The 4 Hour Wine Tasting – Episode #665

April 27, 2009

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Tim Ferriss, author of The 4-Hour Work Week, tastes 3 Malbecs with Gary Vaynerchuk.

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Wines tasted in this episode:

2007 Bodegas Goulart Malbec ClassicArgentine Malbec play review at cork'd
2005 Chateau Du Cedre Cahors HeritageCahors play review at cork'd
2006 Lagarde Malbec Single VineyardArgentine Malbec play review at cork'd

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242 Responses

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  1. April 28, 2009

    Ryan D

    QotD: I wouldn’t change a thing actually, because I’m studying to become a teacher and that’s something I can see myself doing until the end of my days. SOmething new every day [and summer's off!].

  2. April 28, 2009

    vinoBlue

    Gary, it’s great to have you back. I had to dig through the archives to get my fix for the last 10 days or so. I don’t know what I’m going do when WLTV only makes you 99% happy…

    QOTD: I only plan on retiring in the sense that I won’t be working for someone else anymore – I’ll be my own boss. In that sense, I’ll be retiring in the next 10-15 years and I’m not out of college yet. Go Blue!

  3. April 28, 2009

    Colin Devroe

    I have to answer the QOTD for Tim: I don’t plan on retiring either. I plan on “doing other things”. I’ve always been able to find things that I find enjoyable that can also earn an income – and so I plan to continue doing that which I love for the rest of my life.

  4. April 28, 2009

    Andrew D

    Thanks guys

    Interesting show, Tim sounds like a very interesting guy.

    QOTD: I suppose, what job I would do, how many hours I worked, how hard I worked, where I worked and who I worked with would all be things to think about

    Cheers
    Andrew

  5. April 28, 2009

    joel delon

    Hi gary after a short vacation i turn back on a great malbec episode and a disappointed bee looking for pollen grains :) by the way gary is your office
    full of flowers or plants ? you should grow a tiny vine on your desk… thank you for your focus on languedoc wines built very often on syrah, grenache, carignan and mourvedre
    from south of france

  6. April 28, 2009

    Beverly

    GREAT GUEST!!! He sounds very intelligent! I will look up his book.

    Great show…love the malbec! I’ll go get one this afternoon!

    QOTD: Love to work toward being able to travel a couple of months and work the other months. That would be enough down time so I wouldn’t get born at either.

    P.S. How’s Lizzie?

  7. April 28, 2009

    Richie

    QOTD: I haven’t even started working so I have never given thought to retirment so I can really answer the Question. But I can imagine that things would change if retirment would fall away.

  8. April 28, 2009

    Tom_in_London

    I enjoyed the show (great exploration of “why do/don’t you like the wine” and exposure of “the oak monster”).

    My wife and I enjoy malbecs from Argentina.

  9. April 28, 2009

    apj_bobswineguy

    Great show! Not a big malbec fan though. I think they are popular because they are cheap.
    Oddly, The super-expensive ones are not as appealing as the mid-range ones (to me).
    I have had the good fortune to try many different malbecs in many different price ranges.

    Chile is smart. Do not bet on one varietal (like malbec, shiraz, carmenere). The picture is getting too cloudy in the Argentina Malbec category. The bad to mediocre are dragging down the exceptional.

  10. April 28, 2009

    Michael D

    Loved the show about malbec, GV, cuz it’s a fantastic varietal.

    QOTD: If you take retirement out of the equation, people would probably concentrate on finding a career that makes them happy instead of focusing so much on money. Money is important, but not more so than happiness and mental health. I recently “retired” from lawyering to take up teaching. The money is not as good, but the satisfaction is far greater for me. However, I now have to work harder at finding good value wines! Like malbecs.

  11. April 28, 2009

    apj_bobswineguy

    I had to stop this at the 27:14 mark and comment: (b4 I forget): this is a great conversation. Tim says he is a “naive” taster. BUT, actually, since he drinks wine a lot WITH meals, he is, IMHO, an expert opinion. Someone we in the wine trade should listen to.

    It also makes me think of the fallacy of wine critics judging 40-50 wines in one sitting.
    Many times, the “blockbuster taste” of a wine becomes palate-fatigue after a few glasses.

    I’m glad Tim expresses the context in which he judges a wine. Earlier, he said, yes-if I was just having a glass of Malbec #2. Many times, I have had a person say they love a wine after only one sip.

  12. April 28, 2009

    Kevin the Sooner

    Malbec. That was the first bottle of wine I ever purchased at a liquor store. This year. I’m young. 2008 Crios Malbec by Susan Balbo. Gary mentioned her! Is that one over oaked?

