Domestic Rosé Tasting With Katie Lee Joel

Domestic Rosé Tasting With Katie Lee Joel – Episode #673

May 8, 2009

Gary Vaynerchuk visits Katie Lee Joel and totes along some Rosé, which just happens to be her favorite!

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Wines tasted in this episode:

2008 Quivira Grenache Rose
2007 St Laurent Syrah-Rose
2008 A Donkey and Goat Isabel’s Cuvee Grenache Rose

Links mentioned in today’s episode.

188 Responses

May 8, 2009

Daniel Kemp
Awesome episode.

Katie Lee Joel is very hot.
May 8, 2009

SteveW Colorado
Good, fun conversation – nice episode.

Not sold on West Virginia skiing and white water rafting – Come on, I live in Colorado.

Ok, I have to admit that it’s pink and I just haven’t been able to bring myself to buy it – ever. However, I’m intrigued and will try to man-up and buy some.

QOTD – White Chocolate Raspberry Ice Cream Sundae – seems like a good pairing and one you could make out of Rose. Fresh raspberries, lemon, sugar, rose – cook until combined, pour over ice cream and then drizzle the white chocolate on top. (I bought a white chocolate Easter bunny for this very purpose.)
May 8, 2009

CBG
I’m in love….and not with the rose.
May 8, 2009

CBG
I almost forgot…

QOTD: rose on ice, baby!!
May 8, 2009

dc7
Noche (chocolate wine) from Cooper Vineyards ~ on ice!
May 8, 2009

bt86
Sweet, good times. Top 5? Show just seems much better looking today
May 8, 2009

NY Pete
Top 10 … ha ha
May 8, 2009

Derek S
Top 10! Whooopee!
May 8, 2009

Lau
She’s niiiice!
May 8, 2009

AaronB
Top 10. First time in a while.
May 8, 2009

ChrisR
I must say, I have changed my opinion about KLJ after watching this episode. I was not a fan of her on Top Chef, but she showed so much character and was a really good guest on WLTV.

QOTD: Rose (like the flower) water ice cream with vanilla-cardamon poached pears and a rose (the wine) reduction.
May 8, 2009

chadd
wow screw the rose wine give me more kathie…she is the best guest by far u have had on wltv…enjoy ur weekend
May 8, 2009

Richie
Hey great episode. Awesome guest!
May 8, 2009

ben from boston
i may just have to try some katie… I mean rose.
May 8, 2009

italianwinelover
Nice episode – need to explore Rose more and this show backed up that idea!

Gary I still think your cuter than her!
May 8, 2009

castello
I was at Quivera in March and their wine is very good. Now I need to try the Rose. Great guest, never heard of her.
QOTD I’d like to try the Rose with a dark chocolate sundae.
May 8, 2009

Steve
Hey Gare, could you get me Katie’s phone number before her husband comes home? Thanks.
May 8, 2009

Kevin K
It’s funny that the “biggest” star to ever appear on the Thunder show accidentally walked “on set”.
May 8, 2009

Slushpuppy
Katie, which town in W.V. did you grow up in? My brother lived in Elkins for a time, and the rural area was outstanding! Since you like Rose on ice, how about some Rose ice pops from the freezer? Nice job Gary, too bad I could hear Mott panting in the background!
Smell it first. TR
May 8, 2009

Jayhitek
Was BethO there too?
Is that birds in the back ground? SashaV must have been psyched to hear that.
Katie is a biscuit.
QOTD1: Jets? Who cares.. Go Pats.
Not really into twitter. I signed up for Howard Stern and the Smoking Gun’s twitter and I realized I don’t really want my cell phone buzzing every time they have something useless to tell me. Sorry GV. I know your into twittering, but do you really want to know that I am about to bail out of work right now and head home to walk the dog?
QOTD2: Hmmm.. I don’t know if I have ever had a rose. No idea. Good luck with that.
Keep up the good work. Great show today.
May 8, 2009

Kevin K
QOTD: I keep it simple. Fresh berries and whipped cream with a bottle of rose.
May 8, 2009

KAHUNA
I would say the show got a lot prettier! Doesn’t she know Gary doesnt read!

Gary is Oprah and I am his Stedman!
May 8, 2009

urbwes
Great episode.
Gary, when you mentioned the crushed fruit juice on the last wine did you mean “compote”? (I had it over in Ukraine so that must be a connection to your heritage)

QOTD: looking up the definition of compote I would say that would be the dessert to pair with rose. (The juice compote name must be a foreign language difference).
May 8, 2009

KAHUNA
Does Katie dig chubby Italian guys!
May 8, 2009

Deano
Gary this was an awesome episode!!! I hope I can find that last Rose it sounds LEGIT!!!!!
May 8, 2009

KAHUNA
Gary get off this warm wine bullcrap already- What the hell! I just googles Katie and didnt even know she was married to Billy Joel. So I do have a shot with her then clearly weight isn’t an issue!
May 8, 2009

KAHUNA
I only drink water room tempeture so I can see if it has flaws- Gary doesnt drink wine or water?
May 8, 2009

RANDI
GARY!!!
Katie..you look just like my cousin Linda…just saying…
Good luck w/your book!

QOTD: Chocolate Mousse

xo
May 8, 2009

KAHUNA
Billy put on a free concert with Bryan Adams in Rome by the collesium and it was awesome- A real great part of our trip a few years ago
May 8, 2009

RANDI
Oh..Katie…Billy Joel’s wife?
Maybe i will see you in the Hamptons this summer?
May 8, 2009

KAHUNA
The hair grab and spit is just wrong on so many levels! I have to go be alone now! Did she just say masterate or …..
May 8, 2009

KAHUNA
Before you ask Katie you can follow me @kahuna75

QOTD: I actually would go with a nice cheese platter of some Gorgonzole drizzled with a good balsamic, Stilton with an apricot compote, and Roquefort with a pear compote
May 8, 2009

ex-lurkdawg
Great episode. I’m not sure if you meant the rose would be in the dessert or served with it. Since I’m not a creative or good dessert cook I’ll go with the pairing. I’d have it with a cheese and fruit plate. If the wine had some sweetness, like rose d’Anjou, I’d have it with some kind of fruit tart. Thanks!
May 8, 2009

Dr T in NC
QOTD — almond cookies
May 8, 2009

Kittysafe
katie is adorable, great show. I’ve never drank much Rose but I am looking for the Donkey Goat, not having luck finding it yet though *sniffle*

Great show gary as always.

