p>
<p>BEN</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 16:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I enjoy the show, and Gary&#039;s always very entertaining.  I love the Petalos, and agree it has a lot of interesting things going on.  It&#039;s a wine that improves with air, and it&#039;s a masculine wine, very dark and earthy and brooding, but complex and full of vigor and life.  It&#039;s terrific--perhaps ideal--with roasted pork.  It&#039;s really a wine that takes time to evolve after you open it--another reason I&#039;m a fan of traditional corks. I think this would be a different wine in a screwcap.  And that&#039;s from someone who experiences, on average, a corked bottle in every &quot;several dozen&quot; that I open.  I would say, over time, over thousands of bottles, I get wine affected by TCA at a rate of at least 3-5 bottles in very hundred. I might go 100 bottles without seeing--though rarely--but then might get 3 out of the next 20.  So it&#039;s there, Gary, far more often than you are appreciating.  Put aside &quot;my dog&#039;s bigger than yours&quot; mentality, I like corks, like you, for wines I want to evolve, but you are missing some corked bottles if you think it&#039;s only 1 in 2,500 or fewer.  You&#039;re way, way, way, off on that my friend.  But I like your show.

BEN</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I enjoy the show, and Gary&#8217;s always very entertaining.  I love the Petalos, and agree it has a lot of interesting things going on.  It&#8217;s a wine that improves with air, and it&#8217;s a masculine wine, very dark and earthy and brooding, but complex and full of vigor and life.  It&#8217;s terrific&#8211;perhaps ideal&#8211;with roasted pork.  It&#8217;s really a wine that takes time to evolve after you open it&#8211;another reason I&#8217;m a fan of traditional corks. I think this would be a different wine in a screwcap.  And that&#8217;s from someone who experiences, on average, a corked bottle in every &#8220;several dozen&#8221; that I open.  I would say, over time, over thousands of bottles, I get wine affected by TCA at a rate of at least 3-5 bottles in very hundred. I might go 100 bottles without seeing&#8211;though rarely&#8211;but then might get 3 out of the next 20.  So it&#8217;s there, Gary, far more often than you are appreciating.  Put aside &#8220;my dog&#8217;s bigger than yours&#8221; mentality, I like corks, like you, for wines I want to evolve, but you are missing some corked bottles if you think it&#8217;s only 1 in 2,500 or fewer.  You&#8217;re way, way, way, off on that my friend.  But I like your show.</p>
<p>BEN</p>
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		<title>By: JayZee</title>
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		<dc:creator>JayZee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 17:44:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see that there is a rather divergent opinion on the guest for this show.  I had no real problems with the Wine Chick.  She spoke her mind.  Your opinion may vary.  Whatever.  I found the discussion on cork vs. screw-tops interesting, but I think Gary was way off on his &quot;1 in 2500&quot; estimate of corked wine.  I don&#039;t think that it is the cork opposition statement of 5-10% or more.  I don&#039;t think it is 2%.  According to a review of my tasting notes over the years, I have found 5 corked bottles in about 1700 so that is about .2% from my experience in recent years.  And, yes, I do drink a lot of 10 year old or more wine.

QOTD: Stupid question - it was trivia rather than opinion.  The latter is far more interesting, although at least she was ready with her question and not surprised by the concept.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see that there is a rather divergent opinion on the guest for this show.  I had no real problems with the Wine Chick.  She spoke her mind.  Your opinion may vary.  Whatever.  I found the discussion on cork vs. screw-tops interesting, but I think Gary was way off on his &#8220;1 in 2500&#8243; estimate of corked wine.  I don&#8217;t think that it is the cork opposition statement of 5-10% or more.  I don&#8217;t think it is 2%.  According to a review of my tasting notes over the years, I have found 5 corked bottles in about 1700 so that is about .2% from my experience in recent years.  And, yes, I do drink a lot of 10 year old or more wine.</p>
<p>QOTD: Stupid question &#8211; it was trivia rather than opinion.  The latter is far more interesting, although at least she was ready with her question and not surprised by the concept.</p>
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		<title>By: JayZee</title>
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		<dc:creator>JayZee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 17:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see that there is a rather divergent opinion on the guest for this show.  I had no real problems with the Wine Chick.  She spoke her mind.  Your opinion may vary.  Whatever.  I found the discussion on cork vs. screw-tops interesting, but I think Gary was way off on his &quot;1 in 2500&quot; estimate of corked wine.  I don&#039;t think that it is the cork opposition statement of 5-10% or more.  I don&#039;t think it is 2%.  According to a review of my tasting notes over the years, I have found 5 corked bottles in about 1700 so that is about .2% from my experience in recent years.  And, yes, I do drink a lot of 10 year old or more wine.

QOTD: Stupid question - it was trivia rather than opinion.  The latter is far more interesting, although at least she was ready with her question and not surprised by the concept.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see that there is a rather divergent opinion on the guest for this show.  I had no real problems with the Wine Chick.  She spoke her mind.  Your opinion may vary.  Whatever.  I found the discussion on cork vs. screw-tops interesting, but I think Gary was way off on his &#8220;1 in 2500&#8243; estimate of corked wine.  I don&#8217;t think that it is the cork opposition statement of 5-10% or more.  I don&#8217;t think it is 2%.  According to a review of my tasting notes over the years, I have found 5 corked bottles in about 1700 so that is about .2% from my experience in recent years.  And, yes, I do drink a lot of 10 year old or more wine.</p>
<p>QOTD: Stupid question &#8211; it was trivia rather than opinion.  The latter is far more interesting, although at least she was ready with her question and not surprised by the concept.</p>
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