    QOTD: Retire? Sounds boring…

  13. April 28, 2009

    Logan

    Great episode, guys! Tim is a stud- don’t worry Gary, you’re in good shape too!

    QOTD: I just turned 24, and I’m not even thinking as far as 30, never mind 65!!

    BTW I loved the female innuendo you guys worked into today’s episode- the Argentinan women, Tim’s “one night stand” comment, etc. Risque! Remember, the core of this show is wine, which means your audience is, for all intensive purposes, 21+, so don’t be afraid to get a little adult now and then!

    Keep up the good work.

  14. April 28, 2009

    Will

    QOTD: You become a waiter…

  15. April 28, 2009

    Christopher Scoggin

    Good show and interesting guest. I will have to track down the C.

    QOTD: I already know I will ‘never’ be able to afford retire so there would be no change for me.

  16. April 28, 2009

    Mari Smith

    Woah!!! Gary – this is a GENIUS episode!!! I thoroughly enjoyed every minute. You and Tim make one dynamite team. You guys ought to do more shows!

    I adore Tim too; loved his preso at Blog World Expo last year *almost* as much as I loved yours. LOL!

    Seriously though, you should totally have this episode transcribed and made into a wee eBook. hehe. You two cover a whole bunch of great metaphors and innuendos. ;) Lmao at the 4.5 hour workweek. And wine + love handles. What a h00t.

    Re Tim’s question – as a committed serial entrepreneur, I never ever plan to retire. It has the word “tire” in it. haha. I love what I do with a PASSION and care about peeps more than anything. So, I’ll always be involved in some business projects.

    I’m always raving about how Tim’s 4HWW is NOT about the four hours. It’s about doing your dream life *NOW*. Not waiting til the kids are grown, you’ve lost weight, got more money, got the right education, blah blah blah. ;D

    Cheers,
    @marismith

  17. April 28, 2009

    J Crazy

    Retirement, not for it.

    Yo, you should check out Heller’s Organically Grown Cachagua Cab. Mr. Heller is a great guy and told me that if anyone drinks his wines and gets a headache he’ll refund them the price of the bottle. This guarantee is void if you have more than one bottle.

  18. April 28, 2009

    wayno da wino

    Bottle o’ Wiiiiiine, Fruit o’ daaa Viiiiiine, when Ya gonna let me get
    soooooooobeeeeeeeer…..???……… :)

  19. April 28, 2009

    shawnandlu

    Help me Gary, they pick on me in the forums. I don’t know if I can take their big bad comments. On a separate note this episode had a newly published case from The Supreme Court of Iowa feel to it.

  20. April 28, 2009

    wayno da wino

    Yo Mott, U Bee-Killer, I’m reportin’ U to PETA & the Humane Society!!!!!!!
    :)

  21. April 28, 2009

    ZJK

    QOTD: When I retire I know I’ll do something, prob. work at the golf course until I die because that makes me happy.

    Great show with a unique guest, good interview format and I enjoyed the ways you used the two wines to open his pallete to what he liked. I have only had one Malbec, but I might think about picking out another the next time I’m at the wine shop.

  22. April 28, 2009

    Megan

    Awww, Gary, your “bromance” with Tim is quite cute. :-) It’s obvious you guys are good friends and enjoy being around each other — that’s nice to see. Really enjoyed Tim as a guest on the show; can’t wait to go to Argentina and eat some grass-fed beef and drink Malbec during leisurely long dinners while on my 6-month South America excursion.

    QOTD: I think I would finally devote myself to doing something I love (wine, travel writing, music, etc.) without being scared of not having financial security.

  23. April 28, 2009

    Corked2Buck

    Thank God Kahuna stopped posting!

  24. April 28, 2009

    Beeper

    QOTD: If retirement were out of the question…

    I would move more aggressively towards an equity-based income. For now, I’ll continue to procrastinate.

    BTW love the show – keep it up.

  25. April 28, 2009

    Don

    I wanted to tell Tim that I went to the Gran Bar Danzon in Buenos Aires when I was there in December 2007, before spending 2 weeks fly fishing in Patagonia. I agree with him its a great bar!

    We also discovered “Shoeless Joe’s El Alamo Bar” because we needed to find an American sports bar so we could watch the Redskins beat the Cowboys in their final preseason game to get into the playoffs. Too bad they lost to the Seahawks in the 1st round… They serve HUGE pitchers of beer at that bar too.

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