Off the top off my head and having no experience with Rose, I will throw a desert guess out there: chocolate chip cupcakes
May 8, 2009

TMP
QOTD: rose and bread pudding. BTW…Great cameo from Billy!
May 8, 2009

Lawrence leichtman
Liked KLJ here. Would make a warm berry dessert with Rose for me with some whip cream on top. I have just started getting Roses for the summer so I will have to try the 1st and 3rd.
May 8, 2009

Dean
What a dynamite smile! –(sorry, not you Gary). I just bought a South African Rose’ I will now have to drink it as I do not want to wait too long….Great guest.
May 8, 2009

purplejuicebruce
What a sweet guest G.V. Thanks
May 8, 2009

gomestar
Yay for a rose episode! I love a cool bottle on a hot summer day with some fresh pastries, perfect!

QOTD: thick, dense, and warm chocolate cake. I crave…
May 8, 2009

BrianAF
Man Katie is hot. I need to start writing songs.
May 8, 2009

guymandude
Great guest! will have to try that rose.
QOTD; strawberrys
May 8, 2009

John
Gary has the ability to quickly get into a comfortable harmony with all of his guests. And Katie was delightful.
May 8, 2009

Christophe
Always looking for a good rose when the weather starts warming up. Thanks for that.

I don’t know that I would make anything with my rose. I just want to enjoy it outside on a nice spring/summer day.
May 8, 2009

F Jackie Martling
Just caught up on the shows this week. All good except this one. I started to wonder, why have this really dull person on? And then it hit me, its a favor to Billy. I understand. It’s always funny to see a food critic who knows nothing about wine. You think they would take the time to do a little research for their profession. Oh, I forgot, Billy. I understand.
May 8, 2009

jason carey
You know , what do you mean by room temp? Nothing should be tasted at 70 degrees. if you mean 62 degrees i agree.. but do you eat ice cream at room temprature..?
May 8, 2009

botrytisvirtuoso1819
very nice. i’ll go to west virginia if katie goes with me, i’d go anywhere in fact. i am nominating katie for the coolest chick ever award. does she like botrytis?

QOTD; how about some fresh fruit with a good rose.
May 8, 2009

NY Pete
Kahuna is like a runaway train tonight …
May 8, 2009

NY Pete
BTW Katie, my QOTD … what the hell did you see in Billy to go head over heals in love?
May 8, 2009

jason carey
BTW Donkey and Goat and Quivira are two of the more frenchy style producers of rose .. Quivira is Biodynamic, btw…Donkey and Goat makes super duper Rose.. the 08 rocks!! I love Donkey and Goat Rose. I have already consumed 3 bottles this spring..
I do wish that there were a more mineraly and less fruity rose made here..like the Clos Roche Blanche rose (Pineau d’ Aunis). Some Cali roses are too heavy .. esp the Syrah based ones.. I like more Cinsault in my roses and less bubble gum on the nose..
May 8, 2009

Derek F.
One of the greatest guest of all time…really loved this episode. I must also admit that I have been becoming a fan of Rose wines, very interesting wines, they just need to be given a chance.
May 8, 2009

sharon
qotd: Fruit and nuts with honey (pears, strawberries, walnuts)

Thanks for the fun show and guest. I love the title of her cookbook. And
I guess I’ll try a little of that Donkey and Goat during the summer.
May 8, 2009

sam
Pretty show!

Gary kills it once again with a hot topic for the summer season.

I believe rosé to be a serious drink for hot weather.

I wouldn’t pair it with dessert however, unless it was a dark chocolate or creamy dessert without too much sugar. Sugar would up the acid.

Cool!
May 8, 2009

Dereck
If you’re into Rosé wine check out http://www.rap.com . . . It’s the Rosé version of ZAP. The annual tasting is May12th in S.F.
May 8, 2009

Alco Holland
Great show G! Love the hall as background!
May 8, 2009

Brooklyn Paul
good show… Quivira has always been a good Rose producer in my mind.

QOTD? I got nuthin’
May 8, 2009

Harry
Nice job Katie charming the Vayner-nation. Surprised Gary couldn’t shmooze Billy into saying hello.
I’m gonna go find the Donkey and Goat, as I’m generally unenthusiastic about rose, although I’ve had a few that really impressed me. Good what its hot, or when you need something refreshing, like when dancing. I love rose champagne though, which I find almost everyone loves, if they’re not sissys.
I had a great pairing the other night at Ubuntu in Napa:
Lightly roasted wild strawberries next to a bit of lemon verbana custard and granita (I don’t remember what flavor), paired with a rose sparkler from alsace. If that doesn’t make you smile, you need to check into therapy.
May 8, 2009

@BillyGadol
QOTD: Creme Brulle. Hey Mott, you never linked up her Twitter name. You dropped the ball, bro!
May 8, 2009

Vanguy
Gary, I think the word you were looking for is “compote”.
May 8, 2009

Pepel
nice one. way to bring the rose episode just in time for summer.

QOTD: Some Ice cubes
May 8, 2009

J Crazy
Turkey meat pie. Meat pies are as close as I’ll get to dessert. Or maybe I’d use my grandma’s old recipe for dessert: beer.
May 8, 2009

Chase
Great show, I will have to give try out a few more Rose’s.

Gary, you have to try a slice of cucumber in your water… it’s a subtle freshness that does wonders!
May 8, 2009

chuckley
what a fun episode. vary up beat. plus she was cute never had rose’ and good ones to try?
May 8, 2009

Karen Wickes
I am one of those rose haters..just might give donkey and
goat a try..
May 8, 2009

Bobby
I agree with BrianAF Katie was pretty hot. I even think Gary liked Katie maybe too much. When she said the thing about the big oyster I about lost it… anybody else catch that or am I just perverted?
May 8, 2009

@BigAppleChannel
Wow, Chad Pennington and John Denver mentioned in the same epsiode! Nice! Speaking of QB’s, Brett Farve retire already! video http://tinyurl.com/pxkxwj
May 8, 2009

Frank Petersen
I agree that Katie was charming and very sincere in her approach.
I am going to look for the Donkey & Goat rose wine.

As for a dessert item to go with rose,how about a plum and apricot tart with a little almond paste in the crust to add just a bit of sweetness? As long as you go for fruit flavors and not sweetness it should work well with the rose wine.
May 8, 2009

Vintage59
GV, Your reading my mind .I was just searching Rose’ last evening on the WL.

QoTD: Fresh slices strawberries,with bit of fresh mint topped with a little creme’fresh paired with the donkey and goat rose’. Home run buddy!
May 8, 2009

thirstygreek
I usually say great show but she was a DUD! Can we see a Rose’ show with someone who is not a poser?? Its not that she knows nothing about wine because those are usually the best guests. It is that she is a fake and is supported by Billy’s cash. Very dull personality as well. I like when you have people like yourself who worked hard to get where they are eg Kevin Rose, Tim Ferris hell even the great one! not this chick with who is all of the sudden a food critic…sorry def not a great episode.

Can we have another Rose’ show plz?

@ NY Pete: CASH
May 8, 2009

*/^_^\*
who is this billy everyone is talking about?

QOTD: if i am drinking rose with dessert, it probably is dessert.
May 9, 2009

manonthemoon
Pink love, always nice to hear of a decent rose to try without having to shell out 30+ dollars on Tempier.

QOTD: cheese plate, thats what goes with rose
May 9, 2009

David T (@ONUMello)
Fun guest. Too bad I caught on to Top Chef in Season 2.

QOTD: I have a (rose colored) dessert I call cherry salad that uses canned cherry pie filling, crushed pineapple, sweetened condensed milk, & Cool Whip- that may be interesting to add a dash of a rose to… but it’s very sweet, so I don’t know how mose roses would pair with it (since I prefer dry roses vs white zins which I am not a huge fan of).
May 9, 2009

rjh
crazy cameo from billy joel – had to rewind a few times to make sure i saw what i saw…not the best show on wine library tv, particularly since i don’t like rose, but definitely a nice house…and that’s gotta count for something.
May 9, 2009

my2cents
Quivira is very close to me and they have always made very good Zins in my opinion, very good value at around 20 bones. I didn’t even think they did rose. I had better go visit again soon.

Well I can agree with some of the comments previous to mine. Not the best guest but not the worst by far. All and all though BORING. That place sounded like a cave and looked it.

Qotd: Did she mean recipe with rose in it or pair with rose?

Her husband is turning 60 tomorrow and she’s not even 30. Gold digger and cradle robber. Whatever, love follows no logic.

Gary you need to drink water. Look up how being even mildly dehydrated can reduce your brain functions. The body will shut off the cognitive sections of the brain in order to keep the lungs breathing and the heart pumping. If you experience feelings like depression, worrying, isolation, not following the content of a conversation, being dehydrated can cause and/or make them worse. If you ever want to own the Jets…drink more water. 8 glasses a day has been debunked, but you got to consume more than a couple glasses a day for sure. My dad is 75 and he was getting to where he seemed like he was 85 0r 90 for a while until he had to go into the hospital for a week. During that time he was re hydrated and by the end he was back to being the dad I knew and not the frail wreck he’d become. Just some FYI to help you keep it together for the future.

Oprah is a load of shit.

Sorry Kahuna and others but “billy” can have her, oh he already does. All teeth and eyebrows. I’m sorry that was mean.
May 9, 2009

arbyn
Answer to Katie’s question of the day would be either strawberry short cake or Ruhbarb pie.
May 9, 2009

David Benjamin
Really enjoyed this episode. As a self proclaimed foodie, I like the shows where you feature guests like Katie.
May 9, 2009

Pangaea
bleh.
May 9, 2009

Cornelis
Unclassy, uninsifghtful and moronic comments by “my2cents” I see..

QOTD: Can’t see myself drinking a rosé so sweet it would go with a sweet dessert. I’d maybe try a lemon zest pie for the experience. Cheese could be very nice though.
May 9, 2009

TommyB
Great show and Katy was a great guest, lovely down to earth girl. You also interviewed well Gary; more shows like this would be a winner. Did I detect a bit of chemistry there Gary??!
May 9, 2009

TommyB
I’ve just been looking at some past comments and am a little shocked really; what’s with all this abuse for Katie everyone?? Don’t understand people sometimes. Leave her alone!!
May 9, 2009

Sonia
I liked Katie as a guest she was light hearted and in pretentious… Good pairing with the Roses.
QOTD: I think I’d just go with a assortment of fresh berries
May 9, 2009

Jeff R
I find it interesting to read the comments before I view the episode. In this case, they were all over the place from this being a boring guest, a gold digger to this being a super guest, witty, down to earth, etc. I didn’t know what to expect.

After viewing the episode, I’m pleasantly surprised. I agree with one’s post that she fit the rose profile – not too pretentious, casual style, etc. Surprisingly, she is very young for Billy Joel. However, I’m sure he likes what he sees in her – she’s fun, laid back, etc. I didn’t have any problems with the guest as some others seemed to have.

Gary – you do make all your guests feel at ease. That’s great!

QTD – I’d go with a lite fruit type dessert. Maybe a pound cake or angel food topped with sliced berries and flavored whipped cream.
May 9, 2009

Dylan
I am fairly confident that I have been in love with this woman since she was the host of “Top Chef”.
May 9, 2009

matt w
i liked this episode. i wouldn’t say i hate on the pink stuff, but i just don’t drink a whole lot of it. i definitely do enjoy it as a food wine though. and i liked seeing katie on the show, i’ve watched top chef from the beginning and liked her as the host.

qotd: i have no idea. i don’t tend to serve dry wines with sweet desserts, though i guess if i had to pick something i would go with something light and fruity.
May 9, 2009

JLee
woh~ didn’t even know she was married to billy joel until i read the comments!

overall, i’d give this episode a major pazzzz (w/ 4 z’s yes). sure she seemed nice and down to earth like lot of people said…but i’m just having a hard time figuring out what she actually added to the show (I mean, this is a wine show first…never mind her being attractive, nice, etc.).

i do agree that roses should be given some major considerations and they are serious wines too…but if you’re saying that with an advocate who uses ice to cool them…

mehhhh (w/ 4 h’s)
May 9, 2009

Adam J
Good show,Katie was a fun guest. Gary, you gotta drink more water:)!
QOTD: It sounded like she was asking about a recipe with rose actually in it? If so…I’d say an off-dry version made into an aspic gelee and served with fresh fruits.
May 9, 2009

MaryS
Gary—-Drink more water! Seriously. Love fresh Rose in the heat of the summer. Thanks for doing the episode. It’s chic to drink pink!
May 9, 2009

David Dadekian
Katie Lee didn’t annoy me at all, so I apologize for my preconceived (and completely unrevealed until I typed this now) notion. She was a good guest representing someone who admitted not knowing anything, but was interested and understood what she was being taught. Thanks very much, Katie Lee. Much appreciated guest.

QOTD: Not a huge dessert maker, but I would think something with raspberries or blackberries (especially after the notes on that last rose).
May 9, 2009

James R
I really liked this episode, I thought Katie was a good guest. I was trying to think where I’ve seen Katie before, then it hit me…Top Chef!
May 9, 2009

Phillip
One of your better shows and guest. Made me want to try again rose’s!

As for Katie’s question, I’d pair it with a Berry Kuchen where you coat the crust in Deep Dark Chocolate! (Sounds like a good match.)
May 9, 2009

Kathy Hughes
Fun ep. I’m going to have to try Rose again….loved it in the 60’s. Yup, I’m old…AND I have tix to Billy Joel and Sir Elton at Gillette Stadium in July !

QOTD: Strawberry glazed cheesecake. If you’d like the recipe….just say the word. Naples Kathy aka Champagne Lady
May 9, 2009

wayno da wino
NIIIIIIIICE Episode!!! Gotta get me somma that Donkey & Goat Vino!!!
How come y’all didn’t give Billy some Vino????

qotd: Gave up desserts, so no input there….
May 9, 2009

DF
Classic GV moment that Billy Joel is in the background of the show in a totally spontaneous way. Awesome. Nowhere else on TV or the Internet can you get that.

QOTD: I don’t know any dessert recipe I’d use, but I drank a French rose with a shrimp a la sauce americaine in France a long time ago and I can still remember it like it was yesterday. So shrimp a la sauce americaine.
May 9, 2009

Jay
Awesome episode!!
May 9, 2009

Kevin C
Drink a few bottles of the pink stuff each summer, will look for the Donkey & Goat. Nice show, would have liked Katie to have had a few more food pairing suggestions on her own.
May 9, 2009

Victoria
Great episode Gary! Glad I watched so I could get some good tips on Rose as well as excited to get Katie’s new book:) Thanks!
May 9, 2009

Meg Houston Maker
I wouldn’t go for a predominantly fruity dessert to pair with the rosé. I’d be concerned that the brightness of the fruit would clash with the acid/fruit of the wine. Instead, I’d try to compliment it with a dessert that had predominantly caramel/vanilla/cream flavors, with just a bit of deeply cooked fruit to tie the dessert and wine together. Perhaps a Tarte Tatin; or a lemon pound cake with a few strawberries simmered in port, plus a dribble of crème Anglais; or a vanilla arborio rice pudding with rhubarb stewed in red wine (see recipe in this month’s Food & Wine). In other words, I’d go for something equal in intensity but opposite in flavor profile, with one element to tie the two together.
May 9, 2009

Phil G
Like Rose – think it is still underrated. Love the berries and acid…

QOTD – I would love a fruit tart (like a frutti di bosco) with a nice crisp rose
May 9, 2009

Ryan
Katie was a great guest. She seemed really honest and down to earth. some of the other guests are really in sales mode and get annoying quick. She just seemed like she was having fun. Too bad you couldn’t get more of the Piano man in the vid!
May 9, 2009

NY Pete
DTTW … I’m in love …
May 9, 2009

John G
Awesome cameo!
May 9, 2009

Margaret
Love this episode. Katie Lee Joel is great, she’s the new Martha Stewart. Up and coming.
May 9, 2009

gotsha
QOTD..How ’bout a raspberry creme brulee? I’m assuming the show was taped on Long Island. With that in mind, below is a link to a Barefoot Contessa Recipe.

Hey GV…when are you gonna get Ina Garten on the show (Ms. Barefoot). That would be a hoot!

http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/ina-garten/raspberry-creme-brulee-recipe/index.html
May 9, 2009

bt86
QOTD: Why, I’d make a rhubarb pie with a butter crust, of course!
May 9, 2009

Steve
You should drink that Portugese rose on the show, I’d love to see how it is.
QOTD: Either sargria or use it to make a reduction sauce for game.
May 9, 2009

canadapete
QOTD – rose and custard.
May 9, 2009

M
You may have convinced me to try another rose. I try one every few years.

QOTD: ?? I’m done drinking my wine with dinner. I rarely pair wine with dessert. Plus others already said the buttery rhubarb pie.
May 9, 2009

mrzitro
The Portuguese rose: what was it?
Isn’t anyone else curious?

QOTD: I’ve never had a rose with dessert. I’d try it with cheese cake perhaps.
May 9, 2009

Ash Morris
For those who don’t know the Portuguese rose is called Casal Mendez. Worked in a bottleshop in Sydney a few years ago and that stuff would walk out the door by the case.

If I remember correctly, quite sweet, not very good, and $10 a bottle.

My first comment-a podcast viewer so not on the site often.
May 9, 2009

WineWoman
QOTD: I don’t really pair dry wines with dessert, but I suppose you could macerate some strawberries or even watermelon with the dry rose–not completely certain about the end result–might have to add some sugar or serve over Angel Food Cake. ALso substitute the Rose for the Marsala wine in a Zabaglione egg custard recipe. I liked Gary’s food pairing with Crabcakes and oysters.
May 9, 2009

ChinonRouge
At the moment I just can’t imagine getting into Roses, but if I see the Donkey and Goat, I’ll give it a try. Thanks for the show. Bringin on the thunder.
May 10, 2009

Andy
I’m a rose hater, Gary. Rose sucks, especially if it’s from Washington state and I’m from Seattle. I don’t mind Bandol rose but I’ll only drink it if someone else is buying. Katie Lee is hella cute btw
May 10, 2009

oscar falcón lara
Oh God: I am leaving a comment which gives me mixed feelings.
a) Jumilla Rosé and Rosé D’Anjou are great for me.
b) Nice hustle but won’t be buying her books, unfortunately.

If only for the fact that Billy “the piano man” Joel (one of my favorite musicians) interrupted (which is a cool thing in itself having the interview at his home) and is married to the guest, I didn’t like this episode, I don’t really think much of KLJ, Sorry but it’s a fact (I can see you love her Gary, which is OK, she has some points to her credit here being a chef and taking your advice and pointers). She may have “credibility” in the USA, but not much elsewhere.

QOTD: Easy, I have a ton of them.- Milk caramel+pecan cake, profiteroles(trust me), Bananas Foster, Mango cream pie. For me, Rosé goes well with candied fruits, yams, sweet potatoes, and if you can imagine, strawberry/vanilla smoothies.
May 10, 2009

one comment guy
I read a few comments from people hating on this episode and had to comment. to be honest i loved it! i am 22 years old and do not know a lot about wine and it is great to have good entertainment while i learn a little. plus the background was not horribly lit and boring. i would say gary is the bridge between the people who know it all and the people who have no clue and that is a noble and i’m sure difficult place to be.
May 10, 2009

joel delon
hi gary great show ! believe me or not all the best rosé i tasted were made with grenache (believe my winemaking experience from south of france you should drink the rosé of the year) thank you kind katie can’t follow you on twitter i’m on my space and my mother for mother days beleives i’m on facebook QOTD : obviously the best rosé should be served with the dessert “la forêt noire” a grenache rosé ! ps : gary do not “put a label” on south of france with this tradition of rosé we used to make rosé traditionally because it’s hot on the med coast and rosé is the most refreshing drink
May 10, 2009

Daria Kushmelyn
Did not know she was Mrs. Billy Joel, did not know the old guy who came down the stairs was her husband. But I liked the setting, a very pretty minimalist decor. Kathy Lee didn’t seem very knowledgeable about food either, but perhaps she was just in a relaxed mode because she was on somebody else’s show. Will look her up (never heard of her before). As for the roses, I’ve been curious about them so thanks for this show. I will definitely try the Goat and Donkey if they sell them up here.

Daria
May 10, 2009

Chris Lotz
Billy Joel’s wife is soooooo hot!
my dessert recipe would be her with whip cream and macerated berry juice. it would go perfect with any rose
May 10, 2009

Tom
Great episode. I haven’t missed a show since #300 and I think that this was the most natural (conversational) interview yet. Good job! Didn’t hurt that she was easy on the eyes.
May 10, 2009

Bruce Schaller
Not a bad epsiode, like having an open mind. Will look for Goat and Donkey. It must be tough to market a wine, sometimes names really sound generic, and it’s a little daunting for someone who is anxious to learn. KLJ’s cute, and is probably quite good in her kitchen, but I wish she’d watched a little more wine lib before being on the show. I think then she’d have gotten a better vibe here in the comments.

I will check out the whitewater sometime, sounds like a great thing to do this summer.
May 10, 2009

Bal H.
Maybe a pound cake (lemon?) with fresh berries and whipped cream

Try the 2008 Crios de Susanna Balbo Malbec Rosé – it is excellent!
May 10, 2009

Tim Y
Did anyone else say “That’s what she said” when Katie was talking about Oysters?

QOTD: Strawberry Shortcake
May 10, 2009

Jon E
When oh when will we drink the tempier, its like right of passage! it needs to happen pronto

QOTD: Rose and blackberry gelee with vanilla creme fraiche
May 10, 2009

Lynda S
i tried not to say that’s is what she said.

QOTD: i would definitely go with something creamy like my favorite, raspberry creme brulee. i found a great rose from michigan. it is styled after a Beaujolais nouveau. With that particular one, maybe a plum crumble.
May 10, 2009

Brittany
haha funny!! I also had to restrain myself from saying “that’s what she said” at certain moments

QOTD: Rose poached pears…
berry compote made with rose…
rose, berry sorbetto
May 10, 2009

PeterTappinKane
Great episode, Gary! Katie is a fantastic personality, and doing a rose episode leading up to Memorial Day with her was perfect.

ALSO!

Thought it was AWESOME when the one and only Billy Joel rolls on in whistling his way down the stairs. That’s what separates WLTV from all the others!
May 10, 2009

Phil M
Nicely done.. I am a hater of the pink juice, but I’ll give the goat and monkey a try someday!! I enjoy these interview episodes as much as the impromptu ones in hotels, really nicely done.. I cannot believe that no one has scooped you up yet for a show much like Rachel Ray or Jimmy Fallon.. I for one would tune in!!!

And ok, I also thought “thats what she said”, but only because I love The Office so much!!
May 10, 2009

LisaPeacea
In my opinion, she seems real and so I liked this show, and its rather refreshing for a change in life. No phoneyness, no pretending she knew everything about wine. A nice guest. Katie dont even listen to the cranky ones here. You were great!
May 10, 2009

LisaPeacea
The cranky ones are probably your old boyfriends crying in their beer over losing you!
May 10, 2009

KAHUNA
Had some polenta fried in duck fat tonight and I was think a Rose’ would have went great with that- however had a Prosecco opened already.
May 10, 2009

Robin C
I like I can’t believe it’s not butter, but I smell merthiolate or mercurechrome in rose and it really puts me off. Plus the fact that I got sick a couple times with rose.
QOTD: I actually have a recipe for a rose wine pie, but I’ve never made it. I’ll bet it’s good. It looke smooth and white and the picture of the pie has a sliced strawberry on top.
If you keep trying water, at some point it may appeal to you. It has a lot of virtues. It’s hard to mess it up like people mess up iced tea all the time.
May 11, 2009

Rich Ritter in NY
How do you not get Billy Joel to make an appearance for 30 seconds or so??? Those birds drove me crazy the entire episode.

QOTD: Rose and rapsberry gelato covered in dark chocolate shavings.
May 11, 2009

M'Em
I nearly cried by the end of this episode. I love what you bring to the wine world, helping us and guiding us. It’s your super power Gary, when the bad guy attacks, you jump in and taste some wine and give the bad guy some wine to taste. They become so overjoyed with the pleasure of expanding their universe that they mutate into a good guy.
May 11, 2009

ditch
Gary, Gary, Gary, everytime I see you recently youre hanging out with some hot ladies….be it Katie Lee Joel or the women from TMI weekly. Furthermore I love the start of the TMI broadcast when the main presenter says, “we need two episodes of Gary, because he is just sooo big.”….

Are you sure youre not trying to teach us Vayniacs the art of seduction more so than the art of wine?

QOTD: Im thinking Lemon Merigue Pie…..not sure why though
May 11, 2009

dcrob
QOTD: fresh mixed berries with homemade whipping cream.
May 11, 2009

Daniel
Use the same wine to make ice cube, This is a better way to refresh you wine.

Daniel From Montreal
May 11, 2009

jigger
Fantastic guest. The precociousness was palatable (palate plus table = palatable). I’m just sorry I don’t bake, such that I would have an answer for the QOTD. Peace.
May 11, 2009

Murso
Katie -an ice cube in your wine is PERFECTLY FINE.

GV- FYI, if an everyday bottle is not quite up to par (opened bottles, red white, or pink are kept in the fridge, but must be finished in a few days if possible.), it can be helped to firm up the tannins,and attenuate failing fruit by serving chilled, or adding an ice cube. It’s OK to do it, to salvage a situation.

Her Portuguese rose looks to me like Alianca’s Casal Mendes. Very inexpensive and good, but not worth saving/aging. Drink youngest available. Their Vinho Verde has awesome bright fruit (even melon) and big spritziness.

QotD – Sorry, no soda, no dessert. American per capita sugar consumption is WAAAY out of control. Grotesque. Fresh fruits/salad is natural and ok. And don’t buy and products in a bottle, jar, or box that use words like ‘natural’ either.
May 11, 2009

LindsayC
Great show, Gary — Katie’s so cute! I mean, I still think it’s a *little* weird that she’s my age and married to someone my dad’s age (don’t care WHO he is), but I gotta say –- to each her own, and she’s winning me over anyway. She’s open to learning, not afraid to say “I put ice cubes in my rosé!” I would totally be friends with her.

QOTD: Dessert with rosé would have to include fruit. I think something super simple and refreshing might be perfect, like fruit skewers (maybe grilled?) with sugared crème fraiche.
May 11, 2009

pawncop
A very nice episode, good guest and your interview skills are continuing to improve.

QOTD – I would try mango or other tropical fruits.
May 11, 2009

Jay Campbell
This show had all the makings of a great one for me. I love rose and I’ve liked Katie since she was on Top Chef. It just didn’t quite work for me. It bothered me that she came across so poorly while talking about food. Whatever. No worries.
May 11, 2009

Neil
QOTD: Vanilla Ice Cream with fresh berries
May 11, 2009

Pete B
Great episode. If you got Billy to come over and taste with you, it would have jumped up to second best overall behind Gretzky. I have not found a Rose’ that I like but I’ll look for the donkey and goat next time I’m shopping.

QOTD – Strawberry Shortcake. When it’s fresh, its my favorite dessert.
May 11, 2009

Dominus
Hmmm, this one made me feel a little uncomfortable as though I was taking part in a focus group. Who is off to your left? The guest “liked” rose but did not know much about wine or food for that matter but I guess when you’re the wife of a super rock star, alot of things come your way.

Secondly, the wines, again, were “Not Available” and wondering if we will learn about wine or be an audience (focus group) to buy the guests’ books, visit their websites or even be twittered? It’s beginning to feel like bring a groupie following Gary on his road tour.

Give me the laid back couch, mano y mano kind of show. Plus, how did you end up at his townhouse in the first place? Did I miss that tidbit of information? I read she got him to move from the Hamptons to Greenwich so I wonder what is next in store for the Piano Man, West Virginia?

QOTD: Dessert with a dry rosé? It’s almost an culinary oxymoron but I guess you could try a rosé with a plum and fig cake. http://www.tastespotting.com/detail/23824/Plum-and-fig-cake

Cheers!

P.S. I’ll be sure to try the Donkey & Goat if I run across it.
May 11, 2009

John Farrin
I’m not sure whether I wish trophy wives would just be content to be trophy wives or simply jealous that I can’t score a cutie like Katie. Probably just jealous but watching an episode or two doesn’t qualify as “watching” your show. I won’t be rushing out to buy her cookbooks because she needs to pay her dues and gain expertise in her field to be taken seriously. I don’t think that we hard core Vayniacs have any right to put demands on episode content. The last time I looked we weren’t paying ANYTHING for the episodes. Please yourself and keep putting out your appreciated work.
May 11, 2009

Dino
Sweet show. Nice food for thought write up in Fine Cooking. Good things happen to good peeps – like you! Thanks. d
May 11, 2009

mattyb_58
QOTD: my wife’s (through grandma) rhubarb torte. straight up phenomenal.

Just cracked the first rose last night. ‘08 A to Z. summer’s gonna be good!
May 11, 2009

Cuse Wino
QOTD- never had a Rose so not sure what I would cook for dessert

Nice episode and some great double entendre moments and the cameo by Mr Joel was nice as well. Will look into her book
May 11, 2009

Stuart
QOTD – Chocolate Moose

Great show!

Katie Lee is the most attractive guest I’ve seen on the Thunder Show! Way to go Gary.
May 11, 2009

ScottEJ
Nice vibe to this ep. Very laid back. The rose’ is on the radar and wine no. 3 is topping my list.

QOTD: Anything rhubard or cheesecake. Or rhubarb cheesecake.
May 11, 2009

Kevin
I am a lover, an advocate, of the pink juice. I try to expose others to it, who often hate on it, and it’s a shame. I am in the strawberry/watermelon camp as opposed to the raspberry/cherry camp with the pink.

QOTD: never tried cooking with it – esp. dessert!?
May 11, 2009

Vinofan
Great episode Gary, I can’t believe the Piano Man made a slight appearance on the Thunder show, considering he’s one of my favorite guys ever. Rose’ IS totally underrated and there’s a lot out there that are complex and enjoyable.
QOTD: Strawberry Panna Cotta
May 11, 2009

drew benz
Thought the guest was nice and genuine, which is what I appreciate in a guest.

QOTD – If the question is what dessert recipe would I pair with rose, well, honestly I’m not sure I would, but only because I rarely eat dessert and rose is more of a early-in-the-meal type pour for me. If the question is what dessert would I make that has rose in it, honestly I’m not sure I would do that either. ;]

Raiders 16 – Jets 13
May 12, 2009

Don
I enoyed the Rose episode. That was so cool that Billy Joel just walked down the stairs during the middle of the show!!! I must admit, I definitely have not given Rose its due and have been pretty much neglecting it completely. I will have to give it a whirl, especially if I can get my hands on the donkey & goat.

QOTD: I don’t make desserts, but you tell me so I can try it out sometime!
May 12, 2009

jwink
GV a couple of great ways to flavor and enjoy water: 1) Add a splash of cranberry juice to give unexpected crispness. 2) Add some cucumber slices to give some mouth watering bite…it’s very good.

What’s up with the quiz of the day? As for the QOTD: Use the rose to make a “brine” for soaking some raspberries, strawberries, and watermellon; let that sit for a few hours. Then take the remaning liquid reduce that down with some sugar to make a “simple syrup” and drizzle over the “spiked” fruit sitting on some angelfood cake to soak up the liquid.
May 12, 2009

Logan
Great episode! Katie’s adorable. You were pretty ballsy to call Billy Joel “sensitive” and “girly,” Gar! Actually I saw an interview with Billy Joel on Japanese television and, to tell the truth, he came off as haughty, petty and insecure- perhaps that’s what years of fame can do to a person. I’m sure deep down he must be a good guy to have landed such a cute wife.

QOTD: Cheesecake!!
May 12, 2009

YoungDave
QOTD: Dry rose is definitely not my first though to pair with dessert. I prefer to pair with a beets salad (especially Anjou rose) or maybe with boquerones, maybe heirloom tomato dishes, gaspacho, etc. BUT if I had to pair with a dessert, maybe profiteroles with mixed berry coulis instead of chocolate, or with a berry compote dish, maybe a less sweet sorbet flavor with a herb twist (raspberry-thyme, strawberry-basil).
To all the rose haters- there are some AMAZING roses, from heavy- extracted- alcoholic and sweet, to light- crisp-and refreshing, and all have their place with or without food. TRY MANY DIFFERENT STYLES BEFORE PASSING DEFINITIVE JUDGEMENT ON ALL ROSE!
May 12, 2009

NZ Dennis
Love Rose – Love the guest!

QOTD – Rosewater Ice Cream with toffee/caramel sticks!
May 12, 2009

Ken T
Gary,

Never associate the Great Pabst Blue Ribbon Beer with Meister Brau or Black Label.
May 12, 2009

MaRc
QOTD: Dry roses probably will not pair so well with desserts, but sweeter roses with lighter style desserts, more like berry style trifles, jellies kinda thing rather than pies
May 12, 2009

brainpain
GV: How did you not crack up when the guest says that she likes the little ones and that the “big ones are just too much in my mouth”… I know I laughed on that one!
QOTD: Who knows…thats a tough one. I gotta think it has to be something fruit based.
May 12, 2009

victor
Wow. What a sweetie! I’ll have to check out her book(s).
qotd: Chocolate Amaretti Peaches
Link it up!
http://www.chefs-help.co.uk/chocrecipe.php?nrecipe=2&type=Dessert
May 12, 2009

Holladown
>>>>>>>>>GV: How did you not crack up when the guest says that she likes the little ones and that the “big ones are just too much in my mouth”… I know I laughed on that one!<<<<<<<<<<

I lost it right then, Too Much.
May 12, 2009

Abbe Faria
Nice guest, very sweet. QOTD: Rote Grütze with Mascarpone.
May 12, 2009

AMM3RD
This was a fun episode. I need to drink more Rose. Rose with Dessert? Fruit Tart…AMM
May 12, 2009

BurroBoy
Thanks for the Rosé episode that pink fans have been waiting for…genuinely lovely and honest guest. We are having a Rosé party at our house beginning of next month hoping to dispel some notions.
I had heard about that Donkey and Goat but not had any luck locating it yet in our neck of the woods.

QOTD: the dessert would really have to depend on the specific wine…we have a Concord Rosé that we made last fall, that although completely dry, has been a surprising dessert replacement.
May 12, 2009

Heather W
Katie is so cute, she seems like someone I would want to be friends with, in reality that is probably not likely, but you know, I like her personality.

QOTD: Warm and gooey peach and blackberry cobbler, with some vanilla ice cream. Yumness. Don’t know how well that would really work, but I’ve been craving cobbler since I saw the Neely’s doing a recipe on Good Morning America this morning.
May 12, 2009

Sweet Lew
Gary,

You should have asked the Piano man to sing ” Bottle of white, bottle of red perhaps a bottle of rose insted!
May 13, 2009

Alex from Montreal
QOTD: Easy, I would make a raspberry, strawberry, blackberry, blueberry, Sabayonne. Instead of using white wine to whisk the egg yokes and the sugar together, I would use rose and then pair it with the Donkey&Goat if I had the chance.
May 13, 2009

vinoBlue
I knew it! she was the host of Top Chef Season 1. I guess she didn’t take the hint to gain more credibility on her subject matter.
May 13, 2009

Meg
I love rose and am glad you covered *domestic* roses, as I still think they are trying to find their place in the rose world — most still do not hold a candle to French roses but hey — they will get there.

Re: the guest, I didn’t know who she was until I read the comments. Honestly, I felt like she didn’t bring any value to the shoe — just my opinion. I don’t think she knew anything about wine. Yes, it’s neat that she’s Billy Joel’s wife, but should that really matter? Anyway, still liked the show. Sorry for hatin’.
May 13, 2009

Steak Monster
Never had the pink stuff, but I’m still working my way around the wine world. And a college kid doesn’t get around to doing much cooking with wine so I gotta pass on the QoTD.
May 13, 2009

Sean
QOTD: Caramelized apples over vanilla bean ice cream. THAT is the THUNDER!!!!
May 13, 2009

Beth
I have friends that freeze grapes for their wine then eat the grapes after you done. Doesn’t water down the wine and helps keep it cold.
May 13, 2009

Rob C
long time Vayniac here…weak guest with weak perspective….Peter Mondavi was AWESOME!!! Need more guests like that or the old school fridays on the couch.
May 13, 2009

BlueFrank
QotD: Fresh hot out of the oven – madelines, which I made for Momma’s day recently. Rose is definately the Mother’s Day Wine in my opinion.
Good show with a little sweet tension…
May 14, 2009

Wendy
Just looked at the link for the donkey and goat rose. Which Lot # was tasted (Lot 1 or Lot 2)?

QOTD: Probably a raspberry trifle made with chunks of poundcake (or even some brownies).
May 14, 2009

NYCrooner
She’s adorable but seemed lost. haha. Nice to see Billy make an unintentional cameo. Anyway, love rose wine and no better time to drink them then now, spring in the city.
May 14, 2009

Dan Manu
Awesome episode Gary! I know I’m a few days behind but i loved it.
Love Rose and love chef guests. Today’s guest was no different! I’m gonna buy her book based on her performance today Already pre-ordered yours Gary!

QOTD: has to be just some sorbet with fresh fruit chopped up on top.. or even better berries, or Cherry jam! mmm…. If it wasn’t a dessert I’d go sushi or sashimi… think raw fish/tuna goes really well with rose!
May 15, 2009

lawschooldrunk
“…Perhaps a bottle of Rose instead…”
May 16, 2009

Sarah
This was my favourite wltv episode so far. I really liked the guest and how you guys talked about random things other than wine. And how she suddenly ran out and came back Entertaining.
May 18, 2009

Andy & Edie from MT
Katie Lee was such a great guest and you two worked so well together. Very informative and fun episode that gets us excited for summer roses. Thanks!
May 22, 2009

ViaChgo
A little late to the game here…just watched this episode last night. LOVE rose! Good call on the topic and Katie was great too! But I can’t find Donkey and Goat in Chicago!! BUMMER!
May 23, 2009

shkaveh57
Very Nice Memories
Be continue
sh_kaveh57@yahoo.com
May 23, 2009

Dan-o
I enjoyed the show and the guest. She seemed quite cute also! I really have not had many roses, but i need to get the into my summer repertoire.

QOTD – I would want a “crusty” dessert and in this case perhaps an apple crisp.
May 25, 2009

Cindy Flowers
Stumbled upon your show and it was my first time. Loved it so much I had to try the ” Donkey and Goat”. Always been a cab and zin person but you made me thirst for the rose. Dammit I live in LA and the only place that had it was in NYC. Oh well…. I ordered 3 bottles. Should have ordered more. I loved it. My jones was satisfied. Now I have to order more. Tried “Coppola’s Sofia Rose”2008. Liked that too. Good thing I am on haiatus. Tried to join Cork’d but was unable to sign in. Keep up the good work!
June 3, 2009

JayZee
Great show and Katie was probably the cutest guest you’ve ever had on your show. Her books sound interesting so I’ll have to get one for my wife who is an awesome cook.

QOTD: I think I would make a strawberry rhubarb tart with a nice dry rosé.
June 17, 2009

Dean
Sorry for the gossip column here, but I cannot beleive this news report. According to this (CNN) Billy Joel and his wife Katie Lee Joel are separating! Who can know what is the real story, but it is certainly unthinkable as Katie Lee seems so sweet an likeable here. The article below states that “the singer is doing fine”. That is good to hear, but—what about Katie?

http://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/Music/06/17/billy.joel.separation/index.html
June 23, 2009

M
I heard them talking about the separation on the Howard Stern Show.